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What's the safest guide?

Sup guys just got my G2 and I'm set to perm root it. Just a quick question though,
with all the different guides and the wiki which is the most thorough and safest?
I'm not new to android or rooting. I've owned and rooted a G1, N1, and a MT3GS.
So I don't necessarily need a noob guide. Which method do you say is the best?

Definetly the rage method. Visionary is quite dangerous and a lot of people ended up semi-bricking their phones. Not sure about this gfree a lot of people are talking about is.... just go with rage aka the method in the wiki.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.

Use the Wiki. The Wiki uses the rage exploit for temp root, then gfree to lock in that root (permanent) and to get full radio S-OFF, SuperCID and SIM unlock.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z

steviewevie said:
Use the Wiki. The Wiki uses the rage exploit for temp root, then gfree to lock in that root (permanent) and to get full radio S-OFF, SuperCID and SIM unlock.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
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The wiki had great instructions and worked like a charm (albeit I'd already let the OTA install so I had to revert that first )

steviewevie said:
Use the Wiki. The Wiki uses the rage exploit for temp root, then gfree to lock in that root (permanent) and to get full radio S-OFF, SuperCID and SIM unlock.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
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I feel like this is going to be the stupidest question but is the "wiki" you refer to the xda-developerscom/wiki?
Meaning refer to the HTC Vision section, and once inside the "Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD" guide?

gordomao said:
I feel like this is going to be the stupidest question but is the "wiki" you refer to the xda-developerscom/wiki?
Meaning refer to the HTC Vision section, and once inside the "Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD" guide?
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Yep, exactly - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD

zkid2010 said:
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The wiki had great instructions and worked like a charm (albeit I'd already let the OTA install so I had to revert that first )
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Is that meen -follwing wiki method You won't get Oficial Update (like gingerbread if ever show up)

pawel_podgorski said:
Is that meen -follwing wiki method You won't get Oficial Update (like gingerbread if ever show up)
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If your worried about Gingerbread its already been ported over to this phone, there are several builds already out, and CM7 Nightly builds have just started up, matter of fact im running Gingerbread right now.

pawel_podgorski said:
Is that meen -follwing wiki method You won't get Oficial Update (like gingerbread if ever show up)
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"official" updates from tmobile or any other service provider or the hardware vendor... are DANGEROUS. They may make it difficult/impossible to reroot.
Note that despite htc/tmobile having NOT provider a 2.3 image for vision, you can, nevertheless, use 2.3 on vision. Community is faster than OEM.

pawel_podgorski said:
Is that meen -follwing wiki method You won't get Oficial Update (like gingerbread if ever show up)
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No, what he is saying is that you still get the OTA updates. But you will likely need to re-root if you install them.

redpoint73 said:
No, what he is saying is that you still get the OTA updates. But you will likely need to re-root if you install them.
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I thought that you couldn't even receive the via an OTA. And if you did, the Clockwork Recovery would block them from installing, right?

So need help perm rooting

Okay I have a G2, just got it and I need to perm root it. I looked at the sticky guide but most of the links aren't loading for me, don't know why, either thread isn't there or link expired or w/e. I don't know, but I need some help.
First, how do I find out if I have 1.72 or an earlier version
Second, do I use "rage"? method or VISIONary and what's the latest version of visionary?
Third, about how long does the process take?
Any help is appreciated.

James_Caliber said:
Okay I have a G2, just got it and I need to perm root it. I looked at the sticky guide but most of the links aren't loading for me, don't know why, either thread isn't there or link expired or w/e. I don't know, but I need some help.
First, how do I find out if I have 1.72 or an earlier version
Second, do I use "rage"? method or VISIONary and what's the latest version of visionary?
Third, about how long does the process take?
Any help is appreciated.
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Every thing you need to know about rooting is in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision just start reading from Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD or you can read the whole page. Don't use VISIONary, you have a chance of getting stuck in a boot loop, use Rage and GFree. You'll need the android SDK to get ADB. I'm not sure how long rooting takes, I haven't done it yet as I don't have my G2 until next week but I have been reading about root for the past week. From what I know, 1.72 is only if you have a Desire Z. If you have any more questions, I'm sure me or another member can answer you.

KoolKidsKlub said:
Every thing you need to know about rooting is in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision just start reading from Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD or you can read the whole page. Don't use VISIONary, you have a chance of getting stuck in a boot loop, use Rage and GFree. You'll need the android SDK to get ADB. I'm not sure how long rooting takes, I haven't done it yet as I don't have my G2 until next week but I have been reading about root for the past week. From what I know, 1.72 is only if you have a Desire Z. If you have any more questions, I'm sure me or another member can answer you.
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Do you know what the 1.72 # refers to? Is it the build number or something else?
Thanks a lot for your help though. I'll start reading

James_Caliber said:
Do you know what the 1.72 # refers to? Is it the build number or something else?
Thanks a lot for your help though. I'll start reading
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If you have a Tmobile G2 (from your first post, I assume you do) you don't need to worry about 1.72 it for the Desire Z. There are three methods to root with, them being Visionary, Rage, gfree. Gfree by far has caused the least amount of problems. If you know ADB rooting should be pretty simple, just follow the wiki on rooting with gfree. If your not familiar with ADB, there are methods to root without having to use it. But its always good and recommended to have it installed and running. There are guide here to help walk you thru it, but if for some reason its to difficult or you don't quite understand it, like I said there are methods to root with out it. There is a modified way to run gfree with your home computer and terminal emulator on your phone. Also the visionary method too, now many people have had problems with visionary, I'm not one of them, it is how I rooted my phone, but I can't stress the importance of reading and putting the time into understanding what you are and want to do to modify your phone, far to many people act before understanding and run into many problems including bricking there phones, I know some of the threads are really long in this forum but that's no excuse, whenever I try something new I read the entire thread first start to finish because any problems you may have, the solution has probably already been givin somewhere in the thread. There is no rush to jump into something you don't understand, my suggestion is to invest the time to read and understand how to root you phone first.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Even if you root using rage, you can still install and use gfree on your phone. I can confirm that it works.
Just stay away from Visionary.

blackknightavalon said:
Even if you root using rage, you can still install and use gfree on your phone. I can confirm that it works.
Just stay away from Visionary.
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This.
This is my first Android phone and I was able to follow the Wiki and root it pretty easily. The only part I didnt do was installing the Engineering Hboot. Just cause it is labeled as optional and unnecessary and the warning about bricked phones scared me away from it.
This ADB Guide for Noobs was pretty helpful in the process too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
With that link and the Wiki your all set.

boost3d23 said:
This.
This is my first Android phone and I was able to follow the Wiki and root it pretty easily. The only part I didnt do was installing the Engineering Hboot. Just cause it is labeled as optional and unnecessary and the warning about bricked phones scared me away from it.
This ADB Guide for Noobs was pretty helpful in the process too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
With that link and the Wiki your all set.
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You're missing out with the engineering bootloader. You'll have more recovery options with it installed.

blackknightavalon said:
You're missing out with the engineering bootloader. You'll have more recovery options with it installed.
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I might install it later on, if that is possible and wont cause issues.

boost3d23 said:
I might install it later on, if that is possible and wont cause issues.
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Yeah that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to root the phone then when I feel more comfortable, I'm going to flash the engineering HBOOT. It's not that I'm scared, well I sorta am but I would rather not do something that isn't necessary. I'm coming from a rooted G1 so I know what it does and everything, I just don't think its necessary. The way I look at is is this, if you flash the HBOOT then your a lot safer because you can use fastboot flash to save your self from a semi-brick, but at the same time, flashing the HBOOT is also dangerous because you can brick your phone beyond repair.

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Sorry guys, I know this is an old thread, but isn't it better to post on something existing rather than creating a new thread? Hopefully I'm right...
Anyhow, I'm a Sprint convert and I now have the G2. Rooting the Samsung Epic I had was super easy, because I downloaded a one-click script that did everything for me. However, I'm fairly tech-savvy and accomplished just about everything for the rooting procedures using gfree and rage.
However, when I use gfree_verify, I get the message 'verify could not initialize the device!'. I think I run into my problem when I get to this part:
# /data/local/tmp/root
# sync
when I run the first line, I get a message about file existing that it says to expect... but it also says that "the rest of the script should still run ok". Well, after I get the file existing message, it goes back to the prompt. If there was a script that ran after that message, wouldn't I see other messages before it returned to the prompt?
I hope I'm making sense... and I hope I posted this in the right place. I'm dying to get a Sense ROM on my phone, but I need to get some sleep for work tomorrow. Any help that everyone could provide would be EXTREMELY appreciated Thanks so much!!
...EDIT...
Apparently, despite my lack of luck with verification, root is in place in my phone and has stayed after reboot. I've flashed clockwork and have used Superuser access... all seems to be well! Thanks anyway

yes.. probs rooting.

Hey all, new here to posting although use this site alot for the quick fix answers ive had in the past.
How ever decided i would try rooting my desire z as i was looking for that extra control over everything and to loose some of that bloatware just like many of you.
Only thing im having trouble with is actually getting a successful root, im not one to just ask without looking of course but in actual fact ive been at this since 11ish this morning (8hours ago) with no luck. Ive tried about 5 different methods (from xda users such as 'Aegishua' and 'gtrab' guides to a random google searchs also) to no luck at all. Had quite a fair few errors pop up during the process of trying but so far my DZ is still intact and working fine but with S-ON still.
Im not here to ask for someone to explain a fool proof way to root my phone i was just hoping that someone may b able to point me in the right direction of a guide that should hopefully bring some success.
I have an unbranded Desire Z running 2.2.1 (originally 2.2) on Vodafone UK. i could list software details but im hoping someone could either tell me i can't root it since the new security update in 2.2.1 or could pass on a link to a guide that may work for me.
Sorry to sound long winded but its been a day full of "wtf's" amungst other phrases so im just a little lost and confused
Thanks in advance
Matt

if you have adb working and are comfortable with it, use the wiki method..
do you know what firmware version you are? if you are 1.72 or above, you need to downgrade to 1.34 before you will be able to root successfully.

Check in dev section, there is something bout debranding and rooting for DZ and shows what newly one has issue, also you could try the xda wiki methond gfreev.05

pmcqueen said:
if you have adb working and are comfortable with it, use the wiki method..
do you know what firmware version you are? if you are 1.72 or above, you need to downgrade to 1.34 before you will be able to root successfully.
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Before trying to root you need to follow the step above. This is mainly the mistake people make when they try to root the Desire Z if your a new comer, this is words from the wise. Lol

Your firmware is probably 1.85 or something higher than 1.72 by the looks of things which just means you need to downgrade. But the complicated part is actually getting the downgrade to recognize your vodafone branded Desire Z's unique CID. That's where a goldcard comes in handy because it bypasses the CID check.
Anyways, all you need to do is make a goldcard to downgrade. If you get any errors then post the exact errors word for word if possible.

[Q] How can I downgrade my DINC 2 from 2.3 to 2.2?

Hi,
Verizon is pushing out OTA updates to install Android 2.3. I'd like to downgrade to Android 2.2, and prevent the OTA from happening in the future. Is there a way to do this?
Cheers

Only if u are s off already.
Sent from my DINC2 in Yuma, AZ

Sorry, but currently there isn't a way. (with the exception of the xtc clip).
Hopefully alpharevx/unrevoked will get temp root on GB and allow s-off.

No. But you can do some searches and find out.
Please read/search before posting. Thank you.
Sent from my ADR6350 using XDA Premium App

I, too, was unfortunate enough to receive the Gingerbread OTA update with no confirmation or anything. The funny thing is that I clicked cancel after it downloaded it, which did nothing. What's even more funny is that this is replacing a previous Droid Incredible 2 which already had S-OFF and CM7.
For anyone trying to downgrade to Froyo using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033922 -- it doesn't work, so forget about wasting your time.

i dont know if you've read this thread already http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1298990 but apparently it works, too bad im sorta new to this so i dunno how to do it myself xD if any1 is down to make a video or slide tutorial of how to follow these steps i am sure it would save the world for us inc2 unrooted users who want to root

it works, but its via adb only. Afterwards, using Revolutionary you can get s-off. The instructions are for downgrading to get s-off. Basically reverting back to .97 bootloader.

dcg87 said:
i dont know if you've read this thread already http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1298990 but apparently it works, too bad im sorta new to this so i dunno how to do it myself xD if any1 is down to make a video or slide tutorial of how to follow these steps i am sure it would save the world for us inc2 unrooted users who want to root
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It does work, I used this method to downgrade today, i was able to gain s-off and flash cyanogenmod after. It isn't the easiest method for novices though. But the instructions are pretty clear. I had problems running the automated script included (i was in debian linux, so i cant speak for the windows script). However when I executed the commands in the script manually, everything worked . I would imagine that someone will package this method up nicely before too long...
Thanks
attn1 (for putting this all together in an understandable way)
Revolutionary - for everything they do
Ch4lky - zergRush
Scotty2 - misc_version

Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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[Q] BEST Root Guide For G2

Okay,
All I want to know is the best way to perm root my HTC G2. I have google searched and went through forums on xda and a few other sites. And all it did was give me a headache. Lol If anyone can help me with this, Please get back to me via this post or pm me. Thanks for your time! >_<

The Wiki method. Here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
XDA User strawmetal had also done a detailed guide but I can't find it now.

The gfree/visionary method is another option that is pretty safe and easy, if you're still on 2.2. Not to be confused with the visionary perm root method.
The wiki method is the best way, but can be difficult if you don't know how to use adb. If you need to downgrade your phone, you'll have to learn adb anyway.

Please don't go anywhere near the Visionary tool. Use the method in the XDA Wiki. It might look confusing at first, but read it carefully and if you don't understand something then ask about it here, there are plenty of people who can help you.
There's a guide to setting up and using adb linked from my signature (if you are reading via a brower and not something like the XDA app).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

Use the wiki method. It looks confusing but once you get into it it is not hard at all. Just follow the instructions to the letter.
sent from my dz

Sweetness!
Thanks Guys! I will go with the wiki guide as I'm familiar with adb and I have 2.3.4, So do I downgrade?

Yes, you have to downgrade first.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

How long should phone take to reboot after final step in gaining S-OFF
Have a quick question. Followed Strawmetal's guide for my G2, for both downgrading and gaining perm root. Got to final step both MD5#2 and MD5#3 checksums matched as they should. All previous steps matched also. So the final step then is type reboot. I did so, phone rebooted, but now 5 minutes later it's still on the "htc" screen. Impatient noob or brick?

It's not a brick if it displays anything ;P

Mounta1n said:
Have a quick question. Followed Strawmetal's guide for my G2, for both downgrading and gaining perm root. Got to final step both MD5#2 and MD5#3 checksums matched as they should. All previous steps matched also. So the final step then is type reboot. I did so, phone rebooted, but now 5 minutes later it's still on the "htc" screen. Impatient noob or brick?
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Any update?
I actually think I may have even done a battery pull around then... but I'm not quite sure and would not suggest it.