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[Samsung i780] GPS cannot fix on any satelites

Hi,
I am new here and just bought an i780 in S'pore 4 weeks ago, running on i780DXHD1 (Radio + PDA). I have been trying to use the GPS for weeks using the bundled NavFone but it always could not fix on any satelites. In the signal strength, there is no single bar appear. I tried MapKing, it is the same. When i checked on MapKing GPS data stream, it is always empty. when i checked on the dailpad, the GPS logo is active(not crossed). When i turn off the GPS application, the GPS logo is inactive (crossed). With this, can i assume the GPS hardware is working? But why no data stream? I have tried turning on XTRA, but it is the same. Below is my configuration:
[NavFone]
Software Port GDP1:
Hardware port COM9:
baud 4800
Windows managed: yes/checked
[MapKing(trial)]
Software Port COM8:
Hardware port COM9:
baud 4800
windows managed: yes/checked
Please help.... Thanks!

co6ra said:
Hi,
I am new here and just bought an i780 in S'pore 4 weeks ago, running on i780DXHD1 (Radio + PDA). I have been trying to use the GPS for weeks using the bundled NavFone but it always could not fix on any satelites. In the signal strength, there is no single bar appear. I tried MapKing, it is the same. When i checked on MapKing GPS data stream, it is always empty. when i checked on the dailpad, the GPS logo is active(not crossed). When i turn off the GPS application, the GPS logo is inactive (crossed). With this, can i assume the GPS hardware is working? But why no data stream? I have tried turning on XTRA, but it is the same. Below is my configuration:
[NavFone]
Software Port GDP1:
Hardware port COM9:
baud 4800
Windows managed: yes/checked
[MapKing(trial)]
Software Port COM8:
Hardware port COM9:
baud 4800
windows managed: yes/checked
Please help.... Thanks!
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co6ra,
First off, you need to stand in an open space before you activate your GPS. I uses Agis software too, and based on my experience when you use it the first time, the signal tends to get a little longer than usual. At times, it can even be over 10 minutes before I get a signal.
To assist your time to get the signal, I would advise you to use the Enhanced GPS found in your settings>system. Clicked on the enhanced gps and select Enable in the XTRA Enable. There is no need to select Auto Download (that is, Disable).
This would mean that the device will also use the base stations to assist in finding the location of your device. Of course the downside to it is you will incur GPRS charges.
Try it and see if you can get the signal.

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g00ndu said:
co6ra,
First off, you need to stand in an open space before you activate your GPS. I uses Agis software too, and based on my experience when you use it the first time, the signal tends to get a little longer than usual. At times, it can even be over 10 minutes before I get a signal.
To assist your time to get the signal, I would advise you to use the Enhanced GPS found in your settings>system. Clicked on the enhanced gps and select Enable in the XTRA Enable. There is no need to select Auto Download (that is, Disable).
This would mean that the device will also use the base stations to assist in finding the location of your device. Of course the downside to it is you will incur GPRS charges.
Try it and see if you can get the signal.
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Hi,
Thanks for your reply. For the past 4 weeks, i have been trying all sort of methods; standing at my aprtment balcony, in an open field, in a bus, windows seat, etc. all with at least 30 minutes. When i was at home, i stood at the balcony, turn on my wifi, and kept downloading the XTRA. Sometimes, i cannot see any bar at all; sometimes, i saw a lot of bars, with different PRN number, but all empty (strength 0), and kept changing, but still no fix...
help....~~

i have the same problem too until I download a software call GPSgate, there after I am uable to use my gps, I do not have the link , try seaching on the web.

vincal said:
i have the same problem too until I download a software call GPSgate, there after I am uable to use my gps, I do not have the link , try seaching on the web.
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I thought GPSGate is some kind of port sharing program? Both NavFone and MapKing is able to connect to the GPS unit, it just could not fix. Is it possible that the GPS is locked?
Anyhow, will try on GPSGate later. What is the recommended configuration?....
Thanks!

Installed GPSGate, and found that now MapKing is able to connect to the port and receive data. When i check on the GPS stream, it always appear to have the first line with data(some figures deliminated with ","), but follows by a few line with empty data (no figure, but a lot of ","). When i checked GPSGate, the status of the input port is always "GPS data but no position". I have tried just now in an open space, clear night sky, for at 40 mins, it still cannot fix on any satelite....
Help!...is this something to do with hardware?

Hello,
I've got the same pb. No gps fix and no satellite. I've tried with gpsproxy, portsplitter. No way : no signal...
My phone version :
PDA : i780dxhe1
PHONE : i780puhe1
Rom : EFN WM6.1 - 3.3XG

alex16s said:
Hello,
I've got the same pb. No gps fix and no satellite. I've tried with gpsproxy, portsplitter. No way : no signal...
My phone version :
PDA : i780dxhe1
PHONE : i780puhe1
Rom : EFN WM6.1 - 3.3XG
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I just tried gpsproxy, it still does not solve my issues.
Where did you buy your unit? I am thinking of sending back to samsung. If i am sending back, this will be the first and last samsung unit that i am using...

co6ra said:
I just tried gpsproxy, it still does not solve my issues.
Where did you buy your unit? I am thinking of sending back to samsung. If i am sending back, this will be the first and last samsung unit that i am using...
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Since you have not flashed to any custom rom (I hope you did not) why not send your device back to the SSC and lodge a complain that the GPS is not working at all.
If they say nothing is wrong, ask them to demonstrate that the GPS is able to lock in the signals.
I know it is frustrating to have features and yet not working. It can be a case of hardware issue. Let's see how the SSC can help you, since yours is still under warranty.
I wish you would be able to solve your GPS issue. i780 is still a great phone. Let us know how it goes, okay?

ya...i am travelling now and expect the GPS to work....should have not trust it will work out from box. will visit the SSC when i am back to S'pore 3 weeks later....

co6ra said:
ya...i am travelling now and expect the GPS to work....should have not trust it will work out from box. will visit the SSC when i am back to S'pore 3 weeks later....
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In the meantime, just keep on trying, if you have time to spare. Who knows? You might have it resolved by then.
All the best... And good luck...

hi,
I just enable the log in NavFone and here is how it looks:
$GPGSV,2,1,05,07,20,040,,26,68,205,,04,00,111,,14,37,310,*75
$GPGSV,2,2,05,25,23,045,*4B
$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66
$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,*32
$GPVTG,,T,,M,,N,,K*4E
$GPGSV,2,1,05,07,20,040,,26,68,205,,04,00,111,,14,37,310,*75
$GPGSV,2,2,05,25,23,045,*4B
$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66
$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,*32
$GPVTG,,T,,M,,N,,K*4E
$GPGSV,2,1,05,07,20,040,,26,68,205,,04,00,111,,14,37,310,*75
$GPGSV,2,2,05,25,23,045,*4B
$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66
$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,*32
$GPVTG,,T,,M,,N,,K*4E
$GPGSV,2,1,08,07,20,040,,26,68,205,,04,00,111,,14,37,310,*78
$GPGSV,2,2,08,25,23,045,,22,28,187,,12,37,299,,13,49,299,*7A
$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66
$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,*32
$GPVTG,,T,,M,,N,,K*4E
According to http://gpsinformation.org/dale/nmea.htm, GGA is one of the most important stream to provide location data. From the log, it seems like the GPS is not able to calculate the current location at all? What is wrong with the GPS unit???...
Ya...i have been trying to put the GPS on everytime i am outside, in total, i think i have tested no less than 10 hours, but still no luck....

co6ra,
From the looks of your log file, it seems that your GPS chipset might not be working. Those coordinates that you have should come from the base station of the phone.
I tried it indoor, and it seems that there are satellites showing, but just could not get a fix on it too (But then, I was indoor).
Your log file might be useful, especially when you bring your unit back to SSC for service.
P/S: My settings are as follows:
Enhanced GPS XTRA is enabled but Auto Download is disabled.
When running NavFone, my settings are as follows:
Don't worry about the external GPS settings, just leave it as it is.
I will feedback later when I am on the balcony. Please be patient.
Update:
Log of my GPS Data:
$GPGSA,A,3,13,17,20,23,,,,,,,,,,7.5,4.6,5.9*15
$GPVTG,,T,,M,0.0,N,0.0,K*4E
$GPGSV,3,1,12,07,66,357,,08,28,336,14,11,68,046,18,13,42,213,20*7C
$GPGSV,3,2,12,17,24,257,27,19,07,028,,20,24,143,30,23,27,175,25*7A
$GPGSV,3,3,12,25,81,061,,27,55,338,15,28,04,315,17,32,13,119,18*76
$GPGGA,095555.0,0119.614273,N,10352.209341,E,1,04,4.5,38.5,M,,,,*39
$GPRMC,095555.0,A,0119.614273,N,10352.209341,E,,,150808,,,A*67
$GPGSA,A,3,13,17,20,23,,,,,,,,,,7.5,4.5,5.9*16
$GPVTG,,T,,M,0.0,N,0.0,K*4E
$GPGSV,3,1,12,07,66,357,,08,28,336,14,11,68,046,18,13,42,213,22*7E
$GPGSV,3,2,12,17,24,257,28,19,07,028,,20,24,143,30,23,27,175,25*75
$GPGSV,3,3,12,25,81,061,,27,55,338,15,28,04,315,17,32,13,119,18*76
$GPGGA,095556.0,0119.616592,N,10352.210679,E,1,04,4.5,44.5,M,,,,*3D
$GPRMC,095556.0,A,0119.616592,N,10352.210679,E,,,150808,,,A*68
Yes, what you said is true, the GGA data is the coordinates of your device and determine your location.

I have sent the same log to Agis and Samsung via emails. Waiting for their reply. Hopefully they can solve this by next week, so that i can use it when i need it most as i am travelling to Malaysia now.
BTW, do you guys think that this might be a locked GPS? Anybody has any ideas? If so, how to unlock?

Locked? what do you mean? It shouldn't be and it should work right out of the box.

i am not sure also...read few article on locked GPS topic, which they key in a code to unlock/activate the gps unit.

No luck. Samsung Singapore support does not even want to reply to my email....
Just happen that one of my colleagues travelled to my local office. Has switched back to my old BenQ P50 and let my colleague to bring down the unit back to Samsung S'pore. They claim that it might be a software issue and saying that they are going to flash the latest ROM to see if it helps.

g00ndu said:
Locked? what do you mean? It shouldn't be and it should work right out of the box.
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Hi,
I notice that u r using the cooked ROM. Did you backup the original ROM before flashing the cooked ROM? If so, how do you backup?

alex16s said:
Hello,
I've got the same pb. No gps fix and no satellite. I've tried with gpsproxy, portsplitter. No way : no signal...
My phone version :
PDA : i780dxhe1
PHONE : i780puhe1
Rom : EFN WM6.1 - 3.3XG
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I went through this same thing, I now have Tomtom7 running perfectly and getting a fix in seconds.
It is highly important that you have a working Sim card, correct GPRS or EDGE settings and that XTRA is Enabled!
Use GPS Gate stock settings! ie. prior to running GPS Gate goto External GPS and select com2, then run GPS Gate and use the wizard and let it find Com2.
GPRS/EDGE should try to connect automatically if not then switch it on, exit and restart GPS Gate. Be patient on the first fix it can take 5 mins, it should not take this long though.
Wait until GPS Gate shows that dark green icon in app tray and has a valid position, once it does then execute your GPS software and use (Franson Virtual com 1) default comport generated by GPS Gate.
GPRS/EDGE can be turned off after GPS Gate shows that it has your position and this need only be done once. This has worked on Omnia after many many hours of failure and frustration.

How to set up the GPS

Hi I've got a BlackStone but I can't make the GPS go right!
Which COM should I choose, Which rate? 4800? and in which place: Software or Hardware?
Finally what's the config for googleMaps?
Thank so much...

DassaultMirage said:
Hi I've got a BlackStone but I can't make the GPS go right!
Which COM should I choose, Which rate? 4800? and in which place: Software or Hardware?
Finally what's the config for googleMaps?
Thank so much...
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try com 4, rate 9600.

Forgive me if I understood your problem wrongly. While the HD has built-in GPS it is not supplied with any software or app associated with it for navigating or even for displaying coordinates or compass navigation.
Once you download the Google Maps (which also supports, for some countries the street map display) application onto your device, it will make use of the GPS and show you your position, with moving map display as you drive, quite smoothly and accurately. It will also show your approximate position indoors without GPS (using A-GPS and the cell site ID supporting LBS).
For point to point navigation and voice prompts guess one has to use 3rd party app like Garmin XT, TomTom; but I have not used these.

genesicgaogaiga said:
try com 4, rate 9600.
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yes but in the software or in the hardware field?

You need to state what software you are using. If its Google maps just let Windows manage the GPS.

Why doesn't the GPS Photo work. It says that GPS is not active or something. What's up with that?

genesicgaogaiga said:
try com 4, rate 9600.
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Thank you, but it doesn't work so!!! What's wrong???

I had the same problem, no one can't help me. Any gps software I used couldn`t find gps reciver, I've tried any combinations with COM ports....nothing. After 1 month and about 10 gps software I removed SIM card....and BINGO!!!! My old SIM card generate problem that nothing can find built-in gps reciver in my Touch HD. Try without SIM card and if it works go to operator and replace to new SIM card
Endow

Not at all
Sorry about this, but your tips does'nt help me:
I removed the SIMcard but the GPS in GOOGLEMAP didn't work anyway!
I tried to let it be managed by windows and to set it on COM4 with 9600bauds but no options succeded!
I can't understand what's wrong!!!

Another thing
Furthermore, when I set up the GPS-params in the params-application of windows mobile 6, the hard port (COM4) I chose isn't recorded by the software!!!
Maybe it's a hint for the answer?
Help me, geeks of HTC!

go to google and download the lastest ver. google map.
try to go to a window or a open space and turn on the google map. press option and try to click use gps , and see any reading on the top right of the map screen.
dont need to adjust any com 4,5,6 things.
once you got a lock on gps. you can close the google map and start to look out for third party nav software. try it.

Mine works perfectly fast at
COM: 4
BAUD: 57600
Im using iGuidance 2009

does ur phone need to go online when activating the gps? my car's gps doesnt need online yet the device can detect its location. however when i use google map, the phone just went online and try to search for my location. not too ideal as i have to pay for every kb sent/recieved.

Ooo
Maybe I will try to refresh the GPRSSettings with the soft designed for it!
I will reply when I'll know further about it...

Mine shows correct location when I set port - Com4 and BAUD: 57600 on Google maps for just a second. Then it jumps to some other continent and says GPS not available and shows the help dialog. Allowing windows to manage gps also gives same results what am i doing wrong?? or is it a limitation of blackstone/google maps app..

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I've tryed what you done but it didn't succeded!
In the GMaps List I see: "COM4:" and there is nothing after the ":" !
When I confirm this update, the soft tell me that he can't found a device on this COM!!!

ok, my settings, com4, bd 4800, let windows manage (which kinda negates any settings before hand) Google maps set to let windows manage. My GPS locks well and always finds plenty of satalites, so i dont understand why you guys are having problems.
Howver, on my polaris with cooked rom, my google maps does misbeahve sometimes when the gps is locked and the map will suddenly say im in hong kong when im in the uk!! (i even unistalled google that was included in rom and downloaded new version from google)
So i believe in my limited wisdom that its probably a rom issue (radio more likely).
What i do have to decide is if the official 1.56 rom is worth flashing or not (still on 1.14)
What you guys think?

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I'm not sure to understand you because I come from Switzerland and I main speek French.
YOu think that it is a ROM version's problem? Which one should I install? (and how to do it ?)
Thanks so much!
P.S.: I don't have changed any ROM or Radio Version in this HTC Touch HD!

I have never fiddled with ROM but I have same issue. google maps jumps continent!! momentarily despite 7 satellites. May be an issue with Google maps itself??
timmymarsh said:
Howver, on my polaris with cooked rom, my google maps does misbeahve sometimes when the gps is locked and the map will suddenly say im in hong kong when im in the uk!! (i even unistalled google that was included in rom and downloaded new version from google)
So i believe in my limited wisdom that its probably a rom issue (radio more likely).
What i do have to decide is if the official 1.56 rom is worth flashing or not (still on 1.14)
What you guys think?
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timmymarsh said:
ok, my settings, com4, bd 4800, let windows manage (which kinda negates any settings before hand) Google maps set to let windows manage. My GPS locks well and always finds plenty of satalites, so i dont understand why you guys are having problems.
Howver, on my polaris with cooked rom, my google maps does misbeahve sometimes when the gps is locked and the map will suddenly say im in hong kong when im in the uk!! (i even unistalled google that was included in rom and downloaded new version from google)
So i believe in my limited wisdom that its probably a rom issue (radio more likely).
What i do have to decide is if the official 1.56 rom is worth flashing or not (still on 1.14)
What you guys think?
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I have the same problem. I have already donwloaded the 1.56 rom and the uspl but cant seem to decide to flash or not.

HTC pro2 GPS , help!

Hi guys
I got my first WM phone HTC pro2 recently from Vodafone UK. Everything is good except GPS. I read this forum carefully. I did hard reset, soft reset, set different port and baud, download QuickGPS, I also try some tweaks, buy GPS still not working. when I open Google Maps, clicked the use GPS, after “seeking satellite…” near ten minutes and Google Maps told me I have GPS problem. HTC GPS tool show me GPS signal was 0 and only a red spot on the top of circle. Other GPS programs such as “GPS test” and BeeLineGPS had same result like HTC GPS tool. Open Garmin, always said “searching satellite …” and Tomtom told me “Poor GPS receptions—are you inside the building?”
My questions are, based your guys experience what happened? It is hardware problem or the setting’s problem? When you guys talking about the GPS cannot get fix, do you have GPS signal on the GPS program (like signal strength, some red and green spots on the circle etc)? If I flash hard-SPL and other Radio Rom can resolve my problem? Are there other solutions? Warranty.

I used destinator 7 on a small trip, and was able to work.
However, looking at the settings screen where the signal for each satellite was displayed, I cannot say I am impressed. The signal strength was extremely low...
Can you install destinator and try also yourself?

Apologies if this is very basic, but I assume you are outside with a clear view of the sky when trying it out?
sparobin said:
Hi guys
I got my first WM phone HTC pro2 recently from Vodafone UK. Everything is good except GPS. I read this forum carefully. I did hard reset, soft reset, set different port and baud, download QuickGPS, I also try some tweaks, buy GPS still not working. when I open Google Maps, clicked the use GPS, after “seeking satellite…” near ten minutes and Google Maps told me I have GPS problem. HTC GPS tool show me GPS signal was 0 and only a red spot on the top of circle. Other GPS programs such as “GPS test” and BeeLineGPS had same result like HTC GPS tool. Open Garmin, always said “searching satellite …” and Tomtom told me “Poor GPS receptions—are you inside the building?”
My questions are, based your guys experience what happened? It is hardware problem or the setting’s problem? When you guys talking about the GPS cannot get fix, do you have GPS signal on the GPS program (like signal strength, some red and green spots on the circle etc)? If I flash hard-SPL and other Radio Rom can resolve my problem? Are there other solutions? Warranty.
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yes , i am in open field, far away from building, several times, more than 40 minutes. thanks I will try it. but I am wondering why signal strength is 0. low strength, hard to fix and no signal strength is totally diferent issue, i guess.

I am proposing the destinator, because it has a function that detects the port & some settings of the gps...

I am on Sprint in the US, but this worked for me. I am not sure if you did this.
If you have TouchFlo enabled go to the Settings Tab, then go to All Settings.
In the all settings, click the Personal then click Phone. In there click GSM/UMTS services (I am assuming you have a GSM phone, I don't know). Select Location Setting and then Get settings. Make sure it is turned on.
Then this part you said you did, but I will tell you my settings anyway. Go back to the all settings. Now go to system and then external gps. Then go to programs and select COM port 9. Under hardware it should be None and the baud rate is 4800. Then under access check the box to have manage gps enabled.
Now, when you use google maps, go to the settings in google maps and click gps settings. Change the option from let windows mobile manage my gps to manual and pick com 9 and 4800.
Then enable the gps and get a clear view of the sky and see if it works. It might take about 20 seconds for it to get some satellites the first time.

Did you notice there is a firmware update to enahnce gps fixes? Might be worth giving it a try

Thanks all.
there is not locaiton at setting, personal, phone , services.
this phone is vodafone branded, i think I need hard-SPL first to flash firmware.

sparobin said:
Thanks all.
there is not locaiton at setting, personal, phone , services.
this phone is vodafone branded, i think I need hard-SPL first to flash firmware.
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Hi,
I have been experiencing the same problem. Have read many posts. It normally happens when phone your phone displays H or 3G. For some reason the triangulation and the Gps stops working.
Try it when you have E or G showing on the phone it will work like a charm.
This is my second TP2 first one never had a problem and was vodafone branded as well. Will try and find a solution and will let you know. I have tried different radios though!

Hi
I had the same issue with my T mobile branded TP2. Sometimes (after houres) I had a fix and then it dropped again. I discovered that when you switch WIFI off, it all works like charm. WIFI somehow jams the GPS receiver.

Same Issue
I have the Sprint Touch Pro2 and have tried every patch available, several registry edits, different settings and quick GPS settings to get my GPS running properly. Just before my 30 day return/refund period had almost lapsed I decided to exchange my device. Sprint tried to talk me into some drawn out process of dealing with advanced tech support and starting a ticket on the issue which would have gone way beyond my 30 day period to exchange the phone. To make a short story long, exchanging the phone couldn't have been more convenient and upon setting up Quick GPS and trying out the installed Live Search application, my phone found 9 satelites within seconds. I guess it was the device. Just a cautionary tale that if you think you've tried everything to get your GPS working, there's no harm in getting another Touch Pro2.

Serious GPS Problems I NEED HELP (UPDATE 4-12-10)FIXED

Hey guys. I know there are dozens of threads here on XDA about GPS problems. Well, I have sifted through many for weeks now, I have tried and tried tweaks, hacks, whatever and I am having no luck. I used to have my GPS working with bing, google maps, whatever. I installed TomTom and never got it to locate a GPS signal, since then I have not been able to get any GPS working that I can recall.
I am not sure if I have replaced or deleted some file during all these registry hacks and tweaks, so I am at a loss. I just want to get my GPS working. I am no noob, so please no rude remarks. I just need some help. I cannot get this thing licked for the life of me. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. I am using an Energy Leo ROM with Sense 2.5 if that helps or matters to anyone.
Please, people, somebody help me get this GPS working again. THANKS SO MUCH IN ADVANCE.
EDIT: I fixed it, if ur curious check out post #7

outerdepth said:
Hey guys. I know there are dozens of threads here on XDA about GPS problems. Well, I have sifted through many for weeks now, I have tried and tried tweaks, hacks, whatever and I am having no luck. I used to have my GPS working with bing, google maps, whatever. I installed TomTom and never got it to locate a GPS signal, since then I have not been able to get any GPS working that I can recall.
I am not sure if I have replaced or deleted some file during all these registry hacks and tweaks, so I am at a loss. I just want to get my GPS working. I am no noob, so please no rude remarks. I just need some help. I cannot get this thing licked for the life of me. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. I am using an Energy Leo ROM with Sense 2.5 if that helps or matters to anyone.
Please, people, somebody help me get this GPS working again. THANKS SO MUCH IN ADVANCE.
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Since you're "no noob" I assume you've already hard-reset your phone...?? And/or tried the Task 29? And then re-flashed to a stock rom?
If you've done all of those things (surely you have if you've been troubleshooting for weeks) and GPS still doesn't work then it seems like you must have a hardware problem.

Yeah, thanks
MCbrian said:
Since you're "no noob" I assume you've already hard-reset your phone...?? And/or tried the Task 29? And then re-flashed to a stock rom?
If you've done all of those things (surely you have if you've been troubleshooting for weeks) and GPS still doesn't work then it seems like you must have a hardware problem.
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Alright, figured I would get some type of remark anyways, but it's cool. I have done a hard reset which I was trying to avoid, but I have not reflashed to a stock ROM and back again. Once again, I was trying to avoid all of that, but if there isn't any other options, it seems like that's what I am going to have to do. It's just since I flashed to the energy ROM, my GPS did work, it just stopped working suddenly. Thought there could be some connection(s) settings that got changed or possibly a file lost or changed.
I am willing to reflash the phone, by all means, but I thought I would check with my fellow hacking badasses to see if anyone could come up with an actual idea instead of telling me to change the phone BACK to it's original out of the box state, but if not whatever, guess I might have to bite the bullet.
If anyone else has any ideas, please let me know. I'm gonna hold tight on reflashing the phone for a few days to see if anyone has any other ideas.

what version of TomTom are you using?
i found with TT7 it will not show how many sats you have. and its a bit of a faf getting it to work, but i do have it working like this
in the gps settings of the phone set theprograme port to com 4and the hardware port to com5 and the baud to 4800
in TT and go to gps settings under preferences
change the GPS device to other GPS set the com to com 5 or 4 (try both)
go outside in a field etc, and wait 10 mins, you will see the latitude etc change, wal around and it will keep changing, but there will be no blue bars to tell you your signal strenght etc

outerdepth said:
Alright, figured I would get some type of remark anyways, but it's cool. I have done a hard reset which I was trying to avoid, but I have not reflashed to a stock ROM and back again. Once again, I was trying to avoid all of that, but if there isn't any other options, it seems like that's what I am going to have to do. It's just since I flashed to the energy ROM, my GPS did work, it just stopped working suddenly. Thought there could be some connection(s) settings that got changed or possibly a file lost or changed.
I am willing to reflash the phone, by all means, but I thought I would check with my fellow hacking badasses to see if anyone could come up with an actual idea instead of telling me to change the phone BACK to it's original out of the box state, but if not whatever, guess I might have to bite the bullet.
If anyone else has any ideas, please let me know. I'm gonna hold tight on reflashing the phone for a few days to see if anyone has any other ideas.
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It's easier to help you if you say what you've tried -- a little more detail than you're giving. Like, after you hard-reset did you reflash the Enrgy rom and try the GPS before adding Tom-Tom? If you did a hard reset, returning the phone to the basic Energy rom (without Tom-Tom) and GPS still doesn't work then Tom-Tom isn't the problem. But who knows... good luck.

monkeyturnip said:
what version of TomTom are you using?
i found with TT7 it will not show how many sats you have. and its a bit of a faf getting it to work, but i do have it working like this
in the gps settings of the phone set theprograme port to com 4and the hardware port to com5 and the baud to 4800
in TT and go to gps settings under preferences
change the GPS device to other GPS set the com to com 5 or 4 (try both)
go outside in a field etc, and wait 10 mins, you will see the latitude etc change, wal around and it will keep changing, but there will be no blue bars to tell you your signal strenght etc
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In my version of TomTom (ttn7.916.9189_qvga_blue) I find my satellites to be working no problem as per the display of locks on the navigation screen. No tinkering required.
As for the GPS issues, I would guess try another radio version. When you flash a stock ROM back on, it usually replaces the radio. In Southern California I find the .77 RADIO to be excellent with GPS.
Just update Quick GPS, try the .77 radio, stand out on the street for like 2 minutes so it can get a quick lock. With .77 GPS works in my house where it never did before.
I too had a helluva time getting this GPS working tits on the Touch Pro 2 when I first got it, now it's awesome!!

Thanks I will try
scariola said:
In my version of TomTom (ttn7.916.9189_qvga_blue) I find my satellites to be working no problem as per the display of locks on the navigation screen. No tinkering required.
As for the GPS issues, I would guess try another radio version. When you flash a stock ROM back on, it usually replaces the radio. In Southern California I find the .77 RADIO to be excellent with GPS.
Just update Quick GPS, try the .77 radio, stand out on the street for like 2 minutes so it can get a quick lock. With .77 GPS works in my house where it never did before.
I too had a helluva time getting this GPS working tits on the Touch Pro 2 when I first got it, now it's awesome!!
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I have reflashed my ROM more than once since all of this began in order to fix this problem with no avail, but I cannot say that the radio every changed since I was reflashing with an Energy ROM each time, so I will try what your saying about flashing the radio with some different ones. I am not sure what my stock radio was, so I will just have to experiment, but I will get back to you after I give this a try and let you know what happened if anything.

Got it Working Now
So I tried flashing a new radio. I also found another setting, though in the settings panel that I believe fixed this. It is as follows:
Settings\Connections\Advanced Network
When you're in this area, check the GPRS tab at the bottom. It has two options to set your GPRS to, one is PAP the other is CHAP. Mine was set to CHAP, so I changed it to PAP and VOILA!! Went outside,used Quick GPS, used the HTC GPS Tool, and it found satellites. Then I opened up google maps, bing, TomTom, and they all worked perfectly. So, if anyone else is having a similar problem, then give this a whirl. Make sure you check out different radios as well. I have now and my signal is strong inside and outside with my phone calls,internet, and GPS.
Thanks everyone for the help

outerdepth said:
So I tried flashing a new radio. I also found another setting, though in the settings panel that I believe fixed this. It is as follows:
Settings\Connections\Advanced Network
When you're in this area, check the GPRS tab at the bottom. It has two options to set your GPRS to, one is PAP the other is CHAP. Mine was set to CHAP, so I changed it to PAP and VOILA!! Went outside,used Quick GPS, used the HTC GPS Tool, and it found satellites. Then I opened up google maps, bing, TomTom, and they all worked perfectly. So, if anyone else is having a similar problem, then give this a whirl. Make sure you check out different radios as well. I have now and my signal is strong inside and outside with my phone calls,internet, and GPS.
Thanks everyone for the help
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Must be your local servers. I was using CHAP without GPS problems. The only difference is that CHAP uses secure authentication with the servers. I'm in LA.
BTW, are you using the "Quick GPS" application to download satellite positions? It really speeds up signal acquisition.

GPS Problem - all of a sudden it won't fix

Hi all,
I have some sort of problem with the GPS. Last Saturday it suddenly wouldn't get a fix at all. I tried taking the battery out and rebooting and still no joy. Then suddenly on Monday it started working again. I was on a flight on Wednesday and it worked on the flight too. About 2 hours later, I was on a train and again, no joy but put it down to maybe some strange coating on the glass. However, I tried again yesterday while out in my car and not a dickybird.
It sounds like a loose connection in the phone or something like this. Does anyone have any photos of where the GPS unit is or how to dis-assemble it to check the firmness of the connection ? Or is there any program that I can load on my TP2 to check what the GPS is actually doing ?
C

championc said:
Hi all,
It sounds like a loose connection in the phone or something like this. Does anyone have any photos of where the GPS unit is or how to dis-assemble it to check the firmness of the connection ? Or is there any program that I can load on my TP2 to check what the GPS is actually doing ?
C
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Having the same sort of issue with GPS on WM6.5... HTC are (well should be) working on but they have so far sent a gps test cab in the last month... which was useless... like you it will work great one minute then 'acquiring satellites' for ages... unless you have dropped and damaged radio would put the tools away for the moment as looks like software related (how WM6.5 manages GPS lock) that is the problem

I've never had a problem before and i've used it both at home and abroad. I'd use it a couple of times every week.
C

People have said upgrading the radio helped or used the GPS hotfix from HTC... Did this myself recently and must admit it seemed to fix the problem...
I'm running Energy ROM 23557 Sense 2.5 Maxmanilla.

ultramag69 said:
People have said upgrading the radio helped or used the GPS hotfix from HTC... .
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Thought the GPS hotfix on HTC site was for 6.1... so it works on 6.5 as well?...was going to flash the lastest europe 6.5 (with sense 2.5) it has a later radio but have read messaging is slow for some people, as waiting for HTC to fix on Telstra 6.5 is painful

championc said:
Hi all,
I have some sort of problem with the GPS. Last Saturday it suddenly wouldn't get a fix at all. I tried taking the battery out and rebooting and still no joy. Then suddenly on Monday it started working again. I was on a flight on Wednesday and it worked on the flight too. About 2 hours later, I was on a train and again, no joy but put it down to maybe some strange coating on the glass. However, I tried again yesterday while out in my car and not a dickybird.
It sounds like a loose connection in the phone or something like this. Does anyone have any photos of where the GPS unit is or how to dis-assemble it to check the firmness of the connection ? Or is there any program that I can load on my TP2 to check what the GPS is actually doing ?
C
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When you say you can't get a lock, is this in just one particular app, or have you tried multiple GPS-enabled apps? You may need to determine if the device actually isn't seeing any sats, or if your app just isn't playing nice with the com port anymore.
THIS LINK is for Chartcross' GPS Test (free), it can at least tell you if your hardware is getting a lock independent of any nav apps.

Excellent - exactly what I was looking for. I'll test the Chartcross software on the way home tonight.
C

OK, I've got a Yellow circle and it says "GPS Starting up" so obviously doesn't even start to pull down data
Any ideas on what I can do ? Could there be a loose connection somewhere inside the phone ?
C

championc said:
OK, I've got a Yellow circle and it says "GPS Starting up" so obviously doesn't even start to pull down data
Any ideas on what I can do ? Could there be a loose connection somewhere inside the phone ?
C
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Did you see it scan through the com ports when it started up? The next thing I would check is the settings (settings-all settings-system-external GPS) and see what it says on the "programs" and "access" tabs
The GPS hardware is a chip that's soldered to the motherboard, so I doubt that's come "loose"...the only other hardware connection that comes into play is the one to whatever antenna the GPS utilizes, but I honestly don't know if uses the same one as the phone/data, or if the chip itself is just a fully integrated receiver

It scanned through the ports and identified it as COM4 and set the speed to 9600. I assume the circle should go green even if the antenna was weak but would be going through the motions of acquiring data.
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championc said:
It scanned through the ports and identified it as COM4 and set the speed to 9600. I assume the circle should go green even if the antenna was weak but would be going through the motions of acquiring data.
C
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If it was seeing any sats, there would be bars in the screen, like the screenshot on their site...so yes it def looks like the phone isn't locking at all. Just to be sure, is your QuickGPS data up to date?
I'd say the next step to try before trying to crack your case open would be to follow ultramag's suggestion and flash to a different radio...some users report drastic improvements in GPS performance after taking that step

championc said:
It scanned through the ports and identified it as COM4 and set the speed to 9600. I assume the circle should go green even if the antenna was weak but would be going through the motions of acquiring data.
C
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How long did you wait? I've noticed that it can take up to 10-15 minutes before it'll lock all of them in and turn green. Are the bars moving at all?

Was running over 30 mins and stayed yellow. Bars never budged. I've had the same radio for the past 6 months at least so can't see why it would suddenly become a problem now.
Looks like my only option might be to open it up and check the connections. Everyone drops their phones now and again and I'm no different so there's every possibility of something having come loose.
Has anyone got a photo of the inside so I know what I'm looking for ? Where is the GPS ?
C

com 4 is correct as is 9600 baud. Likely the issue is with the radio you are using. T Mobile radios seem quite touchy. Try a new radio and see what you get. Start gps test first, get the gps running and locked before opening any program that needs gps to work and you likely will have better performance.

championc said:
Was running over 30 mins and stayed yellow. Bars never budged. I've had the same radio for the past 6 months at least so can't see why it would suddenly become a problem now.
Looks like my only option might be to open it up and check the connections. Everyone drops their phones now and again and I'm no different so there's every possibility of something having come loose.
Has anyone got a photo of the inside so I know what I'm looking for ? Where is the GPS ?
C
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mine was working fine and like you was doubting my hardware... seems strange as my issues started with a software update ...some telcos (Telstra in AU) software conflicts with GPS... I installed a HTC rom from Europe yesterday and GPS is now working great... even now locks while car is in garage.. the HTC Desire just released in AU is also having GPS issues on Telstra 6.5 rom ... so have you tried a rom update? as sounds like may be your issue as well...

I'm running Deepshining Rom X6. I had the previous v12RC running since it was released with no problems. I had radio 4.49.25.17 running all the time but just decided to up this to 4.49.25.77 but still no change. It still says "GPS Starting Up". I must have some sort of loose connection since it wouldn't work last Saturday or Sunday but then worked fine on Monday and Wednesday. However, it hasn't worked again since last Wednesday.
C

I just opened up my TP2. Is the GPS chip just to the left of the Camera ? (on the right is the Speaker)
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