Unrevoked3 / unrevoked forever ? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can someone explain ? I used unrevoked3 to root my Evo 4g a few months ago....now I just flashed the unrevoked forever zip! But I'm not to sure what it did?
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Umm, why would you flash unrevoked forever if you dont know what it does?
Unrevoked 3 basically put unrevoked forever on your phone, meaning your phone is forever rooted (as opposed to only being rooted until a reboot). Running unrevoked forever again most likely reversed your root.

sitlet said:
Umm, why would you flash unrevoked forever if you dont know what it does?
Unrevoked 3 basically put unrevoked forever on your phone, meaning your phone is forever rooted (as opposed to only being rooted until a reboot). Running unrevoked forever again most likely reversed your root.
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That is not what unrevoked forever does.... unrevoked forever unlocks nand. Basically on hboot screen stock from factory the s-on.
Unrevoked3 roots your phone for you and installs a custom recovery. It also runs unrevoked forever so that it turns s-off and unlocks nand protection.
Running unrevoked forever again more than likely did nothing. To turn the s-on again you should run the forever s-on zip but there is no need for this unless you are taking your phone to sprint for whatever reason.
You can verify that you have root several ways, to me the easiest would be to go into terminal and type su then hit enter. If the little $ symbol turns to a # symbol then you got root still.
To check for s-off go into hboot, or bootloader, and verify that s-off is showing.
That is all.
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I flashed unrevoked forever because I read that unrevoked3 was not a permanent root. And forever's forever....

unrevoked 3 IS a permanent root

Josh_Evo said:
I flashed unrevoked forever because I read that unrevoked3 was not a permanent root. And forever's forever....
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The older version, as of like ~November didn't give you nand unlock, in which you flashed the forever zip. Now that part has been integrated into the unrevoked 3, and gives you nand unlock. So if you use the latest version of it, you don't need the forever zip.

Just flash unrevoked three one click done,

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How do I root Evo running 2.2?

If this is in the wrong section, I do apologize. I have a friend who wants me to root his phone for him, but he has done all the OTA updates. Here is the info
Android2.2
Software# 3.29.651.5
Pri version 1.77_003
Prl version 60670
Browser version webkit 3.1
Baseband version 2.15.00.09.01
What is the best method for rooting? I used the Simple Root program to root mine, but I don't think that works on 2.2
Look in the Android Development section for rooting 2.2. It's not nearly as easy as simple root but the instructions are pretty clear and straightforward.
unrEVOked 3.21 works fine for rooting now
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fenixjn said:
unrEVOked 3.21 works fine for rooting now
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doesn't NAND unlock though. I just found that out. Now I'm looking for another solution. Can't seem to find SimpleRoot anywhere on the forum
HiDefinition said:
doesn't NAND unlock though. I just found that out. Now I'm looking for another solution. Can't seem to find SimpleRoot anywhere on the forum
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Unrevoked 3, the newest version, does unlock NAND. I use that method and it worked well and required only few clicks. I also rooted using the old method, Unrevoked 3 worked just as well and I am Nand unlocked.
ricsim78 said:
Unrevoked 3, the newest version, does unlock NAND. I use that method and it worked well and required only few clicks. I also rooted using the old method, Unrevoked 3 worked just as well and I am Nand unlocked.
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Apparently not. I used Unrevoked 3 last night to root my Evo and when I tried to install BusyBox it gave me a failed message saying something along the lines of "....or you are not NAND unlocked" If I'm missing something please let me know. Im ready to flash Fresh3.3 but I dont want to make any moves until I'm absolutely sure I've done everything right
Flash unrevoked 3. 21, reboot, check everything then flash unrevoked forever. But before this flash the latest version of ARMON RA, 1. 8 I think. Afterwards do a android backup FIRST. Then root. Be sure to click the "more " link at the unrevoked site, go through ALL the docs first.
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That would be nandroid backup. Do ARMON ra first, then backup, then root.
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It does unlock nand, but the first ota overwrites it that's why you also flash unrevoked forever, get it... forever.
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debugguy said:
Flash unrevoked 3. 21, reboot, check everything then flash unrevoked forever. But before this flash the latest version of ARMON RA, 1. 8 I think. Afterwards do a android backup FIRST. Then root. Be sure to click the "more " link at the unrevoked site, go through ALL the docs first.
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debugguy said:
It does unlock nand, but the first ota overwrites it that's why you also flash unrevoked forever, get it... forever.
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Ok I'll have to try this later on tonight. Off to work now. Is this still easier than using SimpleRoot because I just downloaded that as well.
debugguy said:
It does unlock nand, but the first ota overwrites it that's why you also flash unrevoked forever, get it... forever.
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Just so we have this straight. I've already flashed Unrevoked. I have S-Off and Super User and all of that.
You're saying to reflash, Reboot, check and make sure everything is cool.
Then run Unrevoked Forever BEFORE or AFTER runnin AmonRa? In the unrevoked menu I can choose my own recovery shouldn't I just do it there?
After then root again?
Ok brother, 1)Run Unrevoked 3.21 using AmonRa when that is done 2)Make a Nandroid 3)You need to put Unrevoked Forever on your SD card and flash that, its that simple, now you are rooted, S-off, nand unlocked etc....
Have fun man, always remember NANDROID, NANDROID, NANDROID!!!!!!
It has saved my ass multiple times, it doesn't matter how advanced a user you think you are EVERYONE makes mistakes.
There is no need to flash unrevoked forever if you root with unrevoked 3.21. It is already included. And if you want confirmation look at the faq for ur3.21.
wrapkgb said:
There is no need to flash unrevoked forever if you root with unrevoked 3.21. It is already included. And if you want confirmation look at the faq for ur3.21.
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This. I was about to say the same thing. UnrEVOked 3.21 does 3 things: Root, NAND unlock and S-OFF all in a nice little executable. Once you get that wonderful "Done" on unrevoked's application you are done and can flash away any custom ROM.
I used the old 2 part root method and MY evo has been rooted since June. Now my friend wants his rooted. He has also done all the ota updates. If I do unrevoked 3.21, will I be able to unroot if he ever needs to take his phone back to Sprint ??? I've read a bunch of mixed results.
matthewjulian said:
Ok brother, 1)Run Unrevoked 3.21 using AmonRa when that is done 2)Make a Nandroid 3)You need to put Unrevoked Forever on your SD card and flash that, its that simple, now you are rooted, S-off, nand unlocked etc....
Have fun man, always remember NANDROID, NANDROID, NANDROID!!!!!!
It has saved my ass multiple times, it doesn't matter how advanced a user you think you are EVERYONE makes mistakes.
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All,
I've seen lots of info saying that a EVO 4G that came with 2.2 can't be rooted but based on what I'm seeing here that looks to be outdate info? Are you guys saying that unrevoked 3.21 is meant to be used on a EVO that comes with 2.2 or one that was already rooted?? Might be a dumb question but nothing out there clearly states this...
Thanks,

What is the difference between unrevoked 3 and unrevoked forever

Could someone explain the difference? I rooted using unrevoked 3
Unrevoked Forever does not root. It is used to set your phone's security setting from S-ON to S-OFF (NAND unlock). This allows you to flash stuff like custom ROMs.
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
Unrevoked3 is a exe package that you run on your computer that will root your phone. It will also flash unrevoked forever for NAND unlock.
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3
THANK YOU!
Im slowly but shortly catching up to everythingon here. So will unrevoked forever wipe all my info off my phone?
No it will not.
So using unrevoked forever won't erase any data? Just turns the s-on to a s-off so you can flash roms,kernels,ect.? Now to back up before doing so is there anyway to back up your txt convos?
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Yes, that is what unrevoked forever does...does a NAND unlock so that you can flash stuff like custom ROMs.
Text convos...meaning the text messages right? There's a few, but the one I use to back them up is called 'SMS Backup & Restore' by Ritesh Sahu. You can find it in the market.
ICEReaction said:
Unrevoked Forever does not root. It is used to set your phone's security setting from S-ON to S-OFF (NAND unlock). This allows you to flash stuff like custom ROMs.
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
Unrevoked3 is a exe package that you run on your computer that will root your phone. It will also flash unrevoked forever for NAND unlock.
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3
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What you failed to mention, is the actual differences, Unrevoked forever requires your phone to be rooted before you can use it.
What the actual difference between unrevoked3 and unrevoked forever is.
unrevoked forever makes a change that is stored in the radio's NV memory; no ENG bootloader is necessary to continue to flash firmware images. Even if an “unrootable” OTA update is accepted, a device on which unrevoked forever has been run will still be able to reflash a custom recovery image.
What this means is that even if you unroot your phone with a stock non-rooted RUU, you will still be able to reflash a custom rooted rom to your phone.
When they were developed, unrevoked3 was just a way to get a custom recovery onto your phone, you needed to use unrevoked forever to actually root your phone.
This has been changed, unrevoked3 now also provides root.
ICEReaction said:
Yes, that is what unrevoked forever does...does a NAND unlock so that you can flash stuff like custom ROMs.
Text convos...meaning the text messages right? There's a few, but the one I use to back them up is called 'SMS Backup & Restore' by Ritesh Sahu. You can find it in the market.
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Thanks going to go look for that now
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I used unrevoked 3. I was able to download the wifi tetherin app...i am able to use wifi for free and all the rooted apps are workin on my phone. But when i check it still says s-on? Dose unrevoked 3 just give you the ability to download rooted apps but not flash custom roms?
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Unrevoked3 previously, before 3.21, only rooted your phone and flashed a custom recovery. Just download unrevoked forever, flash it, and it will give you S-OFF.
Now that i have S-off my computer seems slower when tethering. Is that normal
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Help rooting evo

Hey folks.Im trying to root my buddys evo and want to make sure i have everything in order before i go forward..
hboot is version 0.97
software 3.29.651.5
so im hoping i can just use the unrevoked forever to root his phone.Is this correct?It says i need a custom recovery how do i make a custom recovery so i can use the unrevoked forever?
Unrevoked Forever does not root, unrevoked3 does.
Since his HBOOT is 0.97, then yes you can use unrevoked3 to root.
[ROOT] unrEVOked 3.21: one-click root for Froyo, no downgrading
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Ok..thanks for the help.I installed unrevoked3 and it finished.I have the superuser icon also.BUT if i open hboot it still says s-on? Im confused about that.It looks like i got root but why is it saying S-on in hboot?
If anyone else has this same problem,here is what i did to get s-off.
After you use the unrevoked3 you now have ClockworkMod Recovery.Go download the Unrevoked Forever and put it on the root of you sd card.Now restart your phone in Hboot and go to recovery.When your in ClockworkMod Recovery you will see install zip from sd card,click.Find the Unrevoked Forever you just put on your sd card and run it.After it is finished you should now have S-Off .
Wooot!!

Rooting help

OK so my evo has the 2.10 bootloader and software version 3.70. 651.1. I tried using the Z4root method to temporarily root then flash Unrevoked Forever but hit a snag. Though the temp root works and I flashed clockworkmod and Ra recoveries, when I try to boot into recovery to flash Unrevoked Forever I just get the phone with the red triangle and exclamation mark. I'm assuming this has to do with having the newest bootloader from the latest ota but any guidance would be appreciated.
dont use z4root for the 2.10 bootloader...not a fool proof method of rooting...you need to return your evo back to stock by downloading a ruu from this site and plugging your evo into the computer and boot into boot loader and run whtat you downloaded on your desktop ....http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Supersonic
once you have the evo returned to stock, use this root method to root hboot 2.10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
this by far is the best method to root hboot 2.10
What is the point of running the Ruu? Would running an older ruu change the hboot back or leave it as-is?
Running the ruu that came with your phone will return your phone back to stock out of the box so you have a clean slate to use the root guide I gave you a link to...the root guide I gave u is the only reliable method for hboot 2.10
The reason you are having problems rooting with unrevoked is because unrevoked does not work with hboot 2.02 or 2.10
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I was rooted on 3.29 and unrooted so I could install the OTA 3.70. Unfortunately, hboot still shows S-OFF, so now I can't root or unroot. Will flashing the stock 3.70 RUU flip S-OFF back to S-ON so I can root again?
In order for you to switch between s on and s off google search unrevoked forever and use their tool to toggle s on and s off
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I had 2.02 hboot then I rooted and then derooted bc of issues. I noticed my hboot changed to 2.10. I followed the savior method and use z4root and all is well. I had zero issues.
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In order for you to switch between s on and s off google search unrevoked forever and use their tool to toggle s on and s off
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I tried unrevoked-forever-son.zip, but it looks like it runs from recovery, which I can't get into. When I try, I get the red exclamation point and can only get out with the volume up and power buttons.

Can't get S-OFF via Revolutionary

I'm currently S-ON with hboot 2.10.0001.
When I try to use Revolutionary to get s-off it tells me that I don't have the right Hboot version.
So I checked the wiki for the tool and it says I need 2.16.0001 or 2.15.0001.
I tried flashing 2.16.0001 in recovery and it appears to work but at the top of my bootloader it still says 2.10.0001?
I'm not sure what the issue is.
P.S. ive been running miui for a while and do have some root just not unlocked nand i guess.
topdnbass said:
I'm currently S-ON with hboot 2.10.0001.
When I try to use Revolutionary to get s-off it tells me that I don't have the right Hboot version.
So I checked the wiki for the tool and it says I need 2.16.0001 or 2.15.0001.
I tried flashing 2.16.0001 in recovery and it appears to work but at the top of my bootloader it still says 2.10.0001?
I'm not sure what the issue is.
P.S. ive been running miui for a while and do have some root just not unlocked nand i guess.
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have you tried unrevoked also you cant flash roms without being nand unlocked (s-off)
UPDATE: Never mind. Unrevoked forever got me S-OFF
I can certainly flash roms and access recovery. No problems there.
I definitely have root (titanium backup works and I can issue superuser commands in terminal)
Is it possible that the bootloader is wrong?
BTW I cant flash different recoveries, it goes through but when I check I still have the same recovery (Amon RA).
I used a very old method of rooting (prior to GB). Everything has been cool but I did revert to stock everything briefly about 7 months ago.
When I took my phone in cause of a burnt out battery.
Can I use unrevoked even though I'm already rooted?
Don't want to mess anything up since everything is working except small things like adaway (requires s-off and won't work unless i use ADB from recovery).
topdnbass said:
I can certainly flash roms and access recovery. No problems there.
I definitely have root (titanium backup works and I can issue superuser commands in terminal)
Is it possible that the bootloader is wrong?
BTW I cant flash different recoveries, it goes through but when I check I still have the same recovery (Amon RA).
I used a very old method of rooting (prior to GB). Everything has been cool but I did revert to stock everything briefly about 7 months ago.
When I took my phone in cause of a burnt out battery.
Can I use unrevoked even though I'm already rooted?
Don't want to mess anything up since everything is working except small things like adaway (requires s-off and won't work unless i use ADB from recovery).
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I myself can't help with the unrevoked ?s because I never rooted a phone with unrevoked
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Lmao revolutionary on 2.2
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Why not update to 2.3.3 OTA and then use unrevoked takes 3 minutes to root
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