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Quality check - for current owners??

http://stuff.tv/news/HTC-Desire-fails-T-Mobile-quality-checks-store-availability-delayed/14293/
Could this be for current owners as well?

Slightly worrying as I've got one from T-Mobile. Couple of things keeping me from being too worried:
1. I haven't noticed anything awry yet
2. If there is a glitch, it seems to be software based, so flashing the phone with/when the generic HTC ROM is officially publicy available (which I intended to do, anyway) should fix it.

load of bull because its available in shops now

I think it's likely that we've got phones with bugs and will get OTA update soon.

i wonder what about the unlocked and unbranded phones from mobiles.co.uk ?
maybe they had the t-mob versions and just unlocked them ?

Karolis said:
I think it's likely that we've got phones with bugs and will get OTA update soon.
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Maybe so. lets wait and see. if its a software bug, i can live with that as it can get rooted/updated but if its a hardware issue.
well were ****ed then

My only grief until now is the absence of the voice-to-text facility. HTC have specifically mentioned this on desirehtc.com -> Android. They mention that "Rather excitingly, it brings us into a realm where voice-to-text is a reality in all text fields. Imagine sending texts or emails simply by talking to your phone. Now do it, we're there." How the t-mobile desire version did not get it is beyond me at the moment.

I find it strange that they only included the HTC Touch keyboard and removed the standard Android one. I ran both on my G1 and it was each to switch input methods with a simple long hold in a text entry field.

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Can't say I have seen anyone complaining of any problems yet.
Can't be that serious can it!
If it's a software problem it will soon be fixed. If it's a hardware problem I guess we will have our phones replaced.
I wouldn't worry about it. I would rather have the phone now with the seemingly trivial problem.
I flashed the Generic ROM anyway but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not possible to revert to the T-mobile ROM if you need to.

chris.semple said:
I find it strange that they only included the HTC Touch keyboard and removed the standard Android one. I ran both on my G1 and it was each to switch input methods with a simple long hold in a text entry field.
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a custom rom should fix that

update available 1.21.405.2

I just tried to check for updates for my desire (unrooted) and I saw that I can update to 1.21.405.2.
UPDATE:
It seems that the update is only available for the EU unbranded roms.
Changes reported:
- Updates bootloader to 0.80
- New radio image
- New youtube app with HQ option (1.6.20E).
- Fixed htc's weather widget (integrated into clock&weather widget) not knowing where you are (1.15.xxx just said the name of the country in some countries).
- SMS issue (from non-numerical senders) is resolved.
- fixed random contact showing when receiving operator SMS.
- fixes the voicemail bug for the French carrier SFR (short voicemail number used to call 911/emergency).
- Messages app now shows a count on the number of messages in the SMS inbox.
- calendar/contacts bug - unable to store contact's birthday - has been fixed.
- Long click on the menu button when in home screen now doesnt pop up the keyboard, like it uselessly did before.
- SMS reader does not show the little smiley androids any more - just the mere types.
- Exchange Company Address Book is now properly working. Was unable to use before the update.
- They have disabled the snooze function on the Optical trackpad for calendar events. This means that it is now possible to have the phone in your pocket without accidentally snoozing the alarms.
Known issues:
- OTA update on debranded/rooted roms resolves in wifi not working - debranded may be specific for orange.
- Doesnt fully charge for the first couple of times, probably a calibiration thing, it's ok after 3-5 charges.

OOO thats new I checked this morning and it wasn't there.
this is an up date for HTC Applications, well thats what it says.
27.2 mb can't be a big deal.

I'm on it now, seems fine...the MCR custom ROMs are based on it but I got bored of them so went stock

Updating to 1.21.405.2 changes your bootloader to 0.80 and currently it is unavailable to downgrade back to 0.75.
This means that if you ever want to run an RUU to revert back to stock you won't be able to since that requires a 0.75 bootloader.

You can get the stock 1.21.405.2 ROM from my sig so you can go back whenever needed...you just cant go back to 1.15.405.4

well atleast this shows progress at the HTC camp. Real question is whether this is it, or is it work around the 2.2 update?

Where can i find what differneces are on this update.

Can i still root my desire if i want to after this update?

diablous said:
well atleast this shows progress at the HTC camp. Real question is whether this is it, or is it work around the 2.2 update?
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This rom has been out for quite some time now. Small little patches are hardly anything compared to moving up an entire OS revision.
Orka82 said:
Can i still root my desire if i want to after this update?
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Yes but you'll need to use the 0.80 method.

abc27 said:
This rom has been out for quite some time now.
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How long is that? If this is how long it takes HTC to port their UI onto a new build of the SAME OS it's not looking good.

It was posted in ROM Dev about 3 weeks ago now, maybe longer...
EDIT: 19th May

Wonder if O2 users will get an update.. I'm feeling left out

Im on o2, too. Hope they will get this update soon.
Not that its a big thing... but it would make me feel optimistic for future updates (2.2?) if theyd get this done quickly...

the O2 Desire is pretty much brand new so won't have an update yet - it's going to be HTC bringing the other units up to speed...

so what is this update???? Anyone

dexteral said:
so what is this update???? Anyone
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Minor fixes. New radio image. New youtube app with HQ option (with a widget that doesn't work if you're logged in to your account). New bootloader. Fixed Facebook/unknown contact issue (haven't verified this personally).
I flashed the rom from the dev forum a couple of days ago, but haven't noticed any other changes yet.
The news widget still doesn't update automatically.

tuatha said:
Minor fixes. New radio image. New youtube app with HQ option (with a widget that doesn't work if you're logged in to your account). New bootloader. Fixed Facebook/unknown contact issue (haven't verified this personally).
I flashed the rom from the dev forum a couple of days ago, but haven't noticed any other changes yet.
The news widget still doesn't update automatically.
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thanks hope froyo's next..
edit: i think speaker is also louder ... though it may just be me

I get the HQ option in the Youtube app when logged in to my account

Ah well...that will teach me to be fast.
Updated via 3G at work. Got home and just realised my Wifi no longer works. Refuses to start after the update. Tried several reboots...nothing.
It doesn't even TRY to start, as soon as you select the check box to enable Wifi it instantly says "Unable to start Wi-Fi"
This sucks.

Re: updating to 1.21.405.2, should I?
Just updated, and I can now see Google earth in the market place, perhaps just simple coincidence
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3g data problems

Sometimes - especially after a long time in a building in central london with inexplicably poor 3d reception - my phone just refuses to connect to 3g even when in a strong 3g area. I try turning the mobile connectivity off/on and this very rarely does the trick; more often it either does nothing, or doesn't even complete. It just sits there saying `connecting`. If I turn my phone off and on again then reception is restored. My phone is fine in all other respects (wifi is very fast), and the data does work fine most of the time.
Does anyone else have this problem? Is it just orange? Is there some other way of getting the resetting functionality of turning it off and on without actually doing so?

Orange UK handset? Lots of threads on this already...
Of the various mods I've read about, changing the preferred network type has had the best results. My phone is usable again.
Dial *#*#4636#*#*
Change the network type to GSM auto (PRL)
Upgrading your radio version is the next step and is something I intend to do eventually... the phone needs unlocking first. The above method has made my phone usable in the mean time.

bedeabc said:
Orange UK handset? Lots of threads on this already...
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Yeah, I read a lot of them. None of them make any difference for me.
bedeabc said:
Of the various mods I've read about, changing the preferred network type has had the best results. My phone is usable again.
Dial *#*#4636#*#*
Change the network type to GSM auto (PRL)
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Like this one, for example.
bedeabc said:
Upgrading your radio version is the next step and is something I intend to do eventually... the phone needs unlocking first. The above method has made my phone usable in the mean time.
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I've no interest in unlocking or flashing my phone. I just want to use the internet on my phone. Apparently this is a problem on the Desire.

Assuming you're on Orange? You didn't say.
They've got their branded 1.21 OTA update in the pipeline that will almost certainly include a radio update that many have reported improves signal and 3G/HSDPA pickup.
If you want that now, you can flash to a generic 1.21 ROM using a goldcard. You'll need to buy an unlock code for around £15.
You can either wait for Orange to release the update (keeping your warranty), Or go get it yourself now. Woth bearing in mind that you'll get Froyo faster if you get a generic ROM...

bedeabc said:
Assuming you're on Orange? You didn't say.
They've got their branded 1.21 OTA update in the pipeline that will almost certainly include a radio update that many have reported improves signal and 3G/HSDPA pickup.
If you want that now, you can flash to a generic 1.21 ROM using a goldcard. You'll need to buy an unlock code for around £15.
You can either wait for Orange to release the update (keeping your warranty), Or go get it yourself now. Woth bearing in mind that you'll get Froyo faster if you get a generic ROM...
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Yeah, I'm on Orange UK. I like the idea of generic roms, but I'm sort of put off by all the reports of people bricking their phones. Also, I'm used to HTC's sense UI. By all accounts the standard Android interface is a little dull. It's actually the HTC widgets I'd probably miss most, though. I guess it depends on exactly what is in 2.2, really. Functionality is more important to me than a wizzy front end, and Orange have made something of a mess of 2.1 on the Desire (breaking reflow on the browser, removing google talk but leaving the service running, putting loads of crap on like facebook which you can't remove and which gives me a daily reminder that there are updates available which i don't want and can't disable).

poldie said:
Yeah, I'm on Orange UK. I like the idea of generic roms, but I'm sort of put off by all the reports of people bricking their phones. Also, I'm used to HTC's sense UI. By all accounts the standard Android interface is a little dull. It's actually the HTC widgets I'd probably miss most, though. I guess it depends on exactly what is in 2.2, really. Functionality is more important to me than a wizzy front end, and Orange have made something of a mess of 2.1 on the Desire (breaking reflow on the browser, removing google talk but leaving the service running, putting loads of crap on like facebook which you can't remove and which gives me a daily reminder that there are updates available which i don't want and can't disable).
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Why not flash a custom ROM like Pays Desire Sense: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674688
It's not Froyo but it's a great 2.1 ROM that will get rid of all the annoying **** from the Orange/Generic ROM and adding some nice new stuff, all while keeping Sense and all the HTC UI stuff.
I had the problem with the data connection as well but it's fixed now I flashed the radio after unlocking. You can get an unlock code for £10 and it's actually an investment in terms of resell value for the phone, plus of course you can then use whatever radio you want rather than waiting on Orange OTA updates.
You can always reflash to Orange stock if you ever have any warranty issues.
It can seem a bit daunting at first if you are not used to flashing ROM's but as long as you can follow a handful of well documented step by step instructions that are given it's easy, and there is so much to be gained.
Don't put up with what you don't like when there are relatively easy fixes.

Speech-to-text problem in new OTA 4.24??

Has anyone noticed that in the new OTA 4.24 that the speech-to-text function has become worthless/unusable? Worked fine in Froyo, but now speech-to-text is borked in GB????!!?!?! Has anyone found a fix?
Let me clarify. I'm using essentially the stock OTA rooted and deodexed. Perhaps the trouble came with the deodexing, I am unsure. Anyone running a 4.24 based deodexed ROM having trouble? You hit the mic icon, speak, and it basically acts like it didn't pick up any sound.

Ive been on the OTA since it came out and I have had no problems with this function. I use it frequently to send text messages should I happen to be driving. With the exception of the occasional misunderstood word, i never have problems. I use it to search the web, to navigate, all without consequence.
Perhaps rather than bashing the entirety of this function and assuming there is a fix for something that may only be your problem or your configuration, you could provide us with some examples of what youre trying to accomplish/say and what the end result is?

usafmaverick said:
Ive been on the OTA since it came out and I have had no problems with this function. I use it frequently to send text messages should I happen to be driving. With the exception of the occasional misunderstood word, i never have problems. I use it to search the web, to navigate, all without consequence.
Perhaps rather than bashing the entirety of this function and assuming there is a fix for something that may only be your problem or your configuration, you could provide us with some examples of what youre trying to accomplish/say and what the end result is?
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Ha...this is hilarius...a Junior member with 14 posts is trying to school a Recognized Develepor. I am pretty sure he doesn't have a config issue. I have had the same issue myself but only while driving, really wierd.

Steely man how are ya!
I have also not had any speech to text issues and I am completely unrooted s on and all. No wayback home yet...
does it always not work or only in some applications.
"This works written by voice to text"
Hehe
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tommytomatoe said:
Steely man how are ya!
I have also not had any speech to text issues and I am completely unrooted s on and all. No wayback home yet...
does it always not work or only in some applications.
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It doesn't work for **** in any application. You hit the microphone and the pop-up windows comes up as normal and says speak now, but unless you literally yell at the phone it doesn't pick up anything.

I had an issue with no speech to text on the previous version of Fresh, finally updated to the 4.2 today and the problem went away.
Dunno.

the 14 post guy does have a valid point. The amount of posts you have on this forum mean NOTHING on how smart you are. lol. sorry guys. but it is true. for example, just because someone has worked for IBM for 20 years doesn't make him knowledgeable on any part of IBM. Just means someone was stupid enough to pay him for 20 years. lol
But need exact examples of exactly what's going on. Maybe when you trained your phone, it lost those settings after the update? retrain it.
REMEMBER EVERYONE, if you're saying "offensive" words on it, by default it blocks it.
If the personalized recognition is unchecked, then the settings didn't carry over from one to another. WHICH GUESS WHAT! THEY DIDN'T! HAHAHA. checking mine now, and all the settings didn't stick. also, the training for the skype didn't make it over too which has been messing up my writing on this phone.

runcool said:
the 14 post guy does have a valid point. The amount of posts you have on this forum mean NOTHING on how smart you are. lol. sorry guys. but it is true. for example, just because someone has worked for IBM for 20 years doesn't make him knowledgeable on any part of IBM. Just means someone was stupid enough to pay him for 20 years. lol
But need exact examples of exactly what's going on. Maybe when you trained your phone, it lost those settings after the update? retrain it.
REMEMBER EVERYONE, if you're saying "offensive" words on it, by default it blocks it.
If the personalized recognition is unchecked, then the settings didn't carry over from one to another. WHICH GUESS WHAT! THEY DIDN'T! HAHAHA. checking mine now, and all the settings didn't stick. also, the training for the skype didn't make it over too which has been messing up my writing on this phone.
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Thanks, but I'm not a dumbass. Perhaps you should look at the threads I've created before providing any further commentary.
I don't see anywhere in this thread where I had a problem with 'training' 'offensive words' or any other 'settings' as you have mentioned. Please read more carefully in the future and refrain from posting unless you have an answer to the question posed.

Mine works if there is no back ground noise but if there is the slightest noise forget it it just says no voice heard my wife also has the same problem. But with here Russian accent it never gets the words right anyway. At least I know I'm not the only one.
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I seem to only have problem while using it in my messenger app. That being said, I am using Swype and just chalked up my problems to using that keyboard because it works fine with the voice search app?

pennie77 said:
Mine works if there is no back ground noise but if there is the slightest noise forget it it just says no voice heard my wife also has the same problem. But with here Russian accent it never gets the words right anyway. At least I know I'm not the only one.
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Exactly the problem, it acts like it doesn't pick up any speech at all.

If you have this problem and have found a solution, please PM me.
This thread is now closed to prevent noobs, trolls, and flamers from clogging it up.
If a solution is found, I will post it.

My defy is gone to meet his maker

Well, I thought I'd let you guys know, my defy went to the official motorola service, now, before someone starts posting "room full of people who cares" pics, I'll tell you what where it's symptoms and maybe you can tell me if any had any similar issues.
A little background:
I'm in Argentina, and I got my defy from "Personal" ( that's the carrier) which has a 2.2.1 rom ( if I'm not wrong )
I used it for a bit and it was working so well that I didn't feel the need to mess with it.
Then, I started missing some stuff and I decided to install CM7 (rc1, v2), to see how it performed.
All good, for a while, but then, the following started happening:
- 5~8 times out of ten, sms's wouldn't go out ( and I had to re-send them until they did )
- I got delays on getting messages, and on other people receiving them.
- Sometimes I wouldn't get to answer a call, just got a "missed call notification SMS"
- Sometimes calls would drop when answering them
- FM radio started being CRAP, and getting either stuck on, or wouldn't turn on after being interrupted by other notifications.
- frecuent freezing .
I guessed it was CM7, so, deceided to get back to stock, and maybe rooting, just for kicks.
I went back to stock, but the problems kept happening.
And that's why I sent it to service.
Anyone got any similar issues?

I wounder if you had forgot ‘full wipe’?

This sounds like an intermittent connection somewhere in the phone hardware.

davenaughty said:
I wounder if you had forgot ‘full wipe’?
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lol, of course I did wipe, I didn't got into GREAT detail of everything i did because it would be WAY to boring, but, I did tried a lot of stuff before sending it back.
I kind of know my way around android, but I don't blame you for asking, I've seen a lot of uninformed posts around here ( nothing wrong with that, not everyone has time, the patience, or the interest to spend HOURS figuring stuff out, and learning about android )
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This sounds like an intermittent connection somewhere in the phone hardware.
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Yup, I also thought it could be either a SEVERE overage problem ( like a signal black hole in my apartment) , or a defective sim card , but I'm using my old HTC G1 for now, and it's working great, so, both of those are out.

Maybe ,your phone’s baceband does not fit for the sevice,download some app to change the baseband.
Many peope have the same problem reflected by forum in my conutry as far as i know. Most of them solve the problem by changing baceband.
(My english is so bad...but I really want to help you.)

davenaughty said:
Maybe ,your phone’s baceband does not fit for the sevice,download some app to change the baseband.
Many peope have the same problem reflected by forum in my conutry as far as i know. Most of them solve the problem by changing baceband.
(My english is so bad...but I really want to help you.)
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If the baseband was incorrect, it wouldn't get signal at all.
Plus, the phone was bought in argentina, so the argentina stock rom for the carrier HAS the right baseband, and I still got issues.
I have no other explanation for it than faulty hardware.
Thanks, though, I know you're trying to help ; )