I've searched the forums, but can't get a real clear answer for me. Anyways, im rooted and have s off, but how do I know if I have the fake s off? And what does that mean? Also, what makes me void my warranty? Using the gfree method? What does gfree mean? If anyone is familiar, I followed the "blackprince" video on youtube to help me root. I just would like to be enlightened. Thank you!
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If I get an answer let me knower I'm wounding the same thing.
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PatrickHuey said:
I've searched the forums, but can't get a real clear answer for me. Anyways, im rooted and have s off, but how do I know if I have the fake s off? And what does that mean? Also, what makes me void my warranty? Using the gfree method? What does gfree mean? If anyone is familiar, I followed the "blackprince" video on youtube to help me root. I just would like to be enlightened. Thank you!
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If you only used the "blackprince" video, you do not have gfree root, which means radio s-off, you have a simulated s-off with an ENG Hboot, so your phone system is tricked into thinking you have a true perm root, so you have root but not a "true" permroot. Having radio S-off is a true perm root. Gfree gives you radio s-off. Here's a link to the HTC VIsion Wiki that explains what the diffrence between the two are and how to do gfree if you choose:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
To do gfree from the point you are at with your root you will start at this subsection in the above link "PERMAROOT (using "gfree" + "root")" "gfree version 0.02 and its options " and you will also need the gfree_02.zip file which is also in the link above.
You can do the gfree process over the root you now have and this will give you radio s-off and if you choose super CID and SIM unlock. The link above explains what these are.
As far as your warranty, you have already voided your warranty by rooting your phone (real root or not), in order to use your warranty you have to unroot your phone, back to complete stock settings, rom etc. There are guides on unrooting your phone, gonna have to do some searching for it but its all in this forum.
I guess I knew my warrantly was voided, but i just wanted to know what kind of root I had. Thanks a lot, you really cleared this up. If I were at my computer rather than my phone, I'd use the 'thanks' button.
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i'm not really comfortable with using adb and terminal to root my phone because im not willing to turn it into a $300 brick lol anyone know if there will ever be a one click perm root?
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i'm not really comfortable with using adb and terminal to root my phone because im not willing to turn it into a $300 brick lol anyone know if there will ever be a one click perm root?
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there is a program....hold on ill find it brb.....
FOUND IT!
http://android.modaco.com/content/software/320350/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/
it is called Visionary r14 and while its not 1 click it did mine in 2!
load on phone click temproot
also make sure usb debuggin is checked!!
then after it temp roots open up app again and click attempt perm root now
viola! thats all i did and been running roms ever since! hope that helps!
That might also brick your phone... you should get insurance on your phone then its only a 130 dollar brick but seriously use the rage method or use the new real root/sim unlock. Its stickied in the dev section. Its about as easy as it can be.
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I've never been excited about one-touch root methods. One small thing goes wrong, a glitch in the program or something and boom, dead phone. At least the other way if I brick it, it's my fault.
I'm practicing adb in preparation for the rooting of my phone, I'm aiming for a late December root.
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I've never been excited about one-touch root methods. One small thing goes wrong, a glitch in the program or something and boom, dead phone. At least the other way if I brick it, it's my fault.
I'm practicing adb in preparation for the rooting of my phone, I'm aiming for a late December root.
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Sounds sensible to me, I think the rage method is a lot better, at least you're in control over what it's doing and can see every step.
yea i would love a one quick root im a newbe but would like to root this phone
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yea i would love a one quick root im a newbe but would like to root this phone
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Like shortlived and stevie said just try the rage method its fairly simple. Just take some time to learn how to use adb and then it'll be a breeze. Also adb is almost a necessity when it comes to rooting/modding android phones. Also if u get stuck or confused bout anything there are plenty of useful threads just search lol good luck
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Adb is very simple. All you need to know for the rage method is "adb push" if you can open a cmd window on your pc, learn a few dos commands like "cd" and "cd.." then your all set. There are some very good guides to get you set up with adb just check the stickies. And good luck!
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Just use visionary r14 to temp root. then look through the overclocking thread and find the GScript method of Overclocking. I permanently rooted my first g2 and then the sd card gave out on me and I sent in it for warranty. Idk if they checked to see if its rooted or not but I haven't been charged. The only issue with perma rooting the g2 is the fact that if you screw up they can see if you've tampered with it and if you've only temp rooted it, from what I understand, the temp root is much safer but you have to root it every time you reset your phone (turning it back on from an off state). small price to pay imo. GL though!
Get over your fear, read over the instructions, and root using rage. It took me a half-hour to root my phone, and that was the first thing I did when I got it.
I think the new easiest way is gfree? I haven't done it because I was already permrooted. It also should unlock your phone (sim, radio, some other thing I don't remember.)
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There is a video that walks you thru rooting with VISIONary r14. I followed the video and worked perfectly. Just a note I unistalled my version of VISIONary first then followed there video on temp-rooting first and then onto perm-rooting. I bricked my first G2, got it replaced and was scared to try again, but if followed there videos and worked out perfect, now running CyanogenMod 6.1 rc4 and my phone is super charged. heres the links thanks to dcogen:
Do this to gain temp root:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how...ionary-method/
Then this to gain permanent root:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how...g2-htc-vision/
Then this to flash a recovery and load a custom ROM:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how...g2-htc-vision/
And here's how to completely unroot for good measure :
http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/01/how...g2-htc-vision/
Note: I was running stock OTA updated rom, rebooted to un-temproot, installed VISIONARY r14 from MODACO's website and followed the videos to the tee(first temproot video, even though I already knew how to temp root, I followed exactly what they did in the video to temp root. second Perm rooted following the video, then installed custom ROM per video), I used the link in the perm root video to download the wpthis.ko file and the hboot.img
http://www.youtube.com/user/BlackPrince310#p/u/7/tU9zn_BEth4
Try this. Worked great for me.
joemm said:
There is a video that walks you thru rooting with VISIONary r14. I followed the video and worked perfectly. Just a note I unistalled my version of VISIONary first then followed there video on temp-rooting first and then onto perm-rooting. I bricked my first G2, got it replaced and was scared to try again, but if followed there videos and worked out perfect, now running CyanogenMod 6.1 rc4 and my phone is super charged. heres the links thanks to dcogen:
Do this to gain temp root:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how...ionary-method/
Then this to gain permanent root:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how...g2-htc-vision/
Then this to flash a recovery and load a custom ROM:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how...g2-htc-vision/
And here's how to completely unroot for good measure :
http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/01/how...g2-htc-vision/
Note: I was running stock OTA updated rom, rebooted to un-temproot, installed VISIONARY r14 from MODACO's website and followed the videos to the tee(first temproot video, even though I already knew how to temp root, I followed exactly what they did in the video to temp root. second Perm rooted following the video, then installed custom ROM per video), I used the link in the perm root video to download the wpthis.ko file and the hboot.img
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Exactly what I did to the T. Great instructions and explains them in dummy form on the vids, as well as written.
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SuperCID, SIMUnlock, Radio S-Off is the new Permroot. Its actuallty true permroot. Those of you who think your permrooted technically arent. You just have a "hacked" Hboot. Doing the gfree method allows you to
1: Flash pc10img (stock rom) without the whole hex editing process and also flash roms from another carrier.
2: Your sim is unlocked (maybe wont matter for some of you but its nice to have for travel)
3: S-off, need I say more.
When flashing back to stock you also keep S-Off and do not lose it via gfree and from what I'm hearing soon there will be a way to revert back to S-On via gfree. Just incase we need to send our phones back in for any reason. Cant leave any trail of evidence.
many thanks
finally got the courage and did it. now running cyanogen. thanks so much guys.
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SuperCID, SIMUnlock, Radio S-Off is the new Permroot. Its actuallty true permroot. Those of you who think your permrooted technically arent. You just have a "hacked" Hboot.
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Sorry that's not right. SuperCID/SIM Unlock/Radio S-OFF doesn't have anything to do with perm root. Yes, this is the new way of totally unlocking your phone, but you can be full perm rooted and still have radio S-ON.
Seems to be that some people use the term "permanent root" to refer to a full unlock rather than just the rooting ability itself (i.e. run as the root user).
I think what you means to say is that those you who think you are S-OFF without running gfree technically aren't, you've got an engineering hboot which makes it look like S-OFF.
so i got the promotion to get a free g2 but heres a few questions im thinking that it will come with the latest rom can i root it ive been looking through a ton of guides and im confused what should i do. which method work to gain perma root
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so i got the promotion to get a free g2 but heres a few questions im thinking that it will come with the latest rom can i root it ive been looking through a ton of guides and im confused what should i do. which method work to gain perma root
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It may come with the latest ROM but I more suspect that it will come with the original (shipped) ROM and immediately receive the OTA update. The good news is that there are no issues rooting even if you have the OTA applied (I think some of the rooting guides assume you do) so I would go ahead and apply the OTA if prompted. This is different than the Desire Z where the latest updates can make rooting more complicated.
The most widely recommended method of obtaining permanent root is the "gfree" method, it will permanently root your phone and at the same time will SIM unlock it as well as set the CID so you could load whatever carrier ROM you might want to.
The only issue most people seem to have with using the gfree method is getting ADB up and running and talking to your G2. Using ADB isn't (as far as I know) strictly necessary to make gfree work but it's easiest and all the guides (that I've seen) have you use ADB.
Here is the section of the wiki showing you how to use gfree to root your phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
For instructions for getting ADB up and running I would look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
Check out unlockr.com on rooting g2. They use the Visionary method. Took me only couple mins.
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Check out unlockr.com on rooting g2. They use the Visionary method. Took me only couple mins.
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Could you please stop telling people to use the VISIONary method!? That method has a risk of putting the user's phone into a boot loop! Please know you what your talking about before attempting to help some one, it can make the difference of bricking a phone and rooting a phone. Rage and GFree DOES NOT have a risk of putting your phone in a boot loop. Out of all the people that have messed up their phone, EVERY ONE of them that I have seen has used the VISIONary method. I'm not trying to be mean, but please be more careful when giving advice. I know your just trying to help, and I respect you for that but please do no tell some one to do the VISIONary method.
Sorry mate, I had no clue bout that. I had no loop but i see your point
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nevermind about my quesiton lol
Thanks for this question, it answered mine so I didn't have to ask. Will be using g-free way shortly.
What's up! I'm wondering if someone can help me unroot and put back to 100% stock...
I used the rage/gfree method.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835971
That should do the trick.
He doesn't give instructions for gfree, so I'm not sure if this is the correct method.
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Ah - apologies.
No worries bro, hopefully someone else can help answer this question for me.
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I typed in unroot G2 in bing search and the unlockr site was second one down, this method worked great for me.
I looked it and read it all.
Since I used gfree to obtain s off and super cid/sim unlock, will it work?
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mftek said:
I looked it and read it all.
Since I used gfree to obtain s off and super cid/sim unlock, will it work?
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I'm not 100% positive on that. I also have a Behold 2 and, it was rooted when I got it.
I had no idea how it was rooted. I used the unlockr site for it too and, it work for it.
To me, the way the instructions are wrote, it sounds like it will work to un-root all methods of the G2 root process.
Hopefully a more experienced person will chime in shortly.
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I'm not 100% positive on that. I also have a Behold 2 and, it was rooted when I got it.
I had no idea how it was rooted. I used the unlockr site for it too and, it work for it.
To me, the way the instructions are wrote, it sounds like it will work to un-root all methods of the G2 root process.
Hopefully a more experienced person will chime in shortly.
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No, those guides will technically remove root since they restore the shipping ROM but will leave you with S-OFF (since you used gfree---if you had only used the engineering HBOOT to obtain S-OFF, the guides would have been fine). Did you take a look at the actual Wiki: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Returning_to_Stock?
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No, those guides will technically remove root since they restore the shipping ROM but will leave you with S-OFF (since you used gfree---if you had only used the engineering HBOOT to obtain S-OFF, the guides would have been fine). Did you take a look at the actual Wiki: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Returning_to_Stock?
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When I used the unlockr method, my s-off went s-on.
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When I used the unlockr method, my s-off went s-on.
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Did you use gfree to to obtain S-OFF though? If you used the engineering HBOOT to do it, as I said in my post, those guides would work fine as is. Flashing the shipping ROM with the PC10IMG file will replace the engineering HBOOT with the shipping one (which is S-ON). If you use gfree though, you get true radio S-OFF (the engineering HBOOT is a fake one that tricks the phone into thinking you have S-OFF, thus allowing write access to the system). This is done by modifying partition 7 on the phone. Since this partition contains information specific to your phone, it is normally left untouched by a PC10IMG or RUU. This is why if S-OFF is obtained through gfree, simply replacing the HBOOT with a PC10IMG file won't revert you to S-ON.
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Did you use gfree to to obtain S-OFF though? If you used the engineering HBOOT to do it, as I said in my post, those guides would work fine as is. Flashing the shipping ROM with the PC10IMG file will replace the engineering HBOOT with the shipping one (which is S-ON). If you use gfree though, you get true radio S-OFF (the engineering HBOOT is a fake one that tricks the phone into thinking you have S-OFF, thus allowing write access to the system). This is done by modifying partition 7 on the phone. Since this partition contains information specific to your phone, it is normally left untouched by a PC10IMG or RUU. This is why if S-OFF is obtained through gfree, simply replacing the HBOOT with a PC10IMG file won't revert you to S-ON.
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Worked perfectly for me. I flashed stock rom, installed PC10IMG.zip and then used gfree to turn s-on and remove sim unlock.
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Did you use gfree to to obtain S-OFF though? If you used the engineering HBOOT to do it, as I said in my post, those guides would work fine as is. Flashing the shipping ROM with the PC10IMG file will replace the engineering HBOOT with the shipping one (which is S-ON). If you use gfree though, you get true radio S-OFF (the engineering HBOOT is a fake one that tricks the phone into thinking you have S-OFF, thus allowing write access to the system). This is done by modifying partition 7 on the phone. Since this partition contains information specific to your phone, it is normally left untouched by a PC10IMG or RUU. This is why if S-OFF is obtained through gfree, simply replacing the HBOOT with a PC10IMG file won't revert you to S-ON.
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What should I do first if I used gfree to return to stock on my T-Mobile US G2? I also flashed the eng-hboot.
I used this guide http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/14344-how-to-root-a-new-g2/, and I flashed the "PC10IMG-altered.zip" right after I used gfree to get radio s-off.
Edit: I just followed the xda wiki and I didn't run into any problems.
I have perm rooted many G2's and for some reason i can't seem to get s-off on my wife's new G2. I have done the same process for about 2 hours last night and no luck. any suggestions?
Not to be rude but how is anyone gonna help you when you provided zero details on what happened, what method you used, what the exact error is, etc...
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...you used Visionary, didn't you?
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Not to be rude but how is anyone gonna help you when you provided zero details on what happened, what method you used, what the exact error is, etc...
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you're right my bad. i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965
that method and used z4root and also visionary when that didn't work. I even tried the unlockr method to no avail. all the commands are done exactly and like i said i've done this on many G2's i just don't know what is so special about this one. Thanks in advanced.
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you're right my bad. i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965
that method and used z4root and also visionary when that didn't work. I even tried the unlockr method to no avail. all the commands are done exactly and like i said i've done this on many G2's i just don't know what is so special about this one. Thanks in advanced.
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Use gfree. That will work.
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you're right my bad. i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965
that method and used z4root and also visionary when that didn't work. I even tried the unlockr method to no avail. all the commands are done exactly and like i said i've done this on many G2's i just don't know what is so special about this one. Thanks in advanced.
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I would advice to use gfree but if you want a quick method of prem rooting/S-Off use unforgivens method. I personally been using unforgivens method and I haven't had any issues. Remember Visionary just helps you gain temporary root access. (Note) Don't ever press the prem root button because you can brick your phone. You need s-off before pressing it.
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Crazy4G1 said:
you're right my bad. i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965
that method and used z4root and also visionary when that didn't work. I even tried the unlockr method to no avail. all the commands are done exactly and like i said i've done this on many G2's i just don't know what is so special about this one. Thanks in advanced.
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Just follow the guide in the wiki: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
Your new replacement phone probly has an updated firmware that you need to downgrade first. There are plenty of guides to help you with that. For more help here you need to tell us what firmware you got now and what step doest work. Can you get temp root with visionary?
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So I've recently gotten my Desire Z rooted, and I'm trying to install a custom ROM.
However Clockwork keeps telling me that my phone is not rooted, ("You must root your phone for ROM Manager to function. Superuser was not found at "/system/bin/su" or "/system/xbin/su"".
Even so my phone has SU installed as well as busybox. How do I need to go about fixing this?
Thank you for any help!
first of all what method did you follow to gain root?
also do any other rooted apps work? setcpu, titanium, adfree ?
I used the HTCdev method to unlock my bootloader then I used the Fre3vo exploit and pushed the superuser and busybox apks and installed them both.
Titanium does not work either.
I believe in order to get the su to work you have to actually flash it as a .zip the first time. Also, do you have s.off? That htcdev.com method is horse crap if you ask me, though it will get you unlocked.
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It managed to get my bootloader unlocked.
But no I don't have S-off. Would having flashed it from a .zip changed anything else?
Also I can flash ClockWorkRecovery without even a little bit of an Issue.
well s-off means no root, follow the wiki, downgrade and then root.
the htc unlocked bootloader is just a stepping stone leading to nowhere
probably the most you will get out of it is confirming your g2 is void of warranty with htc
so follow the wiki, it isnt to hard and you will be much happier than trying to cheat your way into root!
good luck!
Alright, well thanks for your help fellas!
no problem, just make sure you read the wiki first and understand it, if not search the threads and im sure someone has had the same question. but over all it takes from 30min for the experienced up to 2hrs if your lost the whole time. leave the appropriate amount of time and youll be a happy camper soon enough!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453066
This is the thread you need to follow if you have already used htcdev method. You will have to relock bootloader, then downgrade, then root and s.off.
Also, if you have any further problems talk to that nipqer, he is really good.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453066
This is the thread you need to follow if you have already used htcdev method. You will have to relock bootloader, then downgrade, then root and s.off.
Also, if you have any further problems talk to that nipqer, he is really good.
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This was the guide I followed and it just seems to be against me!
EDIT: Never mind! Finally got it to work! I now have custom ROMs again! Thanks for all the help!
If you join that irc channel, all those guys are on there and will walk you through it step by step.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
follow this guide, since you have "the official HTC unlocked bootloader" which as i said before is almost worthless (not complaining to you but to htc) i believe you need to do a few things first before you can downgrade, you need to be at froyo for this method to work, dont have time to search for you right now but im sure you'll find the appropriate steps to take if you search a little
HTC Unlock only lets you flash ROMs through fastboot. As already mentioned, it doesn't give you root, S-Off, and you can't flash straight from ROM Manager or recovery.