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after a ROM flash?

What is the easiest way to get all of my settings contacts and e-mail settings back on my phone after I do a Rom upgrade?

use a backup utility before you re flash

Will a back up remember all the programs and contacts and mail settings?

I'm by no means an expert, but it was my impression that it was not a good idea to restore a backup onto a new rom. Things are not necesarily in the same place and it can cause problems. That being said i don't really know of any solutions for you.

Haven't tried it yet, but the new Spb Backup v2.0 will restore data between upgrades, don't know about each setting though. On the other hand, if it saves all registry settings and certain files (i.e. ".ini") then everything should be the same.

if you're installing another ROM, you'll do best by reinstalling all your programs. this will ensure that the programs work with the newly installed ROM. i use MS Outlook to backup contacts... backing up email settings depends on what you use for email; if you're using a POP3 account, i suggest you reenter them.... in my opinion, using backup software to reinstall your programs, settings, etc., is risky and may cause unexpected issues. good luck!

cortez.i said:
if you're installing another ROM, you'll do best by reinstalling all your programs. this will ensure that the programs work with the newly installed ROM. i use MS Outlook to backup contacts... backing up email settings depends on what you use for email; if you're using a POP3 account, i suggest you reenter them.... in my opinion, using backup software to reinstall your programs, settings, etc., is risky and may cause unexpected issues. good luck!
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THANK YOU CORTEZ!!! See I am totally new at this and its a damn good thing I dident listen to people that think they know what they are talking about.
It's outlook that i am useing. Last time I had to call me network administrator from the offi ce to get my e-mail running again. How can I save those settings?

TheChampJT said:
Haven't tried it yet, but the new Spb Backup v2.0 will restore data between upgrades, don't know about each setting though. On the other hand, if it saves all registry settings and certain files (i.e. ".ini") then everything should be the same.
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Spb Backup has been incredibly buggy for me on my Telus Touch... does it work well for anyone else?
It freezes unless I do this: back up my documents only, turn off the option to create an exe and don't use encryption.

spb back up and ROM upgrade
so,on the telus touch,have you tried the rom upgrade and used spb backup to restore?

TheChampJT said:
Haven't tried it yet, but the new Spb Backup v2.0 will restore data between upgrades, don't know about each setting though. On the other hand, if it saves all registry settings and certain files (i.e. ".ini") then everything should be the same.
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Alright, I've been able to use Spb Backup now, and it is great! You can restore on a different ROM or device!

spb back up and rom update
this may sound dumb,but ive never used spb backup(ive just downloaded it) do you install to device ,or to storage card.If installed to device,after rom update,i would need to reinstall then do a restore,correct?

imradar said:
this may sound dumb,but ive never used spb backup(ive just downloaded it) do you install to device ,or to storage card.If installed to device,after rom update,i would need to reinstall then do a restore,correct?
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Not dumb, there are always questions when you install new software. But, this is another great feature of Spb Backup, it creates self-extracting restore files, with an option to create a copy of the software as well. So install it to your main memory, and have the files kept on your card. Whenever you need to restore, just run the file, you don't even need the app installed. Also includes a desktop sync app.

Rom update
Thanks for the speedy reply,I'm just looking now for any issues doing Rom update with vista 64(Telus tech said there should be no problem,but I've yet to get the same response twice from them)Ok i hope this new update is worth the sweat!

imradar said:
Thanks for the speedy reply,I'm just looking now for any issues doing Rom update with vista 64(Telus tech said there should be no problem,but I've yet to get the same response twice from them)Ok i hope this new update is worth the sweat!
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No prob, almost forgot to mention, after restoring the data, your PC will recognize it as it did before. I really like this feature, thought all my data was going to be duplicated.

[Solved] No Restore point created when updating?

Hi all
Thought about putting NoDo on my Samsung Focus, but I hesitated, because then I will, of course, lose homebrew, which is held very dear to me. So I went ahead and installed build 7008 to test if Restore would work...
...and it didn't. Here's what my update screen now looks like:
http://societyofcode.com/iceshares/snappload_22_2_54_246_.png
And according to many blogs, it should look something like this:
http://www.intowindows.com/wp-conte...ne-7-Software-To-An-Earlier-Version-Step2.jpg
So what's the deal? I want to update to NoDo but if this happens again, I'll be out of luck. As you can see, I'm using a Samsung Focus. If anyone else is having this issue, let me know, and if you have any ideas, that would help too
Thanks.
EDIT: The pre-NoDo update doesnt create a restore point, apparently, but the NoDo update does.

with nodo it works but it's only 7004 according to the manifest file

domineus said:
with nodo it works but it's only 7004 according to the manifest file
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Well, if I update it to NoDo, and it DOESNT restore, I'm in trouble. Wonder if I can stop it if I see it skipping the restore point.

it should
although I didn't get a prenodo backup
So maybe the key is prenodo to set up the backup...
btw o/t
have you noticed any camera settings in the registry? racking my brain to find them and set them

domineus said:
it should
although I didn't get a prenodo backup
So maybe the key is prenodo to set up the backup...
btw o/t
have you noticed any camera settings in the registry? racking my brain to find them and set them
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Did you upgrade to NoDo and get a restore point then?

yup and a restore folder too in the appdata portion...but as said it looked like the restore made was of 7004 and not 7008 which is weird

domineus said:
yup and a restore folder too in the appdata portion...but as said it looked like the restore made was of 7004 and not 7008 which is weird
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So where is the actual restore point stored?

local disk > users > your user account > appdata > local > microsoft > windows phone update
I'm about to test to see if I can force zune to install the restore from the focus to dvp hopefully it'll be 7008, and remove carrier branding...wha? A guy can hope =)

domineus said:
local disk > users > your user account > appdata > local > microsoft > windows phone update
I'm about to test to see if I can force zune to install the restore from the focus to dvp hopefully it'll be 7008, and remove carrier branding...wha? A guy can hope =)
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I think the carrier branding is stored on a seperate part of the ROM, but who knows Tell me how it goes, I'll play around with mine and see what happens.

it should work - well your update that is
dell I am not too confident with but as long as I don't brick I'll be good and even if I do...insured =3 I just gotta make sure it gets to vegas for chris is all
onto editing a few data files =/

domineus said:
it should work - well your update that is
dell I am not too confident with but as long as I don't brick I'll be good and even if I do...insured =3 I just gotta make sure it gets to vegas for chris is all
onto editing a few data files =/
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Got my phone insured too, worst comes to worst I claim its defective and AT&T gives me a new one like nothing happened
What exactly are you editting?

in the restore point folder there are 3 files each associated with the zune id of the wp7 device
there may be more but what I'm doing is copying and pasting device id from the folder name into the copied restore point files
one is an xml and 2 more are .dat files
I edited them but zune wouldn't force restore for the dvp...
error code c101002E
dang same error samsung devices were getting for pre nodo...ugh I WANT REGISTRY ACCESS TO DVP!!!!

Got the restore point when I installed NoDo, sweet
Thanks for the info.

hi guys,
I am getting error 80180090 when trying to restore. Not sure why.
I updated to nodo last night. I then added a sd card to the device (focus) to test if the update improved instability issues with phone.
I then wanted to restore it so I could chevron unlock it again and the restore failed.
Help

Heres another question, can you copy this backup and store it somewhere then when you need it you can replace it over?
For example you updated it the first time (1st backup), then you rolled back to original and now u r updating it the second time (2nd backup).
Can you replace the 2nd backup with the 1st backup?
And would unlocking complicate this matter in any way?

[Q] Backup application data

Anyone know of an application that can backup application data together with market links? (for non-rooted phones)
I know TB can do that and I already use that, but now my worry comes in when SE is releasing an update this week and we aren't sure whether we are able to root after this!

I was thinking the same.. I've backed up using mybackup pro.. backs up app and data.. not sure about market links though, but it's the best non rooted back up I've found..
Sent from The Arc!

im_iceman said:
I was thinking the same.. I've backed up using mybackup pro.. backs up app and data.. not sure about market links though, but it's the best non rooted back up I've found..
Sent from The Arc!
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Thanks for the reply.
I've used Mybackup Pro before with my X10, but I it couldn't backup the data unless you provide the "root" access to it and the restoration isn't as good as TB when it comes to rooted phone.
The biggest question here is that when the update is delivered, will we be able to root again using the Gingerbreak? If yes, then I've no problem sticking with TB, but if not then my worries start

I for one am not going to update until i know the new version can be rooted.
Other than that, i can second the recommendation to use mybackup pro. It's not a titanium replacement by any means, but it gets the essentials (sms, calendar, etc etc) done perfectly well (in fact i use it for this sort of thing in preference to TB anyway).

daveybaby said:
I for one am not going to update until i know the new version can be rooted.
Other than that, i can second the recommendation to use mybackup pro. It's not a titanium replacement by any means, but it gets the essentials (sms, calendar, etc etc) done perfectly well (in fact i use it for this sort of thing in preference to TB anyway).
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Yep. Agreed.
But here I'm looking at something which can backup the data of the application as well without a rooted phone and restore it in a non-rooted phone.
Any suggestion?

sounds like this needs root to work then..
Sent from The Arc!

im_iceman said:
sounds like this needs root to work then..
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Disappointed.
Most of the phones out there (Android excluded) can do this. The best example is iPhone; thought I don't like it, I like this feature. That's the whole idea for us to connect to the PC every now and then. I don't know how hard it is for the phone makers to come up with something like this to backup the whole phone, including apps and their data; while they have access to everything since they are the manufacture of the phone.
Every now and then, surely there will be software updates and they will wipe the data. We have to setup it up from scratch and it takes a long time for that and more or less you will loss the application's data; unless you are rooted and use TB to backup; provided the "root" is still available for that software update.
Previously I tried a simple application for backing up the data of the famous game "Angry Birds". This app requires no "root", but does the job pretty well. Now when a third party application can do that means surely the phone maker should be able to do more than that!!

sprite backup is what i used before titanium backup. no need for root, but it stores everything in batch backups...

akusokuzan said:
sprite backup is what i used before titanium backup. no need for root, but it stores everything in batch backups...
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Does that application have a option to backup application (from market) together with it's data? Am I able to choose which application to backup/restore? Classic example is backup "Angry Birds" with it's completed levels and it's settings.

After the update my phone has become quite slow and freezes at times for 1-2 seconds. I would like to do a factory reset to see whether it can solve the problem but only thing stopping me from doing that is I couldn't find a software (be it a PC based software or and Phone application) that could backup my phone's application together with their data!
Any more advises or help?

Backing up stuff

Hi. What do I need in order to backup my SMS, emails, gmail, google and samsung accounts settings, general phone settings, etc, as I assume they'll get wiped if I flash firmware? Apps I'm not to bothered, I'll make a list then redownload.

Clockwork mod..
Google account sync...
Titanium backup...
My backup pro...

SMS backup from market is free for SMS.

Thanks for the suggestions. Seeing as how Titanium backup and My backup pro are all in one backup apps, they interest me the most. My Backup Pro is most appealing to me, looks dead easy to use.
But the titanium one says I need to be rooted, is that right? But I'm not rooted, so I guess it won't back up my stuff?
My Backup Pro, according to someone, you need to pay to have extra online storage as it only gives you 100mb?
It also says it needs to be rooted: "NOTE: Data/setting of applications can only be supported if you have a rooted phone, or if the application integrates with us."

Depending on the rom, you may not need to wipe.
I would recommend Titanium backup, it can do everything you want.
You cant restore everything, in titamium backup, items in red are ones you shouldnt restore unless you are willing to risk things breaking, green is for useful+safe things (eg sms's, account settings, call history) and user apps can for the most part be back'ed up and restores however you wish (data+app, just data).
You will need a rooted phone, which means odin flashing a kernel.

veyka said:
Depending on the rom, you may not need to wipe.
I would recommend Titanium backup, it can do everything you want.
You cant restore everything, in titamium backup, items in red are ones you shouldnt restore unless you are willing to risk things breaking, green is for useful+safe things (eg sms's, account settings, call history) and user apps can for the most part be back'ed up and restores however you wish (data+app, just data).
You will need a rooted phone, which means odin flashing a kernel.
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Thanks veyka. Ah well, I don't think I'll bother then since you confirmed i need a rooted phone, it's more hassle than it's worth. Guess I'll get the free SMS app which was suggested, redownload apps myself, transfer photos and movies manually to my hard drive, and re-do my phone settings. Not bothered about emails really since they're all duplicated on my pc anyway.
"Depending on the rom, you may not need to wipe." Well, all I want to do is upgrade from android 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 on my stock ROM to improve battery life.
Apparently I need to use ODIN which will wipe stuff, unless that's not the case or unless there's some other way to upgrade to 2.3.4 without losing stuff on the phone?

Roman5 said:
"Depending on the rom, you may not need to wipe." Well, all I want to do is upgrade from android 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 on my stock ROM to improve battery life.
Apparently I need to use ODIN which will wipe stuff, unless that's not the case or unless there's some other way to upgrade to 2.3.4 without losing stuff on the phone?
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You can wait for the official Samsung 2.3.4 firmware upgrade to be rolled out via KIES for your phone .
jje

JJEgan said:
You can wait for the official Samsung 2.3.4 firmware upgrade to be rolled out via KIES for your phone .
jje
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Ye, I was considering that from a warranty pov amongst other things. Is there word on an approximate relase date? Also, I don't have WI-FI for Kies Air. Will it be a file I can download to PC then use kies to transfer to my phone, just like I do now when connecting the USB cable and Kies comes up on screen then shows my phone's internal storage on my PC screen?

[Q] Titanium Backup

So here's a question for you guys.....................
I have the HTC One M8 and am rooted and S-OFF, as well as ViperOne M8 and Titanium Backup.
Whenever I get an update from Team Venom for ViperOne, I notice it says just as it's finishing the reboot (post-install) that it's upgrading my apps. So does that mean that the backups that I have (for my apps) which are stored in Titanium Backup are no longer current? I don't think the upgrade process affects the backed up data that was done pre-install, so it seems like that data would be outdated at this point?
Please answer if you think you know.
Thank You,
RockStar2005

RockStar2005 said:
So here's a question for you guys.....................
I have the HTC One M8 and am rooted and S-OFF, as well as ViperOne M8 and Titanium Backup.
Whenever I get an update from Team Venom for ViperOne, I notice it says just as it's finishing the reboot (post-install) that it's upgrading my apps. So does that mean that the backups that I have (for my apps) which are stored in Titanium Backup are no longer current? I don't think the upgrade process affects the backed up data that was done pre-install, so it seems like that data would be outdated at this point?
Please answer if you think you know.
Thank You,
RockStar2005
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No it doesn't, usually when developers release a new ROM update they also update all of their stock apps on their ROM to the newest versions. Because of that, when you reboot it tends to say that because it is updating the apps for it and or caching them. (this is to my knowledge of how it works, still though your backups are fine)

Hopefully you are only talking user installed apps? Is not a good idea to be restoring system apps.

correct, YOUR apps, that you backed up to TB are current as of the day you backed them up.
once you restore them, via TB, then of course, open play store, and let it check and see if there are any updates to YOUR previously backed up apps.

S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
No it doesn't, usually when developers release a new ROM update they also update all of their stock apps on their ROM to the newest versions. Because of that, when you reboot it tends to say that because it is updating the apps for it and or caching them. (this is to my knowledge of how it works, still though your backups are fine)
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So ViperOne is updating TB for me? If so, is that updating the TB backups as well??
Thank You,
RockStar2005

RockStar2005 said:
So ViperOne is updating TB for me? If so, is that updating the TB backups as well??
Thank You,
RockStar2005
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It is updating any apps that come with the ROM such as the HTC TV app or other HTC apps, TB is not included because it is not one of the pre-loaded apps that the developer included with the ROM. Also as stated above, the TB backups are not touched by this, they stay the same as they were when you made them soo you have to update the backups yourself if you wanted to.

Shadowz,
Ok, that's what I thought. I just needed to hear you say it in a different way to be sure. lol
So anytime there's a new update, I'm gonna need to re-backup all the apps with TB then. Seems like TB is only good if you mess something up and wanna restore the apps' data. When you're just doing an incremental update, or especially a full ROM install, then it's useless. I may just uninstall it.
Thanks Shadowz!
RockStar2005

Not really useless. You can create a daily schedule to backup your apps and data so you stay always current

stathis95194 said:
Not really useless. You can create a daily schedule to backup your apps and data so you stay always current
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THIS is the proper way to use TB...

I've used TB for years. After flashing clean, I just restore my user apps, data also for some and aside from a few system settings.... I'm right back how I was.
I use Nova, so restoring it's settings puts my home screens right back how they were too.
Not sure why people would want to mess with Nandroid data restores when this whole process above takes hardly any time and never brings issues. ?

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Not really useless. You can create a daily schedule to backup your apps and data so you stay always current
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Ehh, it was late last night when I posted that, and I was cranky. lol
I don't have the PRO/donate version ($5.99?? geez), so I can only schedule up to 2 days max for automatic backups.
Thanks Stathis.
RockStar2005

this was one of the first apps I bought years ago, as it has saved my butt many times over the years..

KJ said:
I've used TB for years. After flashing clean, I just restore my user apps, data also for some and aside from a few system settings.... I'm right back how I was.
I use Nova, so restoring it's settings puts my home screens right back how they were too.
Not sure why people would want to mess with Nandroid data restores when this whole process above takes hardly any time and never brings issues. ?
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Hi KJ,
Yeah I noticed that too as I also have Nova.
So you're saying you never do any nandroid backups? Interesting. Where do you save the TB backup files? I don't like saving them on internal storage, so I just transfer them to a flash drive or OneDrive (formerly SkyDrive).
Thanks,
RockStar2005

RockStar2005 said:
Hi KJ,
Yeah I noticed that too as I also have Nova.
So you're saying you never do any nandroid backups? Interesting. Where do you save the TB backup files? I don't like saving them on internal storage, so I just transfer them to a flash drive or OneDrive (formerly SkyDrive).
Thanks,
RockStar2005
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I occasionally do a nandroid. Only for a full restore. And usually just before wiping and Flashing something. I don't always, cause I can flash roms or stock manually just as easy.
And I just keep my TB backups on the device.

KJ said:
I occasionally do a nandroid. Only for a full restore. And usually just before wiping and Flashing something. I don't always, cause I can flash roms or stock manually just as easy.
And I just keep my TB backups on the device.
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KJ,
I see. Ok. I'm still gonna do them, but more for emergencies than anything.
I did that but then one time recently something happened and my internal storage got wiped clean. I save a copy on my external SD card, but then I thought "what if my phone got lost?", and decided to just store it on flash or cloud. Just wish TB would let you store it on THEIR own server so you don't have to worry about doing it manually or automatically elsewhere. The options they have like Google Drive don't offer as much space. I have Google Drive but don't want to give up the space. And I think DropBox is only 1 GIG? There is that Titanium variant that stores them automatically for only $2.99, but that got bad reviews.
Thanks,
RockStar2005

I've used TB for a few years now (paid version). I use it mainly to backup my user data just in case. Right now my M8 is stock (just got it and I wait until my warrenty is up before rooting etc) so I'm not really using it now. When I do root I'll be able to take my user data from a few games I'm playing on my rooted Transformer Prime and put the data on my phone. That's really the only thing I use TB for execpt for freezing bloatware so I can unfreeze, use Voodo Root Keeper (if it works on the device) and get OTA's. User data is always my biggest priority. I can reinstall any apps from the play store. Yes, this can take some time but doing it this way, when I f-up I can pick and choose what apps I put back on and leave off apps that I installed in the past but never use anymore. To each is own I guess. One good example was about a year ago Google updated the standard music app. I hated it. It screwed up all my album art and I hated the new interface. I used TB to restore the older version and it was like it never happened.