Turning off and on should we ? - Desire General

I know it sounds silly, But are we supposed to turn androide phones off?
The reason i ask this is becuase 1# the alarm wont go off if you turn phone off so you need to enable flight mode.
And 2nd# when i turn off the phone and turn it back on it will default back to normal theme.
so just wondering really if i am right or wrong?

Turning it on and off frequently is not a good thing to do (battery will be seriously affected)....so it's best to leave it in stand-by (screen off). As for alarm clocks, you can always disable them in the clock....I'm not sure what you are trying to say about the flight mode....that's generally used to disable wireless communications and I am unaware of its effects on the alarm clock.
The phone should be able to return to your custom theme after you turn it back on....I wonder why yours does that...

As an aside, I don't think turning the phone on and off reboots everything!
I had a situation where on startup the phone was really slow and unresponsive, like something was using lots of CPU cycles. Eventually after a few minutes the phone just rebooted.
Turning it off and on did not fix this, however pulling the battery out DID fix it. So pulling the battery must reset something that a simple switch off/on doesn't.

I only turn mine off if flashing a new ROM, wanting to remove the SD card. Otherwise it's on 24/7

I know if you have a live wallpaper installed to SD that it will return to a normal default wallpaper.
Could that be the reason your theme is changing?

Evil_Cid said:
Turning it on and off frequently is not a good thing to do (battery will be seriously affected)....
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The battery won't be 'seriously affected', what does that even mean? At worst it uses 1-2% battery to reboot.
I never turn my phone off, I put it in flightmode if I know I won't have signal for any length of time, and when flashing ROMs I just mount the external storage and drag and drop to the SD. It won't do the phone any harm to turn it on and off.

Kalavere said:
The battery won't be 'seriously affected', what does that even mean? At worst it uses 1-2% battery to reboot.
I never turn my phone off, I put it in flightmode if I know I won't have signal for any length of time, and when flashing ROMs I just mount the external storage and drag and drop to the SD. It won't do the phone any harm to turn it on and off.
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Agreed.
I keep mine on 24/7 though. Only time it is off, is when a new ROM is being flashed or I remove the SD card - so, hardly ever.

I'm sure I turned my phone off once (or maybe it was my old phone) and the alarm went off still... was on an aeroplane too so I secretly tried to shush it up!

I turn it off every night...have done to all my phones... cant see anything wrong in this. The phone works fine, it's off for about 7 hrs, yes I have to reset a few things here and there ... but It's fine.. sync all my google stuff in the morning .. fab .
It's always charged at work in the day , so may be the battery is running low, but as I plug it in every day .. I dont see it ...
The wifi is also on at work .

Lothaen said:
I know if you have a live wallpaper installed to SD that it will return to a normal default wallpaper.
Could that be the reason your theme is changing?
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possible. My phone does the same, when I turn it off it returns to the normal livewallpaper instead of my selected one.
My phone is also on 24/7, got no reason to turn it off. If i dont want people to call me: just turn off the sound

chrismast said:
My phone is also on 24/7, got no reason to turn it off. If i dont want people to call me: just turn off the sound
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I agree - or just ignore the person and laugh evilly while they try and call you!

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Wheel Light Killing Battery

With Android 2.1 running on HTC Fuze, the wheel light cycles as when charging under Windows Mobil. This seems to help the battery die soon. Don't seem to be any settings relative. Any others seeing this? Any solutions found?
Thanks in advance, RAR.
AT&T Fuze, WM 6.5 TAEL 5.2.23544, XDANDROID31310
It's "breathing" to le tyou know it's in a deep sleep state and not wasting battery. It's an LED bulb, so it's not using much battery at all.
Yea the battery is being drained by many other things, the "breathing" LED is certainly not one of the main contributing factors, I can guarantee you that.
The LED might pull 1-2 % battery if you use the phone for like.. A week.
Wow
I guess I believe you folks. However, that function is about as dumb as the lights on all of my electronic equipment telling me their off. Lights used to mean, "Hey, I'm on."
Cheers,
RAR
AT&T Fuze, WM 6.5 TAEL 5.2.23544, XDANDROID31310
You can disable it by deleting a line in the startup, if you don't like it.
It was debug something...
Insaneboy said:
You can disable it by deleting a line in the startup, if you don't like it.
It was debug something...
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It was to debug deep sleep. If you get the breathing lights, it's sleeping. Sorry, this project IS NOT ready for the masses, and you (real2935) are acting like the masses all by yourself. It doesn't help anybody to complain about things the devs put in place to help themselves. Hell, they could've kept this entire project to themselves and only released it when they deemed it ready - and you wouldn't be able to use it at all. Even worse, the devs could've just kept the ENTIRE project to themselves and NEVER released it. So quit whining.
Missed Oppotunities
Ah, My Dearest arrghhh, you may be young, so I will endeavor to be patient. As all of the others, your first comment was informative and taught me much. My second comment was meant to be "tongue in cheek,... that means it was a joke. Many of us who are not programmers, are still quite technically savvy. You have a great opportunity to teach without being condescending. You will chase many of the "masses" away from becoming better. I hope that is not you intention. That would be sad. Next time I will put a Happy Face so that you will know I'm kidding when I am.
Cheers, RAR
Rar,
You must realize that thinking a little breathing LED is killing your battery is well... silly. When you just stop and think before you post, no body gets hurt
Okay. Enough.
Rar, the LEDs are not killing any battery. But there should be an APK somewhere in the XDAndroid thread for a program that removes it. Though I would advise using it as it shows that your phone is using minimal power and that nothing is keeping it from sleep.
Arrrghhh. Remember, not everyone thinks the same
ok ok everybody
dont laugh on anybody and of course asking this is not silly at all. this happens when people are not sure about something, and so we ask questions.
if anybody misunderstand anybody, its fine too. as long as we get the actual meaning afterwards.
I donno how we can disable the breath light but i m pretty sure it doesnt cost battery. it might be the same if you put your battery unused for a week (in that case the power still will go down like a few percents). since android is super stable for daily use, i suggest keep the light too. just to let you know if he is sleeping or totally dead...sometimes it happens. it just turns itself off or freezes.
Well I read somewhere that you actually use the program LED Effects to change the behavior of the breathe LED... but I can't find it in my build, and my LED definitely breathes for me when it's in sleep mode!
I like having the LED, lets me know that Android is still running OK.
to me i think the breathing lead was used to know that the phone has gone to deep sleep mode and not just having the screen being black and still using full power, u put the phone to sleep and the led isnt breathing then either the phone isnt in deep sleep or it had frozen. in earlier builds there used to be alot of probems with the phone not going into deep sleep or freezing after a few hours after being in deep sleep.
i have a solution
turn the phone face down. that way you wont see it breathing
Otherwise you can modify the build.prop and comment out the line for led breathing. Haven't looked into android for awhile so cant remember which lines you need to comment/remove out.
If you use LED Effects, you can set various LED flashing modes for various events, such as deep sleep, incoming call, text, charging, etc...I agree with leaving it on, it lets you know that it is in deep sleep. Without that, you wouldn't know if you device has froze or just had the screen turned off. In that case you would have to try to turn it back on to check, when you could just see if it is 'breathing' instead. If you can't find the LED Effects .apk, I have attached it below.
chrialex said:
If you use LED Effects, you can set various LED flashing modes for various events, such as deep sleep, incoming call, text, charging, etc...I agree with leaving it on, it lets you know that it is in deep sleep. Without that, you wouldn't know if you device has froze or just had the screen turned off. In that case you would have to try to turn it back on to check, when you could just see if it is 'breathing' instead. If you can't find the LED Effects .apk, I have attached it below.
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This is in the newer XDA builds...
chrialex said:
If you use LED Effects, you can set various LED flashing modes for various events, such as deep sleep, incoming call, text, charging, etc...I agree with leaving it on, it lets you know that it is in deep sleep. Without that, you wouldn't know if you device has froze or just had the screen turned off. In that case you would have to try to turn it back on to check, when you could just see if it is 'breathing' instead. If you can't find the LED Effects .apk, I have attached it below.
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this does work

Desire and Alarms when off....

All the phones I've ever had until now have had the ability to set an alarm that will still go off if set, even if the phone is turned off. Is there a way to do it on the Desire?
Really want to be able to turn the phone off at night but have the alarm go off still.....
any thoughts please?
That's simply impossible with an Android device.
It's true, it's impossible.
If you want you could just Power Control widget to turn everything off, and flight mode on, and brightness down, to use minimum power. It uses a couple of percent overnight.
I'll give that a try then. Pity that this is my first phone not to do it
franklinvv said:
That's simply impossible with an Android device.
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Or with Windows Mobile device, iPhone OS device.
Bandare said:
I'll give that a try then. Pity that this is my first phone not to do it
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Only dumb "feature" phones can do it. I don't know of any smartphone that can do that; they work totally differently. They're essentially computers, you know.
Just put it in normal standby, and stop refreshing Facebook etc every 5 minutes.
FloatingFatMan said:
Only dumb "feature" phones can do it. I don't know of any smartphone that can do that; they work totally differently. They're essentially computers, you know.
Just put it in normal standby, and stop refreshing Facebook etc every 5 minutes.
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my battery drains a good 15% in a night on standby usually..... I have my refreshing set on manual and data off until I do check... typically once every few hours. Battery life doesn't last me a day.

My HTC bugbear

Can anyone explain to me why the alarm clock function on HTC devices will not work with the phone switched off like it does on most every other phone.
You can set the alarm etc. fine but the phone needs to be switched on in order for the alarm to go off.
Even my old Motorola had the ability to set the alarm, power the phone off and it'd still wake you up when it was supposed to?
its just the way it is. it is no way to fix it, but i guess your old phone didnt run android either
Whenn you switch off the phone, it makes sense that youre alarm is not working...
Do you use taskkillers? Jd or things like that?
No, no task killers and I understand that it obviously won't work becuase it's switched off, but if you remember on old 'normal' phones you could set the alarm, switch the phone off and the phone would 'wake' when the alarm was due.
This would be a huge battery saver for me as there are times when you're stuck in a hotel room without a charger, very little battery and the only alarm is on your phone. That's what I always used to do.
And yes, you're right, the old phones didn't have android and I LOVE my Desire, just this one thing that is slightly annoying and that I miss about smart phones.
You mean it doesn't work when you turn phone off with single click of power button? Mine does! It obviously won't work if you power down the phone as it doesn't have a hardware wake function.
Easily solved by just turning off normally or take a travel charger with you.
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He means like, just like in a PC, you can have it "off", that is similar to S5 and yet a flag somewhere has been set for it to boot up when the internal clock hits a certain time (e.g. a minute or two before the alarm is due to go off), then, it sounds the alarm.
If battery is your primary concern, do what I do-set the alarm, but put the phone on flight mode. The battery goes down by 1% overnight! Sometimes 0 %!
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List of known issues - confirmed on some phones

Can we put together a list of known issues with this phone for those of us who are thinking of switching so we can see everything in one place instead of having to sort through all the mess to find the issues and resolutions. Thanks
This list is just a copy and paste of the main points listed in the first 5 pages so far to save you some reading. Its just a summary, nothing more.
- vertical lines on some models with specific box date
- dead red pixel on some models
- some models has odd camera flash light, when powering off
- occasional errors when playing media on the sd card
- battery has stayed stuck at "100%"
- WiFi settings shows connected to the correct network but keeps scanning (Power saving mode problem.)
- lock screen locks up me sometimes
- wouldn't stay powered down while charging
- it takes quiet some time to charge up
- it's always warm even when not it use, but it gets super hot when charging
- screen lock bug
- take a pic, then tap the gallery button in the camera app, share to facebook, will not upload, says cannot locate pic. go to regular gallery, upload pic same way and it works fine.
- issue with the display staying on
- games freezing up and crashing after about 5- 10 mins of game play
- trouble with data when connected to wifi.
- wifi works but the 4g will not get internet access.
- music player other than orginal makes all kind of funny things skipping ,play not play or stock
- rebooting
this link was sent to me by jangst123 it should help us see how many people are experiencing each issue (poll link)
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo... issues Poll&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13203616807683
Results of poll:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...ults of Poll&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13203617040734
Just had my first random reboot today, other then that, I haven't had any issues. The phone is amazing
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good idea, i stickied this topic
to keep track of all the known issues
brian6685 said:
Just had my first random reboot today, other then that, I haven't had any issues. The phone is amazing
Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk
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Same here, rebooted on its own after about 2 days of up time. No other issues besides that.
so, off all the stuff i've read in the forum thus far:
the list is something like this:
- vertical lines on some models with specific box date
- dead red pixel on some models
- some models has odd camera flash light, when powering off
lags and some apps performance, or network speed stuff doesn't count
anything else missing?
minor heads up
lets keep this topic only for confirmed issues.
One thing to add- occasional errors when playing media on the sd card. I'm having a hell of a time with Doggcatcher & some music players saying that the media cannot be read.
kabuk1 said:
One thing to add- occasional errors when playing media on the sd card. I'm having a hell of a time with Doggcatcher & some music players saying that the media cannot be read.
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that's a good one
and it sounds very familiar, back in the SGS1 days, there was similar problem.
using another media player should avoid that problem
AllGamer said:
that's a good one
and it sounds very familiar, back in the SGS1 days, there was similar problem.
using another media player should avoid that problem
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Yeah it works fine with PlayerPro, but I'm still trying to find another podcatcher that I like. I'm kinda pissed that I paid almost $7 for Doggcatcher & now it barely works >:|
So far my only issue is that the battery has stayed stuck at "100%" twice now (only had the phone for a week obviously). Both times it was in the morning after the phone had charged all night, and then I take it with me for school/work. I used it for a few hours at school and it stayed at a 100% so I took it by T-mobile and they hadn't seen that before.
They did the same thing I did which was remove the battery and restart the phone. After that it read correctly (around 76% or something). Still I don't want to have to pull my battery every day after it gets a full charge. I'm going to see what it does tomorrow in the morning and go from there....anyone else have this issue?
please report that bug directly to samsung on the stickied link
Darmokk said:
So far my only issue is that the battery has stayed stuck at "100%" twice now (only had the phone for a week obviously). Both times it was in the morning after the phone had charged all night, and then I take it with me for school/work. I used it for a few hours at school and it stayed at a 100% so I took it by T-mobile and they hadn't seen that before.
They did the same thing I did which was remove the battery and restart the phone. After that it read correctly (around 76% or something). Still I don't want to have to pull my battery every day after it gets a full charge. I'm going to see what it does tomorrow in the morning and go from there....anyone else have this issue?
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I can understand that the most embarrassing thing to do in public is a battery pull. I haven't done a battery pull since my blackberry days
AllGamer said:
please report that bug directly to samsung on the stickied link
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Done!
Killbynature said:
I can understand that the most embarrassing thing to do in public is a battery pull. I haven't done a battery pull since my blackberry days
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Haha yeah I can deal with it from time to time maybe, but I don't wanna be doing every freaking morning haha
I also have the 100% battery bug. I don't have to pull the battery though, just doing a reset by power off/on works to clear it. It *is* kind of annoying though...
I have seen this as well. It happened the last two mornings after charging overnight.
I have same issue. keep showing 100% battery indicator.
Wow lots of people having isSue wiTh the 100% battery thing hopefully that getS sorteD soon.
Edit: I HATE typing on this freaking iPad sometimes!
I saw the battery stuck at 100% as well on mine. Another thing i noticed that i have the WiFi ON all the time. So while i'm in office it is connected to the WiFi and the phone sits in my pocket for about an hour or more before i actually use it (using another phone at work), so after i wanna use it and it shows the WiFi connected symbol but no connection. Go to WiFi settings and shows connected to the correct network but keeps scanning. Turn Off WiFi and turn it back ON and its running again. Although i did not noticed this issue at home. Is it that at home my phone is always on table and not in my pocket....is it something to do with my my pocket
Power saving mode problem. When activated, it turns off gps, wifi, blue tooth etc.. (Whatever you choose) at specified battery level. However, when power is recharged past the set power saving mode point it doesn't turn these features back on. So annoying.
So when fully recharged, you have to go back and manually re-enable your gps, wifi, screen brightness etc..
This seems like a software issue, do the other brand gs2's have this problem?
**Also have the 100% battery bug.
My Galaxy S II wouldn't stay powered down while charging. Everytime I turned the device off while charging it would automatically power back on. I honestly wasn't sure if that was simply the way the phone was designed (which would be odd), but sure enough at the T-Mobile store today we opened up a brand new Galaxy to see if it would remain 'off' while charging. Sure enough, it could.
Long story short, I have the 100% battery malfunction, and an "unable to charge turned off" issue. Swapping out phones at T-mobile as we speak Another GSII btw, even with these annoying issues its a great phone. I think (hope) I just got a lemon?

Is there a way to make alarm ON while phone powered OFF?

i wonder if there are a way to make alarm ON when it's powered OFF. I need this the most cuz sometimes we don't know our phone turn off while we sleeping
hinfamous said:
i wonder if there are a way to make alarm ON when it's powered OFF. I need this the most cuz sometimes we don't know our phone turn off while we sleeping
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There is. But connection to a charger is required. Try NoMoarPowah! app. You can set a custom time to boot your phone. Like 5 mins before your alarm starts.
Just charge your phone before sleep , and after it got 80-100% remove the charger , put your phone next to you , airplane mode on , the battery will last longer and the alarm will ring , and the battery is safe , you can try kilavuzcu method too if you want
anantalawliet said:
Just charge your phone before sleep , and after it got 80-100% remove the charger , put your phone next to you , airplane mode on , the battery will last longer and the alarm will ring , and the battery is safe , you can try kilavuzcu method too if you want
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Hi dude, thank's for the joke
kilavuzcu said:
There is. But connection to a charger is required. Try NoMoarPowah! app. You can set a custom time to boot your phone. Like 5 mins before your alarm starts.
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Thank for your answer, but still it need a charger to do that. But i want it to work like the old phone alarm. Maybe i can wait for the developer to make it happen.
hinfamous said:
Thank for your answer, but still it need a charger to do that. But i want it to work like the old phone alarm. Maybe i can wait for the developer to make it happen.
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I don't think there will ever be a solution which doesn't need charger. When an android phone is off, it's really off. You can't run any software if device is completely off.
But why you want to turn your phone off? You can still use an app like "Deep Sleep Battery Saver". When screen off, it turn off wifi, mobile network, other apps etc and you don't need to turn off your phone, your alarm is going to work fine and when you wake up your battery will stay at %98-96.
kilavuzcu said:
I don't think there will ever be a solution which doesn't need charger. When an android phone is off, it's really off. You can't run any software if device is completely off.
But why you want to turn your phone off? You can still use an app like "Deep Sleep Battery Saver". When screen off, it turn off wifi, mobile network, other apps etc and you don't need to turn off your phone, your alarm is going to work fine and when you wake up your battery will stay at %98-96.
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hi kilavuzcu, i'll try that. thanks

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