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[WARNING] Do not flash a new official RUU/ROM/OTA if you have root and/or S-OFF

DO NOT FLASH A NEW RUU OR OFFICIAL ROM IMAGE UNLESS YOU *REALLY* KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING !
Sorry for shouting, but this is very important. Thanks to the mods for making this sticky.
The latest official RUU that has been released - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870369 - has been found to break the existing methods of rooting and getting full S-OFF.
This shouldn't be a big suprise, because when HTC saw that the amazing devs on XDA had cracked the existing security, we should expect them to put something even tougher in later releases.
So flashing any later release, whether that's an official RUU or just the ROM image (PC10IMG.zip) is a very dangerous thing to do until it has been fully tested and "cleared" by the devs here. i.e. your previously rooted and S-OFF'd phone might lose root and go back to S-ON, and be unable to be rooted and S-OFF'd again.
It's of course fine if your phone came with a particular ROM release to flash that *exact same* release back onto the phone if you want to return to stock. What I'm referring to is flashing a brand new release that isn't the one that came with your phone.
It's fine to flash custom ROMs of course, because those have already been tested out. In general, it's probably best to steer very clear of new official releases, and wait till the devs have pulled them apart and put any cool new stuff into a custom ROM. Then you know it'll be safe to flash.
Currently I don't think it's entirely clear what just flashing a new *radio* on its own will do, as opposed to the entire ROM/RUU. That's still being worked on. But steer clear of even that if you're not sure what you're doing or dont' want to take any chances of losing root/S-OFF.
Thanks for reading

Thanks for the heads up.

I flashed the ROM you mentioned.
For those who want to try:
Just remember to get REAL S-OFF using gfree before flashing it.
This provide you a medicine for regret. You can get back to WWE ROM using WWE RUU and root/recover your old ROM.

What is RUU? What is it to do with ROMs? Did HTC provide a change log for newer Radio? Or does anyone know what changes are , in the latest Radio?
Just to be clear. Don’t flame me for this please. I’m still learning just like many others in here.

androidtoy09 said:
What is RUU? What is it to do with ROMs? Did HTC provide a change log for newer Radio? Or does anyone know what changes are , in the latest Radio?
Just to be clear. Don’t flame me for this please. I’m still learning just like many others in here.
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We don't have a changelog, no.
RUU is ROM Update Utility. It's a program to run on Windows (.exe) which flashes your new ROM for you, and holds your hand through the process. It's possible to extract just the ROM zip file from the exe so you can flash it yourself if you want.
The thing about the RUU and stock ROMs is that they will flash pretty much *everything* on your phone. So as well as a new system partition (the main stuff for Android), you'll probably get a new hboot, new radio, new recovery. Those *might* all have increased security which is a lot more difficult to crack. So generally you should not flash it until we know it's "safe" to do so, i.e. it can be re-rooted and S-OFF'd etc.

steviewevie said:
We don't have a changelog, no.
RUU is ROM Update Utility. It's a program to run on Windows (.exe) which flashes your new ROM for you, and holds your hand through the process. It's possible to extract just the ROM zip file from the exe so you can flash it yourself if you want.
The thing about the RUU and stock ROMs is that they will flash pretty much *everything* on your phone. So as well as a new system partition (the main stuff for Android), you'll probably get a new hboot, new radio, new recovery. Those *might* all have increased security which is a lot more difficult to crack. So generally you should not flash it until we know it's "safe" to do so, i.e. it can be re-rooted and S-OFF'd etc.
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Ok, thanks for clearing it up. So, RUU is pretty much similar to the method RIM uses to flash its OS on the Blackberries.

Im a little confused here.. So just to clear some things up i hope someone will answer these questions i have.
I have the software on my Desire Z that it came with (1.34.405.5), which i've rooted, S-off'ed and installed another kernel for OC porpuses. This is working fine, but lets say that i wanted to try another rom .. After some time i decide to go back to the stock software and then update to the newest software, would that be a problem? And has HTC released some newer software than the one iam using?

If you flashed back to stock, that would be fine. But if you flashed a new official update (e.g OTA), then you run the risk of installing something that you can't root/S-OFF.
It is best to steer clear of any official upgrades until they've been checked by the devs here and been given the all-clear.
Given that the phone came with certain areas write-protected, and the devs managed to crack that, we should be expecting HTC to release an even more secure update.
Yes, there is a new ROM out, at the moment for Egypt, that seems to have increased security. It would not be a suprise if HTC rolled out similar security as an OTA update for all existing ROMs. Right now there is something in that Egypt ROM (probably the hboot, at the minimum) which mean existing permanent root and S-OFF methods fail. It may be this is easily cracked again, or maybe it will take some time, who knows.
Bottom line - don't apply any official updates to your phone if it is rooted/S-OFF or you plan to root/S-OFF.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z

perm-rooted g2 stock tmobile rom s-off
ok, my question is....i perm-rooted my g2 and have s-off, does this mean that i cant except the new gingerbread OTA update? ive had my fill of flashing roms with my old windows phone.. att tilt, tmobile touch pro 2, and tmobile hd2. im not looking to flash my g2 with a new rom...no offense to the chefs. love there work. but i only rooted the g2 to get rid of the bs apps that tmobile and google added to the phone. and i thought i heard that wen u root the phone tmobile cant tell wen u tether, so there for no more throttle b/s but thats not true...i must have miss read. but i would like to stay w/the stock rom and still b able to install the Gingerbread OTA. please someone provide an answer for me or point me in the right direction. thank you in advance.... sorry if the answer is already provided somewhere and i over looked it, i tend to do that a lot.

blitz69 said:
ok, my question is....i perm-rooted my g2 and have s-off, does this mean that i cant except the new gingerbread OTA update? ive had my fill of flashing roms with my old windows phone.. att tilt, tmobile touch pro 2, and tmobile hd2. im not looking to flash my g2 with a new rom...no offense to the chefs. love there work. but i only rooted the g2 to get rid of the bs apps that tmobile and google added to the phone. and i thought i heard that wen u root the phone tmobile cant tell wen u tether, so there for no more throttle b/s but thats not true...i must have miss read. but i would like to stay w/the stock rom and still b able to install the Gingerbread OTA. please someone provide an answer for me or point me in the right direction. thank you in advance.... sorry if the answer is already provided somewhere and i over looked it, i tend to do that a lot.
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The trouble is, HTC/T-Mobile don't want you to root and/or S-OFF your phone, because it's a lot easier to end up bricking the phone if you don't know what you're doing. They put greatly increased security on the G2/DZ/DHD when they came out, in order to help prevent this.
Now this security has been cracked, we can expect HTC/T-Mobile to try and increase security even further (e.g. closing loopholes that let our current methods of root/S-OFF work) in future updates.
So if you accept any future OTA, you run a high risk of accepting something that will lock you out of root and S-OFF, at least temporarily, and possibly permanently (depending on how good a solution they come up with).
If you are not bothered about root/S-OFF, then that's fine of course.
This doesn't mean that you necessarily have to switch to a custom ROM to get updates though. If you stay with the stock ROM (and I'm still on a stock ROM too right now), then just do not accept the update when an OTA comes out, and keep checking these forums to see when the devs say that they can root/S-OFF with the new version. When they say it's ok then you know you can apply the update and still get root/S-OFF.
This already happened with the G2. Very soon after release, but after rooting had been achieved, there was an OTA. Most people here decided to wait until the OTA had been looked at, and sure enough there was a small adjustment needed to the rooting method. But of course this OTA was before HTC had a chance to respond to the cracking of the security, so as I said, any future updates may well require a lot more time and effort from the devs to investigate and crack again.

Ok. Thank you very much

Will this muff up my phone if I factory reset it by using the Power+Volume Down option?

Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!

Ganii said:
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
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What do you mean with gfree?
Is my waranty broken When i execute radio s-off?
Is it possible to make it radio s-on?

Yes,warranty is broken,but with the new gfree method
you can go back to S-ON:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2

ericjosepi said:
Will this muff up my phone if I factory reset it by using the Power+Volume Down option?
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If you do a factory reset then I think you'll lose root, but you can get it back again easily enough. The issue for this thread is flashing new updated stuff from HTC etc.

Ganii said:
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
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You might still need that backup, e.g. if you don't know what your old CID was and you want to un-do that bit too. I would keep it.
Sorry I don't think I understand your last question though, or why you say the uberroot method (I'm personally not keen on that name, it's just the usual method using Visionary/rage with gfree, not a new method) doesn't work.

Ok,so I can go back to S-ON with gfree commands from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
If you are only interested in permanent root you only need radio S-OFF and then it is sufficient to use
# ./gfree -s off
instead of
# ./gfree -f
in the following commands.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON by using the "-s on" option and to change the CID back to the original value be using i.e. "-c T-MOB010" if you want or have to go back.
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But for CID (you mean SuperCid right?) I need the backup?
And with the last question which you don`t understand,I mean
with flashing the HTC RUU 1.34.405.5 I don`t go back to S-ON
and original CID whether I use UBERROT method or this from here:
(Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2

Thanks for the advice, I will stick myself with the current rom for a while

Ganii said:
Ok,so I can go back to S-ON with gfree commands from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
But for CID (you mean SuperCid right?) I need the backup?
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Yes, I mean to go from your SuperCID back to your regular CID. You might not know what your original CID was.
And with the last question which you don`t understand,I mean
with flashing the HTC RUU 1.34.405.5 I don`t go back to S-ON
and original CID whether I use UBERROT method or this from here:
(Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
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Yes, if you flash a stock ROM then it won't affect your S-OFF and CID status (or SIM unlock). These are stored in your radio configuration partition, and not in any of the partitions which are overwritten by the ROM flash.

[Q] Rooting 1.72.405.3 (2.2.1)

I just got a Desire HD with those software specs:
Firmware Version 1.72.405.3, Android 2.2.1 kernel 2.6.32.21-g3d0aaff (htc-kernel and18-2 #1).
I would like to remove all Ads by editing the hosts file (or using AdFree-App). However, I need root access for that and I didn't manage to get it using Visionary+.
I searched the forums and read something about Visionary not (yet) working for that kind of system, so I wonder if there is another way to do it.
I do not want to change my ROM! I just want temproot and rw access to change the hosts file and then I will not need root anymore.
Does anyone know how to do that? Thanks in advance!

Hi,
At present HTC fixed the exploit that Visionary+ used to root the DHD. There is no way back unless your DHD had Radio S-OFF prior to the update.

hm, no i dont think it had that...well seems that i have to wait for another version of visionary (or any other tool...) =(

Any chance
Wondering if anybody knows if it will eventually be possible to root this version anytime soon?? If not how do I downgrade?? Can anyone link me somewhere I can find out Thanks

I am not 100% sure but I think to downgrade you needed to have Radio S-OFF applied prior to the update.

ErOR22 said:
I am not 100% sure but I think to downgrade you needed to have Radio S-OFF applied prior to the update.
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This.
Sent by the air.

At the moment you'll just have to curse yourself for not getting an older rootable one, hopefully there is a root method for 2.2.1 soon

HTC DZ Bell Update

I updated my phone to 1.82.666 and I can't root anymore... anyway how to? I need permroot for Titanium backup... Is there anyway to permroot at this or do I need to downgrade (last resort)?? Is there an updated VISIONary? I still have r14
Thanks
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

downgrade
I think you need to downgrade

Any official ROM version 1.72 or later is not yeet rootable. You will need to downgrade.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#December_2010_DZ_OTA_1.72_Update

Thanks... so I do need to downgrade... the HTC stocks app is sucking up my data plan dry and I don't even use it... so I really need TB to freeze it... it uses up about 20 megs a day... I already disabled it sync and all, but still no effect... still uses up all my data...
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Any official ROM version 1.72 or later is not yeet rootable.
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So we are eagerly waiting for xda people to work on this issue. At least for 1.72
Keeping thumbs.

Maxymo123 said:
So we are eagerly waiting for xda people to work on this issue. At least for 1.72
Keeping thumbs.
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A lot of the new froyo roms (i.e virtuous)are based off 1.85, i don't see why you have to wait ..just sayin

redpoint73 said:
Any official ROM version 1.72 or later is not yeet rootable. You will need to downgrade.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#December_2010_DZ_OTA_1.72_Update
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Tried to downgrade, but keep getting a Model ID error, so I can't downgrade... was doing the downgrade instructions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261 but I'm stuck at step 11, which is installing that lower version rom.... tried to create goldcard, still no... was reading further and maybe a little info should help
Bought phone, rooted through visionary... and that's it... no s-off, no supercid, etc... so I guess I'm screwed (or stuck with this) until they get a workaround about this... am I right? or can I still downgrade?

Whoa, I think I was able to downgrade using the official 1.34 update posted here on XDA... I'm not sure if I can root and s-off, but I'd do my best to see if I can....
Android version:
2.2
Baseband:
12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.18_M3
Kernel:
2.6.32.21 Oct 18 2010
Build:
1.34.66.1

eff yeah, I think I got root and s-off (I don't care about sim unlock, I "unlocked" my phone way back already, where I had to pay and didn't know I can unlock this for free)
gotta check it out now, will report back
** what I did, well, I did the tutorials, and failed.... did a little bit of research and said that I can "probably" downgrade by "updating" to an older version,... so I went ahead and tried,.. I downloaded the 1.34 posted here at XDA, and installed it on the PC.. it went through it's thing... phone restarded like new, went through the setup, checked "about phone" and I did downgrade to 1.34... so now, not wasting anytime did the rooting and s-off process.... WIN!

redpoint73 said:
Any official ROM version 1.72 or later is not yeet rootable. You will need to downgrade.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#December_2010_DZ_OTA_1.72_Update
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Oh BTW, this was from 1.84.666.1 down to 1.34.666.1
well, accidentally updated to 1.84, when I had 1.72 and was able to root using VISIONary+....
now, I'm at 1.34 and can't wait to check out other ROMS, heh
sorry, I now feel I kinda spammed this thread on my own

So, it sounds like you just edited your DZs version number using misc_version and installed this?

theSpam said:
So, it sounds like you just edited your DZs version number using misc_version and installed this?
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Yes, I suspect that allowed me to downgrade... although installing through SD didn't work, the pc update worked to downgrade
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Downgrading 2.50.405.2 to 1.32 ?

Hi,
I just got my dhd back from repair and they updated it to 2.50.405.2 -.-
Is this downgradable yet to root ? I ****in hate standard roms
Please help..
Thanks

i think versions above 2.37 can't be downgraded yet.
i am waiting for downgrade of 2.42 as well. just wait

I to have 2.50.405.2 after repair.
I found rooted this version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155634&highlight=2.50.405.2
But dont know will it help to change ROM.
If some one will find some solution please share it.
gingerbreak 1.2 not working with 2.50

Well, u need clockworkmod to flash it which u need rom manager for. And for rom manager u need root
I think we'll have to wait.. But the 2.37+ downgrade has been in development for about 2 months now.. Taking way to long

Probably waiting to see which bootloaders are unlocked, as promised.
Due out in September.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?

+Nybras+ said:
Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?
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If u are S-OFF then u can downgrade to 2.36 by using the RUU version then root ur device,
edit:- i´ve done it more than 3times after updating from 2.36 to 2.50 "OTA" (believe me u can)
U can get the 2.36 ruu here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13381205

So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
Sent from my Desire HD

dwyaneW said:
So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
Sent from my Desire HD
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Now you can..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233
I was waiting for this too, and now it seems like we can downgrade and root our devices. What could worst case scenario be, if something went wrong?
Have you ever rooted a device before?

Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
Sent from my Desire HD

dwyaneW said:
Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
Sent from my Desire HD
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Dont worry, in a couple of hours we'll have an updated method and toolkit available to downgrade.
Edit: My Method and Toolkit have been updated.
http://driphter.com/index.php?topic=3867.0

Thanks a lot ,,, Guide from JSLEnterprises was so amazing and very helpful
can't wait to get my new ROM !

Edit:
DONE!
DHD is now rooted with Radio and ENG S-OFF.
Thank you so much.
Now moving on to flash another rom, and try and figure the whole fing about the radio out..

I successfully downgraded and rooted my desire hd 2.42.415 at last. Thanks a million JSLEnterprises. You are awesome

Trivial Question
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!

gixer131 said:
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!
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The reason you're getting the error after the ota update is the same reason why people get issues after installing custom roms and not wiping their device... the old cache and user data conflicts with the update.
Downgrading and then flashing a custom rom along with flashing an updated radio will remedy the problem. I dont believe you'll want to use the initial radio release, I highly recommend flashing the radio from the 2.52 korean release to your Telus DHD, along with the ril's from that release and replacing the ones in the rom you will flash via cwm recovery. ENG S-OFF is required to flash a new radio or recovery img.
Once you downgrade, you can always return to the stock 2.43.661.1 rom. There is a thread in the Desire HD/Inspire 4G Forum on Driphter.com where I've placed the RUU's of common builds (especially for Telus and AT&T). If returning the device for warranty purposes, you must Radio S-On prior to Installing the stock rom via the RUU. The RUU Itself will set ENG to SHIP, and unroot.

Excellent, Greatly appreciated.
Might try rooting as soon as tonight. Kind of excited to have a functional device again!

I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?

Cheers guys I will try that downgrade guide. Just a note though. The file fize of the version of HTC Sync for the Desire HD I'm downloading is 66.6MB. I hope that isn't an omen for this to go horrendously wrong

giusdk said:
I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?
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they're explained in coles notes way at the bottom of the 9 step thread

[Q] HTC Incredible running 2.3.4 and 2.15.10.07.07 - Please help get S-OFF

I was able to run an older version of Unrevoked to establish SU access, but Unrevoked Forever is incompatible with my radio version. So, I have SU access, but I cannot remove or convert any applications using Titanium Backup. TB runs, but it reboots the phone if I try to remove system apps. HBOOT shows S-ON since Unrevoked Forever was not able to complete due to the radio version. So, am I stuck with S-ON? Is Unrevoked Forever going to continue developing releases to cover 2.15.10.07.07?
If I understand correctly, I cannot flash an older radio version with S-ON. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks!
HTC Incredible
2.3.4
Baseband: 2.15.10.07.07

you are correct,s-on will only let you go forward with "approved by htc" files. that means no backpeddling firmware to a rootable version,no flashing only a radio or recovery. im surprised that unrevoked even worked to get you su access,i was under the impression that all exploits had been patched in 2.3.4 source code. what happens if you try and install clockwork?
if you truly have su access,it seems it may be possible to use adb to rewrite the misc image,and thus be able to flash backwards in firmware.
however,from the sounds of the behavior youre describing for tibu,i dont believe you have su access. it prolly only put the app in the drawer,and was unable to place the matching binary.
we have been telling folks for months that they should become s-offed before the GB update,as it would be unrootable.
i bought an xtc clip awhile back that is supposed to support the incredible. i dont know that it will actually work,ill know for sure when it gets here. im told it only works with sim card phones,wich the inc is not,but its clearly listed in the supported devices.
your only real hope at this point is that someone finde a new exploit that will allow temp root and re-writing of the misc image so that you can flash older rootable firmware,or that alpharev/unrevoked can add the incredible to its supported devices list,as they use some sort of hboot trickery to get a hard patched permanent s-off hboot onto the phone first. from there you load a recovery thru hboot,then flash su in recovery.
sorry this isnt the news youre hoping for.

Thank you for the help.
It is odd. I definitely have su access through terminal, and I am running opengarden and barnacle wi-fi tether. I ran an older version of Unrevoked, and it did not complete the final step of s-off. Clockworkmod installed successfully, and I created a recovery image. Can we expect some way to root after the GB update? Is this just an HTC thing? I'm sorry for all of the questions, but I was soooo close!

efizzle said:
Thank you for the help.
It is odd. I definitely have su access through terminal, and I am running opengarden and barnacle wi-fi tether. I ran an older version of Unrevoked, and it did not complete the final step of s-off. Clockworkmod installed successfully, and I created a recovery image. Can we expect some way to root after the GB update? Is this just an HTC thing? I'm sorry for all of the questions, but I was soooo close!
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If you already have clockwork mod, flash the unrevoked forever zip from here

When I flash the zip file, I get E:/ unsupported radio version. E: update failed.

Do you have adb set up and running? Are you fairly comfortable copy/pasting commands?
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still with us? waiting for an answer to the above so we can procede
also is it possible you can post or PM me a link to the version of unrevoked you used?
if you dont have a link,just email me the whole file( [email protected] ) im extremely interested in trying to duplicate your condition and figuring out a reliable way for folks to downgrade and root.

Scotty,
I'm sorry for the delayed response.
I do not have ADB setup, but I have no problem following directions to get S-off and reclaim some memory!
I have emailed you the Unrevoked file to your email address. This should run perfectly on 2.3.4 with the exception of the last step of flashing unrevoked.zip for S-off. You will see the "unsupported radio version" errors on the phone's screen. Please let me know if there is anything else that I can do to help. Thank you for your help with this.

I got your email. I will put some stuff together for you,and try it out and see if it all works the way I hope it will. If so ill upload a mini-adb with some exploits files and post a guide. Basically,were just going to rewrite the misc image so you can downgrade back to froyo and run unrevoked forever. After you reroot and get s-off back,you can restore a backup of what you have now.
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Subscribing to thread. Looks interesting, Im hopeful it works out. Good luck!
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Ok after reading this thread again. My guide for the merge on froyo or the stuff I have for gingerbread for the merge will not work on a non emmc device. 2nd who buys a xtc clip and doesn't look what they buy? The way it works is with the sim card slot. Inc doesn't have one so it isn't going to work. It also isn't listed as supported as it would be pointless to say it does.
If I am not mistake with s-on you can't flash the recovery partition. So how did you get clockworkmod? If you have clockworkmod then you can flash non htc files. Well actually I am not sure how that would work as you have s-on but clockworkmod. Since I have never been in that boat I am unsure.
So are we talking about the inc or inc 2? If inc I am trying to think back to the desire and what was possible on s-on. If I remember right you can dump the misc then flash a lower version ruu. I just can't remember if it doesn't even flash or if it does and doesn't downgrade the radio. By the way I got it in a pm/here scotty was planning to base helping you off my merge guide. By the sounds of it anyway.
Where the commands are not the same. As the partitions would be different. The misc-image is also not the same so if he had you flash the merge misc it will more than likely bork stuff. I am more than willing to help though. How ever I do not check the forums so you are better off pming me. I will say that nothing will probably work until unrevoked supports the new radio.
Edit: If the incredible works with a goldcard. Dump the misc partition and edit it for the firmware version you want to downgrade to. Then run a lower version ruu. When that is done run unrevoked. Of course I don't have a inc so I am not sure if that will work either. I also jumped a bit to conclusions so sorry for that. I also do not get your one post about the xtc clip here, yet in that other post say the clip doesn't support the inc.

thanks for your input,but rest assured we are in no way shape or form refering to anything to do with drellisdees's guide,your copy of it,or any other files,guides,etc. you have linked or posted on this site or yours.
he allready has root access and a recovery partition.
again,thanks for your input,but please stop confusing the issue with your references to merge guides.

for others watching this,a crude guide is now up on android forums:
http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/427344-2-3-4-root-downgrade-s-off.html
root 2.3.4 with unrevoked 3.22 has now been done successfully twice,and 1 has successfully roled back to 2.2.
more testers welcome

Confirmed. Worked for me. Was s on 2.3.4.
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My Incredible also is S-on with Verizon 2.3.4 OTA and never rooted. I'll give that "crude guide" a try tonight and report back how it went.
I'm just tired of all the low memory notifications and the constant force closes. Hopefully, I can have a custom mod installed tonight if things go well.

SUCCESS!!
Instructions from the website flawlessly for me.
I first rooted the phone. Then I tested it with some root only apps. They all worked. So ideally you can stop here if all you want is root but next OTA will take away root and then you'll be stuck again.
I completed all the steps and they worked. I was able to downgrade to 2.2 and then run unrevoke3 to root and also turn S-off. It did wipe the data clean. No files from my SDcard were deleted.
This is the time i've rooted my phone and the whole process took me an hour because I was being extra careful not to miss any steps. It all went smoothly.

glad it worked out for you. we finally worked out enuff bugs i put it up here as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
efizzle seems to have dropped off the face of the earth everyone who reads this should make sure to click the "thanks" button in his first post. we wouldnt have it if hadnt figured out the 3.22 secret.(we would still have zergRush,but not root with access and the ability to make nandroids and backups with tibu so easily).
once again,thanks efizzle

Worked like a champ. I did a recovery back to 2.3.4 and it worked as expected. Also brought back all my force close issues. So I used ROM Manager and installed Cyanogen7 and am loving it.
clicking the thanks button a few times for this help

Ok, I'm on Linux, Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04.3 to be exact, and I have adb installed. Where can I find the Linux version of unrevoked 3.22. I have found several places on the interwebz but I'm not sure if I trust those sources.
Help Please
Just like the op I have a Dinc that is on Gingerbread 2.3.4 and baseband 2.15.10.07.07 and desperate to have root. S-OFF would be nice, but root would be just fine for now.
More than happy to be the Guinea-pig on a Linux system.

sorry,i have no idea. i did a quick search and couldnt even find the windows version of 3.22 that i uploaded... i wanted to link it at its source,since it was emailed to me,but im not sure where he downloaded it from. you might follow the link in the first post credits to the original xda thread and ask on that thread,or send efizzle a private message and see if he can help you. in a worse case scenario,as long as you have 3.32 for linux,you could get temp root and downgrade with the "zergRush" method described in past #2. it doesnt require 3.22,but you wont be able to make a backup,or run titanium unless you can push SU,the binary,and busybox to their respective locations after acquiring a temp root.