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Hi
I've seen all the answers in this forum, but all of them seem to be a bit old. So am wondering, does Visionary still require the Firmware to be less than 1.7xxxx? Or has it been updated?
I'm running 1.75.161.2 CL301245 release-keys on a Vodafone(UK) Desire HD and am wondering whether I need to downgrade.
Hi there, If you are running FW 1.7+ you will need to downgrade here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003 first of all to v1.36 then run the visionary tool.
If you want to install custom roms you will need radio s-off and eng s-off in addition to this from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841076.
Its all very straight forward even if you are new to rooting (like I was lol)
arjunr24724 said:
Hi
I've seen all the answers in this forum, but all of them seem to be a bit old. So am wondering, does Visionary still require the Firmware to be less than 1.7xxxx? Or has it been updated?
I'm running 1.75.161.2 CL301245 release-keys on a Vodafone(UK) Desire HD and am wondering whether I need to downgrade.
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Yes, there appears little appetite (or need) to find a new exploit to gain root, when later firmwares are , relatively, easily downgradable. So yes you will need to downgrade to attain root
ghostofcain said:
Yes, there appears little appetite (or need) to find a new exploit to gain root, when later firmwares are , relatively, easily downgradable. So yes you will need to downgrade to attain root
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Thnx.
So no way to run rooted 1.72 F/W, eh?
If I downgrade, can I upgrade to 1.72 without losing root?
My concern is that all the custom ROMs have some reported issue. The most promising seems to be Revolution 3, but even that has a reported GPS problem.
You can use Raidroid stockify series ROM, you can install it like a custom ROM, but it is just rooted stock ROM. It has 1.72 version.
Please keep in mind that all people know is how to complain in ROM threads. Let's take Revolution HD for example, it has tens of thousands of users, and then there are maybe ten people a day who say that they have some serious problem. What are the chances that they have caused the problem themselves? Exactly..
I have not experienced any big issues with the ROMs I have tried, except the Gingerbread leak, which is obviously just a leak, and therefore you cannot expect it to be perfect.
I have just updated my device with the official Froyo from HTC and then I found out that I haven't heard anything related to rooting this stuff. I really miss my CM7. Just curious about how the official stuff will work and forget this important thing.
I don't want to wait til someone find out how to root it but I think I will have to...
Sad...
---> SOLVED thanks to Chisle31 and others...
........ :F|....Never flash an official update, especially when its been posted that you can't root it...Its simple logic!.....
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rotfl, are you serious?! wow, yeah you're screwed until someone figures out how to root with the new update. this is why people shouldnt be posting links to official unrooted roms. the not so experienced will mess themselves up
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It's possible to root it, but it's NOT possible to S-OFF it (EVER). Root has to be done using a new exploit method that was used to root the newest Desire Z OTA. I did it when I created NB_Mod.
EDIT: What version is the OTA? Check Settings->About phone->Software information->Software number.
nbetcher said:
EDIT: What version is the OTA? Check Settings->About phone->Software information->Software number.
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The new software number for the official update is: 2.15.531.3.
Where can I find that root method used on the desire Z?
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Yeah, you guys are right. Been around with Android for just over 6 months so I am still a noob. I don't care much about S-OFF but this is really a blow for me since I am doing fine with RC4.
Hope you guys can find out the fix for me (not with a hammer).
did a search and read in xda archives that ruu is rootable under the previous root method. I dont know how true that is, but try rooting with the latest root method if you flashed the ruu
nbetcher said:
It's possible to root it, but it's NOT possible to S-OFF it (EVER). Root has to be done using a new exploit method that was used to root the newest Desire Z OTA. I did it when I created NB_Mod.
EDIT: What version is the OTA? Check Settings->About phone->Software information->Software number.
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what if he was to gain root and then flash the official 2.1 build. would that downgrade the bootloader?
I thought Mod should put a warning sticky so that no one will do the same thing I did.
guitarist5122 said:
what if he was to gain root and then flash the official 2.1 build. would that downgrade the bootloader?
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Normally? Yes, but HTC likes breaking their previous evil-ness records and with the release of HBOOT 1.0 (which the latest OTA is the first to have) they have set the 'Allow Downgrade' flag of HBOOT to 'false.' Why do I know this? I did that on my last Slide when I was patching between OTAs (to build the base for CR_Mod), but fortunately that Slide was having radio hardware issues far before I did that, so I ended up getting a new one under warranty.
When you try to flash the ESPRIMG in hboot, it says something like:
Code:
Flashing: DATA ... Success
Flashing: USERDATA ... Success
Flashing: RCDATA ... Success
Flashing: SYSTEM ... Success
Flashing: BOOTLOADER ... [b]Skipped[/b]
Requesting: Please bend over for HTC, because we love raping you with large telephone poles ... Failed.
Ok, so the last part isn't entirely true (hehehe), but you get the idea.
Only way to fix the problem is to get a replacement or JTAG the NAND and flash a new HBOOT (chances are that if you knew how to do this without frying your phone you wouldn't need me to tell you your options).
nbetcher said:
Normally? Yes, but HTC likes breaking their previous evil-ness records and with the release of HBOOT 1.0 (which the latest OTA is the first to have) they have set the 'Allow Downgrade' flag of HBOOT to 'false.' Why do I know this? I did that on my last Slide when I was patching between OTAs (to build the base for CR_Mod), but fortunately that Slide was having radio hardware issues far before I did that, so I ended up getting a new one under warranty.
When you try to flash the ESPRIMG in hboot, it says something like:
Code:
Flashing: DATA ... Success
Flashing: USERDATA ... Success
Flashing: RCDATA ... Success
Flashing: SYSTEM ... Success
Flashing: BOOTLOADER ... [b]Skipped[/b]
Requesting: Please bend over for HTC, because we love raping you with large telephone poles ... Failed.
Ok, so the last part isn't entirely true (hehehe), but you get the idea.
Only way to fix the problem is to get a replacement or JTAG the NAND and flash a new HBOOT (chances are that if you knew how to do this without frying your phone you wouldn't need me to tell you your options).
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Thats cool of htc, "quietly evil". Wast going to mention the jtag. Lack of knowledge is what got this mess lol. I personally wouldnt even attempt a jtag unless I could fashion a solderless adapter. Soldering is part of my job but when it comes to micro components, its way to risky.
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Anyone knows any idea about who's working on root method for this new official Froyo. Just want to know while "enjoying this stuff". :-(
bearshare said:
Anyone knows any idea about who's working on root method for this new official Froyo. Just want to know while "enjoying this stuff". :-(
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This is the method that I used: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261. It may require tweaking, omitting certain things, or otherwise be completely different, but the basic idea is there.
And remember folks: HBOOT 1.0 is NOT supported by AlphaRev and will probably never be (per IEF, the chief AlphaRev developer)! (HBOOT 1.0 is included in the latest Froyo OTA and it is currently impossible to downgrade from 1.0.)
The worst thing I've ever heard...
Your able to get a Adb shell root with oneclickroot
Chisle31 said:
Your able to get a Adb shell root with oneclickroot
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You mean I can root this and go back to the previous firmware? Please clarify a bit more since I am not techie enough to do thi on my own. And is it risky to do so?
Root achieved!!!!! will post method tonight
I will be the first one to try that...Can't wait
Sounds like this works: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1025336
hey guys.
did anybody know here how to make 2.3.3 ota update root, i have tried gingerbreak that doesnt working showing just black screen.
my phn is s-on, I do it coz it wont accepting OTA update.
is there any manual process to make it root via adb shell or something like that.?
i dont want to install custom roms i already checked so much of them but the are not fully bugs free and not fully google compatible as i want..
It is not possible. True, not all the ROMs work great, but some do. Try Android Revolution HD 5.1.6.
You have to downgrade first to get root, and then S-OFF if you want to flash custom ROMs.
You can also downgrade, root, get Radio S-OFF, unroot, get OTA again and use GingerBreak. Then you can have root in the latest HTC Gingerbread ROM.
jkoljo said:
It is not possible. True, not all the ROMs work great, but some do. Try Android Revolution HD 5.1.6.
You have to downgrade first to get root, and then S-OFF if you want to flash custom ROMs.
You can also downgrade, root, get Radio S-OFF, unroot, get OTA again and use GingerBreak. Then you can have root in the latest HTC Gingerbread ROM.
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OTA didn't came when radio is S-ON. thats y i did this..
Your phone is always S-ON when it is stock, so surely OTA will work then. And even when it is S-OFF, it does not matter if your /system partition is in stock condition (no root, no bloatware removed).
HTC have stopped Gingerbread OTA because of to many bug (To many have reported problem with SMS, WiFi a.l.). It will be released new version within few weeks when those thing is fixed. Ref HTC support
Thanks jkolko for the useful s-off & eng-off guides. Should anyone else find it an issue, note that if recovery cannot mount your sdcard, you should try another sdcard (found this elsewhere in the forums).
Hi, any app for downgrading? Honestly, not à "hero" when it comes to touching my phone, but would like root (at least to get rid of some stock apps).
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To have root in 2.3 you need to use the downgrade guide to 1.32. Root and S-OFF and update to Gingerbread using 2.3 RUU. Then use Gingerbreak .apk to root. Now you have rooted S-OFFed Gingerbread 2.3
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Updated to 2.3 from fully rooted 1.32 by RUU, installed AMT and now have su and full root Gingerbread AMT relay works, thanks to developer of script...
Hello Frendz,
The day before yesterday HTC sent an upgrade to the factory default OS (i.e. 2.2 froyo) on my DHD and I happily upgraded to 2.3 Gingerbread. Now, before updating I had permanent root access on my desire through Visionary but just after the update I realised I do not have root anymore. I would appreciate any comments and other experiences in this matter.
Also, during my own research I came across Gingerbreak which is probably the best around for rooting the 2.3 version but all I wanna ask is, if I still need to downgrade to gain root access or is it possible to directly use ginger break somehow? If I am not flashing another Rom, and all I want is Superuser rights.
As, I have never flashed any other find on to my DHD and I was using the stock interface since the start obviously with visionary root.
Also, whichever way I do it, I would loose all my contacts apps or we can avoid that. Can anybody please suggest any good (possibly free) backup app.
Tooo Long to read but any help and replies will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Anyone have any idea when Visionary or another One Click will work on a stock DHD running 2.3.3? I only want to root to get Set Cpu to improve my battery life.
You can trust my word.. Never.
jkoljo said:
You can trust my word.. Never.
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Wow, that's a bold statement in tech lol
Any reason why this build will never be hacked when seemingly every other one is?
Not doubting yr word at all tho lol
Because it uses (as far as we know) pretty much flawless security measures that prevent us from doing much anything. Previously the devs found a way to go around the main security barrier after two months of trying, and now HTC blocked that security hole. As downgrading is possible, there are really not much interests to try and crack the new builds. Especially as it seems like a mission impossible.
....sigh.....
and since downgrading, gold cards etc etc is not my favorite, still waiting for a simple apk "for dummies", I guess I can forget to get to root mine.....
Those guides are really not so hard. Read them a couple of times, and if you still do not get it, ask your friend to do it. You can also join #AndroidRevolution IRC channel, somebody can hold your hand through the process. If I am logged in, make sure to send me a private message in IRC so I notice you.
thanks for the offer! will read again & probaply come back t you for help
Indian Desire HD
Apparently the Indian DHDs running 2.3.3 cannot be downgraded to root.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
You can install seraphic custom Rom if you like its just a stock Rom with stock kernel and root access. I love that Rom, closest to stock you can get on rooted DHDs IMO.
yes, it really sad that to say 2.37 OTA upgrade cannot be downgrade this time, I really want to downgrade or just root it :'(
nothing can do this time
Hi,
I just got my dhd back from repair and they updated it to 2.50.405.2 -.-
Is this downgradable yet to root ? I ****in hate standard roms
Please help..
Thanks
i think versions above 2.37 can't be downgraded yet.
i am waiting for downgrade of 2.42 as well. just wait
I to have 2.50.405.2 after repair.
I found rooted this version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155634&highlight=2.50.405.2
But dont know will it help to change ROM.
If some one will find some solution please share it.
gingerbreak 1.2 not working with 2.50
Well, u need clockworkmod to flash it which u need rom manager for. And for rom manager u need root
I think we'll have to wait.. But the 2.37+ downgrade has been in development for about 2 months now.. Taking way to long
Probably waiting to see which bootloaders are unlocked, as promised.
Due out in September.
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Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?
+Nybras+ said:
Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?
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If u are S-OFF then u can downgrade to 2.36 by using the RUU version then root ur device,
edit:- i´ve done it more than 3times after updating from 2.36 to 2.50 "OTA" (believe me u can)
U can get the 2.36 ruu here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13381205
So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
Sent from my Desire HD
dwyaneW said:
So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
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Now you can..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233
I was waiting for this too, and now it seems like we can downgrade and root our devices. What could worst case scenario be, if something went wrong?
Have you ever rooted a device before?
Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
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dwyaneW said:
Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
Sent from my Desire HD
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Dont worry, in a couple of hours we'll have an updated method and toolkit available to downgrade.
Edit: My Method and Toolkit have been updated.
http://driphter.com/index.php?topic=3867.0
Thanks a lot ,,, Guide from JSLEnterprises was so amazing and very helpful
can't wait to get my new ROM !
Edit:
DONE!
DHD is now rooted with Radio and ENG S-OFF.
Thank you so much.
Now moving on to flash another rom, and try and figure the whole fing about the radio out..
I successfully downgraded and rooted my desire hd 2.42.415 at last. Thanks a million JSLEnterprises. You are awesome
Trivial Question
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!
gixer131 said:
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!
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The reason you're getting the error after the ota update is the same reason why people get issues after installing custom roms and not wiping their device... the old cache and user data conflicts with the update.
Downgrading and then flashing a custom rom along with flashing an updated radio will remedy the problem. I dont believe you'll want to use the initial radio release, I highly recommend flashing the radio from the 2.52 korean release to your Telus DHD, along with the ril's from that release and replacing the ones in the rom you will flash via cwm recovery. ENG S-OFF is required to flash a new radio or recovery img.
Once you downgrade, you can always return to the stock 2.43.661.1 rom. There is a thread in the Desire HD/Inspire 4G Forum on Driphter.com where I've placed the RUU's of common builds (especially for Telus and AT&T). If returning the device for warranty purposes, you must Radio S-On prior to Installing the stock rom via the RUU. The RUU Itself will set ENG to SHIP, and unroot.
Excellent, Greatly appreciated.
Might try rooting as soon as tonight. Kind of excited to have a functional device again!
I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?
Cheers guys I will try that downgrade guide. Just a note though. The file fize of the version of HTC Sync for the Desire HD I'm downloading is 66.6MB. I hope that isn't an omen for this to go horrendously wrong
giusdk said:
I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?
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they're explained in coles notes way at the bottom of the 9 step thread
I am tired of watching useless YouTube videos, reading useless comments, and doing it from November until today. My Desire HD is updated, as you all DHD users know, the latest update is the Sense 3.0 update, and now it's a 2.3.5 ver. Android on it. The question is? How can I root it?? I REALLY want to root this phone but I couldn't find a solution for 2.3.5 Desire HDs, just the Froyo ones. Help please! I tried GingerBreak, SuperOneClick. Nothing happens, they run forever and do nothing.
Hey dude.
Did your DHD come with Gingerbread or did you OTA update to it?
If your DHD came with Froyo and you updated to GB, you can factory reset your DHD to take it back to Froyo, then follow the instructions here to downgrade to 1.32 then you can root etc...
Regards.
Greg.
Thank, it came with Froyo as I've bought it when came out.
You can use AAHK (advanced ace hack kit). Search for it on the site. It is updated to root all versions of Android officially released for DHD. No need to this manually as the AAHK does it all on its own in mere minutes. Just make sure you really read what needs to be done before running it. It really is a very simple process. If you get stuck running it, AAHK has an irc support chan so you can ask there or in the thread directly.
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Donno if I am missing something but i cant find this AAHK thing, and the factory reset does not downgrade my phone, just removed all my stuff, but still 2.3.5 and sense 3.0. Why is it so complicated...
Use search in xda. Aahk will find the thread.
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I found Jkoljo's method easiest. One click root s/off Downgrade , then root. Easy as 1,2,3
Hey dude.
Here is the link to AAHK http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821
Hope that helps.
Greg.
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Hi there,
I'm in the same situation as the TS, also with the stock OTA Gingerbread update. So, I understand that a downgrade is unavoidable during the root process right? I understand that AAHK is the way to do it. My question is, will it OTA update back to my current version of GB 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 after the root and downgrade? Or is OTA updating after this process dangerous or will it undo the root? I'm kinda guessing that flashing the stock 3.12.405.1 ROM manually will undo the root process?
I know there are probably many magnificent ROM's out there that I could flash. But I just don't have the time to identify the differences, try things out and maybe change to another ROM because of bugs. I did do that back in the old WinMo days. Then I would probably flash a new ROM weekly, because there was something faster or more bugfree. Because, even a ROM from the greatest chef has some bugs. I don't have time for that anymore unfortunately, so I'd like to stick with the stock ROM which is good enough for me.
In fact, the only thing I want is root, in order to control permissions from apps (Permissions Denied app) and make better (Titanium) backups. I want nothing more.
Please help me out!
deechte said:
Hi there,
I'm in the same situation as the TS, also with the stock OTA Gingerbread update. So, I understand that a downgrade is unavoidable during the root process right? I understand that AAHK is the way to do it. My question is, will it OTA update back to my current version of GB 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 after the root and downgrade? Or is OTA updating after this process dangerous or will it undo the root? I'm kinda guessing that flashing the stock 3.12.405.1 ROM manually will undo the root process?
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You could OTA update back to 2.3.5, but you would lose root! ;-) Here is a pre rooted stock ROM you can use after rooting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382235
Tool to root as mentioned before: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1037315
Thanks Oxygene114!