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strange little problem/bug

I have an AT&T Tilt 2. i have flashed many roms on it. i do task 29 then flash new rom. problem is, there are only two roms on this site that work completly, all other roms i have a problem with the end/home key not working when i read or look at a text or mms. the key works in all other tabs/ functions thou. i just want to see if i can find why this happens and see if i can fix it. the two roms it works fine with are "e2_ROM_25_20100320 and TPC v7_23544. all other roms ive tried i cant get the end key working. i have tried remapping the answer key for the end key function also to no effect. works just like the end key does. in text view no worky fine, all other tabs/ functions worky fine. anyone think they can help, i thank you!

what do you mean "end/home key not working "?
when you press it nothing happens? also why you press end/home key when you reading SMS message???for what? trying to go back to home screen?

Forgive the question, but just what is "task 29"? I've done a search and came up with tons of posts where it is mentioned, but none actually explain what the heck it is?
This is the first time I've heard the phrase used in the 2 years that I've been here. LOL!
Thanks,
Debbie

DebbieNY13 said:
Forgive the question, but just what is "task 29"? I've done a search and came up with tons of posts where it is mentioned, but none actually explain what the heck it is?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191
Basically it clears your storage without flashing your ROM.
For the OP, it sounds like a driver thing. Have you tried asking in the specific ROM thread?

burtonsnow8 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191
Basically it clears your storage without flashing your ROM.
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Many thanks! How the heck did I miss this??? LOL! I had tons of threads, most which were referring to "Task Manager", because it tagged the word "task" instead of the entire phrase (search is not a perfect animal), so I was way confused.
Seems I can't use this anyway due to my USB connection being all FUBAR. I have to use a BT USB to sync, so I guess I won't be doing much flashing until I get it fixed. Too much $$$ for me to do that right now unfortunately.
I will certainly subscribe to the thread for use down the road.
Debbie
...Who has learned something again on XDA!

nokiadashi said:
what do you mean "end/home key not working "?
when you press it nothing happens? also why you press end/home key when you reading SMS message???for what? trying to go back to home screen?
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Yes, while I'm in sms or mms the end/home key does nothing. I only push that button to return to the home/today screen. i have ask in a rom forum that it was happing with and was told to try task 29. i do that already.

Any-one think they can help me? I have a new tilt2 and I still have my problem. I've tried all i can think of but I'm still new to this phone.

I think I've narrowed it down to HTC message itself. I've tried a few roms that had no HTC Message and the key works fine. Install HTC Message and the key no worky fine. I install HTC Message cause I like the way it looks and works, it being slow dont bother me. If someone knows of another messaging cab I could use instead of HTC's but looks and feels like HTC's, please tell me or give me cab to try. Thanks!

I gues I'm the only person with this problem, I've looked all over the net and this web site and see no-one with this problem. I dont know if its me doing it or my computers doing it to my phone, but even with a new tilt 2 I have the same results. i dont know how to cook or dump roms yet ( working on it ) but maybe, if some-one has the end key drivers or a regtweek or any other idea I could try, they could post it here for me to try.

Well,, I"ve tried and tried to fix this problem I'm having to no sucsess. I've Flashed a rom that HTC Messaging works on, gone through all the regisrty and settings and can't see any differance between one it works on and one it don't work with. I wish i knew more about coding and programing, but im not that smart. I have tried every way of flashing that I could come across on all of xda site. And like I've siad before, I have another tilt 2 so i dont think its my phone. I have redownloaded roms, task 29, factory flash then custom rom, redid HardSPL, all kinds of flashing combos but nothing works. I would really love to fix this but I'm at a loss. If any of you guys or gals can help me, please do!

PLEASE, for the love of God... stop tormenting me WM!

Why does this phone have to be soft reset so often...
Why does it eventually lag and hang up all the time randomly? I tried so many different roms and they just all result to the same problems after a few weeks use.
Is there no way to make this phone reliable???
I am ranting because I missed my job opportunity with a really big company because my phone froze when they called me and didn't receive my voicemails till days later for what ever reason....
This was the one and only time I really didn't want my phone to hang up, and it had to happen when the company CEO decided to call me back, but since my phone was stupid I wasn't able to respond to the offer in time (2 days later)...
Please... I'm tired of these Windows Mobile Problems...

Dang, that was a bad break. srry that happened to You. dayuum..i know u was pissed. so did it freeze up on u with the stock rom or some custom one u flashed to it? i never had my stock rom freeze up on me. Only when i was constantly trying new apps and downloads or drivers, it tried to act funny. Id reapply for that position and if u get to the point of call back again, take it and try to explain what happened the first time. All isnt lost, just keep your head up and keep trying.

demandarin said:
i never had my stock rom freeze up on me. Only when i was constantly trying new apps and downloads or drivers, it tried to act funny.
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Me too. Anyway, wish you luck if you decide to call back CEO and explain whats happened.

SlimJ87D you got pm

Sue Microsoft for selling you software that's not fit for purpose. It could turn into a class action because I'd say that statement could well be true about lots of software they sell.

Having used the TP2 for half a year, I have had none of the problems you mention.

mhurg said:
Having used the TP2 for half a year, I have had none of the problems you mention.
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I have been using WM for almost 4 years and everything SlimJ87D mentions makes total sense to me

i've been using WM since 2003 (7years exactly this august) and i cant remember the last time my device has hung up on me where calls/msgs didn't come in.
Also i'm what you'd call a power user, multiple apps open at the same time and doing 3 things at once.
The majority of lock-ups are from low ram. So just make sure you ram is always good, doing a system cache/temp file clean every now and then (i use dinarsoft's memmaid) and you should be good.
Also sometimes a buggy software will cause the device to freeze, up to you to figure out which one it is if you suspect one.
Best of luck and sucks about that job.
About 2 years ago my exchange server went down without me knowing and wasn't getting emails, when they finally did come through the next morning, i had received an important email concerning a contract deal, called the person back and they had gone with a competitor because i didn't reply soon enough. Lost some money on that and still pissed about it but technology does that to us every now and then.

dik23 said:
I have been using WM for almost 4 years and everything SlimJ87D mentions makes total sense to me
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A lot depends on the phone model and how well you tweak it. I've not had any trouble once the phone was operating correctly. This is one thing that is both a drawback and an advantage of WM - it is flexible, and rewards anyone who takes the time to get to know the OS and the particular phone model.
If you really want "out of the box" experience with any tweaking, I'd go for a different OS.

SlimJ87D said:
...all the time randomly?
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lol... .

SlimJ87D said:
Why does this phone have to be soft reset so often...
Why does it eventually lag and hang up all the time randomly? I tried so many different roms and they just all result to the same problems after a few weeks use.
Is there no way to make this phone reliable???
I am ranting because I missed my job opportunity with a really big company because my phone froze when they called me and didn't receive my voicemails till days later for what ever reason....
This was the one and only time I really didn't want my phone to hang up, and it had to happen when the company CEO decided to call me back, but since my phone was stupid I wasn't able to respond to the offer in time (2 days later)...
Please... I'm tired of these Windows Mobile Problems...
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Wait...your phone froze while you were talking to the CEO of this company, and you couldn't call him back for TWO DAYS???
Ever hear of using another phone? Or a land line?
And I'm not sure what your problem with voice messages was. If you left them messages and they did not receive them, it's their voicemail systems fault, not WinMo's.
If WinMo did not notify you of voice messages that you had waiting, then simply call your voicemail number regardless of whether your phone says you have any or not. You could even call it from a different phone. Not doing so, especially when you are expecting important calls, is simply negligent. Every phone I have ever owned, long before I started to use WinMo, has failed to notify me of voice messages on numerous occasions.
This is as basic as keeping a backup copy of whatever important paper or project you are working on. It should be done with ALL phones, even the infallible iPhone.

I bet I could make an iPhone fail

MooGoo said:
Wait...your phone froze while you were talking to the CEO of this company, and you couldn't call him back for TWO DAYS???
Ever hear of using another phone? Or a land line?
And I'm not sure what your problem with voice messages was. If you left them messages and they did not receive them, it's their voicemail systems fault, not WinMo's.
If WinMo did not notify you of voice messages that you had waiting, then simply call your voicemail number regardless of whether your phone says you have any or not. You could even call it from a different phone. Not doing so, especially when you are expecting important calls, is simply negligent. Every phone I have ever owned, long before I started to use WinMo, has failed to notify me of voice messages on numerous occasions.
This is as basic as keeping a backup copy of whatever important paper or project you are working on. It should be done with ALL phones, even the infallible iPhone.
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Totally agree with moogoo here. The voicemail issue isn't really a hardware issue as much as it is YOU not checking your voicemail or them having issues with there voicemail. Not calling the CEO back right away AFTER you reset your phone... I just couldnt imagine the phone freezing on me and not reseting it and calling the person back right away.
You havn't said whether you are running a stock rom or a custom rom on your phone. If it's stock and you are having these issues I would probably go to where you bought the phone and just have them give you a new one as I've never heard of people having that many issues with their phone. If its a custom rom, the only time I hear of people having the issues you are having is because after flashing their phone they didnt do a hard reset after the initial boot up to make sure everything installs properly. 9 times out of 10 if your phone freezes as much as it does you probably just need to do a hard reset.
Now, the comment about it locking up and what not... if it does it every few days, well guess what. It's a freaking computer! I don't know about you but I dont leave my PC or laptop running for days at a time and expect it to be running as fast as it should. I usually turn those off every night or when I'm not using them. Now we cant just go ahead and turn our phones off at night that doesnt make sense BUT you can at least do a soft reset every now and again and it should speed things up. I know myself I do this at least every 2 days. Again... if it's being as glitchy as it is odds are you just need a hard reset. Try running one of NRG's roms as they seem to be the best out there, at least from the ones I've tried.
So moral of your story.... you need to hard reset your phone once if not twice after you install a new rom..... you need to check your voicemail even when it doesnt show you have missed calls.... you need to call people back immediatly after your phone crashes... dont just put the phone down and hope that it starts working again. They have the reset button on their for a reason!

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MooGoo said:
Wait...your phone froze while you were talking to the CEO of this company, and you couldn't call him back for TWO DAYS???
Ever hear of using another phone? Or a land line?
And I'm not sure what your problem with voice messages was. If you left them messages and they did not receive them, it's their voicemail systems fault, not WinMo's.
If WinMo did not notify you of voice messages that you had waiting, then simply call your voicemail number regardless of whether your phone says you have any or not. You could even call it from a different phone. Not doing so, especially when you are expecting important calls, is simply negligent. Every phone I have ever owned, long before I started to use WinMo, has failed to notify me of voice messages on numerous occasions.
This is as basic as keeping a backup copy of whatever important paper or project you are working on. It should be done with ALL phones, even the infallible iPhone.
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Aaron McCarthy said:
Totally agree with moogoo here. The voicemail issue isn't really a hardware issue as much as it is YOU not checking your voicemail or them having issues with there voicemail. Not calling the CEO back right away AFTER you reset your phone... I just couldnt imagine the phone freezing on me and not reseting it and calling the person back right away.
You havn't said whether you are running a stock rom or a custom rom on your phone. If it's stock and you are having these issues I would probably go to where you bought the phone and just have them give you a new one as I've never heard of people having that many issues with their phone. If its a custom rom, the only time I hear of people having the issues you are having is because after flashing their phone they didnt do a hard reset after the initial boot up to make sure everything installs properly. 9 times out of 10 if your phone freezes as much as it does you probably just need to do a hard reset.
Now, the comment about it locking up and what not... if it does it every few days, well guess what. It's a freaking computer! I don't know about you but I dont leave my PC or laptop running for days at a time and expect it to be running as fast as it should. I usually turn those off every night or when I'm not using them. Now we cant just go ahead and turn our phones off at night that doesnt make sense BUT you can at least do a soft reset every now and again and it should speed things up. I know myself I do this at least every 2 days. Again... if it's being as glitchy as it is odds are you just need a hard reset. Try running one of NRG's roms as they seem to be the best out there, at least from the ones I've tried.
So moral of your story.... you need to hard reset your phone once if not twice after you install a new rom..... you need to check your voicemail even when it doesnt show you have missed calls.... you need to call people back immediatly after your phone crashes... dont just put the phone down and hope that it starts working again. They have the reset button on their for a reason!
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Hey guys, sorry for the late response.
Well this is what happen. The CEO called me to talk to me about the job but at this very time my phone was frozen and hiccuping without my knowledge. When it does this it just rejects all my calls, but for some reason I never got the missed call or anything. It didn't even show up on screen. My phone randomly hiccups and when it does this everything is ignored, I won't get a missed call, it's like my phone is off. I didn't even get a voice mail message. When I checked my voicemail because one of my friends left me one after I ignored his call it finally gave me a message and it said I had 2 missed voicemails. I thought it was strange that he left 2 voice mails even though I only had his only miss call.. and then I realized he didn't leave 2 voice mails. I heard the voice of the CEO, he said for me to try and call him back. I checked the receipt and it was 2 days late! I called back right away.
I left him a voice mail back, but he left on a business trip and had to select someone else... which happen to be my classmate
And yes, it hiccups all the time. A large part of it is due to the amount of text I receive but not all the time. Under my GFs name we have about 1000s of text saved up and it causes the phone to lag sometimes.
Other lags and hiccups happen randomly when I'm trying to do simple things.
I know you guys are probably angry because I'm talking smack about our phones but please, I really wasn't expecting these kinds of problems with my phones. I'm not some kind of iPhone user disguised to troll.
Some of you guys don't' get the problem, yes you guys are lucky. Maybe have different models. But some of us here do.
Don't be quick to judge me so harshly. I'm only a guy here trying to set a realistic complaint because Windows Mobile should release updates more often, we deserve it, and you guys know we deserve it. By not complaining and pretending these problems don't exist gives Windows a right to not want to optimize their OS.
Thanks Lennzy for PMing me possible solutions to fixing my phone and not trying to give me some kind of life advice where you don't even know what happen.
The way the market is going right now, I just don't want to go through this again... it's such a bad experience... maybe it's fate, maybe I wasn't meant for the job and some other better company will call me. But for the time being I need to fix this phone or get a basic phone to just receive and give calls.

You got two new pm's

It's still prudent to check your voicemail at least once a day regardless of phone notifications. One good failsafe, if you can manage it, is to set things up so you automatically receive emails informing you of new voicemail (this is setup for me through Exchange at work, but I'm sure there are other ways).
As previously mentioned, the problems you are having are far from normal. I'm running a cooked ROM with all kinds of incredible hacks and tweaks, so much so that I'd expect the thing to break more often, but it is just as stable and usable as ever.
Not trying to give you life lessons, just pointing out one that you surely already learned.

Slim, are you in the US? If so, at least a temporary solution might be to use Google voice...it'll take over your voicemail functions, and can notify you via e-mail whenever you get a VM, and it'll even send you a transcript and a downloadable audio file of the message

Aaron McCarthy said:
I don't know about you but I dont leave my PC or laptop running for days at a time and expect it to be running as fast as it should
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Try Linux - my home server's been up for 3 months without issue and my misses laptop's often on for weeks

Honestly ever since XP I've had no problem leaving my Windows box running for long periods of time.
Most often the only reason it needs to be reset is because of some update.
Linux is not infallible in this matter. While the core OS is extremely stable, very often the window manager, especially Gnome and KDE can be very buggy and prone to crashing.
Of course it is easy enough to drop out of Xwindows and restart it without restarting the entire OS.

[Q] voice search not recognizing commands

anyone else noticing a challenge with their voice search?
i used to be able to say "Navigate to Los Angeles International Airport" and the phone would put the address into gps navigation... but now i get google searches for los angeles international aiport
"dail 6262164571" gets me a google search for "kbb 2164571"
"call elaine" gets me "did you mean... kbb, qb, etc"
AT LEAST these results are consistent.. but these results are consistently WRONG. anyone with any clues how to remedy?
******* EDIT / UPDATE FIX (6/1/2011) *******
I AM VERY HAPPY TO REPORT THAT I FOUND THE SOLUTION (that's worked for me) ON THE GOOGLE FORUMS!
i hope it works for you guys... see the fix here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...04a4aa5a04556c
pretty much (for the lazy):
On your phone, Start Google Voice
Click the Menu button and tap Settings.
Turn of "Personalized Recognition"
Tap the "Google Account Dashboard"
Scroll down to the "Speech" section and click the "Anonymize recognition"
Click "Yes..." when it asks if you really want to.
i was losing hope but someone answered my post finally on the google forums =D

er.. anyone with clues at least of what i can look into? or anyone ever experience anything similar?

Nope..I'm not having issues but you can try....
Settings - Voice input - Voice recog settings
Check "personalize recog" if its not checked
OR uncheck it if it is.
Worth a try at least.

thanks dude... i tried that -- no avail.
i think my voice search chops off like the first bit of what i'm saying... it's kind of funny. if i say "navigate navigate to los angeles international airport" it'll process fine, but if i say "navigate to los angeles international airport" it'll google search the "lose angeles international airport" LOL
maybe i'll need to do some stuff through the terminal ?? have no freakin' clue... this is weird tho

Don't know if this will have an effect but it fixes a lot of other apps when they act weird. Try clearing the data for Voice search.
Settings - manage apps - Voice search
Clear data and/or uninstall updates.

dkechitkid thanks for taking the time to help me out -- i'm very grateful!
i looked in the market for voice search and it looks like some other users might be experiencing something similar
not sure how to contact the "devs" of the app tho b/c it's google inc.. i'll figure it out.

Not a problem. Good luck and if you find a solution..report back to this post. You never know, I might run in to this one someday and need the fix.

dkechitkid said:
Not a problem. Good luck and if you find a solution..report back to this post. You never know, I might run in to this one someday and need the fix.
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for sure i will... just posted over at the google forums and waiting for a helpful resposne!!

cache83 said:
anyone else noticing a challenge with their voice search?
i used to be able to say "Navigate to Los Angeles International Airport" and the phone would put the address into gps navigation... but now i get google searches for los angeles international aiport
"dail 6262164571" gets me a google search for "kbb 2164571"
"call elaine" gets me "did you mean... kbb, qb, etc"
AT LEAST these results are consistent.. but these results are consistently WRONG. anyone with any clues how to remedy?
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Although I have an HTC Incredible, I am having the exact same problem; the kbb business and everything. This problem only started happening recently for me (last several weeks).
I just discovered (tonight) that if I say:
Test Navigate to Burger King
It drops "Test" and I end up with "Navigate to Burger King". The first word doesn't have to be "test", any word seems to do. Not perfect, but now I can at least get directions. This has been driving me crazy and I've tried everything to resolve it (flashing different ROMs, deleting everything on my sdcard, etc).
Update:
These people seem to be having the same problem:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3ac8c0fa59a11403&hl=en

a lot of people have this problem, its an issue with the microphone in our phone being the only thing that is crappy, the voice quality that thing hears is horrible, try a bluetooth device and youll see it can hear you now

reinaldistic said:
a lot of people have this problem, its an issue with the microphone in our phone being the only thing that is crappy, the voice quality that thing hears is horrible, try a bluetooth device and youll see it can hear you now
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The app does NOT have BT audio enabled. (A very bad lack of a feature.) It hasn't been updated recently either. And the phone mic works fine most of the time in my experience.

I AM VERY HAPPY TO REPORT THAT I FOUND THE SOLUTION (that's worked for me) ON THE GOOGLE FORUMS!
i hope it works for you guys... see the fix here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum...22&hl=en&fid=7df506aa6b0f4a220004a4aa5a04556c
pretty much (for the lazy):
On your phone, Start Google Voice
Click the Menu button and tap Settings.
Turn of "Personalized Recognition"
Tap the "Google Account Dashboard"
Scroll down to the "Speech" section and click the "Anonymize recognition"
Click "Yes..." when it asks if you really want to.
i was losing hope but someone answered my post finally on the google forums =D

reinaldistic said:
a lot of people have this problem, its an issue with the microphone in our phone being the only thing that is crappy, the voice quality that thing hears is horrible, try a bluetooth device and youll see it can hear you now
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I never had this problem until recently and I have a different phone than the OP has (I have an HTC Incredible). I believe this is a problem with the most recent version of the voice search application (users posting to the discussions I linked to believe this as well).
Maybe I'll back up my current ROM and revert to an older version of MIUI to verify.
Edit: I didn't see Cache83's post before I wrote my post. I tried Cache83's solution and it fixed my problem. Thanks for chasing this one down Cache83!

My defy is gone to meet his maker

Well, I thought I'd let you guys know, my defy went to the official motorola service, now, before someone starts posting "room full of people who cares" pics, I'll tell you what where it's symptoms and maybe you can tell me if any had any similar issues.
A little background:
I'm in Argentina, and I got my defy from "Personal" ( that's the carrier) which has a 2.2.1 rom ( if I'm not wrong )
I used it for a bit and it was working so well that I didn't feel the need to mess with it.
Then, I started missing some stuff and I decided to install CM7 (rc1, v2), to see how it performed.
All good, for a while, but then, the following started happening:
- 5~8 times out of ten, sms's wouldn't go out ( and I had to re-send them until they did )
- I got delays on getting messages, and on other people receiving them.
- Sometimes I wouldn't get to answer a call, just got a "missed call notification SMS"
- Sometimes calls would drop when answering them
- FM radio started being CRAP, and getting either stuck on, or wouldn't turn on after being interrupted by other notifications.
- frecuent freezing .
I guessed it was CM7, so, deceided to get back to stock, and maybe rooting, just for kicks.
I went back to stock, but the problems kept happening.
And that's why I sent it to service.
Anyone got any similar issues?

I wounder if you had forgot ‘full wipe’?

This sounds like an intermittent connection somewhere in the phone hardware.

davenaughty said:
I wounder if you had forgot ‘full wipe’?
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lol, of course I did wipe, I didn't got into GREAT detail of everything i did because it would be WAY to boring, but, I did tried a lot of stuff before sending it back.
I kind of know my way around android, but I don't blame you for asking, I've seen a lot of uninformed posts around here ( nothing wrong with that, not everyone has time, the patience, or the interest to spend HOURS figuring stuff out, and learning about android )
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This sounds like an intermittent connection somewhere in the phone hardware.
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Yup, I also thought it could be either a SEVERE overage problem ( like a signal black hole in my apartment) , or a defective sim card , but I'm using my old HTC G1 for now, and it's working great, so, both of those are out.

Maybe ,your phone’s baceband does not fit for the sevice,download some app to change the baseband.
Many peope have the same problem reflected by forum in my conutry as far as i know. Most of them solve the problem by changing baceband.
(My english is so bad...but I really want to help you.)

davenaughty said:
Maybe ,your phone’s baceband does not fit for the sevice,download some app to change the baseband.
Many peope have the same problem reflected by forum in my conutry as far as i know. Most of them solve the problem by changing baceband.
(My english is so bad...but I really want to help you.)
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If the baseband was incorrect, it wouldn't get signal at all.
Plus, the phone was bought in argentina, so the argentina stock rom for the carrier HAS the right baseband, and I still got issues.
I have no other explanation for it than faulty hardware.
Thanks, though, I know you're trying to help ; )

[Q] pattern lock reset help ~ I've not forgotten it, simply want to change it

Please help me? I am by no means a developer, just a wanna be nerd with a new phone. I'm looking for pattern lock reset help ~ I've not forgotten it, simply want to change it, and while it seems like something that would be simple and obvious, it is currently not presenting itself that way and I'm more than a little frustrated with myself (and it).
Meanwhile, the first two weeks the phone seemed just fine (apart from not playing with Planet anymore, though that seems worked out now, though I'm not at all certain). Now, I'm getting a lot of security issues cropping up that seem disturbing. Verizon tech support tells me that Kitkat 4.3 has known issues in this arena that they hope will be corrected in the next update. There is a constant message about my network traffic, email, etc may be monitored by an unknown third party and to check my security certificates. Did that ~ cleared them all, but that only helped for about 10 minutes. The phone insists that it cannot get a secure connection to Facebook, so I am too wary to do much of anything online with it. Seems to defeat the purpose of even having the phone. I'm seriously considering switching back to my last smartphone and turning this one off (I do not believe that I can return it).
I'm so sorry to ramble on so, but is it insane to ask if the M8 can be pushed back to an older version of Android?!?!?
Thank you so very much for ANY help at all.

Change pattern: settings, security, click on Screen lock and enter your current pattern. Click Screen Lock again to enter a new one, then repeat to confirm, and you're done.
For the second part I have no solution I'm afraid.

vosg said:
Change pattern: settings, security, click on Screen lock and enter your current pattern. Click Screen Lock again to enter a new one, then repeat to confirm, and you're done.
For the second part I have no solution I'm afraid.
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He is asking for how to reset it not how to change it.And @hnvr911 you should google it.You shouldn't ask for hacks in xda.

Jyotirdeb said:
He is asking for how to reset it not how to change it.And @hnvr911 you should google it.You shouldn't ask for hacks in xda.
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"He" is a she... and I am not looking to hack anything at all. I am simply too daft to change my own security pattern. As I stated clearly, I have not forgotten how to unlock my phone, I would simply like to change it, and while this should be a simple and obvious task, it appears to be eluding me at present... (though I am, somehow, adept enough to have already tried the obvious tactic of "googling" the question before annoying those I presumed more clever than myself.
To the first response, I thank you for your kindness and patience, I will attempt your suggestion straight away.
Kind regards,
~donna:cyclops:

hnvr911 said:
"He" is a she... and I am not looking to hack anything at all. I am simply too daft to change my own security pattern. As I stated clearly, I have not forgotten how to unlock my phone, I would simply like to change it, and while this should be a simple and obvious task, it appears to be eluding me at present... (though I am, somehow, adept enough to have already tried the obvious tactic of "googling" the question before annoying those I presumed more clever than myself.
To the first response, I thank you for your kindness and patience, I will attempt your suggestion straight away.
Kind regards,
~donna:cyclops:
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Sorry my bad didnot see "I've not forgotten it" it.

thank you!!!
vosg said:
Change pattern: settings, security, click on Screen lock and enter your current pattern. Click Screen Lock again to enter a new one, then repeat to confirm, and you're done.
For the second part I have no solution I'm afraid.
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Thank you so very much for the help. Your instructions worked perfectly, and I very much appreciate your kindness and patience.
Kind regards,
~donna

hnvr911 said:
Thank you so very much for the help. Your instructions worked perfectly, and I very much appreciate your kindness and patience.
Kind regards,
~donna
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You're most welcome.

hnvr911 said:
Please help me? I am by no means a developer, just a wanna be nerd with a new phone. I'm looking for pattern lock reset help ~ I've not forgotten it, simply want to change it, and while it seems like something that would be simple and obvious, it is currently not presenting itself that way and I'm more than a little frustrated with myself (and it).
Meanwhile, the first two weeks the phone seemed just fine (apart from not playing with Planet anymore, though that seems worked out now, though I'm not at all certain). Now, I'm getting a lot of security issues cropping up that seem disturbing. Verizon tech support tells me that Kitkat 4.3 has known issues in this arena that they hope will be corrected in the next update. There is a constant message about my network traffic, email, etc may be monitored by an unknown third party and to check my security certificates. Did that ~ cleared them all, but that only helped for about 10 minutes. The phone insists that it cannot get a secure connection to Facebook, so I am too wary to do much of anything online with it. Seems to defeat the purpose of even having the phone. I'm seriously considering switching back to my last smartphone and turning this one off (I do not believe that I can return it).
I'm so sorry to ramble on so, but is it insane to ask if the M8 can be pushed back to an older version of Android?!?!?
Thank you so very much for ANY help at all.
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Have you tried following these "suggestions" ?
HOWTO Install a custom cert without "Your network could be monitored" message
How can I trust CAcert's root certificate?
Remove "Network May Be Monitored by an Unknown Third Party" in Android 4.4 KitKat
Maybe/Hopefully it'll sort out your second problem in regards to the Trusted Credentials.

Anyone htat ever needs to reset their lock if they have forgotten it or get locked out somehow, Here is my backdoor mod I created specifically for this type of situation You may not need it now but download it & save it so you will always have it with you when that time comes if it ever oes and chances are, it will!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2789684