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Hi !
I'm very happy with my Hero, but im kinda tired that HTC hasn't released atleast a 1.6 ROM yet.
Im thinking of flashing a 2.x ROM, but which is the most stable? I use my phone at work, so can't go around and reboot it constantly. Also Exchange mail is a must!
Any tips? (looking at kagu/ckdroid)
CKDroid works great! I find it most stable.
this may be a little early to make the claim of stability but i have been using AOSP 2.1 r1 by jnwhiteh all day, and it has been very stable.
i was using kagudroid before this.
warsng said:
this may be a little early to make the claim of stability but i have been using AOSP 2.1 r1 by jnwhiteh all day, and it has been very stable.
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CKDroid is based on it
Why don't you try MoDaCo custom roms? They are android 1.5 but heavely optimised, they're faster then any 2.x rom i've tried.
I'd say CKDroid is the fastest of the 2.X ROMs. And as far as I've tested it up against MoDaCo when it comes to speed, they are quite equal.
Ok, i'll try CKDroid.
I can't seem to see a complete flash guide. Can someone link me?
Is there indeed an offical 2.1 rom coming at some point?
ProfessorAsian said:
Is there indeed an offical 2.1 rom coming at some point?
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Around mid-Feb.
culturelol said:
Ok, i'll try CKDroid.
I can't seem to see a complete flash guide. Can someone link me?
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Just written
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622228
KaguDroid 1.1 by LoxDev is amazing. Fast and stable. Really nice!!
what about hero2.1 v1.8?( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592596)
i want to try a 2.1 rom with sense and i read that this is the most stable...it's true? what about the hero/espresso hybrid?
I find this one the best Sense ROM by far - full albums / camera / bluetooth etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613746
Well
I tried MoDaCo 3.1 hours after getting my hero, and about the same length of time later I removed it, it was horrible and I used to get crashes of the "system" process and had to reboot, happened 5-10 times in fewer hours so i switched straight back to a rooted version of the original Hero generic latest ROM.
I might consider givng another senseUI 2.1 option a try before i make my final judgement, but that's just my experience with the MoDaCo one so far.
has anyone tried the new VILLAIN 1.0??? it seems to be almost perfect! i'm gonna try it tomorrow...if anyone has already tried it please tell me how it works!
magokh said:
has anyone tried the new VILLAIN 1.0??? it seems to be almost perfect! i'm gonna try it tomorrow...if anyone has already tried it please tell me how it works!
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Running very nicely here, its just missing the htc mail program so no exchange support and a couple of problems with the htc weather program not liking other locations
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Running very nicely here, its just missing the htc mail program so no exchange support and a couple of problems with the htc weather program not liking other locations
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Yeh I just looked at that, and the exchange and lack of HTC keyboard are the only two things keeping me from flashing to it just yet. (I'm a perfectionist, so it's gotta be perfect before I'll even consider it.)
yes i read those problems...but can be resolved easily...so, when the cook will release the next version, i'll flash instantly! goodnight
I suggest KaguDroid 1.1 or later, or AOSP 2.1-r2 or later, if you can handle a vanilla (no sense ui).
Villain has Sense; which is nice because of Facebook contact sync. All other parts of Sense can be imitated by apps (like the clock/weather can be done by beautiful widgets). There are some other issues with Network Location and there is no included HTC or Android music widget in Villain. Although I prefer the HTC home-screen, I also prefer the Android lock-screen.
KaguDroid includes voice input from the keyboard, so you can use dictation to enter text into a field in ANY app.
Villain doesn't provide the HTC IME keyboard, or voice input (as of today).
Market works without using Market Enabler, for Rogers (Canada) in Kagu/AOSP. SMS incoming timestamps are correct without using SMSfixtimes in Kagu/AOSP.
As far as stability is concerned, I haven't really had issues with any of Villain/Kagu1.1/AOSP2.1-r2
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I suggest KaguDroid 1.1 or later, or AOSP 2.1-r2 or later, if you can handle a vanilla (no sense ui).
Villain has Sense; which is nice because of Facebook contact sync. All other parts of Sense can be imitated by apps (like the clock/weather can be done by beautiful widgets). There are some other issues with Network Location and there is no included HTC or Android music widget in Villain. Although I prefer the HTC home-screen, I also prefer the Android lock-screen.
KaguDroid includes voice input from the keyboard, so you can use dictation to enter text into a field in ANY app.
Villain doesn't provide the HTC IME keyboard, or voice input (as of today).
Market works without using Market Enabler, for Rogers (Canada) in Kagu/AOSP. SMS incoming timestamps are correct without using SMSfixtimes in Kagu/AOSP.
As far as stability is concerned, I haven't really had issues with any of Villain/Kagu1.1/AOSP2.1-r2
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definetely kagudroid..stable and full market!
Hi all!
Basically....iv used mainly sense roms...tried a few and im with leedroid at the moment...seems very stable and quick and i like the htc goodies....mainly the htc phone, messaging, music and gallery.
Iv also tried CyanogenMod but i didnt get on with it without the sense goodies.
Is there good alternatives for the htc stuff? or did i not give non-sense android a chance? I'm thinking of doing a full wipe and going to opendesire.
What are the advantages in your opinions between sense and non-sense roms???
Advice much appreciated!
djs_90 said:
Hi all!
Basically....iv used mainly sense roms...tried a few and im with leedroid at the moment...seems very stable and quick and i like the htc goodies....mainly the htc phone, messaging, music and gallery.
Iv also tried CyanogenMod but i didnt get on with it without the sense goodies.
Is there good alternatives for the htc stuff? or did i not give non-sense android a chance? I'm thinking of doing a full wipe and going to opendesire.
What are the advantages in your opinions between sense and non-sense roms???
Advice much appreciated!
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Guess you got your Desire because of Sense, or you could buy a N1
I like HTC stuff, though a UI revamp is likely planned for Gingerbread, so you still shouldn't drop stock Android off yet.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
For me the biggest disadvantage to non-sense roms is the lack of a decent T9 dialler (where you press the number buttons to substitute for letters and it filters your contacts). There is the Dialler One app available but it's nowhere near as good as the Sense one.
If the Sense dialler could be put into a vanilla rom then I would probably be happy.
Using Defrost at the moment.
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For me the biggest disadvantage to non-sense roms is the lack of a decent T9 dialler (where you press the number buttons to substitute for letters and it filters your contacts). There is the Dialler One app available but it's nowhere near as good as the Sense one.
If the Sense dialler could be put into a vanilla rom then I would probably be happy.
Using Defrost at the moment.
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Yeh i agree...i use that feature all the time!
K900 said:
Guess you got your Desire because of Sense, or you could buy a N1
I like HTC stuff, though a UI revamp is likely planned for Gingerbread, so you still shouldn't drop stock Android off yet.
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Yeh that is true i surpose
mshaw03 said:
For me the biggest disadvantage to non-sense roms is the lack of a decent T9 dialler (where you press the number buttons to substitute for letters and it filters your contacts). There is the Dialler One app available but it's nowhere near as good as the Sense one.
If the Sense dialler could be put into a vanilla rom then I would probably be happy.
Using Defrost at the moment.
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How is defrost??
compared to cm and opendesire?
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Yeh that is true i surpose
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Though CM6 with Fancy Widget- OnOff widgets and ³ player worked fine for me. I still missed the dialer, though. If you only want some stock-ish feeling, go install ADW.Launcher
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With LeeDrOid sense rom i never used the htc clock and used switchwidget pro with launcher pro...so homescreen wise im not bothered by....its just the dialer, gallery and music mainly.
Also any facebook contact sync apps that are good for contact pictures?
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With LeeDrOid sense rom i never used the htc clock and used switchwidget pro with launcher pro...so homescreen wise im not bothered by....its just the dialer, gallery and music mainly.
Also any facebook contact sync apps that are good for contact pictures?
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Facebook contact sync is built in to FroYo... I think, if it isn't then it is when you download the Facebook official app.
I havnt tried the facebook app since some updates, but before it didnt work too well
Sense rom = More widgets(htc widgets) , pinchout to select home screens , good dialer.
Non sense rom = More free ram , no htc widgets , no htc sync.
But both of them good with Desire,because Desire is superb
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Sense rom = More widgets(htc widgets) , pinchout to select home screens , good dialer.
Non sense rom = More free ram , no htc widgets , no htc sync.
But both of them good with Desire,because Desire is superb
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Haha i agree with that
how about battery life with the both?
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Haha i agree with that
how about battery life with the both?
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Both are good with battery life.But for my option non sense is a little better.
Like Mshaw03 HTC dialer and selecting text Copy-past on browser. It's really great on sense. But I prefer the froyo lockscreen, the gray status bar other way I prefer the froyo look and feel.
I'm on OpenDesire 4.0.4
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Graphics performance is better with non-Sense ROMs because of newer kernel...
just..try it) play Asphalt 5 on Sense ROM then on Non-Sense ROM like OpenDesire...
WITHOUT OC and smth
I love sense too much for it's keyboard, clock and alarm
And HTC sync
Sense roms have better UI, useful apps, widgets and implements but they work slower (according to Quadrant scores)
Non-sense roms work faster(again, according to Quadrant scores), have a little extended battery life. But they have some important lacks. Gallery 3D works slow imo and there is no alternative. They have very basic UI(Google have to do something about that). There is no copy/paste like HTC's. bla bla..
I love both of them but non-sen roms need some time imo.
I just tried opendesire then defrost....defrost has the cm options which i prefer over opendesire. And it feels so much quicker than sense roms.
Does anyone know if n1 cm themes would work with cm rom for desire...hense then work for defrost since it is cm basically???
I use t-mod, an Australian variant of Leedroid. I really dig it, buy I would get rid of Sense in an instant as it does little but slow down Froyo. The only advantages for me are the Data on/off widget, and the fact that it doesn't have the oj and headphone jack death bug. I love the horizontal caller id slider - the Sense up/down one kept answering or declining in my pocket until I got widget locker, which is a great workaround but you have to slide open widget locket before you get to the caller id screen. As soon as the oj death issue is fixed I will change over, no typing app is accurate enough to do without it imho, and none even have forward delete to make it even slightly tolerable.
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Oh, to elaborate, I tried Opendesire, but as I understand it, all non- sense roms have the oj death bug.
Yo, I am looking for a rom for DZ that has:
- Friendstreamlike twitter/facebook notifications
- Radio app
- good battery life
- HTC clocklike clock
- Advanced power managing(like in MIUI).
Which rom should I choose or should I stick with sense?
I think Sense would be your best bet. (I don't even like Sense, hehe)
I don't know if cyanogen can do friendstream, but it can do twitter and FB notifications. I love MIUI, but a radio app isn't developed yet. Any ROM can have the HTC clock with the Beautiful Widgets app.
Give cyanogen RC4 a shot with beautiful widgets and lose the friendstream. Your phone will probably run a lot faster too =)
You don't have to lose the friend stream. If you're going to Cyanogen, you could always install LauncherPro. It has a nice Facebook widget that's pretty much identical to friend stream except it's just Facebook.
It also has ones for Twitter and Flickr as well, they're just not all combined. If you only really use one this would be a great option for you.
Hmm, decided to stick with the Sense ROM. Another question: should I use the gingebread senserom or virtuous?
They are both great. Try each for a couple of days and see which one you miss more when you switch, perhaps. It's what I do....all the time
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sense is definitly best choice for you, i think you might like gingerbread sense a bit more. Nothing super different, but it's the little things.
If you've made your choice, let us know your findings.
Hmm, decided to stick with the GingerSense. Virtuous eats my battery, and I don't use the additional features... and gingersense is kinda better looking
Currently on InsertCoin Data++ and while it's beautiful and smooth, the battery life is quite poor (I've found...). Looking for a ROM with a far better battery life.
It needs to be sense really. I basically love the dialer/sms/mail apps. I've tried a couple of AOSP ROMS with reputedly great battery life (namely Oxygen and Redux) but I just don't like the feel of them beyond the home screen. I suppose I wouldn't mind a "stripped sense" ROM as that would keep the apps I like, would it not?
Any pointers would be appreciated.
Cheers
Not quite the answer you are after but you could always use a stripped ROM and LauncherPro which has some sense-like widgets.
The Go Contacts/SMS/Weather/Dialer etc seem like decent replacements too.
I gave up on Sense a long time ago.
I wouldn't mind that, I'd just need the actual apps too. Are they present on stripped sense roms?
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Well I use GingerVillain which is Gingerbread.
LauncherPro
Go SMS
Go Contacts
Go Dialer
Go Weather
Beautiful Widgets
..... all available on the market
you will have to purchase the full version of LauncherPro (a couple of quid) for the widgets but its well worth it.
I'll take a look at those apps now then...thanks
OK after a few minutes of fiddling about with those, they're definitely worthy replacements thanks for that.
Dyou know of any good gallery/mail*/calendar apps too?
*I currently have both ExchangeActiveSync and Gmail accounts, both in the native "Mail" app
LauncherPro has a great Calendar widget built in.
GMAIL i use the standar google app to be honest
Gallery wise I use the gallery app built into GingerVillain which i think is called 3D Gallery.
Id also recommend
BattStatt
Make Your Clock Widget
Thanks...I've just flashed Oxygen so we'll see how it goes
Is it possible to get the Sense Keyboard dyou know?
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Thanks...I've just flashed Oxygen so we'll see how it goes
Is it possible to get the Sense Keyboard dyou know?
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hmmm. you may be able to download it somewhere but the Gingerbread Keyboard is decent enough.
'Go' also do a keyboard that you can skin but i will admit im not keen on that one
K. Thanks for your help
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K. Thanks for your help
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no probs. Have fun Flashing
hi
I have a 2 year old DHD and have been using stock ROM for all these days for office use. I do not play games on mobile or install many apps. So I am kind of used to the Sense layout and design which in itself is quite neat. But having used it for so long, i have rooted and started trying various ROMs available here. Is there a ROM that satisfies all these?
My daily requirements.
1. Neat dialer with perfect T9 option
2. Exchange mail with lot of search options
3. Fast and meaty key board
4. SMS to email option (like in Blackberry)
5. Speaker on and off while talking
6. Stock market widget
7. Weather
8. At least one day battery life
9. Auto screen rotation in camera, gallery etc
10. Full screen video
11. Shortcuts on home screen
12. Hotspot
13. Bluetooth
So these are some of my most used options on DHD. While some of the ROMs have full functionality, few options are missing. Since my battery is already old, I am not complaining about battery life.
Have used CM 7.2, JellyTime R29, CodefireX 4.2.1, Sabsa Prime 10, Venom DHD till now. Every rom has some quirks.
CM 7.2 stable- Best ROM of all. Except for the poor exchange mail. There is no option to search mails. When i click the search option, nothing happens. Is this a bug or this functionality is missing in CM 7.2? Can we flash JB Exchange mail APK over 7.2? What about CM 7.2 nightlies? What is the reason for CM continuing work on 2.3.7 when rest of the world is already moving on to bigger things?
If this exchange mail issue is solved, then I am going to use CM as my daily driver. Please suggest.
Seeing that you're used to sense, I'll recommend Blackout ICS, it is sense 3.6. Fast and stable, and I don't think there are any issues too
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Thanks. Will try Blackout shortly. But in ICS ROMs, stock widget is missing. Its there in Htc sense 3 but missing in sense 4.
Can I flash new jb mail apk over cm 7.2? Pls let me know.
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Vote for Venom
Venom DHD is working the best for me right now. I havent run accross anything not working and battery life is middle of the road.
I keep trying each of the jellys but they're just not all there. They work pretty well, but miss some important feature like, mute or BT. Once they get those nailed down, I'll seriously consider going that route.
You can't install HTC apps without having sense built in to the rom. Try the last two suggestions, you'll like one of them.
Btw, I used k9 email for my 3 work email accounts, it's better than stock plus it's easier to backup and restore.
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I'll second blackout ICS. I find that sense 4.1 is way too heavy for the DHD. Sense 3.6 is a lot lighter and faster, you'll have less app force closes and annoying freezes due to not having enough memory. I personally like Nikhil's ICS, which is sense 4a. It's fast, but sense 4a has a lot of the stock widgets removed for lightness (the HTC One V (the original phone the ROM is based on) has even less RAM than us)).
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I'll second blackout ICS. I find that sense 4.1 is way too heavy for the DHD. Sense 3.6 is a lot lighter and faster, you'll have less app force closes and annoying freezes due to not having enough memory. I personally like Nikhil's ICS, which is sense 4a. It's fast, but sense 4a has a lot of the stock widgets removed for lightness (the HTC One V (the original phone the ROM is based on) has even less RAM than us)).
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thanks for the suggestion. Though I have not tried Blackout, have tried ICS via Sabsa Prime. Didnt like it completely. Now I am currently using Codefirex 4.2.1 and found it adequate for my use. I fell in love with native exchange mail and gmail UI. I have tried Touchdown, K-9 mail etc but they have very poor UI. Just deleted them with in few hours of usage.
Why nobody is answering my question on possibility of flashing JB mail APK on CM 7.2. In my view CM 7.2 is the most well developed custom rom for Ace. Sad to see that CM is no longer working on CM10.
I tried Sabsa Prime, Blackout, Sabsa Bliss and the others. Sense 4 is not suits me, I don't know why. I used Blackout 1 or 2 months but it wasn't stable for me. Then I gave a chance to S.Bliss and I don't think to change anymore. Sabsa Bliss is stable and fast. I don't have any idea about flashing JB mail APK on CM 7.2