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Whats the root method to use these days

OK guys (and gals) I'm a noob and totally confused myself trying to read 1000s of pages here in the forum. I'm currently running OTA 3.26.651.6 and understand there's a 3.29.****.5 OTA now available. I tried TheBiles idiot proof guide but the link in step 30 is broke. Most of the guides out there seem to be out of date. So I'm looking for some advice from the PROS on which to use and how to use. Remember im a noob so keep it simple. Also is there a glossory about all this like:
What is;(and what do they benefit)
ClokWorkMod
NAND
Rom Manager
ect.

smokinbanger said:
OK guys (and gals) I'm a noob and totally confused myself trying to read 1000s of pages here in the forum. I'm currently running OTA 3.26.651.6 and understand there's a 3.29.****.5 OTA now available. I tried TheBiles idiot proof guide but the link in step 30 is broke. Most of the guides out there seem to be out of date. So I'm looking for some advice from the PROS on which to use and how to use. Remember im a noob so keep it simple. Also is there a glossory about all this like:
What is;(and what do they benefit)
ClokWorkMod
NAND
Rom Manager
ect.
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unrevoked 3.21
You run it on your computer, plug in your phone, and follow the directions. You get full root and ClockworkMod recovery installed on your phone, as well as unrevoked forever. It's super easy.
Pros:
It's super easy
It gives you full root
It gives you root forever (unrevoked forever)
Takes care of everything (root, custom recovery, "S-OFF" AKA unrevoked forever)
Thoroughly tested
Cross-platform support
You can actually set any custom recovery image you want through the menu
Cons:
You need a computer

sturmen - thanks for the quick reply. Also should i update to OTA 3.29*** before or after (or never) i use this method?

Don't update through Sprint (ever). That's not how we roll around here. You're gonna want to root your phone as it is, then flash a custom ROM. You can tell which ones are based on the latest OTA on that wiki page; flashing one essentially "updates" you to that version. Personally, I recommend Fresh Evo 3.3.0.1 if you like Sense, or CyanogenMod v6.0.0 if you don't.

The biles guide was made a while ago, so it makes sense it is out of date. The best next one, that works, would be regaws method. There is even a mac guide using his method if you have a mac.

Will the current unrevoked3 work with build number 3.29.651.5?

OK I ran the unrEVOked3 and it said "done". Do i still need to run unrEVOked forever?

JtotheEremy said:
Will the current unrevoked3 work with build number 3.29.651.5?
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Yes, the newest version of unrevoked3 worked for me with 3.29.651.5.
Sent from my EVO running Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo and King's #10 CFS.

Thanks Bud

smokinbanger said:
OK I ran the unrEVOked3 and it said "done". Do i still need to run unrEVOked forever?
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I've been wondering this as well. I ran the newest unrevoked3 and it gave me full NAND unlock and S-off but I'm not sure if it is permanent and if I should run forever as well.... would appreciate some input on this!
Sent from my EVO running Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo and King's #10 CFS.

Drakhar said:
I've been wondering this as well. I ran the newest unrevoked3 and it gave me full NAND unlock and S-off but I'm not sure if it is permanent and if I should run forever as well.... would appreciate some input on this!
Sent from my EVO running Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo and King's #10 CFS.
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Straight from Unrevoked 3.21 RootWiki: here
Does this permanently unlock the NAND flash on my phone?
Yes. The default configuration of this tool disables the phone's security, which also disables the NAND locks placed on the storage by the bootloader. If you choose not to disable security, the /system partition will be read-only after the tool completes.

Using Old Backup's with this?
Here is my question on this. I just recieved my new phone today and I am planning on using this method to root my phone. Before I gave up my old phone I did a Nand backup which has all of my programs my "fresh rom" and ect. on it. Now on the old phone I used the Toast method and nand unlock to root my phone. Will I be able to just do a normal nand restore after I use the unrevoked3 to unlock my new phone? Or do I have to start all over? I checked on the sd card in the Nandroid backup is there. Thank you in advance

ICEReaction said:
Straight from Unrevoked 3.21 RootWiki: here
Does this permanently unlock the NAND flash on my phone?
Yes. The default configuration of this tool disables the phone's security, which also disables the NAND locks placed on the storage by the bootloader. If you choose not to disable security, the /system partition will be read-only after the tool completes.
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Thanks.
I read that the other day, but I kept reading posts stating to run unrevoked forever after unrevoked3 to make it permanent. Was a little confused... I guess unrevoked 3.21 includes unrevoked forever, lots of contradicting posts though.

one thing about that wiki that confuses me is when it talks about .ZIP ROMS, once i use unrevoked can I use Fresh's .ZIP?

Drakhar said:
Thanks.
I read that the other day, but I kept reading posts stating to run unrevoked forever after unrevoked3 to make it permanent. Was a little confused... I guess unrevoked 3.21 includes unrevoked forever, lots of contradicting posts though.
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Unrevoked 3 was pre-Unrevoked 3.21. That did not do Nand unlock and S-Off and required you to flash Unrevoked Forever to get Nand unlock and S-Off.

JtotheEremy said:
one thing about that wiki that confuses me is when it talks about .ZIP ROMS, once i use unrevoked can I use Fresh's .ZIP?
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.zip ROMs are flashed via recovery. unrevoked should give you CWM recovery, and therefore you should be able to flash ROMs (including Fresh). Make sure you back up, and also wipe data, cache, and dalvik-cache before flashing. If you need help with that, here's a step-by-step:
Have full root with NAND unlock, by unrevoked 3.21 (recommended) or otherwise
Download the ROM you want in .zip format (Go for Fresh!)
Put the .zip into the root of your microSD card
Install Quick Boot from the Market
Use Quick Boot to enter recovery
Go to nandroid, then make a backup
Go to wipe, and wipe data, wipe cache, and wipe dalvik-cache
Select "Flash zip from SD card"
Select the one you downloaded
Let it run
Reboot your phone
Congratulations! You are now part of the cool kids club!
Alternately, purchase ROM Manager Premium which allows you to download, backup, wipe and flash all in one step from within Android and without interacting with recovery. $4.99 and totally worth it.

sturmen said:
Don't update through Sprint (ever). That's not how we roll around here. You're gonna want to root your phone as it is, then flash a custom ROM. You can tell which ones are based on the latest OTA on that wiki page; flashing one essentially "updates" you to that version. Personally, I recommend Fresh Evo 3.3.0.1 if you like Sense, or CyanogenMod v6.0.0 if you don't.
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OK, but what about those of us that don't want a custom ROM? Is there any reliable way of getting from root 3.26 to root 3.29 without a data wipe?
As far as I can tell my best reliable option is:
1) Use Titanium Backup to backup all my apps/settings
2) Use unrevoked3 and the stock 3.29 ROM here to upgrade to 3.29 and regain root
3) Reinstall Titanium and restore my apps/settings
Is this correct, or is there an easier way?

Drakhar said:
I've been wondering this as well. I ran the newest unrevoked3 and it gave me full NAND unlock and S-off but I'm not sure if it is permanent and if I should run forever as well.... would appreciate some input on this!
Sent from my EVO running Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo and King's #10 CFS.
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Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
S-off is unrevoked forever. So if it shows S-off in the boot loader then your good, u don't need to do anything else.

Shane112358 said:
OK, but what about those of us that don't want a custom ROM? Is there any reliable way of getting from root 3.26 to root 3.29 without a data wipe?
As far as I can tell my best reliable option is:
1) Use Titanium Backup to backup all my apps/settings
2) Use unrevoked3 and the stock 3.29 ROM here to upgrade to 3.29 and regain root
3) Reinstall Titanium and restore my apps/settings
Is this correct, or is there an easier way?
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On another Evo which I've helped root, I just downloaded the new 3.29 rooted stock ROM, wiped cache/davlik cache, flash new ROM, reboot, then go back and flash the new radio/PRI stuff and it works without having to wipe phone data.

rmig825 said:
Here is my question on this. I just recieved my new phone today and I am planning on using this method to root my phone. Before I gave up my old phone I did a Nand backup which has all of my programs my "fresh rom" and ect. on it. Now on the old phone I used the Toast method and nand unlock to root my phone. Will I be able to just do a normal nand restore after I use the unrevoked3 to unlock my new phone? Or do I have to start all over? I checked on the sd card in the Nandroid backup is there. Thank you in advance
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It is my understanding that as long as you have the same Recovery flashed (Clockwork or Amon RA) as you did on your old phone you should be able to copy the backups to your SD card (maintaining the same directory structure as they were before) and restore them without issue.

[Q] What rooting method should I use? HELP!

Hey guys I'm new to this forum so please dont chew me out. I have a few questions about rooting my evo 4g on 2.2 froyo. I have done some extreme extensive research in the past week, and I have heard that unrEVOked methods are bad and cause alot of problems. Now im fully convinced that one-click methods are trashy because they dont even tell you what their methods are. So can someone in this forum please tell me whats the best updated ROOT method as of today? (thats not using unrevoked, simple root or any one click methods).

I'd like to know too!
This is my first dealings with a phone that has more than a camera on it (n00b). I pay for the $30 hot spot with sprint, but have been researching and found that you can do it by rooting your evo.
I backed up all my contacts to the sd card and copyed the sd to my pc. Installed htc sync and have pdanet. Thats it, I havent backed it up or anything.
Just got it so its 2.2, 3.30.651.2. I think I read some where that 3.30.651.2 cant be rooted if it was factory installed. Dont know the date of the thread i saw it on but is that true?
Any help about backing up before root would be great as well. Thanks a million

DZbadfish said:
This is my first dealings with a phone that has more than a camera on it (n00b). I pay for the $30 hot spot with sprint, but have been researching and found that you can do it by rooting your evo.
I backed up all my contacts to the sd card and copyed the sd to my pc. Installed htc sync and have pdanet. Thats it, I havent backed it up or anything.
Just got it so its 2.2, 3.30.651.2. I think I read some where that 3.30.651.2 cant be rooted if it was factory installed. Dont know the date of the thread i saw it on but is that true?
Any help about backing up before root would be great as well. Thanks a million
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=828437

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thats a one click method....is that for phones running froyo 2.2? how do i know if that method will work? thats only for phones running hboot 2.02 how do i know i have that?

IMO, some of the older revisions of unrevoked had some issues and that's what tainted their methods. The latest iteration is stable and I would recommend going with it if you are on 3.29.
3.30 requires the s-off method posted above.

eyeballer1 said:
IMO, some of the older revisions of unrevoked had some issues and that's what tainted their methods. The latest iteration is stable and I would recommend going with it if you are on 3.29.
3.30 requires the s-off method posted above.
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Im running 3.29.651 . So I dont think ill be using the s-off method. Okay I understand now, so unrevoked fixed their crap i guess. So should i go with unrevoked 3.21 ?

evo4gfan said:
Im running 3.29.651 . So I dont think ill be using the s-off method. Okay I understand now, so unrevoked fixed their crap i guess. So should i go with unrevoked 3.21 ?
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Yeah, I've rooted 1 evo with the downgrade method and 3 with unrevoked. Unrevoked is faster and results are the same. Just follow the instructions carefully.
The only change I would make is download the amon ra 1.8.0 recovery .img (not the .zip) and in unrevoked before you start the flash, go to options and choose custom recovery and load the amon img. This way you'll be rooted with amon recovery not clockwork and you're all set.

the downgrade method was the one posted by dan wager (regaw_leinad) in late august right? So the link you posted is the latest one ?
Wait so, how do i get amon RA on my phone? am i supposed to get it after I root or during the root process? What about the nandroid backup? Can you tell me how to do that after i root? I know im supposed to download and flash the 2.2 rooted ROM and do a nandroid back up i think. I need a walk through =[

evo4gfan said:
the downgrade method was the one posted by dan wager (regaw_leinad) in late august right? So the link you posted is the latest one ?
Wait so, how do i get amon RA on my phone? am i supposed to get it after I root or during the root process? What about the nandroid backup?
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Yep that's the one. The link I posted is the guide for 3.29 unrevoked. Get the amon recovery here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026.
You load that .img file into the unrevoked app before you connect your phone, there's an option for custom recovery. Once unrevoked is finished. You can boot into recovery and make your first nandroid. After that, time to play

bumppppppp

You don't need to flash anything when you're done. You will be rooted with your current stock set up. Just boot into recovery and go to backup to make a nandroid.

ok that makes sense.... I need amon RA to do a nandroid back up right? can you tell me the process for putting amon RA on the phone? Do i need to do it during the root process? or after? Is the link you provided the latest version of amon RA?

bumppppppppp

Ok, seriously, stop bumping the thread for no reason at all.
The instructions are clear in the links I have given you as well as what I have said in this thread in terms of loading amon ra into unrevoked. You are free to reset to factory defaults at any point if you want to, there isn't any need to do that, as if you ever want to return to complete stock, you can wipe at any point and flash a stock ROM. You get into recovery by powering on the phone and holding vol down.
Your first post says "I have done some extreme extensive research" - clearly you have not, if you had, you wouldn't be asking the questions you are.
This is my last post on this, go read more before you start rooting and screw something up.
Good luck.

eyeballer1 said:
Ok, seriously, stop bumping the thread for no reason at all.
The instructions are clear in the links I have given you as well as what I have said in this thread in terms of loading amon ra into unrevoked. You are free to reset to factory defaults at any point if you want to, there isn't any need to do that, as if you ever want to return to complete stock, you can wipe at any point and flash a stock ROM. You get into recovery by powering on the phone and holding vol down.
Your first post says "I have done some extreme extensive research" - clearly you have not, if you had, you wouldn't be asking the questions you are.
This is my last post on this, go read more before you start rooting and screw something up.
Good luck.
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You didn't tell me how to load amon ra into unrevoked. How do i load it into unrevoked when it requires the device to be rooted and nand to be unlocked?

eyeballer1 said:
Ok, seriously, stop bumping the thread for no reason at all.
The instructions are clear in the links I have given you as well as what I have said in this thread in terms of loading amon ra into unrevoked. You are free to reset to factory defaults at any point if you want to, there isn't any need to do that, as if you ever want to return to complete stock, you can wipe at any point and flash a stock ROM. You get into recovery by powering on the phone and holding vol down.
Your first post says "I have done some extreme extensive research" - clearly you have not, if you had, you wouldn't be asking the questions you are.
This is my last post on this, go read more before you start rooting and screw something up.
Good luck.
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unrevoked gives me an option to copy the .img into it during the process?

[Q] need help rooting htc evo

need help rooting evo with software number 3.29.651.5, I have seen many videos and read alot but found none for this build. Please help.....

use unrevoked

i need help as well...but I have 3.30.651.3. Just bought it 20 mins ago

+1 easiest method for 3.29 and 3.30 is use unrevoked 3.21 also change recovery at the time of root to RA.
Follow below steps, but also download last anon_ra recovery( put on desktop or a location you will remember). So when you get to the reflash step, go to file select customer recovery and chose anon_ra rather than clockworks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304

chaoticallysweet said:
+1 easiest method for 3.29 and 3.30 is use unrevoked 3.21 also change recovery at the time of root to RA.
Follow below steps, but also download last anon_ra recovery( put on desktop or a location you will remember). So when you get to the reflash step, go to file select customer recovery and chose anon_ra rather than clockworks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
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Pretty sure unrevoked currently does not work for 3.30.

_MetalHead_ said:
Pretty sure unrevoked currently does not work for 3.30.
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I thought it didn't work for 3.70?

correct unrevoked 3.21 and 3.22 work for all evo's except for 3.70

So which method should I use?

NewZJ said:
correct unrevoked 3.21 and 3.22 work for all evo's except for 3.70
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+1 I rooted my friends and she had 3.30 with unrevoked.

Any way to root HTC Evo 2.2 droid on 3.70 Build??
Is there any method whatso ever that has been tested to root Evo 2.2 droid on 3.70 Build?

chaoticallysweet said:
+1 I rooted my friends and she had 3.30 with unrevoked.
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This is good to know, my buddy has been waiting for me to root his but I was waiting on unrevoked. I had no idea it worked with 3.30 evos.

So I can do the unrevoked on mine. Awesome will try in the morning. Is it easier on a 3.30 or a 3.70 Rom. Cause I can update if need be.
Sent from my Evo using XDA App

Hey well I am rooted by using zikronix method he posted HERE. The unrevoked apparantly doesn't like when you have a hardware of 004 like I have so I didn't try that one....reading a lot helps lol. All those steps reminded me when I rooted my Hero a yr ago!!

I was pretty sure unrvoked didn't work for 3.30 because it had the new hboot? Report back if it works. Doubt it though. I would define tally use zikronix method. Had plenty of successful roots there. Very good.

doeboy1984 said:
So I can do the unrevoked on mine. Awesome will try in the morning. Is it easier on a 3.30 or a 3.70 Rom. Cause I can update if need be.
Sent from my Evo using XDA App
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on 3.30 if you update you will need to use z4root, not unrevoked. Keep it on 3.30

not just z4root. that is part of the method, but then you need to flash the misc with the engineering build before flashing into a rooted rom in order to turn s-off with unrevoked-forever then flashing up to a alternate recovery. so yeah stay with 3.30

{Q} Very Confused. Hboot 2.10 S-on but I'm rooted?

Okay long story short...Replaced my EVO 3 months ago. Used unrevoked to root and have been on Miui for quite some time...
I want to flash the newest radio/wiimax/PRI ect but when I went into Bootloader to flash the PC36img.zip nothing happened. The bootloader finds the img file but nothing else happens. I then noticed that it says S-ON.
I'm confused. I thought in order to be rooted you have to be S-off? If that is the case how can I flash any rom I want? I also have AMON 2.3 recovery flashed as well...
Also, I would like to get to S-off so if I follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045 Will it work? Can I follow this guide with how my phone is now or do I have to unroot first? Thanks in advance.

Starzboy77 said:
Okay long story short...Replaced my EVO 3 months ago. Used unrevoked to root and have been on Miui for quite some time...
I want to flash the newest radio/wiimax/PRI ect but when I went into Bootloader to flash the PC36img.zip nothing happened. The bootloader finds the img file but nothing else happens. I then noticed that it says S-ON.
I'm confused. I thought in order to be rooted you have to be S-off? If that is the case how can I flash any rom I want? I also have AMON 2.3 recovery flashed as well...
Also, I would like to get to S-off so if I follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045 Will it work? Can I follow this guide with how my phone is now or do I have to unroot first? Thanks in advance.
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The original Unrevoked 3.1 came out and could root the EVO before they released Unrevoked Forever. I think all you need to do is go check out the Unrevoked Forever site (http://www.unrevoked.com/forever) and you should be able to S-OFF your rooted EVO so that the bootloader will be able to apply the PC36IMG.zip files.

I thought in order to be rooted you have to be S-off?
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Correct. Possibly you got unrooted by trying to flash the new ota.

tpbklake said:
The original Unrevoked 3.1 came out and could root the EVO before they released Unrevoked Forever. I think all you need to do is go check out the Unrevoked Forever site (http://www.unrevoked.com/forever) and you should be able to S-OFF your rooted EVO so that the bootloader will be able to apply the PC36IMG.zip files.
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Thank you so much! I am now S-off by running the Unrevoked Forever.Zip file. Flashing radios now. Thanks again! I assume that I'll have to flash a Sense ROM to update profile after I flash the radios?

yup.
blah

I have the same issue. I am fully rooted but s-on. Im guessing it happened when i flashed the latest radio update.

sitlet said:
Correct. Possibly you got unrooted by trying to flash the new ota.
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Wrong. S off is just the security setting. It has no correlation with being rooted. You can be rooted and still be s on like the op.
S off only enables the hboot to flash unsigned/unofficial images to the partitions. S off also allows the system to be written to while android is booted.
The unrevoked forever instructions even state you need to be rooted and have a custom recovery in order to set s off.

lovethyEVO said:
Wrong. S off is just the security setting. It has no correlation with being rooted. You can be rooted and still be s on like the op.
S off only enables the hboot to flash unsigned/unofficial images to the partitions. S off also allows the system to be written to while android is booted.
The unrevoked forever instructions even state you need to be rooted and have a custom recovery in order to set s off.
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Very good post. There is alot of misconception about this. Glad someone cleared it up

[Q] Factory Reset to Downgrade

I am having a stupid hard time downgrading my Girlfriend's Incredible to install a custom ROM. I tried UnRevoked 3.22 with the custom CWM and all kinds of different instructions from various sites. My question is: If I factory reset it from the bootloader, does it downgrade it back to 2.1?

No, factory reset just deletes your data. What is your phone setup, Android version, have you unlocked it through the HTC website (if not, DON'T do it), etc?

SlimSnoopOS said:
No, factory reset just deletes your data. What is your phone setup, Android version, have you unlocked it through the HTC website (if not, DON'T do it), etc?
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She's on the newest OTA. I wanna say 2.3.6. And, no it has not been unlocked. When I use the newest UnRevoked, it says the firmware is too new. When I try to using UnRevoked 3.22 it says the same.

I'm in the same boat, have a Droid Inc that has a newer radio that seems to be not supported, none of the unrevoked apps will root it.
It does have an unlocked bootloader and is S-OFF.. unlocked the bootloader after the rooting methods kept failing.. is that bad?

You need to use the adb method to get s-off and root if the rev 3.22 isn't working. I did it and all is just fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
Sent from my unrEVOked forever Dinc, CM7.1.0

http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/427344-how-root-2-3-4-downgrade-get-s-off.html
Sent from my unrEVOked forever Dinc, CM7.1.0

normanx said:
You need to use the adb method to get s-off and root if the rev 3.22 isn't working. I did it and all is just fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
Sent from my unrEVOked forever Dinc, CM7.1.0
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Thank you! Gonna try it ASAP!

No problem, have any issues just ask....

normanx said:
No problem, have any issues just ask....
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Everything's great so far! Custom ROM and everything. Thank you very much, man.

No problem. Glad it worked for ya.
Sent from my unrEVOked forever Dinc, CM7.1.0