Sup guys just got my G2 and I'm set to perm root it. Just a quick question though,
with all the different guides and the wiki which is the most thorough and safest?
I'm not new to android or rooting. I've owned and rooted a G1, N1, and a MT3GS.
So I don't necessarily need a noob guide. Which method do you say is the best?
Definetly the rage method. Visionary is quite dangerous and a lot of people ended up semi-bricking their phones. Not sure about this gfree a lot of people are talking about is.... just go with rage aka the method in the wiki.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
Use the Wiki. The Wiki uses the rage exploit for temp root, then gfree to lock in that root (permanent) and to get full radio S-OFF, SuperCID and SIM unlock.
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steviewevie said:
Use the Wiki. The Wiki uses the rage exploit for temp root, then gfree to lock in that root (permanent) and to get full radio S-OFF, SuperCID and SIM unlock.
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The wiki had great instructions and worked like a charm (albeit I'd already let the OTA install so I had to revert that first )
steviewevie said:
Use the Wiki. The Wiki uses the rage exploit for temp root, then gfree to lock in that root (permanent) and to get full radio S-OFF, SuperCID and SIM unlock.
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I feel like this is going to be the stupidest question but is the "wiki" you refer to the xda-developerscom/wiki?
Meaning refer to the HTC Vision section, and once inside the "Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD" guide?
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I feel like this is going to be the stupidest question but is the "wiki" you refer to the xda-developerscom/wiki?
Meaning refer to the HTC Vision section, and once inside the "Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD" guide?
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Yep, exactly - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
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The wiki had great instructions and worked like a charm (albeit I'd already let the OTA install so I had to revert that first )
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Is that meen -follwing wiki method You won't get Oficial Update (like gingerbread if ever show up)
pawel_podgorski said:
Is that meen -follwing wiki method You won't get Oficial Update (like gingerbread if ever show up)
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If your worried about Gingerbread its already been ported over to this phone, there are several builds already out, and CM7 Nightly builds have just started up, matter of fact im running Gingerbread right now.
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Is that meen -follwing wiki method You won't get Oficial Update (like gingerbread if ever show up)
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"official" updates from tmobile or any other service provider or the hardware vendor... are DANGEROUS. They may make it difficult/impossible to reroot.
Note that despite htc/tmobile having NOT provider a 2.3 image for vision, you can, nevertheless, use 2.3 on vision. Community is faster than OEM.
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Is that meen -follwing wiki method You won't get Oficial Update (like gingerbread if ever show up)
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No, what he is saying is that you still get the OTA updates. But you will likely need to re-root if you install them.
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No, what he is saying is that you still get the OTA updates. But you will likely need to re-root if you install them.
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I thought that you couldn't even receive the via an OTA. And if you did, the Clockwork Recovery would block them from installing, right?
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Hi,
i'm newbie but first of course I read wiki, guides and others about rooting etc.
I've already applied OTA update on my Desire Z. My question is: am I able to root my device and get new non original ROM's and S-OFF? I can't find a straight answer here about it.
second answer is that i run bootloader on my device and choose "simlock" and push power button and somthing was done, then it prompt for restart which i made. What did I do?
Thanks,
Mat
I assume that 'simlock' option would re-do the network lock if you had used a code to unlock,.... I ASSUME.
Use that wiki you have already gone through to find out how to root etc with gfree. It's all in there. Looks pretty straight forward,.... not that I have had time to do it myself just yet.
As far as I know, it's currently impossible to root the new OTA. You'll have to downgrade to the pre-OTA to get root and you can find the guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
Of course, my info might be outdated as I'm a G2 owner and not a DZ owner
EDIT: IT IS POSSIBLE!!!! Just ran across this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886023
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As far as I know, it's currently impossible to root the new OTA. You'll have to downgrade to the pre-OTA to get root and you can find the guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
Of course, my info might be outdated as I'm a G2 owner and not a DZ owner
EDIT: IT IS POSSIBLE!!!! Just ran across this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886023
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Appologies, as Omar said, Wiki is not up to date. Sorry for leading you up a blind ally. I might have a go at updating the wiki later if someone doesn't beat me to it, and if I can grow bigger balls.... don't want to be shouted at if I do something wrong!!
There's a guide on how to get temp root on 1.72 on the dev forum. You can turn that into perm root using the same commands as with the perm root part of rage.
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so i got the promotion to get a free g2 but heres a few questions im thinking that it will come with the latest rom can i root it ive been looking through a ton of guides and im confused what should i do. which method work to gain perma root
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so i got the promotion to get a free g2 but heres a few questions im thinking that it will come with the latest rom can i root it ive been looking through a ton of guides and im confused what should i do. which method work to gain perma root
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It may come with the latest ROM but I more suspect that it will come with the original (shipped) ROM and immediately receive the OTA update. The good news is that there are no issues rooting even if you have the OTA applied (I think some of the rooting guides assume you do) so I would go ahead and apply the OTA if prompted. This is different than the Desire Z where the latest updates can make rooting more complicated.
The most widely recommended method of obtaining permanent root is the "gfree" method, it will permanently root your phone and at the same time will SIM unlock it as well as set the CID so you could load whatever carrier ROM you might want to.
The only issue most people seem to have with using the gfree method is getting ADB up and running and talking to your G2. Using ADB isn't (as far as I know) strictly necessary to make gfree work but it's easiest and all the guides (that I've seen) have you use ADB.
Here is the section of the wiki showing you how to use gfree to root your phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29
For instructions for getting ADB up and running I would look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
Check out unlockr.com on rooting g2. They use the Visionary method. Took me only couple mins.
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Check out unlockr.com on rooting g2. They use the Visionary method. Took me only couple mins.
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Could you please stop telling people to use the VISIONary method!? That method has a risk of putting the user's phone into a boot loop! Please know you what your talking about before attempting to help some one, it can make the difference of bricking a phone and rooting a phone. Rage and GFree DOES NOT have a risk of putting your phone in a boot loop. Out of all the people that have messed up their phone, EVERY ONE of them that I have seen has used the VISIONary method. I'm not trying to be mean, but please be more careful when giving advice. I know your just trying to help, and I respect you for that but please do no tell some one to do the VISIONary method.
Sorry mate, I had no clue bout that. I had no loop but i see your point
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nevermind about my quesiton lol
Thanks for this question, it answered mine so I didn't have to ask. Will be using g-free way shortly.
I have just updated my device with the official Froyo from HTC and then I found out that I haven't heard anything related to rooting this stuff. I really miss my CM7. Just curious about how the official stuff will work and forget this important thing.
I don't want to wait til someone find out how to root it but I think I will have to...
Sad...
---> SOLVED thanks to Chisle31 and others...
........ :F|....Never flash an official update, especially when its been posted that you can't root it...Its simple logic!.....
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rotfl, are you serious?! wow, yeah you're screwed until someone figures out how to root with the new update. this is why people shouldnt be posting links to official unrooted roms. the not so experienced will mess themselves up
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It's possible to root it, but it's NOT possible to S-OFF it (EVER). Root has to be done using a new exploit method that was used to root the newest Desire Z OTA. I did it when I created NB_Mod.
EDIT: What version is the OTA? Check Settings->About phone->Software information->Software number.
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EDIT: What version is the OTA? Check Settings->About phone->Software information->Software number.
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The new software number for the official update is: 2.15.531.3.
Where can I find that root method used on the desire Z?
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Yeah, you guys are right. Been around with Android for just over 6 months so I am still a noob. I don't care much about S-OFF but this is really a blow for me since I am doing fine with RC4.
Hope you guys can find out the fix for me (not with a hammer).
did a search and read in xda archives that ruu is rootable under the previous root method. I dont know how true that is, but try rooting with the latest root method if you flashed the ruu
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It's possible to root it, but it's NOT possible to S-OFF it (EVER). Root has to be done using a new exploit method that was used to root the newest Desire Z OTA. I did it when I created NB_Mod.
EDIT: What version is the OTA? Check Settings->About phone->Software information->Software number.
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what if he was to gain root and then flash the official 2.1 build. would that downgrade the bootloader?
I thought Mod should put a warning sticky so that no one will do the same thing I did.
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what if he was to gain root and then flash the official 2.1 build. would that downgrade the bootloader?
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Normally? Yes, but HTC likes breaking their previous evil-ness records and with the release of HBOOT 1.0 (which the latest OTA is the first to have) they have set the 'Allow Downgrade' flag of HBOOT to 'false.' Why do I know this? I did that on my last Slide when I was patching between OTAs (to build the base for CR_Mod), but fortunately that Slide was having radio hardware issues far before I did that, so I ended up getting a new one under warranty.
When you try to flash the ESPRIMG in hboot, it says something like:
Code:
Flashing: DATA ... Success
Flashing: USERDATA ... Success
Flashing: RCDATA ... Success
Flashing: SYSTEM ... Success
Flashing: BOOTLOADER ... [b]Skipped[/b]
Requesting: Please bend over for HTC, because we love raping you with large telephone poles ... Failed.
Ok, so the last part isn't entirely true (hehehe), but you get the idea.
Only way to fix the problem is to get a replacement or JTAG the NAND and flash a new HBOOT (chances are that if you knew how to do this without frying your phone you wouldn't need me to tell you your options).
nbetcher said:
Normally? Yes, but HTC likes breaking their previous evil-ness records and with the release of HBOOT 1.0 (which the latest OTA is the first to have) they have set the 'Allow Downgrade' flag of HBOOT to 'false.' Why do I know this? I did that on my last Slide when I was patching between OTAs (to build the base for CR_Mod), but fortunately that Slide was having radio hardware issues far before I did that, so I ended up getting a new one under warranty.
When you try to flash the ESPRIMG in hboot, it says something like:
Code:
Flashing: DATA ... Success
Flashing: USERDATA ... Success
Flashing: RCDATA ... Success
Flashing: SYSTEM ... Success
Flashing: BOOTLOADER ... [b]Skipped[/b]
Requesting: Please bend over for HTC, because we love raping you with large telephone poles ... Failed.
Ok, so the last part isn't entirely true (hehehe), but you get the idea.
Only way to fix the problem is to get a replacement or JTAG the NAND and flash a new HBOOT (chances are that if you knew how to do this without frying your phone you wouldn't need me to tell you your options).
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Thats cool of htc, "quietly evil". Wast going to mention the jtag. Lack of knowledge is what got this mess lol. I personally wouldnt even attempt a jtag unless I could fashion a solderless adapter. Soldering is part of my job but when it comes to micro components, its way to risky.
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Anyone knows any idea about who's working on root method for this new official Froyo. Just want to know while "enjoying this stuff". :-(
bearshare said:
Anyone knows any idea about who's working on root method for this new official Froyo. Just want to know while "enjoying this stuff". :-(
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This is the method that I used: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261. It may require tweaking, omitting certain things, or otherwise be completely different, but the basic idea is there.
And remember folks: HBOOT 1.0 is NOT supported by AlphaRev and will probably never be (per IEF, the chief AlphaRev developer)! (HBOOT 1.0 is included in the latest Froyo OTA and it is currently impossible to downgrade from 1.0.)
The worst thing I've ever heard...
Your able to get a Adb shell root with oneclickroot
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Your able to get a Adb shell root with oneclickroot
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You mean I can root this and go back to the previous firmware? Please clarify a bit more since I am not techie enough to do thi on my own. And is it risky to do so?
Root achieved!!!!! will post method tonight
I will be the first one to try that...Can't wait
Sounds like this works: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1025336
I am a noob on Desire HD... how can i root and s-off and install clockworkmod recovery on this phone with 2.3.3 stock rom without downgrading. is it possible?
Not possible, you need to downgrade.
Doesn't GingerBreak allow rooting without a downgrade?
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Doesn't GingerBreak allow rooting without a downgrade?
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from the GingerBreak thread
AGAIN, THIS DOES NOT WORK ON S-ON DEVICES !
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Gingerbreak, from what I understand, will only provide temp root. And the code to disable S-ON does not work on HTC Gingerbread. So once you reboot, All changes are rolled back.
To install ClockworkMod Recovery its needed to downgrade, root, apply ENG/S-OFF, upgrade again (2.3 strangely does not restore S-ON), Gingerbreak (If your lucky and it works), flash recovery.
EDIT: I need to start typing quicker, ghostofcain beat me to it.
I tried Gingerbreak at first. it worked. but with a reboot all of changes vanished!
is there any way to first S-Off the phone and then use the Gingerbreak without the Downgrading... Downgrading is truely a pain in the ass!
If you have lost S-OFF (back to S-ON) then no, you will have to downgrade first.
Not helping much....
No offence but I read these forums all the time and its a bit tiring when someone asks a questions and they only get half an answer and not a very helpful one at that.
Ok so you can't root the DHD running stock 2.3.3 without downgrading first.
So how about pointing the people in need of help in the right direction then?!
How do you downgrade? Is it possible?
Moadeeb77 said:
How do you downgrade?
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Is it possible?
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Yes - See above.
Moadeeb77 said:
So how about pointing the people in need of help in the right direction then?!
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Ok, May I direct your attention to the development forum (use the links top left) and the forum rules - Rule 1 = Search before posting.
Moadeeb77 said:
No offence but I read these forums all the time and its a bit tiring when someone asks a questions and they only get half an answer and not a very helpful one at that.
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Offence taken. A question was asked and answered.
I had to search the forum to get you that link. You could have done that too. See Forum Rule #1.
pymebrahimi said:
I tried Gingerbreak at first. it worked. but with a reboot all of changes vanished!
is there any way to first S-Off the phone and then use the Gingerbreak without the Downgrading... Downgrading is truely a pain in the ass!
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Its worth the pain mate;-)
I do downgrading , and everything else. But now when i start system update , I don't have 2.3.3 , i can only upgrade to 2.2.1 . What to do ?
I just got a Desire HD and upgraded from 2.1 to 2.3.3 with build number 2.36.408.8
silly question (even know i know the answer)
Do i have to downgrade to root my desire hd???
delevic said:
I do downgrading , and everything else. But now when i start system update , I don't have 2.3.3 , i can only upgrade to 2.2.1 . What to do ?
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better use custom rom from Development thread, far better than stock 2.3.3
pahildo said:
I just got a Desire HD and upgraded from 2.1 to 2.3.3 with build number 2.36.408.8
silly question (even know i know the answer)
Do i have to downgrade to root my desire hd???
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Yes
Mr_JMM said:
Doesn't GingerBreak allow rooting without a downgrade?
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GingerBreak ????? what's that? a sequel to Prison Break?????
metallics said:
GingerBreak ????? what's that? a sequel to Prison Break?????
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This is it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765
what's the reason you don't want to downgrade?
Not sure if this has been said or not but:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/how-to-root-the-htc-desire-hd/
It's as easy as "download, run" and it works brilliantly!
I suggest you just boot a Ubuntu Live CD (it's not as bad as it sounds, I actually liked it the first time I tried it and now I have it installed by my Windows) and just run the command:
wget http://droid.neolobster.com/roms/aahk-25102011.zip && unzip aahk-25102011.zip && sudo ./hack-ace.sh
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in terminal, press "1" and be afk for 5 mins.
Doesn't erase your data, doesn't format your phone, doesn't downgrade your Android OS. It...it just works!
Good luck with it
Advanced Ace Hack Kit worked great for me on my inspire 4g!
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Advanced Ace Hack Kit worked great for me on my inspire 4g!
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This worked great for me as well, took about 5 minutes.
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friend need help i installed HTC Gingerbread which the up on developer website on 1st of aug. now i want to downgrade it to stock froyo.
how to do?
help
Oh i dunno maybe if you put this question in the right place then yes it would be answers for you..
There is a Q&A section for you to put this question in don't waste developers time and mods time by putting your question here. you will get flamed just a fair warning I'm not mad just saying...
Dont think its possible Teppic74's downgrader wouldn't work on the ARA build, so doubt it will work like this.
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friend need help i installed HTC Gingerbread which the up on developer website on 1st of aug. now i want to downgrade it to stock froyo.
how to do?
help
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You should had to ask this in your mind before flashing an RUU that contain an hboot update!
Go to www.shipped-roms.com and find the froyo RUU and flash it, it should downgrade your hboot and you should be able to root again. If you have a branded desire you’re going to need goldcard.
I you dont know how to Flash a RUU use the search function
3f1f37 said:
Go to www.shipped-roms.com and find the froyo RUU and flash it, it should downgrade your hboot and you should be able to root again. If you have a branded desire you’re going to need goldcard.
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It's reported to not work! The new hboot does not allow to flash an older hboot.
An S-off could have protected him. Have you tried the new AlpharevX to try and S-Off ur device? If it works, you can reverse the process later.
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An S-off could have protected him. Have you tried the new AlpharevX to try and S-Off ur device? If it works, you can reverse the process later.
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The new s-off tool wont work, it says that your device is currently unsupported.
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The new s-off tool wont work, it says that your device is currently unsupported.
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Try their irc channel as well. It could be a 'soft' incompatibility, wherein they've disabled it because they havent yet tested it.
Is there no other rootable rom of the same hboot?
1. wrong section
2. every time the same, people will first flash and ask questions later
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1. wrong section
2. every time the same, people will first flash and ask questions later
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1. Agreed
2. Agreed.
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My downgrade tool almost certainly won't work on this. However, if someone manages to root this version, there's a good chance it will.
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My downgrade tool almost certainly won't work on this. However, if someone manages to root this version, there's a good chance it will.
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Paul Obrien did. Someone might ask him how to
he also flashed the hboot that came with the update.
Flashmaniac said:
Paul Obrien did. Someone might ask him how to
he also flashed the hboot that came with the update.
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If I not wrong, was a temp root anyway. But if Paul flashed the new hboot, this is a good news for those that flashed it too. He will of course find the way to change rom
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1. Agreed
2. Agreed.
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I agree as well, but in the meantime there possibly are a few thousand Desire users who want this problem solved. Another possibility is that people who waited for the GB-update want to root after this disappointing update. They also might be potential donators (including me), so please get root for the official GB-update up and running!
Thanks in advance!
Hello mates, i'm having the same issue, just want to downgrade back to froyo and i can't do it because of the hboot . i've tried with unrewoked, went to shipped roms but nothing succeded.. can you please, tell me if someone managed to fix it ? thanks.
I know its frustrating but you will probably have to wait, keep an eye on the Desire Android Development section, I'm sure when theres a fix the devs will post it up there for you
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Just read on a dutch forum that the unrevoked / alpharev guys will release a new version of their root/s-off tool, probably next week, with support for the desire new hboot! http://revolutionary.io/
The dutch forum post: http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/36540480#36540480
lovalim said:
Just read on a dutch forum that the unrevoked / alpharev guys will release a new version of their root/s-off tool, probably next week, with support for the desire new hboot! http://revolutionary.io/
The dutch forum post: http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/36540480#36540480
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I wouldn't read too much into that necessarily. A post on this forum thought I was working on rooting desire 2.3
Unfortunately your link is in dutch, so I cannot see any "official Sources" in it.
Well I stand corrected.
http://revolutionary.io/
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