Can anyone explain to me why the alarm clock function on HTC devices will not work with the phone switched off like it does on most every other phone.
You can set the alarm etc. fine but the phone needs to be switched on in order for the alarm to go off.
Even my old Motorola had the ability to set the alarm, power the phone off and it'd still wake you up when it was supposed to?
its just the way it is. it is no way to fix it, but i guess your old phone didnt run android either
Whenn you switch off the phone, it makes sense that youre alarm is not working...
Do you use taskkillers? Jd or things like that?
No, no task killers and I understand that it obviously won't work becuase it's switched off, but if you remember on old 'normal' phones you could set the alarm, switch the phone off and the phone would 'wake' when the alarm was due.
This would be a huge battery saver for me as there are times when you're stuck in a hotel room without a charger, very little battery and the only alarm is on your phone. That's what I always used to do.
And yes, you're right, the old phones didn't have android and I LOVE my Desire, just this one thing that is slightly annoying and that I miss about smart phones.
You mean it doesn't work when you turn phone off with single click of power button? Mine does! It obviously won't work if you power down the phone as it doesn't have a hardware wake function.
Easily solved by just turning off normally or take a travel charger with you.
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He means like, just like in a PC, you can have it "off", that is similar to S5 and yet a flag somewhere has been set for it to boot up when the internal clock hits a certain time (e.g. a minute or two before the alarm is due to go off), then, it sounds the alarm.
If battery is your primary concern, do what I do-set the alarm, but put the phone on flight mode. The battery goes down by 1% overnight! Sometimes 0 %!
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I know it sounds silly, But are we supposed to turn androide phones off?
The reason i ask this is becuase 1# the alarm wont go off if you turn phone off so you need to enable flight mode.
And 2nd# when i turn off the phone and turn it back on it will default back to normal theme.
so just wondering really if i am right or wrong?
Turning it on and off frequently is not a good thing to do (battery will be seriously affected)....so it's best to leave it in stand-by (screen off). As for alarm clocks, you can always disable them in the clock....I'm not sure what you are trying to say about the flight mode....that's generally used to disable wireless communications and I am unaware of its effects on the alarm clock.
The phone should be able to return to your custom theme after you turn it back on....I wonder why yours does that...
As an aside, I don't think turning the phone on and off reboots everything!
I had a situation where on startup the phone was really slow and unresponsive, like something was using lots of CPU cycles. Eventually after a few minutes the phone just rebooted.
Turning it off and on did not fix this, however pulling the battery out DID fix it. So pulling the battery must reset something that a simple switch off/on doesn't.
I only turn mine off if flashing a new ROM, wanting to remove the SD card. Otherwise it's on 24/7
I know if you have a live wallpaper installed to SD that it will return to a normal default wallpaper.
Could that be the reason your theme is changing?
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Turning it on and off frequently is not a good thing to do (battery will be seriously affected)....
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The battery won't be 'seriously affected', what does that even mean? At worst it uses 1-2% battery to reboot.
I never turn my phone off, I put it in flightmode if I know I won't have signal for any length of time, and when flashing ROMs I just mount the external storage and drag and drop to the SD. It won't do the phone any harm to turn it on and off.
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The battery won't be 'seriously affected', what does that even mean? At worst it uses 1-2% battery to reboot.
I never turn my phone off, I put it in flightmode if I know I won't have signal for any length of time, and when flashing ROMs I just mount the external storage and drag and drop to the SD. It won't do the phone any harm to turn it on and off.
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Agreed.
I keep mine on 24/7 though. Only time it is off, is when a new ROM is being flashed or I remove the SD card - so, hardly ever.
I'm sure I turned my phone off once (or maybe it was my old phone) and the alarm went off still... was on an aeroplane too so I secretly tried to shush it up!
I turn it off every night...have done to all my phones... cant see anything wrong in this. The phone works fine, it's off for about 7 hrs, yes I have to reset a few things here and there ... but It's fine.. sync all my google stuff in the morning .. fab .
It's always charged at work in the day , so may be the battery is running low, but as I plug it in every day .. I dont see it ...
The wifi is also on at work .
Lothaen said:
I know if you have a live wallpaper installed to SD that it will return to a normal default wallpaper.
Could that be the reason your theme is changing?
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possible. My phone does the same, when I turn it off it returns to the normal livewallpaper instead of my selected one.
My phone is also on 24/7, got no reason to turn it off. If i dont want people to call me: just turn off the sound
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My phone is also on 24/7, got no reason to turn it off. If i dont want people to call me: just turn off the sound
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I agree - or just ignore the person and laugh evilly while they try and call you!
Quite a few smartphones out there support hibernate. HTC is amongst the manufacturers that makes it possible to completely shutdown the phone and write all memory to a file on the nand which is put back in memory when the phone is turned back on. This way it only takes a few seconds to go from off to fully functioning, practically the same thing computers can do for years. Now I wonder if this could be done with the Defy (and possibly any other Android phone for that matter). I don't know how HTC does it but I guess it's pure software as in not an integrated Android feature. And if they can do it I'm sure some of the XDA guys can do it. Or is that wishful thinking??
Well if you want to save battery, then there are certain task killers which actually closes all the tasks which are not in use but running (excluding ignore list) and this way whenever the screen is turned off, it closes those tasks, that improves the battery. If that is what you meant?
I found this on google:
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/tools/hibernate_ctp.html
No what I mean is in the event you have to shut down the phone entirely that all content in the RAM gets written to nand (or maybe sd). This way when it boots again it simply restores its RAM within seconds, effectively cutting boot time to only a few seconds instead of 40. Compare this with Windows' hibernate function for the pc.
Turns out HTC calls it Fast Boot. It's not a real hibernation function because if you put the phone to sleep with it and remove/replace the battery it would perform a normal cold boot. So it's more of a very low power sleep mode, guess more like a computer's S3 sleepstate where only the RAM stays powered while all the rest (cpu, chipset, video, audio etc) is turned off.
Sounds like a very interesting option, very curious if this would be possible on a defy.
This would be a nice feature.
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Totally pointless if you ask me. Just enable airplane mode if you want epic battery life?
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Totally pointless if you ask me. Just enable airplane mode if you want epic battery life?
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Or turn it all the way off and save even more power.
There are also plenty of 'smarter' ways to safe power, such as scheduling the handset to automatically disabling 3G overnight etc, which don't even require you to switch the handset off.
Airplane mode still leaves the cpu switched on. The purpose of that mode is to be still able to use the device without a working connection.
Say you are away from home and didn't bring the charger. Now the battery is almost dead. Then a very low power sleep mode would come in handy because it boots in only a few seconds and after a few more seconds you can turn it 'off' again. Fast and snappy, hardly using any power. And this is XDA so another extremely valid reason to have it is simply because we can. For pc's it's everyday technology so why not make it available on our pocket sized super computers?
I always disable hibernate in my PC.
Actually me too but I do use the sleep mode quite often with my laptop. Works great when you move your laptop a lot to other places but don't want long boot times. It could actually survive days in this mode on a full battery.
I have just purchased the official Galaxy SII Desktop Dock. I'm new to Android but I have switched to using Launcher Pro as my launcher and I'm wondering if there is any way to stop the device switching over to the Samsung "Desk Clock" application when it is placed in the desktop dock. Every time I hit the Home button when the device is in the Dock, the Desk Clock application comes to front, rather than the default launcher. I prefer not to use the Desk Clock application.
In the manual for the Desktop Dock it states:
"You can set whether to launch the Desk Clock application on your phone when you connect a Samsung phone to the desktop dock. For more information about the Dock settings, see your phone user manual."
I can't seem to find any reference to this. I'm hoping it's just my ignorance.
The only reference to "Dock Settings" I can find in the full user guide (from the Samsung website) doesn't say much:
Dock settings● Audio output mode: Set to use the connected dock’s speaker when your device is connected to a car or desktop dock.
And that's it... no mention of the Desk Clock
Thanks. That's exactly what I found.
There has to be some way to stop the home button from displaying this special mode when it is in the desktop dock.
Dock No-Op did the trick.
Should have spotted this before but I'm new to Android and still getting used to the fact that the Market has a lot more than I'm used to with my last phone, which was a Windows Mobile
Does that mean that it doesn't show that clock after some number of minutes of idle in the dock? Even with the brightness turned all the way down that thing is way to bright at night.
Have you tried Kaloer Clock...? It's the mutts, and you can customise it till the cows come home (inc your desired brightness....)
Great app really works and prevent to sleep the phone...the only question is: can I damage (burn out) pixels when using it whole night and every night?
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Great app really works and prevent to sleep the phone...the only question is: can I damage (burn out) pixels when using it whole night and every night?
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Which app...Kaloer Clock? You can set it to run in screensaver mode to prevent this....
To prevent what??? BTW when I woke up this morning SGS2 slept so the system still lock phone and turn off the screen even when I ticked prevent phone from sleep or something like this in kaloer settings...any suggestion???
edit: you're right!!! in screensaver mode the time is every two minutes or so changes position whoooo cant wait for dock...
Dark maps in Google Navagation??? in car dock mode
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Dock No-Op did the trick.
Should have spotted this before but I'm new to Android and still getting used to the fact that the Market has a lot more than I'm used to with my last phone, which was a Windows Mobile
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When I connect to my Car dock I get dark maps in Google Navagation???
How can I reset that to a normal light map?
I use the dock to charge the phone at night but the clock keeps coming on in the middle of the night by itself
id love to have this all the time but im really scared about burn in,
as it automatically changes position every two min is there a chance in burn in still?
treva23 said:
I use the dock to charge the phone at night but the clock keeps coming on in the middle of the night by itself
id love to have this all the time but im really scared about burn in,
as it automatically changes position every two min is there a chance in burn in still?
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....................anyone?
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....................anyone?
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You would only possibly get burn in if it were to stay put in the same position...I say possibly, because I'm sure the Sammy techies would've thought about this and tested for it because it is an obvious concern to have.
When the clock's screensaver mode kicks in though, the time moves every minute or two as you noted, so there will be zero chance of any burn in of the screen.
I use Kaloer Clock though, so I'm not sure about the standard Sammy desktop clock coming on by itself in the night...maybe it's a setting in there that makes it wake on the hour or something...don't know tbh, but it won't be doing any damage.
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....................anyone?
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Just push the sleep button and it wont come on.
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Just push the sleep button and it wont come on.
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yea i push the sleep button but through the night the phone screen wakes when fully charged, as i am sleeping this means i cant put it back to sleep, therefore clock comes on after a while and thus for the rest of the night.
but i love the feature and would have no problem with it if not for burn in.
as for Willie_Heckerslyke's comments it is logical that sammy would have tested this as feature has been put on the phone.
Will having the S2 attached to the official dock all the time when being at home affect battery life?
Feel like spamming every dock thread with this question.
I don't think that it has a big affect on the battery. But the worst thing that could possibly happen is that you'll need a new battery in a year. So i wouldn't care about that
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I see, but how come the phone shows the popup "Battery is fully charged, remove it..." .. I mean, why even show it then?
I don't own a dock but i guess its the counter part of "your phone is fully charged. Unplug it"
I'm not sure but i guess it decalibrates the battery more if you charge it longer than necessary. And maybe reduces the max capacity of the battery a tiny bit every time. But this won't stop me feom charging my phone overnight.
Btw: i do have a very unhealthy charging habit.. i always put the phone next to my pillow without airplane mode or so.. if it catches fire while charging (i read that could theoretically happen) i've got a problem too.. :-/ so i should be more worried about my health than my battery's..
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Thanks for your help and sarcasm. I will from now on, charge it during the night, get up at 4 am unplug the phone and go back to sleep. Will have a glass of water next to me in case, as you said, a fire starts and I need to cool out.
This all started yesterday morning. I had my alarm set, woke up later than I needed to with a notification on the phone that said Alarm Turned Off After 10 Minutes, telling me the alarm had gone off for 10 minutes and was automatically turned off.
I thought it was weird so I did some digging and it turned out that NONE of my sounds were working. The volume was up, silent mode was off, but I was getting nothing whatsoever from the phone speaker. Even speaker phone wasn't working. Headphones worked fine. It seemed my speaker had blown.
Well, later in the day (as I was preparing to take it back to Verizon) it just randomly starts working again. All sounds now seem fine.
So I set my alarm this morning. And this time, it didn't even go off, at all! I woke up 5 minutes after it was supposed to go off, and when I unlocked my phone, THEN the alarm started going off. It's almost like it isn't coming our of deep sleep to sound the alarm.
Are these two issues related; the sound issue yesterday and the alarm issues both days? Has anyone else experienced this? It seems to be random...sometimes I can replicate it, other times I cannot.
There's another thread about this somewhere...try a search for "alarm". It's happened to me often enough that I can't rely on my Gnex as an alarm clock...I have to use my old SGS instead. I've also had loss of sound occasionally, but a reboot always fixes it.
Wish someone would figure out a solution, it's pretty annoying to have a bug like this in the alarm. Even the cheapest, crappiest dumbphone you can buy comes with a reliable alarm app, but my expensive smartphone does not? (and yes, I've tried other alarm apps besides the stock one...they all fail to go off intermittently.)
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Thanks for the input. I use my alarm daily and this is the first time I've had this issue.
As an aside (but perhaps related issue?), my gmail app has uninstalled itself and I can't get it reinstalled. Looks like it's time for a reflash.
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Thanks for the input. I use my alarm daily and this is the first time I've had this issue.
As an aside (but perhaps related issue?), my gmail app has uninstalled itself and I can't get it reinstalled. Looks like it's time for a reflash.
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Yes I would reflash before you miss a flight or the interview to your dream job!
One thing I miss about my old blackberry is the alarm. Put it in the cradle and the time would dim, all notifications would turn off and the alarm would fire every time, every when the battery had been drained and switched off. Pity everything else sucked...
I've yet to have a problem.
Maybe you're getting SOD's (or close-to) in the middle of the night and the phone is having trouble waking itself up?
Try adjusting your governor and turn your undervolts up if they're enabled.
I am, however, fairly OCD about my alarms...
I reboot my phone before opening the alarm app and ONLY the alarm app...
Make sure the alarm is enabled...
And turn the screen off.
I've done this since my OGDroid days.
I also have the trusty DX as a backup...set 10 minutes later; just in case.
My old Nokia was running the Symbian operating system
A feature that I found interesting was the alarm that activated the phone, even though the device was turned off.
I was surprised by Galaxy W does not have this functionality, I did some research and saw that many smartphones are coming without this functionality.
I wonder if it is possible via software to enable this function W Galaxy being turned off.
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My old Nokia was running the Symbian operating system
A feature that I found interesting was the alarm that activated the phone, even though the device was turned off.
I was surprised by Galaxy W does not have this functionality, I did some research and saw that many smartphones are coming without this functionality.
I wonder if it is possible via software to enable this function W Galaxy being turned off.
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android doesn't have this feature yet. just like your regular pc, its dead as a stone when turned off.
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android doesn't have this feature yet. just like your regular pc, its dead as a stone when turned off.
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Haha~~"dead like a stone" I like your description!
I guess it is because Symbian is a relatively "light" OS compared to android. The time it takes to boot up is shorter and consume less power. Hence, let alarm clock activating the phone is faster and less power loss. If you try to keep rebooting your android system, u can see significant drop in the battery life every time.
I recommend u to use some profile scheduler apps such as Go Power master. It can set ur phone automatically run Airplane mode at night but keep ur alarm clock running. The power consumption is very low in airplane mode, almost like turning off the phone.