Hi !
I'm very happy with my Hero, but im kinda tired that HTC hasn't released atleast a 1.6 ROM yet.
Im thinking of flashing a 2.x ROM, but which is the most stable? I use my phone at work, so can't go around and reboot it constantly. Also Exchange mail is a must!
Any tips? (looking at kagu/ckdroid)
CKDroid works great! I find it most stable.
this may be a little early to make the claim of stability but i have been using AOSP 2.1 r1 by jnwhiteh all day, and it has been very stable.
i was using kagudroid before this.
warsng said:
this may be a little early to make the claim of stability but i have been using AOSP 2.1 r1 by jnwhiteh all day, and it has been very stable.
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CKDroid is based on it
Why don't you try MoDaCo custom roms? They are android 1.5 but heavely optimised, they're faster then any 2.x rom i've tried.
I'd say CKDroid is the fastest of the 2.X ROMs. And as far as I've tested it up against MoDaCo when it comes to speed, they are quite equal.
Ok, i'll try CKDroid.
I can't seem to see a complete flash guide. Can someone link me?
Is there indeed an offical 2.1 rom coming at some point?
ProfessorAsian said:
Is there indeed an offical 2.1 rom coming at some point?
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Around mid-Feb.
culturelol said:
Ok, i'll try CKDroid.
I can't seem to see a complete flash guide. Can someone link me?
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Just written
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622228
KaguDroid 1.1 by LoxDev is amazing. Fast and stable. Really nice!!
what about hero2.1 v1.8?( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592596)
i want to try a 2.1 rom with sense and i read that this is the most stable...it's true? what about the hero/espresso hybrid?
I find this one the best Sense ROM by far - full albums / camera / bluetooth etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613746
Well
I tried MoDaCo 3.1 hours after getting my hero, and about the same length of time later I removed it, it was horrible and I used to get crashes of the "system" process and had to reboot, happened 5-10 times in fewer hours so i switched straight back to a rooted version of the original Hero generic latest ROM.
I might consider givng another senseUI 2.1 option a try before i make my final judgement, but that's just my experience with the MoDaCo one so far.
has anyone tried the new VILLAIN 1.0??? it seems to be almost perfect! i'm gonna try it tomorrow...if anyone has already tried it please tell me how it works!
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has anyone tried the new VILLAIN 1.0??? it seems to be almost perfect! i'm gonna try it tomorrow...if anyone has already tried it please tell me how it works!
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Running very nicely here, its just missing the htc mail program so no exchange support and a couple of problems with the htc weather program not liking other locations
MrYiff said:
Running very nicely here, its just missing the htc mail program so no exchange support and a couple of problems with the htc weather program not liking other locations
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Yeh I just looked at that, and the exchange and lack of HTC keyboard are the only two things keeping me from flashing to it just yet. (I'm a perfectionist, so it's gotta be perfect before I'll even consider it.)
yes i read those problems...but can be resolved easily...so, when the cook will release the next version, i'll flash instantly! goodnight
I suggest KaguDroid 1.1 or later, or AOSP 2.1-r2 or later, if you can handle a vanilla (no sense ui).
Villain has Sense; which is nice because of Facebook contact sync. All other parts of Sense can be imitated by apps (like the clock/weather can be done by beautiful widgets). There are some other issues with Network Location and there is no included HTC or Android music widget in Villain. Although I prefer the HTC home-screen, I also prefer the Android lock-screen.
KaguDroid includes voice input from the keyboard, so you can use dictation to enter text into a field in ANY app.
Villain doesn't provide the HTC IME keyboard, or voice input (as of today).
Market works without using Market Enabler, for Rogers (Canada) in Kagu/AOSP. SMS incoming timestamps are correct without using SMSfixtimes in Kagu/AOSP.
As far as stability is concerned, I haven't really had issues with any of Villain/Kagu1.1/AOSP2.1-r2
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I suggest KaguDroid 1.1 or later, or AOSP 2.1-r2 or later, if you can handle a vanilla (no sense ui).
Villain has Sense; which is nice because of Facebook contact sync. All other parts of Sense can be imitated by apps (like the clock/weather can be done by beautiful widgets). There are some other issues with Network Location and there is no included HTC or Android music widget in Villain. Although I prefer the HTC home-screen, I also prefer the Android lock-screen.
KaguDroid includes voice input from the keyboard, so you can use dictation to enter text into a field in ANY app.
Villain doesn't provide the HTC IME keyboard, or voice input (as of today).
Market works without using Market Enabler, for Rogers (Canada) in Kagu/AOSP. SMS incoming timestamps are correct without using SMSfixtimes in Kagu/AOSP.
As far as stability is concerned, I haven't really had issues with any of Villain/Kagu1.1/AOSP2.1-r2
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definetely kagudroid..stable and full market!
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After having used my Hero for 1 week now, I grew tired of the sense UI.
I do not need the HTC widgets, or the keyboard/ custom contact lists or 7 homescreens.
That is why I want to run the original vanilla 1.6/donut on my HTC Hero.
I don't want any custom roms, because I trust that Google is able to make the OS fast as it is. Plus I hate custom hacks and things I don't know about which somebody put in.
So can anyone give instructions on how to do this?
(Plus will the camera, buttons, lights still work?)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567672
You could however just start using the standard Android interface instead of Sense and that way skip all the HTC apps.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567672
You could however just start using the standard Android interface instead of Sense and that way skip all the HTC apps.
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Thanks! I could not find that topic through the search (came up with people who want updated 1.6 on Sense UI however).
I Understood that I can use the standard interface, which I am doing at the moment. This only works for the homescreen though. The colors, and contact lists are still hero (spammed with flckr twitter, facebook, etc) Also the keyboards are still hero this way.
I have a feeling it is still in the memory, because my friends G1 (1.5) seems to run faster, even though the specs are the same (save for 7200/7201 cpu)
Bear in mind that it's quite unlikely that you'll be able to get everything up and running on Donut, as it really requires the kernel source for Hero to be released. I'm not saying that it's impossible, as a lot of good work has already been completed, but without the kernel source it is a good order of magnitude harder!
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Dave
Sorry, I cannot seem to change the title.
I would also be happy with Vanilla 1.5 on my Hero, as I don't need the features. It is to my understanding that the HTC Magic is running 1.5 android, without the Sense UI. I am currently searching if somebody successfully ported 1.5 vanilla to the hero.
(with successfully I mean with everything working).
I would even be content if I can use my hero firmware, while restoring the original google apps, contact list, keyboard, homescreen, lockscreen etc.
so a htc 1.5 rom with turned-off sense is not good enough for you? might become difficult then, for two obvious reasons:
1. there is no official rom for hero without sense ui (why would they, they spend a lot of time and effort to create this great ui)
2. there is no inofficial rom for hero without sense ui (why would they, their goal is to pack MORE features in the custom builds...)
I have to agree with the thread starter, I'd love the Magic ROM looks, white taskbar and all on my Hero hardware... I'd finally have a working IMAP client as well (using K-9 now since HTC doesn't know how to make a usable app...).
//Nik
I understand, and respect, that a lot of users would prefer the Sense UI on their hardware.
But I want to have the OS as clean as possible.
example:
http://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/android-g1-6-0.jpg
http://www.openintents.org/en/sites/default/files/mediaplaybackactivity1.png
I prefer that to the hero sense UI music player interface.
So maybe somebody with modding experience could help ?
We can use the Hero Sense UI rom, and 'mod' the default android features back. Would that be an option?
It works for the homescreen already, maybe it works also for the other features.
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I understand, and respect, that a lot of users would prefer the Sense UI on their hardware.
But I want to have the OS as clean as possible.
example:
http://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/android-g1-6-0.jpg
http://www.openintents.org/en/sites/default/files/mediaplaybackactivity1.png
I prefer that to the hero sense UI music player interface.
So maybe somebody with modding experience could help ?
We can use the Hero Sense UI rom, and 'mod' the default android features back. Would that be an option?
It works for the homescreen already, maybe it works also for the other features.
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best option, wait for HTC to wake up and provide us with the kernel source, then build a fresh android with that....
complain to HTC that they are LATE with providing the sources......
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best option, wait for HTC to wake up and provide us with the kernel source, then build a fresh android with that....
complain to HTC that they are LATE with providing the sources......
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Thanks for this information. I would like that option, to contact them and complain.
It would only be useful however, if it worked in the past: ie complaining and then getting something done by htc
Check if this might be what you want to accomplish:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...if-you-wanted-to-get-rid-of-rosie-completely/
I'd really, really, really recommend a backup of everything first though. Or simply solve it by renaming the files from something.apk to something.apk.old or similar. That way the apps won't launch and you should be pretty close to vanilla android
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Check if this might be what you want to accomplish:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...if-you-wanted-to-get-rid-of-rosie-completely/
I'd really, really, really recommend a backup of everything first though. Or simply solve it by renaming the files from something.apk to something.apk.old or similar. That way the apps won't launch and you should be pretty close to vanilla android
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Thanks for the help!
I saw the link, but this post was discouraging to say the least:
http://android.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=291353&view=findpost&p=1079483
this part:
I just did this but you dont get the plain Android UI
I still have a lot of HTC apps left on my phone:
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I will try it tomorrow however, and I'll make a backup beforehand.
If the calendar, dialer, contact list, music player, and browser turn back into 'regular android', i would be a very happy Hero owner
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If the calendar, dialer, contact list, music player, and browser turn back into 'regular android', i would be a very happy Hero owner
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The calendar, music player and browser can be turned back: I have the regular ones on my Hero.
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The calendar, music player and browser can be turned back: I have the regular ones on my Hero.
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That is good news!
Did you also use this method: "root", then input all the commands as suggested by MoDaCo?
Wasn't there something like 'Rosie remover' for the hero? A program / process that patched / modified your running Hero to remove all / most of the HTC stuff from the current ROM.
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Wasn't there something like 'Rosie remover' for the hero? A program / process that patched / modified your running Hero to remove all / most of the HTC stuff from the current ROM.
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Yes,
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...m/291477/13-08-1-0-modaco-hero-rosie-remover/
But it did not remove the htc apps fully
I know this thread is old, but this is exactly what the poster was looking for:
(add the h-t-t-p) forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=607865
Vanilla 1.5 minus the HTC bloat. I installed it this weekend and it works very well. I cant post a link as a new poster. Sorry!
Hello,
Having used lox devs dev Eclair AOSP ROM I've realised how lacking the Hero is in its standard form - general speed of use and just the way the system feels.
In short I love using 2.0 with none of the HTC bloatware, its a shame as I don't think the ROM devs think there is much call for this - Hopefully in this thread everyone who agrees will shout up.
Obviously the dev one has its issues - sync, random crashes on phone function, etc, but I'm happy to work with it if I know there is development coming.
It would be great for one of the devs to take the project on board, knowing there is community support for this. I'm sure I'm not the only person who feels this way.
Unfortunately I'm no way programmingly minded and struggle with linux at the best of times, never mind thinking about coding, but I'd donate/support/playtest any work in progress clean android *latest version* ROM for the Hero.
Sorry...subtract 1 No. I am not an android Dev..but have been drinking Leffe
anybody got anything to add to this?
i will request Lox_Dev to update this rom when he gets some free time as i know he is working hard to get Eclair 2.1 done. I and a friend of mine is using 2.0 AOSP for last 5 days and none of us is complaining with basic features. all look good.
just 2-3 things need to be fixed.
* cant set own wallpaper as album/gallery app isnt there.
* bluetooth pairs but cant send/receive files
* camera works upto 3 megapixel.
otherwise i dont find any major problem with AOSP 2.0. i dint face a single hang in 5 days and neither did my friend.
Well, first off all. The current 2.0 / 2.1 builds all run very laggy and crappy. It is as if the video drivers aren't using any acceleration at all or something.
In Lox's 2.0 clean build (which I've used for the past few days) every bit of animation except the lockscreen goes laggy. Scrolling through the menu, opening the menu, opening the notifications... it never goes as smooth as on the 1.5 based ROMS.
I'm in no way complaining, don't get me wrong. I'm very interested in using a stock android experience but so far nothing is working good yet. The 1.6 based tries don't support all the hardware, and the 2.0 / 2.1 based ROMs aren't up to speed.
This is more than understandable ofcourse. The 2.0 / 2.1 based ROMS are based on leaked alpha / beta work which just isn't ready yet, and 1.6 differs too much from the stock android ROM to get all the hardware working OK.
So my hope is that when HTC releases their 2.0 / 2.1 official ROM, we can use it to make a clean vanilla Android 2.x experience which runs as snappy as our current HTC 1.5 versions, and still with all the hardware working OK. Maybe even with a guide how to 'backup' or transfer the googlebits from the official 2.x ROM.
A clean 2.x ROM, but with the googlebits, and with the HTC music player + album + camera + browser... now that would be awesome.
Starting a thread like this isn't really much use right now, since we only have buggy laggy 2.x bits from a leaked ROM to get stuff working.
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A clean 2.x ROM, but with the googlebits, and with the HTC music player + album + camera + browser... now that would be awesome.
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Ha, ridiculous. Seriously I don't get people's issue with Sense UI, if you don't want it fine.. But deal with the fact that you're losing HTC apps as well.
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But deal with the fact that you're losing HTC apps as well.
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omg how am I ever gonna live without a laggy browser, calendar, contact list or sms application?
It would be the best thing ever, IMO.
And nobody needs to be offended, those who want sense UI can just use that
Exactly! So stop flooding Hero (HTC) ROM threads with useless crap about wanting a ROM minus Rosie/Sense UI, E2K you've been the worst offender?!?!
You must be happy now that a almost fully functional AOSP ROM's in the wild!
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Exactly! So stop flooding Hero (HTC) ROM threads with useless crap about wanting a ROM minus Rosie/Sense UI, E2K you've been the worst offender?!?!
You must be happy now that a almost fully functional AOSP ROM's in the wild!
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Happy?? I am more happy than ever! (regarding the hero)
Also very thankful that the developers got their sh*t together and are pumping out roms like real pro's.
THe devs should be called "hero" not this 2007 pos A7200 cellphone
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Ha, ridiculous. Seriously I don't get people's issue with Sense UI, if you don't want it fine.. But deal with the fact that you're losing HTC apps as well.
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wtf is wrong with stating what would be a nice combo in my opinion? I even started by saying that for now there should be no hope and 'just requesting it to the devs' right now is bonkers. When a good HTC 2.x ROM comes along the devs have something to play with, until then this thread was useless... and still you gonna call that ridiculous? Your even saying that to a user who has tried a vanilla ROM for the whole of 30 hours before running back to my nandroid backup with MCR on it.
Go troll somewhere else please, or at least read the posts carefully and whole you're going to attack.
Hi all!
As per topic, actually.
I hope this is the right section to ask for this, as I want to make it specific for the Desire ROMs and not all the ROMs with Sense or No Sense.
I plan on getting an HTC Desire and having a custom ROM right away (that is, after going through all the required process of rooting etc.).
My question is the following:
What should I ask myself when choosing between a Sense and No Sense ROM(other than the UI experience)?
While doing a research through the forum I found some answers, however nothing was too informative. E.g. I found out that if one wants to play games in a custom ROM he should go for a No Sense ROM.
Is it because Sense ROM affects the performance or is it because of the way its settings are that does not interact with games well.
Does this happen to other kinds of applications as well?
Is there anything else that one needs to keep in mind when chosing for a ROM when it comes to Sense or No Sense?
Why go for Sense and why for No Sense?
I realize this is too much to ask, but as I searched through the forum and did not find anything specific, I believe that this will be helpful information for Desire newbies like me.
Thank you!
This may not answer your question in the depth you asked but from my own experience after using roms with and without sense I prefer the ones with sense.
Did not find any appreciable difference in speed but prefered sense roms from a purely aesthtic point of view.
Best idea is to get the phone and try different roms to see what you like. There are so many roms and everybody has their favourite that you will not get a definative answer.
The fun part is, once you are rooted you can test all ROMs and see which work best for you.
You can either spend hours trying to find an answer to this particular question or you can just try a couple of them and see what works best for you.
Sense comes with a couple of wonderful apps, which you lose (like the FM-radio) when you use a non-Sense ROM.
I don't need them per se, so I am currently on WhiteXperience, which is non-sense.
This ROM is extremely fast with low battery usage, which makes it great for playing games.
New ROMs come out every day and they get better and better each day.
A Thread with a question I also want to know since several weeks
If I get a no Sense ROM do I lose all HTC specific programs.
Widgets, ok, no issue. I don't use them either. Use Launcher Pro.
But programs, especially the mail client, how's that? Do I have to search a new one from the Market? I don't think there is one available as powerful as the HTC one.
I prefer using the sense roms cause I get the sense dialer which I much prefer over the stock Android dialer, including the contacts manager. However in using adw launcher as it feels much faster than the sense interface
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E.g. I found out that if one wants to play games in a custom ROM he should go for a No Sense ROM.
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I've not heard that one before! I've no problems playing games with a Sense ROM.
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Dave
I love sense and can't do without it now. Sense-less roms feel really empty and boring to me now.
Doesn't really answer your question, but there are a couple ROMs that have the UI portion of sense (i believe its called rosie) removed and then had the dialer/contacts/etc ported to work with stock or alternate launchers. Iirc Cyanogen is one like this... might help you out going that route too..
As to the actual question.. I have noticed that non-sense roms do seem to be a noticeably faster, but its usually cause most are highly tweaked for increased performance and usually include a2sd+. A lot of the sense roms are also tweaked as well, but usually include the froyo a2sd, which doesn't seem to be as much of a performance boost. Onto of which most of the tweaked to the sense based roms are for UI improvements, themes, etc. And not as hardcore performance based...
Just my 2 cents... IMHO... Take it as you will
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I love sense and can't do without it now. Sense-less roms feel really empty and boring to me now.
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I had a Motorola Milestone previously so I'm used to the stock Android.. if you want something with a little more umph, I really recommend LauncherPro (and LP Plus). My fav launcher by far!
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Doesn't really answer your question, but there are a couple ROMs that have the UI portion of sense (i believe its called rosie) removed and then had the dialer/contacts/etc ported to work with stock or alternate launchers. Iirc Cyanogen is one like this... might help you out going that route too..
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Just an fyi, but CyanogenMod is most assuredly *nothing* like this.
CyanogenMod is based on AOSP Android, but has been significantly customized from the original source. It owes nothing to the Sense frameworks that HTC have built into their own version of Android.
Regards,
Dave
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Just an fyi, but CyanogenMod is most assuredly *nothing* like this.
CyanogenMod is based on AOSP Android, but has been significantly customized from the original source. It owes nothing to the Sense frameworks that HTC have built into their own version of Android.
Regards,
Dave
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Sorry yeah I worded it wrong.. I should have said sense-less ROMs that have some of the sense components ported. My bad, but thanks for pointing it out.
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Thank you everyone!
I will follow your advice and try out different ROMS of both UIs (Sense and non-Sense) and see which of the two I prefer.
I will most probably start with a Sense ROM and if I stumble upon any issues I will try the other one as well.
Can you please point me towards two or three ROMs of each UI that I should definitely try out?
As for the battery efficiency of the ROM I do not worry. I have stumbled upon a couple of threads that IMHO give the best advice I could get when it comes to managing several phone settings in order to reduce power drainage.
Try this one, you can remove Sense very quickly if you want, but Sense Dialer will stay, which is better anyway.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741661
You wouldn't go wrong trying the Cyanogenmod ROM, its a non-sense one, but as stated before, very tweaked.
As regards one of the other posters, an excellent replacement for the mail app is K-9, you'll find it in the market, and its been my mail app of choice since I owned my G1, it handles IMAP very well, though I've not tried it with an exchange server, so can't comment there
Hope that helps
Tried many sense and non-sense roms. This is what I found:
HTC Sense roms have:
- Better Gallery, faster and with better zoom
- Better Dialer, faster, sleek and functional
- Better and nicer graphics for contacts
- Better camera application. Touch focus (coming to non-sense), better autofocus
- Better integrated Clipboard and selection mode
- Some other HTC applications for News, Twitter, Plurk, Facebook, Weather, etc. But these can be replaced more easily
- Some nice widgets for the above applications. They have a very nice graphic appearance
- (subjective) better memory management, I find AOSP builds too aggressive in some regards
- Nice touches like usb-plugging choice, Bluetooth FTP, etc
- Medium-high auto brightness levels
For Non-Sense roms you get:
- many kernels to choose, OC, UV, etc. At least until htc froyo source is released
- crazy high benchmarks if you OC
- much more configurability, mainly for the interface
- configurable Auto-brightness
- system wide equalizer
- some stuff I don't use (so I don't know well) like OpenVPN
- WiFi N ?
- Cyanogen Renders (in some)
- many new tweaks and releases every week
personally I really don't mind the bugs and quirks you sometimes get in AOSP roms, but I can't really live with the available alternatives to the HTC Gallery, Dialer and Camera.
Anyway these are some of the possible replacements for HTC stuff:
- Email client -> Maildroid
- Dialer -> Dialer One
- Gallery -> .... uuuuhmmmm .... errrr..... either Stock 3D Gallery or Just Pictures. They are both crap in my opinion
- Camera -> Vignette or just use stock Nexus One
- Home Launcher -> Many to choose
- News -> Feedr
- Twitter -> official client
Hey, hope there aren't a lot of threads with the same question but i didn't find one.
I will root my Desire the next days and then want to update to a custom rom.
There are some things i really need:
1. A2SD (that i can store any apps on the SD card)
2. Stable (NO bugs)
3. Sense (maybe normal sense, but might be also a port from the desire HD/Z)
4. Fast-Browser WITH Flash
5. (not so important) a Rom which is not overloaded and themed, i like the way sense looks, with all it's fonts and pictures.
Would ne great if someone could tell my what rom he would suggest for me and my needs.
Thanks
iNsertCoin HD/Z Port 1.9.5
in the video the menu seems to be a bit laggy. and the equalizer doesnt work. not that i need it but i dont like roms where something doesnt work... why would you recommend this to me?
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in the video the menu seems to be a bit laggy. and the equalizer doesnt work. not that i need it but i dont like roms where something doesnt work... why would you recommend this to me?
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One more voice for "iNsertCoin HD/Z Port". I am still using older version "1.8f".. No FCs, very nice and smooth. No lags for me.
Cool sense Cool Z v6 (i can't get V7 to work properly(its still in beta))
The HD roms from my pov, the fonts too small for my old eyes
JonnyZaggi said:
Hey, hope there aren't a lot of threads with the same question but i didn't find one.
I will root my Desire the next days and then want to update to a custom rom.
There are some things i really need:
1. A2SD (that i can store any apps on the SD card)
2. Stable (NO bugs)
3. Sense (maybe normal sense, but might be also a port from the desire HD/Z)
4. Fast-Browser WITH Flash
5. (not so important) a Rom which is not overloaded and themed, i like the way sense looks, with all it's fonts and pictures.
Would ne great if someone could tell my what rom he would suggest for me and my needs.
Thanks
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I have been using the REMIxHD and it all seems to work very well, very fluid lag free flash works standard browser so might give dolphin ago. But then again when I got the LG GT540 on 2.1 thought it was good at the time.
I am using standard leedroid 2.3d. Working great for me and fits into your criteria.
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in the video the menu seems to be a bit laggy. and the equalizer doesnt work. not that i need it but i dont like roms where something doesnt work... why would you recommend this to me?
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The phone runs an older verison of the ROM in the video, which was laggy. EQ does not work, desire lacks of hardware.
I think you should go with a 2.2 Froyo ROM such as LeeDroid and not the HD/Z ports or Gingerbread.
I used to have RCMIXHD 3.0 A2SD and had a great experience with it. Surprisingly fast.
If Sense is not a priority for you, I'd recommend Oxygen or MIUI XJ, way smoother than any Sense HD port.
I used to love sense too. Sense is lovely.
These days though I realise that it's just eye candy - free yourself and get rid of it.
Go for Redux 1.0.2 (Gingerbread) which is the fastest smoothest ROM I've used (and I've used a lot).
Launcherpro has some god damn accurate Sense style widgets built in, and you can easily mod its dock to look the same as the sense dock, so you can have the sense look and feel, whilst still being able to use all the free space that sense usually takes up
This is what I'm currently running and I'm really happy with it.
free yourself and get rid of it.
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I had a HTC hero before and used Android without sense, but the audio player for example sucks ...
i think i will stick to froyo and sense until the official gingerbread+sense comes out and someone has rooted it and created a custom rom.
Or is there anything in gingerbread that ist better than in froyo?
The phone runs an older verison of the ROM in the video, which was laggy. EQ does not work, desire lacks of hardware.
I think you should go with a 2.2 Froyo ROM such as LeeDroid and not the HD/Z ports or Gingerbread.
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Actually i think LeeDroid is overloaded. The pictures i've seen are full with custom logos, fonts, etc, etc.
I Just want the original sense/sense HD style.
What ROM would you recommend? What about the Rooted Stock Roms?
And another question: Does slowing down the CPU when screen ist of (what is possible in some ROM's) really help for more battery life? I'm not really convinced and afraid of destroying anything on my loved HTC Desire..
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Actually i think LeeDroid is overloaded. The pictures i've seen are full with custom logos, fonts, etc, etc.
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There is nothing like that in LeeDroid. i think you are getting a wallpaper
confused with the os. or maybe you saw a boot animation and got it
confused either way it is "stock" sense with tweaks and it runs very
nicely. I swear by it anyway and put it on all my friends desires.
I went to HD roms but they either start running slow or take
too long to open things like the music player, this all bugged me so i
ditched it. I got the feeling that it wasnt designed for this hardware.
It might be good by now but who knows.
With leedroid i set the cpu scaling to "smartass" so it dips when nothing
is happening or the screens off and rises back to the top when in use.
"ondemand" does the same i believe but each governor has its advantages.
This all helps battery life but i cant say how much because ive been
running it for so long i dont notice.
Leedroid also has an intergrated fix for the charge issue with sense roms where
the battery is never at 100% when you take it off charge.
Try StarBurst lite is what you are looking for,
its Stock Sense with simple D2Ext. Kernel is LeeDroid 2.3 from snq - major Battery saver.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916417
or try dsixda's Kitchen and cook your own Stock ROM with A2SD and just flash snq's Kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11740447#post11740447
Im using coolexe hd version 7,got a2sd sending apps to memory card. Batterys good,pretty much the same,but this is dependant on the amount of apps and things you get id say, The hd sense is much better in my opinion,more customization. Htc.com onboard but only some things work,lovely rom though id take that one a go,insertcoins good also,ive tried aurax also.all good.try them all mate,once you know the score test as many as u want!
A simple, stable gingerbread would be Oxygen 2.0.1.
A feature rich, fully customiseable alternative is the Cyanogen ROM (link in signature).
Choose whatever suits your needs.
I found this topic that is what I want to know. I hope it is not wrong to revive this thread.
I would like to root my Desire soon and update it to a custom rom.
There are some things i need:
1. Stable (NO MAJOR bugs -calls, sms, wi-fi, camera and basic functions should be working with no problems)
2. Android 2.3.4 or 2.3.5
3. A2SD (so i can store any apps on the SD card)
Would like to have, but not a must: Only if it works without laggs and buggs.
4. Sense 3.0 or 3.5 (for example like one from the desire HD)
I have htc Desire with official 2.3.3 Android (that I instaled from htc website) and is not rooted yet. I want to root and instal one of the newest android on my phone.
Therefore I would ask for some help, to help me choose the right one for me. I'm considering one of those:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315961
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250815
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040121
Would be great if someone could tell me which rom would you suggest for me. One of those 3 or perhaps one I misslooked.
I'm sorry for my spelling mistakes...
I'm grateful for any help or suggestion I might get.
Just installed Runnymede AIO V4.0 Special Edition, runs really smooth.
Before i switched to CM7, i used Insert coin and it was really really fast and was stable only reason i switched to CM7 was due to better themes and more settings
This is all really helpful, thanks so much to all you guys for doing this!!
My quick question on this, any of the roms that pretty much emulate a standard experience, e.g. the Starburst, plus app2sd functionality, any of these also support ad hoc wifi?
I believe there are ways of custom installing it, though are there (simple) roms out there which include it already?
Vinneeh said:
Just installed Runnymede AIO V4.0 Special Edition, runs really smooth.
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Me too i have flashed older version of the Runnymede AIO and i am very satisfied ,its stable ,fast ,no laggy ,with htc sense and a lot of updates .The best for me from rom with sense .
hi
I have a 2 year old DHD and have been using stock ROM for all these days for office use. I do not play games on mobile or install many apps. So I am kind of used to the Sense layout and design which in itself is quite neat. But having used it for so long, i have rooted and started trying various ROMs available here. Is there a ROM that satisfies all these?
My daily requirements.
1. Neat dialer with perfect T9 option
2. Exchange mail with lot of search options
3. Fast and meaty key board
4. SMS to email option (like in Blackberry)
5. Speaker on and off while talking
6. Stock market widget
7. Weather
8. At least one day battery life
9. Auto screen rotation in camera, gallery etc
10. Full screen video
11. Shortcuts on home screen
12. Hotspot
13. Bluetooth
So these are some of my most used options on DHD. While some of the ROMs have full functionality, few options are missing. Since my battery is already old, I am not complaining about battery life.
Have used CM 7.2, JellyTime R29, CodefireX 4.2.1, Sabsa Prime 10, Venom DHD till now. Every rom has some quirks.
CM 7.2 stable- Best ROM of all. Except for the poor exchange mail. There is no option to search mails. When i click the search option, nothing happens. Is this a bug or this functionality is missing in CM 7.2? Can we flash JB Exchange mail APK over 7.2? What about CM 7.2 nightlies? What is the reason for CM continuing work on 2.3.7 when rest of the world is already moving on to bigger things?
If this exchange mail issue is solved, then I am going to use CM as my daily driver. Please suggest.
Seeing that you're used to sense, I'll recommend Blackout ICS, it is sense 3.6. Fast and stable, and I don't think there are any issues too
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Thanks. Will try Blackout shortly. But in ICS ROMs, stock widget is missing. Its there in Htc sense 3 but missing in sense 4.
Can I flash new jb mail apk over cm 7.2? Pls let me know.
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Vote for Venom
Venom DHD is working the best for me right now. I havent run accross anything not working and battery life is middle of the road.
I keep trying each of the jellys but they're just not all there. They work pretty well, but miss some important feature like, mute or BT. Once they get those nailed down, I'll seriously consider going that route.
You can't install HTC apps without having sense built in to the rom. Try the last two suggestions, you'll like one of them.
Btw, I used k9 email for my 3 work email accounts, it's better than stock plus it's easier to backup and restore.
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I'll second blackout ICS. I find that sense 4.1 is way too heavy for the DHD. Sense 3.6 is a lot lighter and faster, you'll have less app force closes and annoying freezes due to not having enough memory. I personally like Nikhil's ICS, which is sense 4a. It's fast, but sense 4a has a lot of the stock widgets removed for lightness (the HTC One V (the original phone the ROM is based on) has even less RAM than us)).
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I'll second blackout ICS. I find that sense 4.1 is way too heavy for the DHD. Sense 3.6 is a lot lighter and faster, you'll have less app force closes and annoying freezes due to not having enough memory. I personally like Nikhil's ICS, which is sense 4a. It's fast, but sense 4a has a lot of the stock widgets removed for lightness (the HTC One V (the original phone the ROM is based on) has even less RAM than us)).
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thanks for the suggestion. Though I have not tried Blackout, have tried ICS via Sabsa Prime. Didnt like it completely. Now I am currently using Codefirex 4.2.1 and found it adequate for my use. I fell in love with native exchange mail and gmail UI. I have tried Touchdown, K-9 mail etc but they have very poor UI. Just deleted them with in few hours of usage.
Why nobody is answering my question on possibility of flashing JB mail APK on CM 7.2. In my view CM 7.2 is the most well developed custom rom for Ace. Sad to see that CM is no longer working on CM10.
I tried Sabsa Prime, Blackout, Sabsa Bliss and the others. Sense 4 is not suits me, I don't know why. I used Blackout 1 or 2 months but it wasn't stable for me. Then I gave a chance to S.Bliss and I don't think to change anymore. Sabsa Bliss is stable and fast. I don't have any idea about flashing JB mail APK on CM 7.2