so i got the promotion to get a free g2 but heres a few questions im thinking that it will come with the latest rom can i root it ive been looking through a ton of guides and im confused what should i do. which method work to gain perma root
cudahy_boy said:
so i got the promotion to get a free g2 but heres a few questions im thinking that it will come with the latest rom can i root it ive been looking through a ton of guides and im confused what should i do. which method work to gain perma root
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It may come with the latest ROM but I more suspect that it will come with the original (shipped) ROM and immediately receive the OTA update. The good news is that there are no issues rooting even if you have the OTA applied (I think some of the rooting guides assume you do) so I would go ahead and apply the OTA if prompted. This is different than the Desire Z where the latest updates can make rooting more complicated.
The most widely recommended method of obtaining permanent root is the "gfree" method, it will permanently root your phone and at the same time will SIM unlock it as well as set the CID so you could load whatever carrier ROM you might want to.
The only issue most people seem to have with using the gfree method is getting ADB up and running and talking to your G2. Using ADB isn't (as far as I know) strictly necessary to make gfree work but it's easiest and all the guides (that I've seen) have you use ADB.
Here is the section of the wiki showing you how to use gfree to root your phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
For instructions for getting ADB up and running I would look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
Check out unlockr.com on rooting g2. They use the Visionary method. Took me only couple mins.
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GhostZini said:
Check out unlockr.com on rooting g2. They use the Visionary method. Took me only couple mins.
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Could you please stop telling people to use the VISIONary method!? That method has a risk of putting the user's phone into a boot loop! Please know you what your talking about before attempting to help some one, it can make the difference of bricking a phone and rooting a phone. Rage and GFree DOES NOT have a risk of putting your phone in a boot loop. Out of all the people that have messed up their phone, EVERY ONE of them that I have seen has used the VISIONary method. I'm not trying to be mean, but please be more careful when giving advice. I know your just trying to help, and I respect you for that but please do no tell some one to do the VISIONary method.
Sorry mate, I had no clue bout that. I had no loop but i see your point
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nevermind about my quesiton lol
Thanks for this question, it answered mine so I didn't have to ask. Will be using g-free way shortly.
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Okay I have a G2, just got it and I need to perm root it. I looked at the sticky guide but most of the links aren't loading for me, don't know why, either thread isn't there or link expired or w/e. I don't know, but I need some help.
First, how do I find out if I have 1.72 or an earlier version
Second, do I use "rage"? method or VISIONary and what's the latest version of visionary?
Third, about how long does the process take?
Any help is appreciated.
James_Caliber said:
Okay I have a G2, just got it and I need to perm root it. I looked at the sticky guide but most of the links aren't loading for me, don't know why, either thread isn't there or link expired or w/e. I don't know, but I need some help.
First, how do I find out if I have 1.72 or an earlier version
Second, do I use "rage"? method or VISIONary and what's the latest version of visionary?
Third, about how long does the process take?
Any help is appreciated.
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Every thing you need to know about rooting is in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision just start reading from Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD or you can read the whole page. Don't use VISIONary, you have a chance of getting stuck in a boot loop, use Rage and GFree. You'll need the android SDK to get ADB. I'm not sure how long rooting takes, I haven't done it yet as I don't have my G2 until next week but I have been reading about root for the past week. From what I know, 1.72 is only if you have a Desire Z. If you have any more questions, I'm sure me or another member can answer you.
KoolKidsKlub said:
Every thing you need to know about rooting is in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision just start reading from Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD or you can read the whole page. Don't use VISIONary, you have a chance of getting stuck in a boot loop, use Rage and GFree. You'll need the android SDK to get ADB. I'm not sure how long rooting takes, I haven't done it yet as I don't have my G2 until next week but I have been reading about root for the past week. From what I know, 1.72 is only if you have a Desire Z. If you have any more questions, I'm sure me or another member can answer you.
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Do you know what the 1.72 # refers to? Is it the build number or something else?
Thanks a lot for your help though. I'll start reading
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Do you know what the 1.72 # refers to? Is it the build number or something else?
Thanks a lot for your help though. I'll start reading
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If you have a Tmobile G2 (from your first post, I assume you do) you don't need to worry about 1.72 it for the Desire Z. There are three methods to root with, them being Visionary, Rage, gfree. Gfree by far has caused the least amount of problems. If you know ADB rooting should be pretty simple, just follow the wiki on rooting with gfree. If your not familiar with ADB, there are methods to root without having to use it. But its always good and recommended to have it installed and running. There are guide here to help walk you thru it, but if for some reason its to difficult or you don't quite understand it, like I said there are methods to root with out it. There is a modified way to run gfree with your home computer and terminal emulator on your phone. Also the visionary method too, now many people have had problems with visionary, I'm not one of them, it is how I rooted my phone, but I can't stress the importance of reading and putting the time into understanding what you are and want to do to modify your phone, far to many people act before understanding and run into many problems including bricking there phones, I know some of the threads are really long in this forum but that's no excuse, whenever I try something new I read the entire thread first start to finish because any problems you may have, the solution has probably already been givin somewhere in the thread. There is no rush to jump into something you don't understand, my suggestion is to invest the time to read and understand how to root you phone first.
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Even if you root using rage, you can still install and use gfree on your phone. I can confirm that it works.
Just stay away from Visionary.
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Even if you root using rage, you can still install and use gfree on your phone. I can confirm that it works.
Just stay away from Visionary.
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This.
This is my first Android phone and I was able to follow the Wiki and root it pretty easily. The only part I didnt do was installing the Engineering Hboot. Just cause it is labeled as optional and unnecessary and the warning about bricked phones scared me away from it.
This ADB Guide for Noobs was pretty helpful in the process too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
With that link and the Wiki your all set.
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This.
This is my first Android phone and I was able to follow the Wiki and root it pretty easily. The only part I didnt do was installing the Engineering Hboot. Just cause it is labeled as optional and unnecessary and the warning about bricked phones scared me away from it.
This ADB Guide for Noobs was pretty helpful in the process too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
With that link and the Wiki your all set.
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You're missing out with the engineering bootloader. You'll have more recovery options with it installed.
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You're missing out with the engineering bootloader. You'll have more recovery options with it installed.
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I might install it later on, if that is possible and wont cause issues.
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I might install it later on, if that is possible and wont cause issues.
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Yeah that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to root the phone then when I feel more comfortable, I'm going to flash the engineering HBOOT. It's not that I'm scared, well I sorta am but I would rather not do something that isn't necessary. I'm coming from a rooted G1 so I know what it does and everything, I just don't think its necessary. The way I look at is is this, if you flash the HBOOT then your a lot safer because you can use fastboot flash to save your self from a semi-brick, but at the same time, flashing the HBOOT is also dangerous because you can brick your phone beyond repair.
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Sorry guys, I know this is an old thread, but isn't it better to post on something existing rather than creating a new thread? Hopefully I'm right...
Anyhow, I'm a Sprint convert and I now have the G2. Rooting the Samsung Epic I had was super easy, because I downloaded a one-click script that did everything for me. However, I'm fairly tech-savvy and accomplished just about everything for the rooting procedures using gfree and rage.
However, when I use gfree_verify, I get the message 'verify could not initialize the device!'. I think I run into my problem when I get to this part:
# /data/local/tmp/root
# sync
when I run the first line, I get a message about file existing that it says to expect... but it also says that "the rest of the script should still run ok". Well, after I get the file existing message, it goes back to the prompt. If there was a script that ran after that message, wouldn't I see other messages before it returned to the prompt?
I hope I'm making sense... and I hope I posted this in the right place. I'm dying to get a Sense ROM on my phone, but I need to get some sleep for work tomorrow. Any help that everyone could provide would be EXTREMELY appreciated Thanks so much!!
...EDIT...
Apparently, despite my lack of luck with verification, root is in place in my phone and has stayed after reboot. I've flashed clockwork and have used Superuser access... all seems to be well! Thanks anyway
Hello i want to root my HTC DZ so i can install a costom rom, but i'm not excactly sure if i have to downgrade my phone.
the phones build number is 182.405.1
Can i instal costom roms on my phone and what is the best app to use for rooting my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
have fun!
So i have to downgrade first since i have version 1.82 ?
Also i've read many articles and i came across something called VISIONary+ Can i root with this app or will i just screw up my phone?
well so far Q&A?
johrie91 said:
So i have to downgrade first since i have version 1.82 ?
Also i've read many articles and i came across something called VISIONary+ Can i root with this app or will i just screw up my phone?
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yes, you are required to downgrade as only 1.34 is rootable at the moment.
you'll get 15 different opinions regarding whether or not visionary is safe, but the general consensus is that it is okay to use to obtain temp root, but very risky to try and perma-root with it.
oke i started downgrading but i'm getting an error "Main version is older update failed" what did i do wrong?
EDIT: Nvm what i did wrong was the usb setting it should be Charge only
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so did you get it to work just fine after downgrading ?
Using visionary is harmless. I constantly use it to root and unroot my g2. The method you may have come across could be slightly different than what I read so I would say compare similar facts between the two. I got my rooting info from here: http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/ . Theunlockr has video tutorials posted as well as text tutorial. So using this method should help majorly.
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Using visionary is harmless. I constantly use it to root and unroot my g2. The method you may have come across could be slightly different than what I read so I would say compare similar facts between the two. I got my rooting info from here: http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/ . Theunlockr has video tutorials posted as well as text tutorial. So using this method should help majorly.
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does visionary still temp root htc desire z 1.82.. ? wouldnt work for me when i last tried )=
Alright,
After I bricked my first HTC G2, I have decided to get another one. I was the lucky one which HTC replaced without any questions. My first phone got bricked because it had errors in the recovery. (this is what happened). OK NOW, I am getting ready to root my second G2 cause I am tired of the stock (really want the MIUI!)
I have a coupe of questions:
1. What are the necessary steps that I need to take so that my SECOND G2 wont go down like my first one?
2. What is Eng boot?
I am going to root it using the same guide I used last time (this one!)
Let me know, I am not going to attempt anything till I hear from you experts!
- Thank you so much!
First of all, visionary is a risky way to root your phone. The safest, though more intimidating way is using gfree and adb, as found on the cyanogenmod wiki (if someone would be kind enough to link him).
1. Read the steps. Read them again. And again. Be able to recite them in your sleep.
2. The engineering hboot (I believe) will allow you to possibly save your g2 if something goes wrong when flashing a rom. Though again there is a guarantee of bricking if this is done wrong. If you plan on just flashing miui and staying, this MAY not be necessary. But it is entirely up to you.
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Nospin said:
First of all, visionary is a risky way to root your phone. The safest, though more intimidating way is using gfree and adb, as found on the cyanogenmod wiki (if someone would be kind enough to link him).
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Do you think my recovery crashed because I used visionary? I have read that it is unsafe, but it was just so easy to do with that method.
Flyingpilot said:
Do you think my recovery crashed because I used visionary? I have read that it is unsafe, but it was just so easy to do with that method.
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Im pretty sure that it wasn't visionary. If I'm not mistaken visionary works perfectly fine for temproot, permrooting with it is when it is risky. I also rooted with the method above and nothing has happened to my G2
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So I've recently gotten my Desire Z rooted, and I'm trying to install a custom ROM.
However Clockwork keeps telling me that my phone is not rooted, ("You must root your phone for ROM Manager to function. Superuser was not found at "/system/bin/su" or "/system/xbin/su"".
Even so my phone has SU installed as well as busybox. How do I need to go about fixing this?
Thank you for any help!
first of all what method did you follow to gain root?
also do any other rooted apps work? setcpu, titanium, adfree ?
I used the HTCdev method to unlock my bootloader then I used the Fre3vo exploit and pushed the superuser and busybox apks and installed them both.
Titanium does not work either.
I believe in order to get the su to work you have to actually flash it as a .zip the first time. Also, do you have s.off? That htcdev.com method is horse crap if you ask me, though it will get you unlocked.
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It managed to get my bootloader unlocked.
But no I don't have S-off. Would having flashed it from a .zip changed anything else?
Also I can flash ClockWorkRecovery without even a little bit of an Issue.
well s-off means no root, follow the wiki, downgrade and then root.
the htc unlocked bootloader is just a stepping stone leading to nowhere
probably the most you will get out of it is confirming your g2 is void of warranty with htc
so follow the wiki, it isnt to hard and you will be much happier than trying to cheat your way into root!
good luck!
Alright, well thanks for your help fellas!
no problem, just make sure you read the wiki first and understand it, if not search the threads and im sure someone has had the same question. but over all it takes from 30min for the experienced up to 2hrs if your lost the whole time. leave the appropriate amount of time and youll be a happy camper soon enough!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453066
This is the thread you need to follow if you have already used htcdev method. You will have to relock bootloader, then downgrade, then root and s.off.
Also, if you have any further problems talk to that nipqer, he is really good.
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mrbmg said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453066
This is the thread you need to follow if you have already used htcdev method. You will have to relock bootloader, then downgrade, then root and s.off.
Also, if you have any further problems talk to that nipqer, he is really good.
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This was the guide I followed and it just seems to be against me!
EDIT: Never mind! Finally got it to work! I now have custom ROMs again! Thanks for all the help!
If you join that irc channel, all those guys are on there and will walk you through it step by step.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
follow this guide, since you have "the official HTC unlocked bootloader" which as i said before is almost worthless (not complaining to you but to htc) i believe you need to do a few things first before you can downgrade, you need to be at froyo for this method to work, dont have time to search for you right now but im sure you'll find the appropriate steps to take if you search a little
HTC Unlock only lets you flash ROMs through fastboot. As already mentioned, it doesn't give you root, S-Off, and you can't flash straight from ROM Manager or recovery.
I have seen the suggested threads for methods in rooting a G2.
Read some of them but I've noticed many of them are dated and I wanted to know if there is anything more recent that I can use to gain root access to my G2 (2.3.4)?
I later want to install a new ROM as well but for now I would like to know how to get root.
The method as described in the wiki Is the most reliable way of rooting, despite not being updated for a while or so. The above link describes rooting but it only works for Froyo, and as such you have to downgrade. You can follow this guide. Credits go to Setherio. Alternatively, you can use Strawmetal's guide, which is more inclusive but is essentially based off the above ones. It is more straightforward to follow and has everything pre-packaged. You can find it here. All credits go to Strawmetal.
Looks like those linked files for strawmetal's rooting guide no longer exist. Anyone have a mirror?
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Thanks for the reply and a great starting point.
I'll read over the links and try it out.
As far as I know, strawmetal is updating the pdf slightly, and should be posting it soon.
I am mirroring his packaged tools though, http://ratherphallic.co.cc/ROOT/platform-tools.7z
-Nipqer
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As far as I know, strawmetal is updating the pdf slightly, and should be posting it soon.
I am mirroring his packaged tools though, http://ratherphallic.co.cc/ROOT/platform-tools.7z
-Nipqer
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Thanks for the mirror nipqer.
You can find the tools and guide to downgrade and root at this folder on minus
Im new to the G2 also. I came from Sprint and had the Epic 4g. Guess I was a bit spoiled with having the simple one click root methods or using Odin
Does this method below still work for temp root? Im on 2.3.4 currently. Or do all rooting methods involve downgrading now?
http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/
Thanks!
Don't use visionary unless your ok with bricking your phone. Just rooted my third g2 last night. First two went well no problems. Last night I had a ton of problems! But the good folks here on xda and freenode are always there to help, nipqer was my savior last night. (Last time I root a phone drunk) so follow the g2 xda wiki and you'll be fine
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demkantor said:
Don't use visionary unless your ok with bricking your phone. Just rooted my third g2 last night. First two went well no problems. Last night I had a ton of problems! But the good folks here on xda and freenode are always there to help, nipqer was my savior last night. (Last time I root a phone drunk) so follow the g2 xda wiki and you'll be fine
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The visionary method I was reading up on I thought only bricks your phone if you try to perma-root the phone? As a temp root do you know if that way still works?
Otherwise the only way to root would be to downgrade first then use adb?
Temp root should be safe, but that won't get you too far. Its well worth rooting by downgrading and then exploiting to gain root via the method outlined in the wiki
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demkantor said:
Temp root should be safe, but that won't get you too far. Its well worth rooting by downgrading and then exploiting to gain root via the method outlined in the wiki
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Thanks I will give the temp root a try first I was a bit intimidated by the other permanent method used for roms. I will eventually give that a try though.
One other question- on the Epic 4g I had a tool from Samsung, that pretty much no matter how bad I screwed the phone up with a bad flash or anything like that, it would always let me revert it back to stock. Is there anything like this for the G2?
Sort of, so long as you can boot backinto either hboot or recovery your fine, if you loose those then only jtag will fix your phone
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Temp rooting with visionary doesnt seem to work on 2.3.4
I will try the downgrade/adb route later tonight...
Visionary only works with Froyo. But please, do yourself a favor and stay away from it.
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