Despite my efforts, my DVP just won't sync. I can leave it alone for a half-hour, plugged into the wall, not running anything, but it just won't sync unless I plug it in.
I can't figure out why. I have all the exceptions enabled in my firewall, I tried disabling my firewall, and that didn't work. I even reinstalled Zune, and I've restarted my PC more times than I can remember. I don't get an error message, the wireless sync wizard takes about two seconds to run through, and nothing. No explanation, no error messages, nothing.
I'm starting to worry that this phone--a replacement--just doesn't "understand" when it's idle and supposed to sync. Has anyone else faced this problem?
I'm away from my PC right now so I can't tell you for sure, but I think there's a setting inside Zune where you have to tick off Wireless Sync. Have you already done that? (I'm only asking because you said you reinstalled Zune which probably reset your settings).
OGCF said:
I'm away from my PC right now so I can't tell you for sure, but I think there's a setting inside Zune where you have to tick off Wireless Sync. Have you already done that? (I'm only asking because you said you reinstalled Zune which probably reset your settings).
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Aside from "Wireless Sync", which you use to set it up in the first place, I don't see any options in the Zune software that deal with it.
To set up wireless sync
If you don't want to physically connect your phone to your computer every time you need to sync, you can set up your phone to automatically sync with your computer over your home Wi-Fi network.
Connect your phone to your PC using the USB cable that came with your phone.
In the Zune software, click Settings > Phone > Wireless Sync.
Follow the on-screen instructions in the Zune software.
source: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/music/sync-files-with-my-phone.aspx
i think the OGCF is referring to this.
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To set up wireless sync
If you don't want to physically connect your phone to your computer every time you need to sync, you can set up your phone to automatically sync with your computer over your home Wi-Fi network.
Connect your phone to your PC using the USB cable that came with your phone.
In the Zune software, click Settings > Phone > Wireless Sync.
Follow the on-screen instructions in the Zune software.
source: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/music/sync-files-with-my-phone.aspx
i think the OGCF is referring to this.
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In that case, I've done that a dozen times. No effect though.
It's as though my phone never idles, but I know it does, because the screen shuts off, and nothing is playing in the background.
EDIT: Maybe this is a battery issue--apparently, you need to be at at least half battery strength to initiate syncing (in addition to not touching the phone and running on the adapter). Since I haven't taken my phone out recently, the battery might need to drain, then charge back to half. Or something, I have no idea.
i know these are gonna sound like baby steps but here goes...
after doing that wireless sync setup above, enable wifi and make sure you can connect to the network fine.
connect the phone to power so that wifi stays on, and then close zune on the desktop. leave your phone for a while and see if zune on the desktop starts on it's own within 15 minutes. if it does, that means your computer and phone are communicating with each other fine.
if not, the problem could lie in either the phone, the computer, or the router. i know some routers offer wifi isolation, where devices over wifi don't see other devices. this may or may not be the issue. it could also be firewall related (not just your computer, but router as well).
these are a few things you can investigate which will help elimiate some issues. if you have another router (hopefully a different branded one), i would give that a go as well to see if this would get around the issue.
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i know these are gonna sound like baby steps but here goes...
after doing that wireless sync setup above, enable wifi and make sure you can connect to the network fine.
connect the phone to power so that wifi stays on, and then close zune on the desktop. leave your phone for a while and see if zune on the desktop starts on it's own within 15 minutes. if it does, that means your computer and phone are communicating with each other fine.
if not, the problem could lie in either the phone, the computer, or the router. i know some routers offer wifi isolation, where devices over wifi don't see other devices. this may or may not be the issue. it could also be firewall related (not just your computer, but router as well).
these are a few things you can investigate which will help elimiate some issues. if you have another router (hopefully a different branded one), i would give that a go as well to see if this would get around the issue.
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I appreciate any advice. I spent the better part of 6 hours today (thankfully, I wasn't doing anything else) trying to get this to work with Zune Tech Support before the guy gave up and told me he'd call again tomorrow.
So, closing the Zune software (not terminating it in the task manager or anything, but closing it) is instrumental to this? That could be it.
I'll try all these steps. I had no trouble getting my first DVP to sync (kind of funny, as I returned it due to crashing). I'll then go about checking the router--except I've searched around, and haven't seen any posts about ports on the router (I have an E1000, pretty typical router) anywhere, just people talking about firewall issues. I doubt it's the PC or the router, in any case, because I was able to do it previously.
EDIT: Well, leaving the Zune client closed did not change anything. I guess I'll try another router next, an old DIR-615. Of all the complaints about WP7 syncing on the internet, practically none of them mention routers, and only a few mention firewalls--and usually not Windows Firewalls. So that's mostly a dead end.
yea it most likely is, but i'd give it a try. wireless sync is awesome and i use it all the time, never connect the cable anymore, so i know how much you want it. if all else fails... try a hard reset on the phone and if that doesn't work either, return the device for another?
i know they are the worst case scenarios, but they are possibly the last two that will fix it.
you said this is a replacement device. Did the previous dvp sync over WIFI?
Sorry, but those devices seem to be really buggy.
Yeah...funny thing, as I mentioned, this phone has been surprisingly crash-free (almost a week, with one crash, and that might have just been me being impatient) compared to the first one I got. It would suck to have to replace it because the wireless sync option basically died (it did seem to be working for a time, now it's completely "given up") and get a crashier replacement (though that's somewhat unlikely).
I'll try a hard reset--no harm--and when that presumably doesn't work, I'll try another router (though that's pretty bad, since my current router was hardly cheap and it was a much needed upgrade from a 4-year-old earlier model). Then go back to pestering the Zune tech people again. And I guess I can get a replacement if neither of those work.
Additionally, I'm almost entirely certain that it doesn't require the Zune software be closed (mostly because I remember wireless syncing happening while the Zune client was still opened). In fact, it might be the other way around.
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you said this is a replacement device. Did the previous dvp sync over WIFI?
Sorry, but those devices seem to be really buggy.
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You don't know the half of it, though this wasn't actually a replacement--I got a full refund on my original one and ordered a replacement so I could start fresh on the refund. And as I mentioned, it did--though it crashed constantly, unlike this one, which doesn't crash at all.
no need to keep zune closed anymore. it was just a test to see if zune triggures or not, but as we can see it doesn't.
Well, I apparently exhausted all the options of the Zune Tech Support team--it took quite a few hours--so the only recourse is to get a replacement.
I just hope I'm not given a refurbished model--I'd rather try my luck with another return then, frankly, since this model was nice and crash-free.
sucks. guessing you also exhausted all the suggestions i gave, so yes, new phone is the best way to go. make sure on zune desktop you "forget" all the past phones before syncing (just to clear out any cobwebs).
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sucks. guessing you also exhausted all the suggestions i gave, so yes, new phone is the best way to go. make sure on zune desktop you "forget" all the past phones before syncing (just to clear out any cobwebs).
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No kidding, definitely scrub it clean and set it to forget. The Dell Tech Rep promised me a new one, so...if I don't get it, I have grounds to complain, heh.
lol definitely. let us know how it goes.
i'm not sure why you would want to replace the phone. is it really a big deal if wireless sync isn't working?
Seems like too much hassle for too little reward, but hey if you want it that badly then go for it.
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i'm not sure why you would want to replace the phone. is it really a big deal if wireless sync isn't working?
Seems like too much hassle for too little reward, but hey if you want it that badly then go for it.
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...yeah, it is. I don't know about you, but I leave my phone charger in the wall near my clock and bed, where I've always kept my phone. My computer is not in the same area, and the cable is quite short.
WP7 all feature the ability that, if left on their chargers, will sync--in effect. The "hassle" is already over--namely, trying to fix the problem. Actually calling in for the replacement took all of 6 minutes, at the most, and I get to keep my phone until a suitable replacement comes.
I'd like it if it wasn't problem, but I'd prefer to have the feature over not having it.
Well, my replacement came in....and it's not syncing either.
Basically, it's the same as before. Wireless Sync simply won't trigger. It doesn't try and fail, it just doesn't sync at all. As though someone's keeping the phone from going idle, or the process never worked in the first place.
On the bright side, there was probably nothing wrong with the second phone I got. On the down side, only the first phone I had--which I returned--every wireless synced properly (and it did it without me even knowing it was an option to begin with).
No idea what's wrong. Calling Zune Support mostly served as a way to suck up all my monthly minutes, so I'm pretty much on my own, I suspect.
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Well, my replacement came in....and it's not syncing either.
Basically, it's the same as before. Wireless Sync simply won't trigger. It doesn't try and fail, it just doesn't sync at all. As though someone's keeping the phone from going idle, or the process never worked in the first place.
On the bright side, there was probably nothing wrong with the second phone I got. On the down side, only the first phone I had--which I returned--every wireless synced properly (and it did it without me even knowing it was an option to begin with).
No idea what's wrong. Calling Zune Support mostly served as a way to suck up all my monthly minutes, so I'm pretty much on my own, I suspect.
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I had the same problem with my HD7, the first month wireless sync worked perfectly. But since January it is not syncing anymore. Setting it on the laptop of my dad wireless sync worked again. So it seems to be something on my own laptop.
It's a mystery.
I'm going to try another new router, and see if that makes a difference at all. If that works, I'll have to sell my E1000 for cheap, unfortunately, but if it actually fixes the problem, I can live with that.
In any case, I need to return one phone to Dell, and as it stands, I think I'd keep my no. 2 if the no. 3 makes no clear change.
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I am trying to upload a new ROM to my phone but i am having problems with it being recognised by my PC.
Firewall is switched off on my PC.
USB to PC settings on phone set to prompt me and default to ActiveSync.
PC not finding the Memory Card also as a drive.
Hard-Reset also performed with no joy.
Nothing is happening however other than charging. This is the same on all PC's i have tried.
Any ideas how i can get it working??
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I am trying to upload a new ROM to my phone but i am having problems with it being recognised by my PC.
Firewall is switched off on my PC.
USB to PC settings on phone set to prompt me and default to ActiveSync.
PC not finding the Memory Card also as a drive.
Hard-Reset also performed with no joy.
Nothing is happening however other than charging. This is the same on all PC's i have tried.
Any ideas how i can get it working??
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If you find a solution, tell me!
Mine won't sync either, no matter what I try, so I've resorted to using a BT USB for syncing/file transfer. I have to flash via SD card and won't be able to use Task29 until it's set up to work via SD card either.
Debbie
DebbieNY13 said:
If you find a solution, tell me!
Mine won't sync either, no matter what I try, so I've resorted to using a BT USB for syncing/file transfer. I have to flash via SD card and won't be able to use Task29 until it's set up to work via SD card either.
Debbie
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You can enter bootloader and then plug in the usb. This way you don't need to sync with active sync Task29 runs this way.
Lennyz1988 said:
You can enter bootloader and then plug in the usb. This way you don't need to sync with active sync Task29 runs this way.
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Nope, that won't work for me. When I enter the bootloader, it says 'serial' in the white portion at the bottom instead of 'usb'. No amount of hard resets clears this up for me.
Thanks, though.
Debbie
There's good news and bad...
I had this problem, the good news is that I think it's fixed now, the bad news is it involve a trip to HTC. I flashed back to stock and still had the problem, called HTC who agreed it was probably a h/w fault, they piucked it up, repaired it and it's in a UPS van on it's way back to me as I type.
Until it comes back I can't confirm they really have repaired it, or what they've done to fix it.
HTH
Gordon
Thanks so much, Gordon. Please let me know how it worked out for you and what costs were involved.
I'm sure, at some point, I will have to bite the bullet and get mine fixed as well.
Debbie
GordonTGopher said:
I had this problem, the good news is that I think it's fixed now, the bad news is it involve a trip to HTC. I flashed back to stock and still had the problem, called HTC who agreed it was probably a h/w fault, they piucked it up, repaired it and it's in a UPS van on it's way back to me as I type.
Until it comes back I can't confirm they really have repaired it, or what they've done to fix it.
HTH
Gordon
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I have the same problem.
After all, I find that the USB port of the phone is bad, i.e. some pins are brocken.
After changing the USB port, I solved the problem.
DebbieNY13 said:
Thanks so much, Gordon. Please let me know how it worked out for you and what costs were involved.
I'm sure, at some point, I will have to bite the bullet and get mine fixed as well.
Debbie
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Well one new mainboard, it works! I was also having intermitent touch screen problems so they've replaced the LCD! All under warranty, so it didn't cost a penny Well done HTC.
Gordon
goochy said:
I am trying to upload a new ROM to my phone but i am having problems with it being recognised by my PC.
Firewall is switched off on my PC.
USB to PC settings on phone set to prompt me and default to ActiveSync.
PC not finding the Memory Card also as a drive.
Hard-Reset also performed with no joy.
Nothing is happening however other than charging. This is the same on all PC's i have tried.
Any ideas how i can get it working??
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Just to make sure, did you set Activesync to use the slower method? When I upgraded my ROM I had to use the slow method in order for my Windows 7 to see the new ROM.
guys i have the same prob and i bought it from USA unlocked Stock Asian Rom and Now i am in Pakistan.I had some major issues with it.It just stopped syncing one day.Have tried everything.The battery usage also increased dramatically(it dies in 10 hrs after a full recharge)I thought it was a virus but now i think its hardware.I think i'll send it for warranty claim.
I just went through this on my VZW TP2. A month ago it began syncing slowly or not at all, very sporadic, and after messing with it for two hours it began working again. I tried everything except a hard-reset, including reinstalling ActiveSync, changing cables, etc. It happened again earlier in the week and an hour with HTC on the phone couldn't revive it. I called VZW and had a new phone in two days, and we're now up and running again.
I tried BT sync at one time but didn't like having to click multiple times to get it going every time I got within range. There doesn't seem to be a way to have it sync automatically or with one button.
I have the Tmo TP2 and SAME issue, I luckily am getting a new one from Tmo, but I am really starting to think something more is going on here........... I am not convinced ALL OF US, even a lot on PPC geeks, same exact issue? different carriers? come on........... I am glad I am getting a new one, but I would really love to know the root cause of this. IT SEEMS VERY VERY VERY MUCH LIKE THE "TRANSFER DATA" option if "turned off" (if you will), not a physical hardware failure. Kinda like you can turn that option off in windows to not allow USB storage devices to connect, you can still connect other devices (mice, keyboards) or charge things (like our phone) but the computer will NOT see it there at all!!! I really think something like that is happening IN our phones!!! hundreds of us bend the same pin(s). Too wierd.
I hade the same problem!
After trying everything I finally opened up the phone. In the phone I found some dust particles on the usb pins on the board, I cleaned it up and now the sync works again.
NO Sync with Windows 7
I have the same issue with my Win 7 machine...... PC does not even see the Phone at all. Plug it into my Windows XP machine and it's perfect, connects everytime, using the same cable. i have tried everything i can find on the internet and multipal forums, still no Joy! Works great on Win xp, so i think it is a problem with win 7 drivers.....
Still searching for an answer........
Oh, by the way it was working for months, just stopped one day....i even wiped out my pc and reloaded it, no Joy!
I'm starting to have the same issues on my AT&T Tilt 2 but sporadically. Every now and then I lose the phone in MS activesync. I have to delicately place the phone on the table and gently insert the USB cable into the back of the phone in order for it to sync up with my PC. If I move any of the cables or phone, it will drop the connection. I tied several different cables and PC's so I ruled that out. The problem seems to be the USB port on the phone.
Its been almost a year since I've had this phone so I want to get that fixed. If I were to call AT&T and inform them of this would they replace the phone or would they fix the problem with the port and send me the phone back?
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I'm starting to have the same issues on my AT&T Tilt 2 but sporadically. Every now and then I lose the phone in MS activesync. I have to delicately place the phone on the table and gently insert the USB cable into the back of the phone in order for it to sync up with my PC. If I move any of the cables or phone, it will drop the connection. I tied several different cables and PC's so I ruled that out. The problem seems to be the USB port on the phone.
Its been almost a year since I've had this phone so I want to get that fixed. If I were to call AT&T and inform them of this would they replace the phone or would they fix the problem with the port and send me the phone back?
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I'm not sure what your warranty is from AT&T, but HTC normally has a 15 month warranty on the device. Go through AT&T if you can first. The carriers will normally ship you a replacement device before you send yours in. HTC's repair process is generally very lengthy as they actually repair your device and then send it back to you rather than shipping you a refurbished unit like carriers normally do.
As far as it not connecting, try a different connection method like BirdieSync and Thunderbird. I use this combo on my PC (W7 Pro x64), and it works wonderfully every time.
Hey all,
So I've had my Tilt2 for a couple months now, and I've been flashing it almost as long but recently I've run into the problem that from searching (WOO!) I can see a lot of other people have had: ActiveSync will not connect with my phone. It charges via the computer but WMDC/ActiveSync do not detect any phone is connected. I've tried two cords on three computers but have had no luck. Unfortunately, I hard reset (in an effort to fix this) the phone and all my contacts are of course gone and thanks to the fact that I only back up messages/call history with PIM backup, the only back up of my contacts is on my computer in Outlook. I can function without being able to resync outlook calendar/tasks/notes to my phone, but I have way too many contacts to add by hand so I need another solution. In addition, I bought the phone refurbed from AT&T as my upgrade, and I think the refurb warranty has ended and I'm leaving the country for the summer in two weeks so I'd rather not spend those two weeks waiting for an HTC engineer to replace the USB port (which from searching, seems to be the issue). Please help me find some other way to get my contacts from Outlook to my phone. THANKS
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Hey all,
So I've had my Tilt2 for a couple months now, and I've been flashing it almost as long but recently I've run into the problem that from searching (WOO!) I can see a lot of other people have had: ActiveSync will not connect with my phone. It charges via the computer but WMDC/ActiveSync do not detect any phone is connected. I've tried two cords on three computers but have had no luck. Unfortunately, I hard reset (in an effort to fix this) the phone and all my contacts are of course gone and thanks to the fact that I only back up messages/call history with PIM backup, the only back up of my contacts is on my computer in Outlook. I can function without being able to resync outlook calendar/tasks/notes to my phone, but I have way too many contacts to add by hand so I need another solution. In addition, I bought the phone refurbed from AT&T as my upgrade, and I think the refurb warranty has ended and I'm leaving the country for the summer in two weeks so I'd rather not spend those two weeks waiting for an HTC engineer to replace the USB port (which from searching, seems to be the issue). Please help me find some other way to get my contacts from Outlook to my phone. THANKS
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wiggy-wiggy-wiggy-wassup beatmaster?
I think the easiest solution in your case right now, is to setup phone-to-PC syncing via bluetooth. If your PC doesn't already have bluetooth built-in, you can get an adapter for $15 or less that will be all you need. Once you have that, your phone can connect to the PC that way, and do all the regular sync functions (like restoring your contacts!) that you could do through the USB connection.
Let us know (or PM me) if you need help finding an adapter or getting it setup.
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wiggy-wiggy-wiggy-wassup beatmaster?
I think the easiest solution in your case right now, is to setup phone-to-PC syncing via bluetooth. If your PC doesn't already have bluetooth built-in, you can get an adapter for $15 or less that will be all you need. Once you have that, your phone can connect to the PC that way, and do all the regular sync functions (like restoring your contacts!) that you could do through the USB connection.
Let us know (or PM me) if you need help finding an adapter or getting it setup.
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Two things: 1) will syncing that way work if I don't have an already established partnership with my PC? I uninstalled & reinstalled WMDC & tried to remove all possible partnerships because those were suggestions on other threads.
2) somewhat unrelated I just found out that I bought the phone 83 days ago, which puts it within ATT's refurb warranty period (by a week) so I am considering trying to get it replaced, but do I need to reflash it to ATT's rom in order to do so? I.e.: does having a different ROM on the device violate the TOS?
Did you try a different rom? Task 29 and then flash another rom. Then you can make sure its not rom related.
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Did you try a different rom? Task 29 and then flash another rom. Then you can make sure its not rom related.
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Doesnt make sense.. if the phone wont connect to active sync how can he flash a rom?
Edit: Ah wait.. I forgot you can flash from your SD card
Double Edit: If you CAN flash it via your PC then it is connecting and maybe you just dont have a setting set up right on your phone to synce when active sync is on. When you connect it to your computer does that screen come on asking if you want to use activesync, hard drive or internet sharing?
All in all.. bluetooth might be your best bet instead of ripping apart the phone to replace the usb port. Especially if you cant do anything else. Try a hard resetting AGAIN first though and see if it syncs after that
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Two things: 1) will syncing that way work if I don't have an already established partnership with my PC? I uninstalled & reinstalled WMDC & tried to remove all possible partnerships because those were suggestions on other threads.
2) somewhat unrelated I just found out that I bought the phone 83 days ago, which puts it within ATT's refurb warranty period (by a week) so I am considering trying to get it replaced, but do I need to reflash it to ATT's rom in order to do so? I.e.: does having a different ROM on the device violate the TOS?
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1) That's a good question...I believe it will, but haven't tested it that way myself
2) Yes, flashing a custom ROM technically voids the warranty, but flashing back to the stock rom AND a stock SPL should get around that no problem (many have reported they still received warranty service by doing that)
Aaron McCarthy said:
Doesnt make sense.. if the phone wont connect to active sync how can he flash a rom?
Edit: Ah wait.. I forgot you can flash from your SD card
Double Edit: If you CAN flash it via your PC then it is connecting and maybe you just dont have a setting set up right on your phone to synce when active sync is on. When you connect it to your computer does that screen come on asking if you want to use activesync, hard drive or internet sharing?
All in all.. bluetooth might be your best bet instead of ripping apart the phone to replace the usb port. Especially if you cant do anything else. Try a hard resetting AGAIN first though and see if it syncs after that
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I did flash from my SD card, but can I run Task 29 from it & then subsequently flash from it?
In response to the bluetooth suggestions, that isn't working either because from what I can tell, I do in fact, need to have an already established wired connection to make it work. So at this point I need to flash stock roms/radio/SPL to return this puppy to ATT. on that note: I found the stock ROM at http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/downloads/ but where do I get the normal SPL/which radio came with it (or does that part not even matter)?
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I did flash from my SD card, but can I run Task 29 from it & then subsequently flash from it?
In response to the bluetooth suggestions, that isn't working either because from what I can tell, I do in fact, need to have an already established wired connection to make it work. So at this point I need to flash stock roms/radio/SPL to return this puppy to ATT. on that note: I found the stock ROM at http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/downloads/ but where do I get the normal SPL/which radio came with it (or does that part not even matter)?
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Nevermind, turns out you can find the SPL to use in the file I downloaded from the HTC website above. Problem solved, calling ATT today to get this replaced. Just thought I'd write my solution down here so that anyone else with a similar problem can see how I figured it out. THANKS FOR THE HELP!
So I love the wifi sync with the WP7, but it seems that it is not designed for multiuser environments.
If you have one WP7 device and one PC that is always on, like a home server or media center, only the active user logged on in order for it to sync. If you have multiple users they will not all sync automatically. If you use a generic login without admin rights for a common machine it won't sync at all.
Am I mistaken? Does anyone find this strange? It seems like such an obvious oversight and easy fix.
kkrull said:
Does anyone find this strange? It seems like such an obvious oversight and easy fix.
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I honestly don't find this strange. A phone is a very very personal single-user thing. Why should it synch its stuff with anyone but the logged-on user?
Jan Roelof
jpijper said:
I honestly don't find this strange. A phone is a very very personal single-user thing. Why should it synch its stuff with anyone but the logged-on user?
Jan Roelof
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Because whomever is logged on is irrelevant. What is the point of a background WiFi sync if you have to be using the machine and logged on? You might as well plug in the phone.
If the service is running at all I would think it would sync all users that needed to be synced. The whole platform of Windows is multi-user.
Otherwise if you have five family members with five phones you have to have five machines left on every night to sync.
Ok this is a joke ??? right ??? Five family members with 5 WP7 phones and all want to sync at night???
And why the pc have to be open all night to sync?? ...Its a 5-10 min (top) proccess even with big amounts of data
WiFi sync its another way of sync ..No cables is the meaning of it ...
And yes ..you are mistaken this its not strange.
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Because whomever is logged on is irrelevant. What is the point of a background WiFi sync if you have to be using the machine and logged on? You might as well plug in the phone.
If the service is running at all I would think it would sync all users that needed to be synced. The whole platform of Windows is multi-user.
Otherwise if you have five family members with five phones you have to have five machines left on every night to sync.
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good point
kkrull said:
So I love the wifi sync with the WP7, but it seems that it is not designed for multiuser environments.
If you have one WP7 device and one PC that is always on, like a home server or media center, only the active user logged on in order for it to sync. If you have multiple users they will not all sync automatically. If you use a generic login without admin rights for a common machine it won't sync at all.
Am I mistaken? Does anyone find this strange? It seems like such an obvious oversight and easy fix.
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Have you tried ONLY running Zune on the account you want to sync with and use the "Switch User" function (assuming a moderately newer OS) for other users to user the computer instead of logging out? I havent tried this, just a thought.
No, this is not strange behavior either..... Your just angry because it doesnt work the way YOU want it to work instead of the way it was designed... for the majority.
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Have you tried ONLY running Zune on the account you want to sync with and use the "Switch User" function (assuming a moderately newer OS) for other users to user the computer instead of logging out? I havent tried this, just a thought.
No, this is not strange behavior either..... Your just angry because it doesnt work the way YOU want it to work instead of the way it was designed... for the majority.
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never even thought about the possibility and if somebody had asked me I'd probably say won't work. But, I have fast user switching on here with two users who have WP7 phones and will try this tonight.
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Have you tried ONLY running Zune on the account you want to sync with and use the "Switch User" function (assuming a moderately newer OS) for other users to user the computer instead of logging out? I havent tried this, just a thought.
No, this is not strange behavior either..... Your just angry because it doesnt work the way YOU want it to work instead of the way it was designed... for the majority.
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thats how i have it set up and every morning i check the pc on the normal user account zune is up and says can not connect to windows phone or something along those lines...
it is super annoying i want my phone to sync when im sleeping at night but unfortunatly i can not leave my user account active all night long so basically the feature is useless
When u get home just plug it in for. A few min
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And why not just stay logged in in sleep mode I have nothing to hide from my family
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tried this just now. Once the sync starts I can switch to the other user account and it continues and finishes several albums while I am on the other account.
I was not able to trigger a sync from the other user account yet though. WP7 sync is very fussy though and I may just have to be more patient - or it just doesn't work.
as we know from MS about sync:
Your phone and PC are both connected to your home Wi-Fi network. Note that wireless sync is not supported on workplace Wi-Fi networks.
Your phone battery has at least a medium-level charge ( Battery icon at medium-level) and your phone is connected to an AC power adapter (that is, your phone must be connected to the wall charger and not connected to your computer).
You're not interacting with your phone. For example, you're not touching things on the screen, the backlight is off, and music and videos aren't playing (it's OK if a song or video is paused).
It might take up to 15 minutes for wireless sync to start, and there is no way to manually force it to occur.
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Tried this several more times - no luck. It never starts on the other user account. However, when switching to my account it starts after a while. It continues sync when I switch to the other account in the background.
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It might take up to 15 minutes for wireless sync to start, and there is no way to manually force it to occur.
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That's really sucks :-( BTW, I hope some workaround should exist... What we really need to do is a capture and analyse WiFi traffic between PC and WP7.
Right, thought I'd ask this here even though the same problem happens on my wife's Wildfire S.
I have both phones connected via wifi to my home network. My main PC is hard-wired to the same router as the phones connect to and both phones have a static ip set up. If I use the network from the phone (e.g. use a browser to surf the net, use email or the Market) then I have no problems. I can also 'ping' my main computer from the phone (I have a terminal emulator installed) and it comes back immediately with a response.
The issue is when I try to ping the phone from my PC it takes several attempts to "wake up". Not a big problem, I hear you say, but the irritation from my side is that the same thing happens when I go to sync my contacts/calendar and I have to try several times to get it to connect.
Now, it could well be that this is an Android "feature" and there's nothing I can do about it, in which case fine, I'm not going to lose sleep over it. However, if there is something I can do I'd like to know what that "something" is. Anyone got any ideas as to what may be happening here?
Oh, both phones are bog stock and have been updated to the latest HTC firmware. Mine is unlocked and unbranded, the Wildfire S is a Vodafone branded mobile (UK).
Thanks in advance.
Dave
Not much help I know but my android phones (G1, Desire, Desire HD) all respond to a ping instantaneously, no lag.
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dvhttn said:
Right, thought I'd ask this here even though the same problem happens on my wife's Wildfire S.
I have both phones connected via wifi to my home network. My main PC is hard-wired to the same router as the phones connect to and both phones have a static ip set up. If I use the network from the phone (e.g. use a browser to surf the net, use email or the Market) then I have no problems. I can also 'ping' my main computer from the phone (I have a terminal emulator installed) and it comes back immediately with a response.
The issue is when I try to ping the phone from my PC it takes several attempts to "wake up". Not a big problem, I hear you say, but the irritation from my side is that the same thing happens when I go to sync my contacts/calendar and I have to try several times to get it to connect.
Now, it could well be that this is an Android "feature" and there's nothing I can do about it, in which case fine, I'm not going to lose sleep over it. However, if there is something I can do I'd like to know what that "something" is. Anyone got any ideas as to what may be happening here?
Oh, both phones are bog stock and have been updated to the latest HTC firmware. Mine is unlocked and unbranded, the Wildfire S is a Vodafone branded mobile (UK).
Thanks in advance.
Dave
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It would seem since both the phones can ping your pc just fine and the router is able to process the request that the pc would be the weak link in the chain. There are several things that could cause your pc to lag while trying to ping your phones. Drivers, os environment, type of network card, firewalls, etc. Also if the phone is in a sleep state it would take longer or not return a response at all until screen is turned on or the WiFi is re awakened. There are settings in the phone to set the WiFi to not sleep but then you will eat up your battery. Best thing to do is make sure the phone is awake and WiFi signal obtained, then try to sync or ping. If it still is dodgy then you need to resolve issues on your pc.
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After a while, about four to six minutes, it disconnects and the music keeps playing through the HTC 10 loudspeakers. I'm streaming to my Onkyo TX-RZ900 which works just fine when associated with my IMac Airplay.
No answers so far... I'm surprised I'm the only one trying to use this. Since Nougat, Airplay does not connect anymore, anyways.
I haven't tried since the Nougat update, but it did the same to me in Marshmallow. As far as I remember, it was quite random how long it was working for. Sometimes a minute or so, sometimes 5-10 mins. It was one of the features that convinced me to buy the HTC 10 originally, but had to learn living without it the end. But I'm very forgiving, cause otherwise I love this phone
Thanks for your feedback. It would be nice if you could give it another try now that Nougat is there.
Tried with Nougat. It appeared to have been connected a little bit longer, but I still got disconnected after a couple of mins. By a couple I mean like 2
Problem solved for me.
I use Adguard to get rid of ads on my phone. I finally understood it blocked Airplay by default, applied the correct settings, Airplay now works like a charm. I'm a happy camper.
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Problem solved for me.
I use Adguard to get rid of ads on my phone. I finally understood it blocked Airplay by default, applied the correct settings, Airplay now works like a charm. I'm a happy camper.
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Hmm...Is it still ok ever since? I don't use Adguard or anything similar and I'm on full stock rom. I'm wondering what's causing this on my phone...
You're right. It holded up pretty good for a few days, but now it disconnects just like it always did. What a shame.
Crap! It would be nice to find a solution for this - I think of this a lot more since we've started talking about it here...
What I find intriguing is that I can't see many people complaining about it on the internet and this makes me wondering if
a, it's a bug that only affects a small percentage of devices, but otherwise working fine
b, people don't know that HTC added Airplay support to HTC Connect
c, people having this phone don't have any Apple devices, because it's made by the enemy
I couldn't agree more.
But I must confess I had never heard of Airplay before I got my Onkyo receiver... Even if I own an IMac...
Killer feature in my opinion
When it works.
Not giving up. I disabled WiFi battery optimization in advanced WiFi settings, the connection has been flawless for the last few days. A step in the right direction?
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Not giving up. I disabled WiFi battery optimization in advanced WiFi settings, the connection has been flawless for the last few days. A step in the right direction?
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Haha I already have I'll give this a go too and will report back with my results
Here's the newest twist: I don't know what happened, we moved house, but are using the same routers (2 Time Capsules), same Apple TV, same HTC 10 with full official nougat and yet it doesn't connect anymore It says "Unable to connect to Apple TV"
Tried
* wiping app data
* wiping cache partition
* restarting routers
* restarting Apple TV
* restarting HTC 10
No luck. My wife's HTC 10 does the same. It goes silent for a split second like it was connected, then the connection breaks and keeps playing on the phone. If I manually select Apple TV (kinda forcing it to reconnect), it throws the above error. In the same time, my MacBook Air and my iPad can AirPlay to the same Apple TV, so it's something with the phones. Since it kept disconnecting anyway, it's not a big loss, but I guees my tests end here for now. I'll try after the next system update, that might bring it back to life
That's unfortunate... I wish I could help. No clue what's going on with your set up, as I use no Apple devices.
My 10 works like a charm with my Onkyo receiver since I disabled the WiFi optimization, I'm amazed it was that simple.
I'll give that a go if/when it starts working again. It was turned on both on my phone and my wife's, so yeah, maybe this was the culprit.