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I've got root, but what kind?

I've searched the forums, but can't get a real clear answer for me. Anyways, im rooted and have s off, but how do I know if I have the fake s off? And what does that mean? Also, what makes me void my warranty? Using the gfree method? What does gfree mean? If anyone is familiar, I followed the "blackprince" video on youtube to help me root. I just would like to be enlightened. Thank you!
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If I get an answer let me knower I'm wounding the same thing.
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PatrickHuey said:
I've searched the forums, but can't get a real clear answer for me. Anyways, im rooted and have s off, but how do I know if I have the fake s off? And what does that mean? Also, what makes me void my warranty? Using the gfree method? What does gfree mean? If anyone is familiar, I followed the "blackprince" video on youtube to help me root. I just would like to be enlightened. Thank you!
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If you only used the "blackprince" video, you do not have gfree root, which means radio s-off, you have a simulated s-off with an ENG Hboot, so your phone system is tricked into thinking you have a true perm root, so you have root but not a "true" permroot. Having radio S-off is a true perm root. Gfree gives you radio s-off. Here's a link to the HTC VIsion Wiki that explains what the diffrence between the two are and how to do gfree if you choose:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
To do gfree from the point you are at with your root you will start at this subsection in the above link "PERMAROOT (using "gfree" + "root")" "gfree version 0.02 and its options " and you will also need the gfree_02.zip file which is also in the link above.
You can do the gfree process over the root you now have and this will give you radio s-off and if you choose super CID and SIM unlock. The link above explains what these are.
As far as your warranty, you have already voided your warranty by rooting your phone (real root or not), in order to use your warranty you have to unroot your phone, back to complete stock settings, rom etc. There are guides on unrooting your phone, gonna have to do some searching for it but its all in this forum.

I guess I knew my warrantly was voided, but i just wanted to know what kind of root I had. Thanks a lot, you really cleared this up. If I were at my computer rather than my phone, I'd use the 'thanks' button.
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getting a new g2 on Friday

so i got the promotion to get a free g2 but heres a few questions im thinking that it will come with the latest rom can i root it ive been looking through a ton of guides and im confused what should i do. which method work to gain perma root

cudahy_boy said:
so i got the promotion to get a free g2 but heres a few questions im thinking that it will come with the latest rom can i root it ive been looking through a ton of guides and im confused what should i do. which method work to gain perma root
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It may come with the latest ROM but I more suspect that it will come with the original (shipped) ROM and immediately receive the OTA update. The good news is that there are no issues rooting even if you have the OTA applied (I think some of the rooting guides assume you do) so I would go ahead and apply the OTA if prompted. This is different than the Desire Z where the latest updates can make rooting more complicated.
The most widely recommended method of obtaining permanent root is the "gfree" method, it will permanently root your phone and at the same time will SIM unlock it as well as set the CID so you could load whatever carrier ROM you might want to.
The only issue most people seem to have with using the gfree method is getting ADB up and running and talking to your G2. Using ADB isn't (as far as I know) strictly necessary to make gfree work but it's easiest and all the guides (that I've seen) have you use ADB.
Here is the section of the wiki showing you how to use gfree to root your phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
For instructions for getting ADB up and running I would look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685

Check out unlockr.com on rooting g2. They use the Visionary method. Took me only couple mins.
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GhostZini said:
Check out unlockr.com on rooting g2. They use the Visionary method. Took me only couple mins.
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Could you please stop telling people to use the VISIONary method!? That method has a risk of putting the user's phone into a boot loop! Please know you what your talking about before attempting to help some one, it can make the difference of bricking a phone and rooting a phone. Rage and GFree DOES NOT have a risk of putting your phone in a boot loop. Out of all the people that have messed up their phone, EVERY ONE of them that I have seen has used the VISIONary method. I'm not trying to be mean, but please be more careful when giving advice. I know your just trying to help, and I respect you for that but please do no tell some one to do the VISIONary method.

Sorry mate, I had no clue bout that. I had no loop but i see your point
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nevermind about my quesiton lol

Thanks for this question, it answered mine so I didn't have to ask. Will be using g-free way shortly.

[Q] Can I go back to stock after rooting and romming

So recently I warrantied a G2 and was glad I never rooted and rommed it with CM7. I had CM on my old G1 and would love to get into it again. Can I go back to stock in case I need this one warrantied? I don't want them to know I did anything with it. The other topics that popped up in the search weren't specific with warranty. Thanks.

Yes there are procedures you have to follow in order to unroot and s-on again if you have to return it for warranty reasons or whatever reason you have. Its pretty simple... but it matters what method of rooting you did. Like unforgivens way of rooting you have to hex edit and while on gfree you can flash the PC10IMG.zip but still get s-off and you have to follow more procedures i think to get s-on...
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unrooting

i want to unroot my g2 phone i used visionary n gfree to root it but i feel like idk what im doing rly with using roms so i just wanna unroot it n get it over with. how can i do this? i was searching the forums but idk which way is best for me and with the method i used.

huhhhhh said:
i want to unroot my g2 phone i used visionary n gfree to root it but i feel like idk what im doing rly with using roms so i just wanna unroot it n get it over with. how can i do this? i was searching the forums but idk which way is best for me and with the method i used.
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here you go ... read the wiki
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
the last section is return to stock ... read that ... also gfree also has a built in feature to go back to factory settings and S-on... all there in the wiki ....
all the best

[Q] NEW G2, trying to root after a brick.

Alright,
After I bricked my first HTC G2, I have decided to get another one. I was the lucky one which HTC replaced without any questions. My first phone got bricked because it had errors in the recovery. (this is what happened). OK NOW, I am getting ready to root my second G2 cause I am tired of the stock (really want the MIUI!)
I have a coupe of questions:
1. What are the necessary steps that I need to take so that my SECOND G2 wont go down like my first one?
2. What is Eng boot?
I am going to root it using the same guide I used last time (this one!)
Let me know, I am not going to attempt anything till I hear from you experts!
- Thank you so much!

First of all, visionary is a risky way to root your phone. The safest, though more intimidating way is using gfree and adb, as found on the cyanogenmod wiki (if someone would be kind enough to link him).
1. Read the steps. Read them again. And again. Be able to recite them in your sleep.
2. The engineering hboot (I believe) will allow you to possibly save your g2 if something goes wrong when flashing a rom. Though again there is a guarantee of bricking if this is done wrong. If you plan on just flashing miui and staying, this MAY not be necessary. But it is entirely up to you.
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Nospin said:
First of all, visionary is a risky way to root your phone. The safest, though more intimidating way is using gfree and adb, as found on the cyanogenmod wiki (if someone would be kind enough to link him).
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Do you think my recovery crashed because I used visionary? I have read that it is unsafe, but it was just so easy to do with that method.

Flyingpilot said:
Do you think my recovery crashed because I used visionary? I have read that it is unsafe, but it was just so easy to do with that method.
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Im pretty sure that it wasn't visionary. If I'm not mistaken visionary works perfectly fine for temproot, permrooting with it is when it is risky. I also rooted with the method above and nothing has happened to my G2
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