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Total data backup

Hi all,
I have flashed my Universal several times so far, and every time I did so, I have lost some of my data or had problems with backing them up and restoring them again. What I lost were, for example, all the calendar events and tasks, because AS recognized my phone as a new one and didn't let me restore backup from the "old" one. I managed to successfully backup my SMSes, but when I restored them, each of them was restored twice, and as I never delete messages I send and receive, deleting all the duplicates one by one would take about two eternities. Oh and of course I had to reinstall all my apps and games and lost all the topscores I spent ages making.
Anyway, what I want to say is that while backing up all the data could make problems to an ordinary user, I'm sure that there are some gurus that handle this with no problems, so..could any of them possibly write a tutorial on backing up all the data from important contacts to not-so-importnant-but-still-desired game scores? I know that what I'm asking for is pretty comprehensive and would take some time, but I'm sure that many users would benefit from such article. Thanks in advance to anyone who reads this and decides to reply or help
Longlife

As a TOTALLY new user this month - I was surprised to find that I can't back up my total configuration to SD card (like I could with my old HP IPAQ)
Does this mean I have to re-install applications from a PC and re-sync from a PC each time the XDA EXEC 'hard resets' ?? (quite often at the moment)
Or has someone got a 'Back up to SD' tool that can restore after a 'Hard reset' ??
OK - I Just found SPB and Sprite - which one for a Novice ??
On a related subject , how can I transfer calendar and contacts from my IPAQ ?

eddieorz said:
As a TOTALLY new user this month - I was surprised to find that I can't back up my total configuration to SD card (like I could with my old HP IPAQ)
Does this mean I have to re-install applications from a PC and re-sync from a PC each time the XDA EXEC 'hard resets' ?? (quite often at the moment)
Or has someone got a 'Back up to SD' tool that can restore after a 'Hard reset' ??
OK - I Just found SPB and Sprite - which one for a Novice ??
On a related subject , how can I transfer calendar and contacts from my IPAQ ?
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Hi and welcome I use Sprite to backup, it has upgrade mode which allows you to restore after a ROM update, saving me countless hours installing apps and re-configuring my device. SBP only restores to the same ROM

lol remind me to use sprite backup after iv re installed and downloaded al my apps after updating to windows 6 doh

MrMiguel said:
Hi and welcome I use Sprite to backup, it has upgrade mode which allows you to restore after a ROM update, saving me countless hours installing apps and re-configuring my device. SBP only restores to the same ROM
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Sounds pretty good..I'll check it out for sure thx

Well so I downloaded some kind of trial version of Sprite backup for WM5 to try it out, but when I tried installing it, at about 30% of the installation process, it told me that "the app is not intended for this type of device" and the installation enden unsuccessfuly. Could someone please post a working CAB file for Sprite backup for WM5 trial? Thanx a lot, Longlife

Longlife said:
Well so I downloaded some kind of trial version of Sprite backup for WM5 to try it out, but when I tried installing it, at about 30% of the installation process, it told me that "the app is not intended for this type of device" and the installation enden unsuccessfuly. Could someone please post a working CAB file for Sprite backup for WM5 trial? Thanx a lot, Longlife
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Um theres no trial version.. What kind of device to you have? You most likely got the PPC version when ur device is actually an SP (smartphone) or vice versa

Please USE the forum search engine and READ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278037 - it answers ALL your questions.

MrMiguel said:
Um theres no trial version.. What kind of device to you have? You most likely got the PPC version when ur device is actually an SP (smartphone) or vice versa
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I have no idea what I downloaded then I tried to backtrack the site I got it from so I could read the decription again, but I didn't find it. Anyway, it was saying that it's for WM5 and as I have HTC Universal running WM5, I thought that is should work. Now, I got SKTools though, which are free and seem pretty cool (I just hope I will be able to restore the backup I made, once i need it )

Can I just point out something, if you use a backup utility, you should only restore that backup to the same ROM build you backed up from.
Otherwise, nearly all of the optimisations in the registry, and included application shortcuts will be lost if you decide to flash a new ROM and restore your backup.
You will be wasting your time reflashing if this is what you're doing.

AlanJC said:
Can I just point out something, if you use a backup utility, you should only restore that backup to the same ROM build you backed up from.
Otherwise, nearly all of the optimisations in the registry, and included application shortcuts will be lost if you decide to flash a new ROM and restore your backup.
You will be wasting your time reflashing if this is what you're doing.
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Umm, sorry if this question is stupid, but what should I use to backup my data when flashing a new ROM then? The idea of getting a new ROM BUT losing all my data doesn't sound very good to me. Thanks,
Longlife

Full Backup in 6.1?

I've been using SPB Backup sucessfully for some time and its been an essential for someone who like to play around with the system as much as I do. I've been trying to find a piece of backup software that will work to produce a full backup with 6.1 as SPBs doent seem to fully work, even with the help of PIMbackup.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?

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hairyman said:
I've been using SPB Backup sucessfully for some time and its been an essential for someone who like to play around with the system as much as I do. I've been trying to find a piece of backup software that will work to produce a full backup with 6.1 as SPBs doent seem to fully work, even with the help of PIMbackup.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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Have you tried sprite backup?

I think that spb backup is the best... but i must affirm that sprite backup offerts more options than spb software (you can restore your data after a rom update)
This is a link for spirites abckup:
http://rapidshare.com/files/108897792/Sprite_Backup_6.2.1_PPC.Regged.rar.html

can you restore your installed software after you flash a different rom

yes, all apps you've installed and your pim, all file in \My documents and registry... all.

guyvice said:
yes, all apps you've installed and your pim, all file in \My documents and registry... all.
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How can you do that and different roms have different settings, doesn't that effect current rom functionality

I tend to find if you restore a backup with spb backup using different roms but same wm06.1 versions what tends to happen is that you end up with the rom that was backed up... BUT because there may have been different apps cooked in you find errors cropping up with soft resets needed a lot and sometimes major lockups that require hard resets.. And thats my 2 cents... cheers

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ultramag69 said:
I tend to find if you restore a backup with spb backup using different roms but same wm06.1 versions what tends to happen is that you end up with the rom that was backed up... BUT because there may have been different apps cooked in you find errors cropping up with soft resets needed a lot and sometimes major lockups that require hard resets.. And thats my 2 cents... cheers
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This is the same with sprite backup also.

So, if you want a new rom then only backup contacts and messages as there is no point to backup complete OS... Everything needs to be reinstalled anyway. these programs are just in case of events that require hard resets, no good to backup apps or anything...

ultramag69 said:
So, if you want a new rom then only backup contacts and messages as there is no point to backup complete OS... Everything needs to be reinstalled anyway. these programs are just in case of events that require hard resets, no good to backup apps or anything...
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I've you restore after a hard reset or a rom upgrade? what app have you used spb or sprite???
with spb if you do a hard reset you can restore all apps you installed and their settings, before your hard reset (but i've tested only with the same rom).

I use SPB Backup. I was saying that the full os backup is only good for HARD RESETS as it puts the complete os, registry settings and apps onto your hermes. If you reflash your os then restore your backup it overwrites the NEW os with the OLD os, however, because the new os probably doesn't have all the apps that the old os had cooked into it you get errors as the os cant find things it requires. Hope that cleared it up instead of smearing everything with mud....

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ultramag69 said:
I use SPB Backup. I was saying that the full os backup is only good for HARD RESETS as it puts the complete os, registry settings and apps onto your hermes. If you reflash your os then restore your backup it overwrites the NEW os with the OLD os, however, because the new os probably doesn't have all the apps that the old os had cooked into it you get errors as the os cant find things it requires. Hope that cleared it up instead of smearing everything with mud....
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Its also make you have issue with the new now like freezing up and etc. Its just not worth the headache. Look in UC roms it is very little work to reinstall your app. Do a search for UC roms and read up on it. I'm tell is sweet I just did it for the first time it works like a charm.

Keeping software when upgrading rom

Hi,
I've got my diamond flashed to 3.4 duttys. It's really good but I do have a few problems with it. Sometimes when you hold the hang up key to lock it it simply scrolls through the touch flo screens. I was thinking I might upgrade to 3.6 and see if that ironed out the problems. Only thing is I've got a few apps on there that i'd prefer not to lose and reinstall at the moment. Is there a way to back up all apps before flashing? I don't think PIM does it? From what I can see it's just contacts etc.
Thanks for any help

supposedly spb backup will restore installed applications, databases and file (rom upgrade mode).
Please note: I have not tried this application, nor am I affiliated. I have no experience at all..I googled and found the product. So if it doesn't work, don't be mad at me
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en

rpassmore said:
supposedly spb backup will restore installed applications, databases and file (rom upgrade mode).
Please note: I have not tried this application, nor am I affiliated. I have no experience at all..I googled and found the product. So if it doesn't work, don't be mad at me
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
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don not restore with sprite backuup.
just use pim backup for your contacts, ...

Cheers, Yeah i did try a restore with sprite once - didn't work out needless to say.
I'll take a look at SPB - thanks

cshelswell said:
Cheers, Yeah i did try a restore with sprite once - didn't work out needless to say.
I'll take a look at SPB - thanks
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SPB definitely works. I would suggest unticking the "overwrite" box when selecting ROM upgrade mode.

TBH I'd personally say just get used to it, until you find the perfect rom you are likely to change again.
Keep all the .cab's .exe's etc in a folder on the internal storage and reinstall the ones you want, it's a good way to keep the device tidy, and I think you'll probably find that you'll have to reinstall quite a few programs as you might find they keep their data spread around the filesystem.

Like Norton Ghost for Windows Mobile?

Hello,
is it possible to make a image of a running WinMo and restore it after testing some other Roms?
A Program like Norton Ghost?
Thanks

try spb backup

A lot of backup software out there, including SPB Backup as mentioned above. Just try searching under 'backup'. However for these to work you would first need to flash back the rom of which you performed the backup on, i.e. If your using Throys V4.1 and perform a backup and then flash Throys R12. To get back to the orginal you would first need to reflash V4.1 and then perform restore using backup software.
Moved to Themes, Applications and Software forum as not related to rom development

I too would be intrested in an imaging software as my company is currently thinking about using win mob devices and it'll be super-sweet if i didn't have to set them all up on their own!!
Turn phone on, install flashing software, flashing company image, job done.
Arh well. We can dream can't we??

blastman said:
Turn phone on, install flashing software, flashing company image, job done.
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This is what i want.
I heard about Sprite Backup, but is it true, that i have to install all the applications again or will the backup restore all my applications too?
Greets

PaschaD said:
This is what i want.
I heard about Sprite Backup, but is it true, that i have to install all the applications again or will the backup restore all my applications too?
Greets
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I use spb backup, once you have flashed your rom, installed all apps, done all your personal settings, backup with it.
To restore your phone you just do a hard reset, then browse to a single backup file, click it and spb restores it.
I use it to restore my phone after testing new apps etc.
And when I flash a new rom I do the following :
1. Flash rom
2. Install spb backup and a few safe apps
3. Backup
4. Install rest of apps and register all paid for apps
5. Backup again
6. Change all system settings/personal settings
7. Backup again
8. Re-check settings and make sure everthing works
9. Make final backup
10. Install games
11. Make backup with games on
This way I can easily go back a step if anything goes wrong when tweaking manila etc, and after about a week I delete all backups apart from 9 & 11, so I can easily get rid of any games once I've finished playing them.
You can't deploy a custom image onto multiple handsets with spb backup though, for this you would need sprite/spb cloning software which is considerably more expensive.
Hope I've been of some help, Dave.

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blastman said:
I too would be intrested in an imaging software as my company is currently thinking about using win mob devices and it'll be super-sweet if i didn't have to set them all up on their own!!
Turn phone on, install flashing software, flashing company image, job done.
Arh well. We can dream can't we??
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You Need SPB Clone check it on their website

SPB Clone
***Sorry Double Post***

Thank both of you.
I will try SPB Clone and the way of ferraridave.
Regards

yeah sure, for $300 I think I'll pass

backup before flashing?

I am confused about one thing. Even if I want to flash the GPS fix, from HTC website - they say everything from phone memory will be deleted.
Will active sync restore all that after the flashing is complete?
I used to have Dell Axim and there was an option in active sync to backup everything. I dont see this option anymore.
I am running SPB mobile shell which I customized and I dont want to loose all that.
Thanks!

Dunno abt flashing a fix but should be the same as flashing a radio which will not erase the data inside. ANyway it is always better to backup before doing any blockpoint changes to your devices
Use PIMBackup or Microsoft MyPhone to backup data. There are others which can also backup program and registry but personally I dun think it is a good idea as different rom operate differently and may cause problems.

leckig said:
I am confused about one thing. Even if I want to flash the GPS fix, from HTC website - they say everything from phone memory will be deleted.
Will active sync restore all that after the flashing is complete?
I used to have Dell Axim and there was an option in active sync to backup everything. I dont see this option anymore.
I am running SPB mobile shell which I customized and I dont want to loose all that.
Thanks!
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Yea thats WINCE 2003 i think. It used to have an option to backup everything! Not in WM phones!
I am sure you can backup SPB settings, just search around, and you will find the answer.

I use sprite backup. I have it from when HTC use to give it for free. I'm not sure if its still free but if u are going back to the same rom u can do a full restore and it will almost be like u never changed anything.

I use Windows Myphone and PIM backup. Both work great, but I think Myphone works better. Plus you can update your calender and contacts and other things from the computer.

i have MyPhone, but I am not sure if this backups anything besides contacts and emails etc

leckig said:
i have MyPhone, but I am not sure if this backups anything besides contacts and emails etc
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Nope, nothing more than what you mentioned. But as the other user said, spritebackup might be an option. But I wont recommened restoring on a ROM different than what you backed up from.

ai6908 said:
Nope, nothing more than what you mentioned. But as the other user said, spritebackup might be an option. But I wont recommened restoring on a ROM different than what you backed up from.
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this is a very good point.
So, to summarize, you guys that load up a different rom every day (twice), do you actually have the time to use the phone at all