[Q] Amonra doesn't backup RSA keys afterall? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I heard it backed up RSA key but i checked a few days ago and saw that my RSA keys were gone so today i found the oldest Nandroid which is from the day i rooted my EVO...run Wimax RSA key checker and my RSA keys are still gone i used the caulking format zip and then flashed the old nandroid...or am i doing something wrong?

Have you manually looked into the folder on a computer, mounted sdcard of course. Calkulin's format all doesn't touch wimax, and amon_ra only backs up the wimax keys if you select it in the backup, its not selected by default.

teh roxxorz said:
Have you manually looked into the folder on a computer, mounted sdcard of course. Calkulin's format all doesn't touch wimax, and amon_ra only backs up the wimax keys if you select it in the backup, its not selected by default.
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Thanks for replying could you tell me how i select it in the backups? So im guessing my RSA keys are gone?

catdeerduck said:
Thanks for replying could you tell me how i select it in the backups? So im guessing my RSA keys are gone?
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No prob. After you select backup, you see 3 X's checked, those are the default minimum required. If you scroll down and select [with power button] on another item, i.e wimax, it'll go back to the top, but wimax will have an X next to it. When you have backed up what you wanted, select backup, then push the power button a second time to confirm it.
Edit: And unfortunately, your keys are gone and can't be retrieved...you'd need to procure a new Evo.

What version of amonra are you using
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deviouskater said:
What version of amonra are you using
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Now im using the new one back then i dont remember

The process should have been the same, even on older versions.

teh roxxorz said:
No prob. After you select backup, you see 3 X's checked, those are the default minimum required. If you scroll down and select [with power button] on another item, i.e wimax, it'll go back to the top, but wimax will have an X next to it. When you have backed up what you wanted, select backup, then push the power button a second time to confirm it.
Edit: And unfortunately, your keys are gone and can't be retrieved...you'd need to procure a new Evo.
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Guess im going to sprint store soon

catdeerduck said:
Guess im going to sprint store soon
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Yup. Make sure the phone is unrooted. Just say it started happening after you accepted the latest OTA.

teh roxxorz said:
The process should have been the same, even on older versions.
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I'm still on 1.8.0 and it doesn't have those options. When you choose nand backup it asks you y/n? and that's it. It has been verified though that the older versions do back up the RSA keys, so I don't know why OP is having this issue.

_MetalHead_ said:
I'm still on 1.8.0 and it doesn't have those options. When you choose nand backup it asks you y/n? and that's it. It has been verified though that the older versions do back up the RSA keys, so I don't know why OP is having this issue.
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yeah I am prettty sure you didn't get those options until 2.3

Amon RA 1.7 didn't backup rsa
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Ok. Here we go.
Amon-ra version 1.8 and below automatically creates a file inside the nandroid folder named "Wimax.img"( or similar), where the wimax partition is backed up.
The issue is if you have a valid RSA key, then it will be backup and restored. If it was missing when you backed up then it won't be in the "Wimax.img". You can test the contents of the wimax.img the same as you can the installed wimax partition.
Search for "grep RSA" you'll find the exact syntax to use in a terminal app. to find whether the RSA keys are present in the nandroid folder's wimax.img.
Good luck.

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[Q] New replacement Old Nand backups

My replacement phone will at my house tomorrow morning (assuming fedex delivers tomorrow) after swapping SD cards and rooting the new one can I restore my old backup from that SD card and start from where I left off? Thanks for all your help guys
Not recomended.. you might get a different hw version or might loose radio and wimax and all that
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+1 don't do it! you will break your new phone, not might, WILL
Oh wow, thanks for the advice guys but what about my Titanium backups?
they are fine
Cool cool, Thanks again
corzo002 said:
Oh wow, thanks for the advice guys but what about my Titanium backups?
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Ya you dont want to overwrite your RSA keys and loose your 4g keys.
can't lose rsa with titanium
NewZJ said:
can't lose rsa with titanium
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Wasn'talking about tb, I was saying the old phones nandroid on new phone will.
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nandroid backups dont back up RSA keys....until now with clockwork 3.0...he should be able to restore fine.
RA recovery does, either way it's not safe
locoboi187 said:
nandroid backups dont back up RSA keys....until now with clockwork 3.0...he should be able to restore fine.
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RA has for quite some time. That's how many people here lost their RSA keys.
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locoboi187 said:
nandroid backups dont back up RSA keys....until now with clockwork 3.0...he should be able to restore fine.
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Amon_Ra has for quite a long time now actually. He should NOT restore but to each their own. Setting up a phone back up from sratch isnt all that bad anyways.
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locoboi187 said:
nandroid backups dont back up RSA keys....until now with clockwork 3.0...he should be able to restore fine.
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This is for sure? I preferred CWM to Ra on my hero and only use Rate now because of RSA keys....if its safe to switch I will...
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Vandelay007 said:
This is for sure? I preferred CWM to Ra on my hero and only use Rate now because of RSA keys....if its safe to switch I will...
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the new clockwork only works with the newer 2 series hboot, won't work with older
Don't do it.
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wow lets haave everyone rip me apart today ;P
don't take it personal, everybody learns new stuff each day here

[Q] renaming nandroid backups

I have read around on the forums. I use Amon-ra and would like to rename some of my nand backups. I think the general advice is it will be fine as long as there is not any spaces in the name. If there is anything im missing before I do this.
Thanks.
mainstang said:
I have read around on the forums. I use Amon-ra and would like to rename some of my nand backups. I think the general advice is it will be fine as long as there is not any spaces in the name. If there is anything im missing before I do this.
Thanks.
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go head sir!
As far as I know, spaces get converted to _ , so you should be fine either way.
your all set, here is what i name all my NAND's and everyone has showed up in Amon's
YYYY.MM.DD.ROMNAME.VERSION.THEME(if installed).Version(if different versions of themes/captured)
2011.02.14.WARM.RLS5.MB
today's date Warm RLS5 with matte blues theme
mainstang said:
I have read around on the forums. I use Amon-ra and would like to rename some of my nand backups. I think the general advice is it will be fine as long as there is not any spaces in the name. If there is anything im missing before I do this.
Thanks.
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Not sure about amon, but i have clockwork, and I renamed my backups with the rom name after the date/time. When I went to restore them, I got a md5 mismatch error. I had to rename them back to what clockwork created to restore the backup. So just make sure you keep the date/time so if you need to, you can revert back to that.
sitlet said:
Not sure about amon, but i have clockwork, and I renamed my backups with the rom name after the date/time. When I went to restore them, I got a md5 mismatch error. I had to rename them back to what clockwork created to restore the backup. So just make sure you keep the date/time so if you need to, you can revert back to that.
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Did you use an incorrect character, because I completely change mine, and no errors. A typical backup name for me might look like: CM7 build# xFeb
sitlet said:
Not sure about amon, but i have clockwork, and I renamed my backups with the rom name after the date/time. When I went to restore them, I got a md5 mismatch error. I had to rename them back to what clockwork created to restore the backup. So just make sure you keep the date/time so if you need to, you can revert back to that.
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Only rename the folder, don't rename the files inside the folder.
Dude, just add a couple letters after the file. For example: if its a Fresh Rom you can just add xxxxxxFR at the end.
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The last time I renamed my backups using Amon-ra, I was unable to restore in recovery. So, I just use a note app(ColorNote) to label my backups using the last 4 digits from the backup number. That way I know I won't have any issues.
I rename mine to what ever the date is and the ROM. Thats it. I use the dash symbol instead of the underscore cause for some reason it wouldnt recognize the underscores when I tried to restore. I also tried using dots instead of underscores and they wouldnt work for me either. I have found the only one that would work for me was the dash and Im on Amon Ra...
I rename my nands they look like this--> cm6wimaxalpha3 <-- or like -->cm7wimaxstockkernel <--
Without the arrows or dashes.
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[Q] missing wimax

how do i get my wimax back? I dont have a nandroid that contains wimax
quikswitch said:
how do i get my wimax back? I dont have a nandroid that contains wimax
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Getting a new phone. Without a nandroid backup of your WIMAX partition, your keys are lost forever. They can not be recreated.
What did you do that made you lose Wimax?
Did you flash a ROM that doesn't have 4G?
You can check your RSA keys by downloading the RSA key checker app from the market.
kd0axs said:
What did you do that made you lose Wimax?
Did you flash a ROM that doesn't have 4G?
You can check your RSA keys by downloading the RSA key checker app from the market.
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OP you can do ^, but if they show that your keys aren't present and you have no backup, you're out of luck there buddy.
Does this means even if you lose your keys etc - while flashing rom without 4G - you can still get them back if you have nandroid backup ?
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erik077 said:
Does this means even if you lose your keys etc - while flashing rom without 4G - you can still get them back if you have nandroid backup ?
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Yes, you can restore them if you have a backup of wimax.img
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How do I restore wimax rsa key?

I have looked in cwm and it finds a partition but no image file. Any ideas? Thanks
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sugewhite said:
I have looked in cwm and it finds a partition but no image file. Any ideas? Thanks
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Hopefully you had a backup. Just restore it.
I went to the last nandroid I did from 8/10 and its not there.
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go through your nandroid backups, and find one with the rsa keys. once you find the rsa keys, back it up on that rom and reflash your current rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887900
You can actually remove all of the ".img" files except for the WiMax.img file from any backup folder and then restore that backup, making it only restore the WiMax key and not whatever ROM you backed up.
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You can actually remove all of the ".img" files except for the WiMax.img file from any backup folder and then restore that backup, making it only restore the WiMax key and not whatever ROM you backed up.
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It cant find any wimax img on my sd card at all. Am I stuck and I need to replace the phone now?
sugewhite said:
It cant find any wimax img on my sd card at all. Am I stuck and I need to replace the phone now?
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Unless there's some method I don't know about, yes. Hopefully you're still in your first year with it. Tell them 4G doesn't work (and unroot it of course). You'll have to bring it to a Sprint store.

[Q] Nandroid backup help

Hey guys i cracked my evo again yesterday so im probably going to go get another one sometime soon. Is it possible to make a nandroid of my current evo and restore it on my new evo? If so HOW do it do it and WHAT do i need to backup im running armon ra 2.3 so i can pick and choose what to backup. Thanks guys!
Im not an evo expert seeing as i have a galaxy s 4g but i believe if you somehow edit the md5 sum of either the phone or the backup, you can use it on pretty much any phone (well not any, like you couldnt take a nand of an evo custom rom and run it on a galaxy s)
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Restoring a backup in that manner can brick your evo. What you do is backup all of the apps and data to titanium backup on the sd card, then put that sd card in the new evo, use revolutionary to root it, then after root, restore ONLY apps and data, NOT system settings. You can restore launcher settings as well, just re add the widgets.
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teh roxxorz said:
Restoring a backup in that manner can brick your evo. What you do is backup all of the apps and data to titanium backup on the sd card, then put that sd card in the new evo, use revolutionary to root it, then after root, restore ONLY apps and data, NOT system settings. You can restore launcher settings as well, just re add the widgets.
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Well I saw on another thread that like the other guy said you can edit files to trick the phone into thinking it was the original one
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alainater said:
Well I saw on another thread that like the other guy said you can edit files to trick the phone into thinking it was the original one
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Well I'm personally not familiar with it. Though I still don't recommend it if you don't know what you are doing because you will corrupt the backup and could brick the phone.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728266
go down to the third post! I think it would work
alainater said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728266
go down to the third post! I think it would work
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I still wouldn't do that. The evo, unlike the hero, has wimax, and if you overwrite the wimax radios, you will NEVER get them back.
alainater said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728266
go down to the third post! I think it would work
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Well if that's the case, that should work, just have to be sure to get the new device id exactly right. Though I still think he will run into problems, maybe force closes when restoring the system portion.
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sitlet said:
I still wouldn't do that. The evo, unlike the hero, has wimax, and if you overwrite the wimax radios, you will NEVER get them back.
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well if I backup with armon ra the I can choose to not to backup Wimax
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I would suggest installing clockwork mod, making a nandroid of your current setup and downloading titanium backup, backing up your apps plus data. Copy the backup data to your computer. Once you get your new phone, root it, install clockwork mod again and MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP of your stock evo. This is very important. If you somehow lose your wimax keys, or mess something critical up, this will allow you to get those keys back. Now, restore your nandroid from your previous phone, and restore your apps + data.
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Earthshine0 said:
I would suggest installing clockwork mod, making a nandroid of your current setup and downloading titanium backup, backing up your apps plus data. Copy the backup data to your computer. Once you get your new phone, root it, install clockwork mod again and MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP of your stock evo. This is very important. If you somehow lose your wimax keys, or mess something critical up, this will allow you to get those keys back. Now, restore your nandroid from your previous phone, and restore your apps + data.
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Ok that makes sense but if I make a nandroid why would I need titanium?
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You should really buy an Otter Box case and you wouldn't really be having this problem. But to answer you question, yes the last response was correct. As long as you store the backup on your computer then you can put that copy on your new cell.
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Neptune2633 said:
You should really buy an Otter Box case and you wouldn't really be having this problem. But to answer you question, yes the last response was correct. As long as you store the backup on your computer then you can put that copy on your new cell.
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HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA funny you say that cause I have one! I don't use it cause I have an extended battery so I can't use it...
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alainater said:
Ok that makes sense but if I make a nandroid why would I need titanium?
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Because apps won't restore properly.
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Because apps won't restore properly.
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OK well actually thinking about it now I might just do a clean install and use titanium to restore some apps
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Sounds good to me, the only reason I would use nandroid is if you have a highly modified phone (custom rom and/or kernel, themes, etc).
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Earthshine0 said:
Sounds good to me, the only reason I would use nandroid is if you have a highly modified phone (custom rom and/or kernel, themes, etc).
If I or someone else helped you, tap the thanks button.
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You bet I'll thank you once I get on my computer haha
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alainater said:
well if I backup with armon ra the I can choose to not to backup Wimax
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Well if you used clockwork, you can manually go into the folder and remove the wimax from the backup.

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