Quality check - for current owners?? - Desire General

http://stuff.tv/news/HTC-Desire-fails-T-Mobile-quality-checks-store-availability-delayed/14293/
Could this be for current owners as well?

Slightly worrying as I've got one from T-Mobile. Couple of things keeping me from being too worried:
1. I haven't noticed anything awry yet
2. If there is a glitch, it seems to be software based, so flashing the phone with/when the generic HTC ROM is officially publicy available (which I intended to do, anyway) should fix it.

load of bull because its available in shops now

I think it's likely that we've got phones with bugs and will get OTA update soon.

i wonder what about the unlocked and unbranded phones from mobiles.co.uk ?
maybe they had the t-mob versions and just unlocked them ?

Karolis said:
I think it's likely that we've got phones with bugs and will get OTA update soon.
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Maybe so. lets wait and see. if its a software bug, i can live with that as it can get rooted/updated but if its a hardware issue.
well were ****ed then

My only grief until now is the absence of the voice-to-text facility. HTC have specifically mentioned this on desirehtc.com -> Android. They mention that "Rather excitingly, it brings us into a realm where voice-to-text is a reality in all text fields. Imagine sending texts or emails simply by talking to your phone. Now do it, we're there." How the t-mobile desire version did not get it is beyond me at the moment.

I find it strange that they only included the HTC Touch keyboard and removed the standard Android one. I ran both on my G1 and it was each to switch input methods with a simple long hold in a text entry field.

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Can't say I have seen anyone complaining of any problems yet.
Can't be that serious can it!
If it's a software problem it will soon be fixed. If it's a hardware problem I guess we will have our phones replaced.
I wouldn't worry about it. I would rather have the phone now with the seemingly trivial problem.
I flashed the Generic ROM anyway but I wouldn't recommend it as it's not possible to revert to the T-mobile ROM if you need to.

chris.semple said:
I find it strange that they only included the HTC Touch keyboard and removed the standard Android one. I ran both on my G1 and it was each to switch input methods with a simple long hold in a text entry field.
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a custom rom should fix that

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New, official, NOR rom

However, it seems that HTC is its normal reliable self at providing urls to their own firmwares. The file is named RUU_Diamond_HTC_NOR_1.93.409.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship.exe, but the url provided by the members.htc.com service is mangled. Has anybody successfully downloaded this?
//Svein
I have the same problems, so i called HTC in norway, they didn't know about it (she actually didn't think it was released yet (way to go HTC)) but they are looking into it now, so hopefully it will be fixed soon (btw the date is a typo.. it should be 7/30/2008, not 6/30/2008 (confirmed by HTC))
Great, let's hope they'll fix it ...a lot of us having this problem
The NOR Version is now available at HTC Europe site.
Anyone that can post this firmware. My serial does not match in HTC's database in Europe as I got mine from China.
http://rapidshare.com/files/133796972/RUU_Diamond_HTC_NOR_1.93.409.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship.exe.html
installed and working great
brumle80 said:
http://rapidshare.com/files/133796972/RUU_Diamond_HTC_NOR_1.93.409.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship.exe.html
installed and working great
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Is it fast?
feels a lot more responsive and faster than the original rom
only thing I have to change somehow is that they changed the contacts button to video call in the phone Dialer...
It may be a problem related to my handset, but the morning after upgrading, the telephone suddenly refused to connect to the (telenor) network. Simcard in my old samsung works.
//Svein
Weird. Force-flashing it with radio 1.02.25.11 cured it.
//Svein

Why are Cooked ROMs so much more stable than Official ROMs

I have been using cooked ROMs for so long now that I can't even remember. Only very recently have I been forced to use official ROMs becuase of unavailability of HardSPLs.
I have only had this issue with two devices the Touch Pro2 and Imagio but i'm pretty sure that it happens with other models also.
Error examples:
'a problem has occurred with fexplorer.exe'
'a problem has occurred with services.exe'
I am a flash freek and every time I load about 100+ games and about 150+ applications so before everyone starts saying that when you load so many softwares something bad is bound to happen. I have already considered that but here is why i thing the problem is with official ROMs.
- I flashed official ROM and hard reset
- I first left out all the games and only installed the applications but the problem was still there.
- I then split the applications in half and after another hard reset tried with first batch and problem was there. I hard reset and also tried the second batch and problem was there.
- I am not so desperate an i am installing softwares one at a time and then testing for 10-15 mins and then installing the next software to pinpoint the problem.
even with the last approach I cannot pinpoint which software is causing the problem. Sometimes the phone crashes after 10 applications installed and sometimes after I reach 40 applications.
Now some of you will ask and suggest if maybe the problem is with the softwares. Most of the softwares I have are from freewarepocketpc.net but how can it be the software when all these softwares are the same ones that I have been using without any issues on Cooked ROMs for months and not a single crash on the Cooked ROMs.
I have been scratching my head and trying to figure out what is that secret ingredient in the Cooked ROMs that make them so stable and what can we do to make our official ROMs stable.
At one point I though Microsoft .NET Compact Framework was the culprit and so I tired several times with and without it installed and the problem was still there so I ruled it out.
I also tried installing SDK certs on the official ROM but that did'nt fix it either.
Help me out here guys, what am I missing, whats that Secret Ingredient in the cooked ROMs that make them so stable?
Fairy dust, us cooks sprinkle a little over the rom in the building process and it makes them super stable.
Personally I have never had those two errors on a stock rom. Might I ask which brand of those phones are you using? (aka, is it an AT&T, Telstra, Verizon, etc.) Sometimes (make that 99% of the time) the carrier's version of a rom is THE WORST there can be, causing problems like that.
With that note out of the way, you have tried using it without installing anything for a bit to see if the problem still persists right? If not, it could be one, or more likely more than one application is causing it to die.
the secret words for tonight are
"disable error reporting in your ROM"
most of cooks use this secret weapon.
=)
shadowline said:
Personally I have never had those two errors on a stock rom. Might I ask which brand of those phones are you using? (aka, is it an AT&T, Telstra, Verizon, etc.) Sometimes (make that 99% of the time) the carrier's version of a rom is THE WORST there can be, causing problems like that.
With that note out of the way, you have tried using it without installing anything for a bit to see if the problem still persists right? If not, it could be one, or more likely more than one application is causing it to die.
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For Verizon Imagio i've used the official shipped ROM
I also had the same problem on the T-Mobile Touch Pro2 with its shipped WM6.1 ROM and once the HardSPL came out, i tried with the European Pro2 WM6.5 Official ROM and that also had same problem.
Yes I tried using the ROMs without any softwares and they work just fine. So that brings me to the conclusion that the softwares that I am installing are causing this but the problem is how to pinpoint which softwares and if it turns out that a wide variety of softwares are causing this (my suspicion) then why is it happening only with official ROMs and not cooked ones?
serfer222 said:
the secret words for tonight are
"disable error reporting in your ROM"
most of cooks use this secret weapon.
=)
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Does this mean that windows mobile is so unstable that the only way to fix it is to give an illusion of stability by disabling the error reporting?
Say it isn't so, I love WM and if things are so bad with it then I have nowhere else to go.
serfer222 said:
the secret words for tonight are
"disable error reporting in your ROM"
most of cooks use this secret weapon.
=)
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We have a winner!
Thanks
serfer222 said:
the secret words for tonight are
"disable error reporting in your ROM"
most of cooks use this secret weapon.
=)
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After thinking about it a few minutes I get it now. I am shocked that I spent over week testing hundreds of softwares one by one when I could have just disabled the reporting. Thanks for the secret ingredient, i'll give it a go and report back in 1-2 days how my ROM is responding. I can already notice a slight increase in speed.
I know this is blashphemy on XDA, but I have the opposite issue. I've never encountered a cooked ROM as bug free as a stock ROM. Maybe this is b/c I've never bought a carrier phone and always gone for the unbranded, unlocked device, so I've had a clean stock rom to start off with... But with every cooked ROM I've tried (and to be fair, I don't flash regularly like I used to - so maybe things are getting better), there's always something wrong even if its a minute detail like text out of place on some screen hidden away in settings that most users don't find, or lost functionality of special buttons in oem programs like Opera (that most XDAers don't know about b/c they flash the first day they get the device), or lack of proper support for landscape, or improper bluetooth implementations where A2DP doesn't work like it used to, etc.
sonus said:
I know this is blashphemy on XDA, but I have the opposite issue. I've never encountered a cooked ROM as bug free as a stable ROM. Maybe this is b/c I've never bought a carrier phone and always gone for the unbranded, unlocked device, so I've had a clean stock rom to start off with... But with every cooked ROM I've tried (and to be fair, I don't flash regularly like I used to - so maybe things are getting better), there's always something wrong even if its a minute detail like text out of place on some screen hidden away in settings that most users don't find, or lost functionality of special buttons in oem programs like Opera (that most XDAers don't know about b/c they flash the first day they get the device), or lack of proper support for landscape, or improper bluetooth implementations where A2DP doesn't work like it used to, etc.
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I think a lot of cooks are very short-sighted on these issues. I have a habit of testing every button, every program and every feature multiple times before a ROM goes out the door, and I still miss things. Many of the factory ROM's I've used are bad in this regard as well (my Fuze connecting to a secured WiFi network for one). Cutting off the error reporting doesn't really do that much, but I've had crashes before where I had to turn it on to find a bug that was stopping the ROM from working.
Dizzy looking at ...
Man, I got dizzy by looking at your avatar.
Everyone says that.

3g data problems

Sometimes - especially after a long time in a building in central london with inexplicably poor 3d reception - my phone just refuses to connect to 3g even when in a strong 3g area. I try turning the mobile connectivity off/on and this very rarely does the trick; more often it either does nothing, or doesn't even complete. It just sits there saying `connecting`. If I turn my phone off and on again then reception is restored. My phone is fine in all other respects (wifi is very fast), and the data does work fine most of the time.
Does anyone else have this problem? Is it just orange? Is there some other way of getting the resetting functionality of turning it off and on without actually doing so?
Orange UK handset? Lots of threads on this already...
Of the various mods I've read about, changing the preferred network type has had the best results. My phone is usable again.
Dial *#*#4636#*#*
Change the network type to GSM auto (PRL)
Upgrading your radio version is the next step and is something I intend to do eventually... the phone needs unlocking first. The above method has made my phone usable in the mean time.
bedeabc said:
Orange UK handset? Lots of threads on this already...
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Yeah, I read a lot of them. None of them make any difference for me.
bedeabc said:
Of the various mods I've read about, changing the preferred network type has had the best results. My phone is usable again.
Dial *#*#4636#*#*
Change the network type to GSM auto (PRL)
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Like this one, for example.
bedeabc said:
Upgrading your radio version is the next step and is something I intend to do eventually... the phone needs unlocking first. The above method has made my phone usable in the mean time.
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I've no interest in unlocking or flashing my phone. I just want to use the internet on my phone. Apparently this is a problem on the Desire.
Assuming you're on Orange? You didn't say.
They've got their branded 1.21 OTA update in the pipeline that will almost certainly include a radio update that many have reported improves signal and 3G/HSDPA pickup.
If you want that now, you can flash to a generic 1.21 ROM using a goldcard. You'll need to buy an unlock code for around £15.
You can either wait for Orange to release the update (keeping your warranty), Or go get it yourself now. Woth bearing in mind that you'll get Froyo faster if you get a generic ROM...
bedeabc said:
Assuming you're on Orange? You didn't say.
They've got their branded 1.21 OTA update in the pipeline that will almost certainly include a radio update that many have reported improves signal and 3G/HSDPA pickup.
If you want that now, you can flash to a generic 1.21 ROM using a goldcard. You'll need to buy an unlock code for around £15.
You can either wait for Orange to release the update (keeping your warranty), Or go get it yourself now. Woth bearing in mind that you'll get Froyo faster if you get a generic ROM...
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Yeah, I'm on Orange UK. I like the idea of generic roms, but I'm sort of put off by all the reports of people bricking their phones. Also, I'm used to HTC's sense UI. By all accounts the standard Android interface is a little dull. It's actually the HTC widgets I'd probably miss most, though. I guess it depends on exactly what is in 2.2, really. Functionality is more important to me than a wizzy front end, and Orange have made something of a mess of 2.1 on the Desire (breaking reflow on the browser, removing google talk but leaving the service running, putting loads of crap on like facebook which you can't remove and which gives me a daily reminder that there are updates available which i don't want and can't disable).
poldie said:
Yeah, I'm on Orange UK. I like the idea of generic roms, but I'm sort of put off by all the reports of people bricking their phones. Also, I'm used to HTC's sense UI. By all accounts the standard Android interface is a little dull. It's actually the HTC widgets I'd probably miss most, though. I guess it depends on exactly what is in 2.2, really. Functionality is more important to me than a wizzy front end, and Orange have made something of a mess of 2.1 on the Desire (breaking reflow on the browser, removing google talk but leaving the service running, putting loads of crap on like facebook which you can't remove and which gives me a daily reminder that there are updates available which i don't want and can't disable).
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Why not flash a custom ROM like Pays Desire Sense: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674688
It's not Froyo but it's a great 2.1 ROM that will get rid of all the annoying **** from the Orange/Generic ROM and adding some nice new stuff, all while keeping Sense and all the HTC UI stuff.
I had the problem with the data connection as well but it's fixed now I flashed the radio after unlocking. You can get an unlock code for £10 and it's actually an investment in terms of resell value for the phone, plus of course you can then use whatever radio you want rather than waiting on Orange OTA updates.
You can always reflash to Orange stock if you ever have any warranty issues.
It can seem a bit daunting at first if you are not used to flashing ROM's but as long as you can follow a handful of well documented step by step instructions that are given it's easy, and there is so much to be gained.
Don't put up with what you don't like when there are relatively easy fixes.

[Q] Desire z slow at messaging

Hi
I have a problem with a Desire Z. Alot of times when I try to send a message (SMS) it takes forever (5min) before it gets sent. If I hit the home-button while watching/waiting for the message to be sent, it's put in drafts instead of keep trying to send.
It's also slow at recivieving messages. Tested with a couple of other phones and compared.
Does anyone else have a simular issue? The sim-card has been used for years with other phones without troubles.
Try using a different messaging app (i.e. handcent)
kjeksomanen said:
have a problem with a Desire Z. Alot of times when I try to send a message (SMS) it takes forever (5min) before it gets sent. If I hit the home-button while watching/waiting for the message to be sent, it's put in drafts instead of keep trying to send.
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Same problem for me. Hoping the new OTA solve this problem.
Tap on "send", put the phone away, look at the phone after an hour, somethimes the sms is still "sending" !
I only get this if I have no or very bad signal, i.e. it will wait till it's got a signal to send it.
I wonder if it's worthwhile for you guys to do a factory reset or re-flash the ROM ?
Only thing I can think of is using the "delete old messages" function after deleting all your messages. other than that, I'd try wiping cache and dalvik cache (assuming you are rooted). Re-flashing the ROM should be a last resort (assuming that you even have a custom ROM installed).
omarsalmin said:
Try using a different messaging app (i.e. handcent)
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Thanks that's a good tip, I'll def try it and report back!
steviewevie said:
I only get this if I have no or very bad signal, i.e. it will wait till it's got a signal to send it.
I wonder if it's worthwhile for you guys to do a factory reset or re-flash the ROM ?
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This isn't relevant for my problem since it's always good strength + when I tested the slow recivieving the other phones was in the same room, with no problems
lordevol said:
Same problem for me. Hoping the new OTA solve this problem.
Tap on "send", put the phone away, look at the phone after an hour, somethimes the sms is still "sending" !
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Sorry but what does OTA stand for? If you're talking about the recent update, I sure do to!
Nissan350 said:
Only thing I can think of is using the "delete old messages" function after deleting all your messages. other than that, I'd try wiping cache and dalvik cache (assuming you are rooted). Re-flashing the ROM should be a last resort (assuming that you even have a custom ROM installed).
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So it's possible it's so slow at sending since it has alot of messages in the inbox? It might be the case, but even so it's lame if that's the reason, it's far more powerfull than just handling some textfiles
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Thanks for all your answers, will test'em out as soon as I can!
kjeksomanen said:
So it's possible it's so slow at sending since it has alot of messages in the inbox? It might be the case, but even so it's lame if that's the reason, it's far more powerfull than just handling some textfiles
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Haha I agree with you on that, mine has messages in it from weeks and weeks ago. the only reason i said that is because when I was with sprint, I had a HERO (i know, they arent even close to the same spec-wise) and it acted the same way your G2 is acting now. I fixed it by doing what I recommended. worth a try
A little nomenclature for you...
OTA - Over The Air update. It's an update that HTC or your service provider pushes to your phone when it does a check-in, if it is more current than the version your phone is running. Basically it's a software patch for the system software located in your phone.
Seeing that you don't know what an OTA is yet, I can deduce that a rooted phone definitely isn't your problem. I think you should check your phone for updates (Settings -> About phone -> System updates -> Check for updates) and see if anything pops up after you hit okay.
If you find an OTA and the problem still persists, you may find a new SIM card would be an ideal option. Let me explain myself here:
When Cingular made the switch to AT&T I was still using a Cingular labeled SIM card. It worked fine until AT&T switched to 3G. When I got a 3G phone, I found that I couldn't get 3G no matter what I tried, because for some reason the SIM spec didn't support 3G. So I had to switch my SIM to get 3G. I've found that with each new spec that comes out, often times the best way to go is just to switch the SIM out each time you get a new phone. Might take a few minutes longer getting your contract up, but new SIMs seem to be sent out to our store (which is a AT&T/T-Mobile vendor) every time a new network spec is introduced by the carriers. I'm not entirely convinced that this is just a strange "coincidence".
deliberate187 said:
A little nomenclature for you...
OTA - Over The Air update. It's an update that HTC or your service provider pushes to your phone when it does a check-in, if it is more current than the version your phone is running. Basically it's a software patch for the system software located in your phone.
Seeing that you don't know what an OTA is yet, I can deduce that a rooted phone definitely isn't your problem. I think you should check your phone for updates (Settings -> About phone -> System updates -> Check for updates) and see if anything pops up after you hit okay.
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Hehe thank you, but I do indeed know what rooting is etc., but the phone we're talking about isn't rooted so it's not the problem.
Just because I haven't bumped into the word OTA doesn't mean I don't know how the updatesystem from HTC works
And yes, it's the latest version, just got a update ticking in, dunno if it fixed the problem yet.
deliberate187 said:
If you find an OTA and the problem still persists, you may find a new SIM card would be an ideal option. Let me explain myself here:
When Cingular made the switch to AT&T I was still using a Cingular labeled SIM card. It worked fine until AT&T switched to 3G. When I got a 3G phone, I found that I couldn't get 3G no matter what I tried, because for some reason the SIM spec didn't support 3G. So I had to switch my SIM to get 3G. I've found that with each new spec that comes out, often times the best way to go is just to switch the SIM out each time you get a new phone. Might take a few minutes longer getting your contract up, but new SIMs seem to be sent out to our store (which is a AT&T/T-Mobile vendor) every time a new network spec is introduced by the carriers. I'm not entirely convinced that this is just a strange "coincidence".
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Thank for your tip, I'll check it out although the sim was used on another phone which also supported 3G afaik.
kjeksomanen said:
just got a update ticking in, dunno if it fixed the problem yet.
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The recent update solved the problem (for my Desire z),
it was an HTC bug
Sorry for the late answer, but one day the mobile just decided to empty it's inbox for whatever unknown reason, and well, that solved the problem.
But thanks for all the answers, once again
the htc sense messaging app is horrible. the dates and times are wrong and it is like a pig. openeing, sending, reading are all slow.
install the vanilla android messaging app as shown here then you dont have to install third party
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846231&page=12

[Q] Disconnected because service is unavailable

Hoping someone can provide some direction. First and foremost I am not a HTC savvy so although there are a few threads here about the same issue none of them relate to me as I have not rooted the phone nor flashed to custom ROMs or anything to that nature. I am simple user of the phone... Now.. to the topic.. so I bought this phone for my brother in law last year as a birthday present, and at the time I had a working phone so I didnt put my mind too much to it.. but I did liked the phone very much. Two months ago, I decided to purchase one of these, so I bougtht an HTC ONE X Phone S720e Android 32GB 8MP 3G WiFi GPS Bluetooth Unlocked White. I don´t recall what versión of Android it carried at the time but looking at the specs it should had come with Android 4.0.3. After loading it up, transfering my files on to it and loading some basic apps, whatsapp, email, Skype... it off coursed asked for a software update two times which I went ahead and did. The last one it installed added Android 4.2.2 and HTC Sense 5. It was working fine, layout changed considerably... now after doing another of the updates to applications and software, specifically the transfer files update it suddenly quit recognizing data services completely. I though it might be something with the micro sim, so I tried testing a couple of others, it didnt make a difference so I decided to back up my contacts and information I had on the phone and did a Factory reset. It wipped it clean but issue remains the sames, it is unable to even recognize the sim card is missing and when I go into settings I see the message Disconnected because service is unavailable.
Reading online, saw a few folks stating that this situation was related to software updates.. so I was wondering if I could get some help on how to get this fixed. Not sure what to do, downgrade to 4.0.3 or how could I get it resolved so appreciate some direction here.
If you go to settings - about - phone identity, does it still shows the imei ? Seen many people here having their imei gone from their phone and becomes an iPod since we can't write it back. Tho you are on stock, so better send it for repair.
Sent from my HTC One X
n1kos said:
If you go to settings - about - phone identity, does it still shows the imei ? Seen many people here having their imei gone from their phone and becomes an iPod since we can't write it back. Tho you are on stock, so better send it for repair.
Sent from my HTC One X
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It shows up as unknown actually... is this a software related issue then? Im concerned about the other phone going through the same situation... should no updates be installed to it then? That makes it fairly useless and might prefer to send it back and try to get a refund instead.
same problem for me, still wait for fix
poussymonster said:
same problem for me, still wait for fix
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Can someone tell where is the IMEI physically located on the phone?
marcosballesterosr said:
Can someone tell where is the IMEI physically located on the phone?
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see in the list of micro sim card

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