I have perm rooted many G2's and for some reason i can't seem to get s-off on my wife's new G2. I have done the same process for about 2 hours last night and no luck. any suggestions?
Not to be rude but how is anyone gonna help you when you provided zero details on what happened, what method you used, what the exact error is, etc...
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...you used Visionary, didn't you?
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xsteven77x said:
Not to be rude but how is anyone gonna help you when you provided zero details on what happened, what method you used, what the exact error is, etc...
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you're right my bad. i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965
that method and used z4root and also visionary when that didn't work. I even tried the unlockr method to no avail. all the commands are done exactly and like i said i've done this on many G2's i just don't know what is so special about this one. Thanks in advanced.
Crazy4G1 said:
you're right my bad. i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965
that method and used z4root and also visionary when that didn't work. I even tried the unlockr method to no avail. all the commands are done exactly and like i said i've done this on many G2's i just don't know what is so special about this one. Thanks in advanced.
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Use gfree. That will work.
Crazy4G1 said:
you're right my bad. i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965
that method and used z4root and also visionary when that didn't work. I even tried the unlockr method to no avail. all the commands are done exactly and like i said i've done this on many G2's i just don't know what is so special about this one. Thanks in advanced.
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I would advice to use gfree but if you want a quick method of prem rooting/S-Off use unforgivens method. I personally been using unforgivens method and I haven't had any issues. Remember Visionary just helps you gain temporary root access. (Note) Don't ever press the prem root button because you can brick your phone. You need s-off before pressing it.
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Crazy4G1 said:
you're right my bad. i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965
that method and used z4root and also visionary when that didn't work. I even tried the unlockr method to no avail. all the commands are done exactly and like i said i've done this on many G2's i just don't know what is so special about this one. Thanks in advanced.
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Just follow the guide in the wiki: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
Your new replacement phone probly has an updated firmware that you need to downgrade first. There are plenty of guides to help you with that. For more help here you need to tell us what firmware you got now and what step doest work. Can you get temp root with visionary?
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Thanks to Paul O'Brien @ Modaco, we now have permaroot via his VISIONary+ app, which for some reason was removed from the Market. See his changelog and download site below:
http://android.modaco.com/content/t...350/10-nov-r12-test-visionary-one-click-root/
It's so exciting watching this stuff come alive!
allen099 said:
Thanks to Paul O'Brien @ Modaco, we now have permaroot via his VISIONary+ app, which for some reason was removed from the Market. See his changelog and download site below:
http://android.modaco.com/content/t...350/10-nov-r12-test-visionary-one-click-root/
It's so exciting watching this stuff come alive!
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Reading the thread it doesn't appear that permroot works for MT4G, or is it just inconsistent?
my permaroot works just fine i even battery pulled twice today just to test that it really did stick. no problems so far either
aznpr1de808 said:
my permaroot works just fine i even battery pulled twice today just to test that it really did stick. no problems so far either
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Is that using visionary+ or my guide? BTW, What's up from a flying tiger!
It is unfortunate Google is shutting down non-malicious useful tools like this (they also remove a rooter I had used on my N! - easy root). Unless they are being threatened by legal action from HTC or others - they should stay out of the fray.
I did not delete VISIONary for this reason 9in case i had to do a factory reset and re-root). Now, the new version with perm root will make having to do it again much easier.
I hope the below is not really what it looks like (from the download link):
11/10/2010 2:43:25 PM Detected: Exploit.Linux.Lotoor.g Firefox http://pepsi.romraid.com/files/paul/com.modaco.visionaryplus.r12.apk/assets/ratc
Oh well - shut off my antivirus and downloaded file onto the SD card.
Installed it and tested it. I had gone the s=off route yesterday, so I un-rooted it (apps needing root would then not work), re-rooted it, temp and permanent. It rebootedagain, and apps that need root work OK again (it was not set to root on boot-up). App looks pretty good.
Can some more people comment on if r12 is working for MT4G permroot? And do we still have to do the other steps manually to turn S-off?
I was able to get it to work for me. I was temprooted and then applied permaroot. I haven't done S-Off yet, but I don't see a reason to do that yet anyhow.
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Is that using visionary+ or my guide? BTW, What's up from a flying tiger!
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I can confirm.. I uninstalled VISIONary after a temproot and then the permroot attempt and ran quickboot and I actually got su..
VISIONary r12 permroots the Touch.. Yes..
Now @gankin just needs to mod the latest kernel bits for this.. but otherwise.. just like that it works..
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I was able to get it to work for me. I was temprooted and then applied permaroot. I haven't done S-Off yet, but I don't see a reason to do that yet anyhow.
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Do we need to uninstall the Visionary app from the Market before we install the v12?
I seem to be having problems after I temp root my phone I go and press the permaroot button and nothing happens
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Anyone try permaroot with pre ota (2.2 not 2.2.1). I have no success by any means, need the damn ota...
I tried to permroot but failed...temproot worked just fine.
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Ok I was able to permroot mine you must be quick when you click permroot to press allow superuser permision.
I have a few questions not about the other options in the new visionary r12:
To be able to load custom ROMS etc which options do we need in visionary+ I assume we need the rw option, but what is the other option to run visionary.sh after root?
Also do we need to turn S-off? Just trying to get everything ready waiting on the recovery app.
So in the same way that the manual way wouldn't perm root my phone, neither does visionary r12. It just doesn't stick, period.
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So in the same way that the manual way wouldn't perm root my phone, neither does visionary r12. It just doesn't stick, period.
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When I did the manual way, I wasn't permrooted when I booted back up, I had to run visionary (the temporary one) one more time and rebooted and then I was permrooted.
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When I did the manual way, I wasn't permrooted when I booted back up, I had to run visionary (the temporary one) one more time and rebooted and then I was permrooted.
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So it's the same app but different options (temp root/perm root) correct?
And the manual method is required to get S-OFF so that we can flash a custom recovery, yes?
Just recapping to make sure I understand.
Phateless said:
So it's the same app but different options (temp root/perm root) correct?
And the manual method is required to get S-OFF so that we can flash a custom recovery, yes?
Just recapping to make sure I understand.
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Thats what I'm gathering..
From what I've read, even if we do achieve perm root with the app, we will still need to manually turn s-off to flash a custom recovery (and have it stick).
So my question is, does the permroot option (within visionary) even do anything for us MT4G guys? If we still need to go the manual ABD route to turn s-off, is the permroot option within Visionary just a short cut in the process to achieve s-off?
Everything seemed clear on what I was planning to do till the permaroot option lol
I tried this earlier and it is not a true root, s is still on after doing everything. If you still have to do other steps whats the point of visionary? Lol.
Has anyone actually gotten a true perm root with visionary with s=off? How did you do it?
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Arcadia310 said:
I tried this earlier and it is not a true root, s is still on after doing everything. If you still have to do other steps whats the point of visionary? Lol.
Has anyone actually gotten a true perm root with visionary with s=off? How did you do it?
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To get s=off you have to use the manual method.
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To get s=off you have to use the manual method.
My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
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IMHO, if people have to use tools like Visionary because they don't understand how to do it manually - they shouldn't root their phones. Visionary is a shortcut, not a substitute for knowledge. ADB is a must-have as well. I can't wait to see all cries for help once people start soft-bricking their phones because they cant read directions, don't know how to access ADB or, in general, don't know a singel linux command.
G1 forums were fairly decent until 1-click root was introduced and made it accessible for idiots to mod without having a slightest clue. I have a feeling MT4G forums are heading that way too.
Let the fun begin...
I've searched the forums, but can't get a real clear answer for me. Anyways, im rooted and have s off, but how do I know if I have the fake s off? And what does that mean? Also, what makes me void my warranty? Using the gfree method? What does gfree mean? If anyone is familiar, I followed the "blackprince" video on youtube to help me root. I just would like to be enlightened. Thank you!
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If I get an answer let me knower I'm wounding the same thing.
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PatrickHuey said:
I've searched the forums, but can't get a real clear answer for me. Anyways, im rooted and have s off, but how do I know if I have the fake s off? And what does that mean? Also, what makes me void my warranty? Using the gfree method? What does gfree mean? If anyone is familiar, I followed the "blackprince" video on youtube to help me root. I just would like to be enlightened. Thank you!
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If you only used the "blackprince" video, you do not have gfree root, which means radio s-off, you have a simulated s-off with an ENG Hboot, so your phone system is tricked into thinking you have a true perm root, so you have root but not a "true" permroot. Having radio S-off is a true perm root. Gfree gives you radio s-off. Here's a link to the HTC VIsion Wiki that explains what the diffrence between the two are and how to do gfree if you choose:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
To do gfree from the point you are at with your root you will start at this subsection in the above link "PERMAROOT (using "gfree" + "root")" "gfree version 0.02 and its options " and you will also need the gfree_02.zip file which is also in the link above.
You can do the gfree process over the root you now have and this will give you radio s-off and if you choose super CID and SIM unlock. The link above explains what these are.
As far as your warranty, you have already voided your warranty by rooting your phone (real root or not), in order to use your warranty you have to unroot your phone, back to complete stock settings, rom etc. There are guides on unrooting your phone, gonna have to do some searching for it but its all in this forum.
I guess I knew my warrantly was voided, but i just wanted to know what kind of root I had. Thanks a lot, you really cleared this up. If I were at my computer rather than my phone, I'd use the 'thanks' button.
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so i got the promotion to get a free g2 but heres a few questions im thinking that it will come with the latest rom can i root it ive been looking through a ton of guides and im confused what should i do. which method work to gain perma root
cudahy_boy said:
so i got the promotion to get a free g2 but heres a few questions im thinking that it will come with the latest rom can i root it ive been looking through a ton of guides and im confused what should i do. which method work to gain perma root
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It may come with the latest ROM but I more suspect that it will come with the original (shipped) ROM and immediately receive the OTA update. The good news is that there are no issues rooting even if you have the OTA applied (I think some of the rooting guides assume you do) so I would go ahead and apply the OTA if prompted. This is different than the Desire Z where the latest updates can make rooting more complicated.
The most widely recommended method of obtaining permanent root is the "gfree" method, it will permanently root your phone and at the same time will SIM unlock it as well as set the CID so you could load whatever carrier ROM you might want to.
The only issue most people seem to have with using the gfree method is getting ADB up and running and talking to your G2. Using ADB isn't (as far as I know) strictly necessary to make gfree work but it's easiest and all the guides (that I've seen) have you use ADB.
Here is the section of the wiki showing you how to use gfree to root your phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
For instructions for getting ADB up and running I would look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
Check out unlockr.com on rooting g2. They use the Visionary method. Took me only couple mins.
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Check out unlockr.com on rooting g2. They use the Visionary method. Took me only couple mins.
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Could you please stop telling people to use the VISIONary method!? That method has a risk of putting the user's phone into a boot loop! Please know you what your talking about before attempting to help some one, it can make the difference of bricking a phone and rooting a phone. Rage and GFree DOES NOT have a risk of putting your phone in a boot loop. Out of all the people that have messed up their phone, EVERY ONE of them that I have seen has used the VISIONary method. I'm not trying to be mean, but please be more careful when giving advice. I know your just trying to help, and I respect you for that but please do no tell some one to do the VISIONary method.
Sorry mate, I had no clue bout that. I had no loop but i see your point
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nevermind about my quesiton lol
Thanks for this question, it answered mine so I didn't have to ask. Will be using g-free way shortly.
Hello i want to root my HTC DZ so i can install a costom rom, but i'm not excactly sure if i have to downgrade my phone.
the phones build number is 182.405.1
Can i instal costom roms on my phone and what is the best app to use for rooting my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
have fun!
So i have to downgrade first since i have version 1.82 ?
Also i've read many articles and i came across something called VISIONary+ Can i root with this app or will i just screw up my phone?
well so far Q&A?
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So i have to downgrade first since i have version 1.82 ?
Also i've read many articles and i came across something called VISIONary+ Can i root with this app or will i just screw up my phone?
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yes, you are required to downgrade as only 1.34 is rootable at the moment.
you'll get 15 different opinions regarding whether or not visionary is safe, but the general consensus is that it is okay to use to obtain temp root, but very risky to try and perma-root with it.
oke i started downgrading but i'm getting an error "Main version is older update failed" what did i do wrong?
EDIT: Nvm what i did wrong was the usb setting it should be Charge only
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so did you get it to work just fine after downgrading ?
Using visionary is harmless. I constantly use it to root and unroot my g2. The method you may have come across could be slightly different than what I read so I would say compare similar facts between the two. I got my rooting info from here: http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/ . Theunlockr has video tutorials posted as well as text tutorial. So using this method should help majorly.
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Using visionary is harmless. I constantly use it to root and unroot my g2. The method you may have come across could be slightly different than what I read so I would say compare similar facts between the two. I got my rooting info from here: http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/ . Theunlockr has video tutorials posted as well as text tutorial. So using this method should help majorly.
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does visionary still temp root htc desire z 1.82.. ? wouldnt work for me when i last tried )=
I have seen the suggested threads for methods in rooting a G2.
Read some of them but I've noticed many of them are dated and I wanted to know if there is anything more recent that I can use to gain root access to my G2 (2.3.4)?
I later want to install a new ROM as well but for now I would like to know how to get root.
The method as described in the wiki Is the most reliable way of rooting, despite not being updated for a while or so. The above link describes rooting but it only works for Froyo, and as such you have to downgrade. You can follow this guide. Credits go to Setherio. Alternatively, you can use Strawmetal's guide, which is more inclusive but is essentially based off the above ones. It is more straightforward to follow and has everything pre-packaged. You can find it here. All credits go to Strawmetal.
Looks like those linked files for strawmetal's rooting guide no longer exist. Anyone have a mirror?
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Thanks for the reply and a great starting point.
I'll read over the links and try it out.
As far as I know, strawmetal is updating the pdf slightly, and should be posting it soon.
I am mirroring his packaged tools though, http://ratherphallic.co.cc/ROOT/platform-tools.7z
-Nipqer
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As far as I know, strawmetal is updating the pdf slightly, and should be posting it soon.
I am mirroring his packaged tools though, http://ratherphallic.co.cc/ROOT/platform-tools.7z
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Thanks for the mirror nipqer.
You can find the tools and guide to downgrade and root at this folder on minus
Im new to the G2 also. I came from Sprint and had the Epic 4g. Guess I was a bit spoiled with having the simple one click root methods or using Odin
Does this method below still work for temp root? Im on 2.3.4 currently. Or do all rooting methods involve downgrading now?
http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/
Thanks!
Don't use visionary unless your ok with bricking your phone. Just rooted my third g2 last night. First two went well no problems. Last night I had a ton of problems! But the good folks here on xda and freenode are always there to help, nipqer was my savior last night. (Last time I root a phone drunk) so follow the g2 xda wiki and you'll be fine
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Don't use visionary unless your ok with bricking your phone. Just rooted my third g2 last night. First two went well no problems. Last night I had a ton of problems! But the good folks here on xda and freenode are always there to help, nipqer was my savior last night. (Last time I root a phone drunk) so follow the g2 xda wiki and you'll be fine
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The visionary method I was reading up on I thought only bricks your phone if you try to perma-root the phone? As a temp root do you know if that way still works?
Otherwise the only way to root would be to downgrade first then use adb?
Temp root should be safe, but that won't get you too far. Its well worth rooting by downgrading and then exploiting to gain root via the method outlined in the wiki
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Temp root should be safe, but that won't get you too far. Its well worth rooting by downgrading and then exploiting to gain root via the method outlined in the wiki
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Thanks I will give the temp root a try first I was a bit intimidated by the other permanent method used for roms. I will eventually give that a try though.
One other question- on the Epic 4g I had a tool from Samsung, that pretty much no matter how bad I screwed the phone up with a bad flash or anything like that, it would always let me revert it back to stock. Is there anything like this for the G2?
Sort of, so long as you can boot backinto either hboot or recovery your fine, if you loose those then only jtag will fix your phone
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Temp rooting with visionary doesnt seem to work on 2.3.4
I will try the downgrade/adb route later tonight...
Visionary only works with Froyo. But please, do yourself a favor and stay away from it.
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