Hi
I've seen all the answers in this forum, but all of them seem to be a bit old. So am wondering, does Visionary still require the Firmware to be less than 1.7xxxx? Or has it been updated?
I'm running 1.75.161.2 CL301245 release-keys on a Vodafone(UK) Desire HD and am wondering whether I need to downgrade.
Hi there, If you are running FW 1.7+ you will need to downgrade here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003 first of all to v1.36 then run the visionary tool.
If you want to install custom roms you will need radio s-off and eng s-off in addition to this from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841076.
Its all very straight forward even if you are new to rooting (like I was lol)
arjunr24724 said:
Hi
I've seen all the answers in this forum, but all of them seem to be a bit old. So am wondering, does Visionary still require the Firmware to be less than 1.7xxxx? Or has it been updated?
I'm running 1.75.161.2 CL301245 release-keys on a Vodafone(UK) Desire HD and am wondering whether I need to downgrade.
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Yes, there appears little appetite (or need) to find a new exploit to gain root, when later firmwares are , relatively, easily downgradable. So yes you will need to downgrade to attain root
ghostofcain said:
Yes, there appears little appetite (or need) to find a new exploit to gain root, when later firmwares are , relatively, easily downgradable. So yes you will need to downgrade to attain root
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Thnx.
So no way to run rooted 1.72 F/W, eh?
If I downgrade, can I upgrade to 1.72 without losing root?
My concern is that all the custom ROMs have some reported issue. The most promising seems to be Revolution 3, but even that has a reported GPS problem.
You can use Raidroid stockify series ROM, you can install it like a custom ROM, but it is just rooted stock ROM. It has 1.72 version.
Please keep in mind that all people know is how to complain in ROM threads. Let's take Revolution HD for example, it has tens of thousands of users, and then there are maybe ten people a day who say that they have some serious problem. What are the chances that they have caused the problem themselves? Exactly..
I have not experienced any big issues with the ROMs I have tried, except the Gingerbread leak, which is obviously just a leak, and therefore you cannot expect it to be perfect.
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Last night I've upgraded my Desire HD android 2.3 (the official update from htc)
I've waited with rooting my device until the official update came out.
I've tried rooting with visionary, but it doesn't seem to work. :s
I haven't tried rooting on an other way yet, but is it possible I'm not able to root my device yet because it's running on gingerbread now?
Or won't there ever be a way to root it?
I hope I'll get a quick answer, I'm quite a newbie to this and I'd like to have my device rooted!
Daenekindternational said:
Last night I've upgraded my Desire HD android 2.3 (the official update from htc)
I've waited with rooting my device until the official update came out.
I've tried rooting with visionary, but it doesn't seem to work. :s
I haven't tried rooting on an other way yet, but is it possible I'm not able to root my device yet because it's running on gingerbread now?
Or won't there ever be a way to root it?
I hope I'll get a quick answer, I'm quite a newbie to this and I'd like to have my device rooted!
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before to root you must to downgrade your device,, but mate... browse "downgrade dhd" in the XDA browser avobe... i´m sure that your going to find it quickly...
Daenekindternational said:
Last night I've upgraded my Desire HD android 2.3 (the official update from htc)
I've waited with rooting my device until the official update came out.
I've tried rooting with visionary, but it doesn't seem to work. :s
I haven't tried rooting on an other way yet, but is it possible I'm not able to root my device yet because it's running on gingerbread now?
Or won't there ever be a way to root it?
I hope I'll get a quick answer, I'm quite a newbie to this and I'd like to have my device rooted!
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take this link its the same question answered few posts ago...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064229
use the browse before (my recomendation) its faster that post an ask
cheers and sorry for my bad english buddy!!
Do I need to downgrade to android 2.2 again (or something, sorry I'm totally new at this) before I can root my device?
So there's no way to root it when it's still has gingerbread?
Daenekindternational said:
Do I need to downgrade to android 2.2 again (or something, sorry I'm totally new at this) before I can root my device?
So there's no way to root it when it's still has gingerbread?
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nope.. the only one rom rootable its 1.32xxx WEE OFICIAL RUU
BUT DON´T WORRY DOWNGRADE ITS AN EASY STEP..
if you need help post again in Q&A mate...
First, I need to downgrade (but I don't understand the gold card)
Then I need to root
Then I need it to be s-off? And then I can install custom recoveries (= custom roms??), but what if I don't want custom roms?
If I just want to tweak a bit with the gingerbread+sense version I have at the moment (changing icons in notification bar, changing bootscreen etc), do I still need to continue with the s-off step?
Or can I only tweak with the things I want if I have a custom rom?
Daenekindternational said:
First, I need to downgrade (but I don't understand the gold card)
Then I need to root
Then I need it to be s-off? And then I can install custom recoveries (= custom roms??), but what if I don't want custom roms?
If I just want to tweak a bit with the gingerbread+sense version I have at the moment (changing icons in notification bar, changing bootscreen etc), do I still need to continue with the s-off step?
Or can I only tweak with the things I want if I have a custom rom?
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okay let´s do it...
if you want to flash later another different baseband (radio) you need s-off & you must to continue doing it... (with Radio s-off tool... etc..)
but its not neccesary for to flash a new rom...
custom recovery isn´t a rom..
custom rec. its a menú that you need for to flash roms... etc into your machine..
neccesary for recover your system if anything goes badly (IMPORTANT)...
AND FINALLY... you can flash custom roms that are not ported from another device or are not themed etcc... simply are OFFICIAL ROMS (WEE OFFICIAL RUU named) only with root acces, (deodexed, zipaligned...etc for better performance... sometimes upper that 50 % speedup!! )
if you flashes a official rom without root incorporated your going to lose your work (root... recovery,, etc.. but not s-off)
i recommend to you that continue doing s-off and eng-off for obtain "CID 111111" (BROWSE what is this an judge by yourself )
hey guys.
did anybody know here how to make 2.3.3 ota update root, i have tried gingerbreak that doesnt working showing just black screen.
my phn is s-on, I do it coz it wont accepting OTA update.
is there any manual process to make it root via adb shell or something like that.?
i dont want to install custom roms i already checked so much of them but the are not fully bugs free and not fully google compatible as i want..
It is not possible. True, not all the ROMs work great, but some do. Try Android Revolution HD 5.1.6.
You have to downgrade first to get root, and then S-OFF if you want to flash custom ROMs.
You can also downgrade, root, get Radio S-OFF, unroot, get OTA again and use GingerBreak. Then you can have root in the latest HTC Gingerbread ROM.
jkoljo said:
It is not possible. True, not all the ROMs work great, but some do. Try Android Revolution HD 5.1.6.
You have to downgrade first to get root, and then S-OFF if you want to flash custom ROMs.
You can also downgrade, root, get Radio S-OFF, unroot, get OTA again and use GingerBreak. Then you can have root in the latest HTC Gingerbread ROM.
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OTA didn't came when radio is S-ON. thats y i did this..
Your phone is always S-ON when it is stock, so surely OTA will work then. And even when it is S-OFF, it does not matter if your /system partition is in stock condition (no root, no bloatware removed).
HTC have stopped Gingerbread OTA because of to many bug (To many have reported problem with SMS, WiFi a.l.). It will be released new version within few weeks when those thing is fixed. Ref HTC support
Thanks jkolko for the useful s-off & eng-off guides. Should anyone else find it an issue, note that if recovery cannot mount your sdcard, you should try another sdcard (found this elsewhere in the forums).
Hi, any app for downgrading? Honestly, not à "hero" when it comes to touching my phone, but would like root (at least to get rid of some stock apps).
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
To have root in 2.3 you need to use the downgrade guide to 1.32. Root and S-OFF and update to Gingerbread using 2.3 RUU. Then use Gingerbreak .apk to root. Now you have rooted S-OFFed Gingerbread 2.3
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Updated to 2.3 from fully rooted 1.32 by RUU, installed AMT and now have su and full root Gingerbread AMT relay works, thanks to developer of script...
Hello Frendz,
The day before yesterday HTC sent an upgrade to the factory default OS (i.e. 2.2 froyo) on my DHD and I happily upgraded to 2.3 Gingerbread. Now, before updating I had permanent root access on my desire through Visionary but just after the update I realised I do not have root anymore. I would appreciate any comments and other experiences in this matter.
Also, during my own research I came across Gingerbreak which is probably the best around for rooting the 2.3 version but all I wanna ask is, if I still need to downgrade to gain root access or is it possible to directly use ginger break somehow? If I am not flashing another Rom, and all I want is Superuser rights.
As, I have never flashed any other find on to my DHD and I was using the stock interface since the start obviously with visionary root.
Also, whichever way I do it, I would loose all my contacts apps or we can avoid that. Can anybody please suggest any good (possibly free) backup app.
Tooo Long to read but any help and replies will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Anyone have any idea when Visionary or another One Click will work on a stock DHD running 2.3.3? I only want to root to get Set Cpu to improve my battery life.
You can trust my word.. Never.
jkoljo said:
You can trust my word.. Never.
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Wow, that's a bold statement in tech lol
Any reason why this build will never be hacked when seemingly every other one is?
Not doubting yr word at all tho lol
Because it uses (as far as we know) pretty much flawless security measures that prevent us from doing much anything. Previously the devs found a way to go around the main security barrier after two months of trying, and now HTC blocked that security hole. As downgrading is possible, there are really not much interests to try and crack the new builds. Especially as it seems like a mission impossible.
....sigh.....
and since downgrading, gold cards etc etc is not my favorite, still waiting for a simple apk "for dummies", I guess I can forget to get to root mine.....
Those guides are really not so hard. Read them a couple of times, and if you still do not get it, ask your friend to do it. You can also join #AndroidRevolution IRC channel, somebody can hold your hand through the process. If I am logged in, make sure to send me a private message in IRC so I notice you.
thanks for the offer! will read again & probaply come back t you for help
Indian Desire HD
Apparently the Indian DHDs running 2.3.3 cannot be downgraded to root.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
You can install seraphic custom Rom if you like its just a stock Rom with stock kernel and root access. I love that Rom, closest to stock you can get on rooted DHDs IMO.
yes, it really sad that to say 2.37 OTA upgrade cannot be downgrade this time, I really want to downgrade or just root it :'(
nothing can do this time
A mate of mine has a Desire Z running 1.42.405.2 software and would like my help in rooting it. But is that even possible at present without downgrading to froyo?
At the moment? No it's not, but I am sure there will be in the future. The downgrade is painless though. If you need help with rooting or the downgrade you can go to webchat.freenode.net and the channel is #g2root
Don't worry about being stuck on Froyo, if that is the reason for hesitation on rooting. After root, you can always flash a pre-rooted version of the Sense Gingerbread ROM, posted in Development. There is a version that is purely stock, or you can flash a more custom ROM like Virtuous, which is the GB update plus some nice modifications and optimizations.
I wouldn't hold my breath on waiting for a non-downgrade root method. The hole that allowed Visionary, rage and gfree to obtain root was closed by HTC last December. And nobody has found a new method since. But I don't know if anyone is actively working on a new exploit at present. So in theory, somebody can find a new method anytime. But its been 8 months now.
I am tired of watching useless YouTube videos, reading useless comments, and doing it from November until today. My Desire HD is updated, as you all DHD users know, the latest update is the Sense 3.0 update, and now it's a 2.3.5 ver. Android on it. The question is? How can I root it?? I REALLY want to root this phone but I couldn't find a solution for 2.3.5 Desire HDs, just the Froyo ones. Help please! I tried GingerBreak, SuperOneClick. Nothing happens, they run forever and do nothing.
Hey dude.
Did your DHD come with Gingerbread or did you OTA update to it?
If your DHD came with Froyo and you updated to GB, you can factory reset your DHD to take it back to Froyo, then follow the instructions here to downgrade to 1.32 then you can root etc...
Regards.
Greg.
Thank, it came with Froyo as I've bought it when came out.
You can use AAHK (advanced ace hack kit). Search for it on the site. It is updated to root all versions of Android officially released for DHD. No need to this manually as the AAHK does it all on its own in mere minutes. Just make sure you really read what needs to be done before running it. It really is a very simple process. If you get stuck running it, AAHK has an irc support chan so you can ask there or in the thread directly.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD with Beats Audio using XDA App
Donno if I am missing something but i cant find this AAHK thing, and the factory reset does not downgrade my phone, just removed all my stuff, but still 2.3.5 and sense 3.0. Why is it so complicated...
Use search in xda. Aahk will find the thread.
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I found Jkoljo's method easiest. One click root s/off Downgrade , then root. Easy as 1,2,3
Hey dude.
Here is the link to AAHK http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821
Hope that helps.
Greg.
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Hi there,
I'm in the same situation as the TS, also with the stock OTA Gingerbread update. So, I understand that a downgrade is unavoidable during the root process right? I understand that AAHK is the way to do it. My question is, will it OTA update back to my current version of GB 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 after the root and downgrade? Or is OTA updating after this process dangerous or will it undo the root? I'm kinda guessing that flashing the stock 3.12.405.1 ROM manually will undo the root process?
I know there are probably many magnificent ROM's out there that I could flash. But I just don't have the time to identify the differences, try things out and maybe change to another ROM because of bugs. I did do that back in the old WinMo days. Then I would probably flash a new ROM weekly, because there was something faster or more bugfree. Because, even a ROM from the greatest chef has some bugs. I don't have time for that anymore unfortunately, so I'd like to stick with the stock ROM which is good enough for me.
In fact, the only thing I want is root, in order to control permissions from apps (Permissions Denied app) and make better (Titanium) backups. I want nothing more.
Please help me out!
deechte said:
Hi there,
I'm in the same situation as the TS, also with the stock OTA Gingerbread update. So, I understand that a downgrade is unavoidable during the root process right? I understand that AAHK is the way to do it. My question is, will it OTA update back to my current version of GB 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 after the root and downgrade? Or is OTA updating after this process dangerous or will it undo the root? I'm kinda guessing that flashing the stock 3.12.405.1 ROM manually will undo the root process?
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You could OTA update back to 2.3.5, but you would lose root! ;-) Here is a pre rooted stock ROM you can use after rooting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382235
Tool to root as mentioned before: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1037315
Thanks Oxygene114!
I'm root curious as I want to remove my carriers branded software, and after the lastest update my phone has developed a lag, so I am considering rooting and a rom but I am confused.
The how to root guide talks about downgrading? Is this a good idea?
Do I need permanent root?
Thanks in advance..
HTC Desire HD A9191 in the UK on Orange
android 2.3.5
sense 3.0
I cant remember the exact process as i rooted my phone more than a year ago.
Basically you need to gain temp root, then downgrade in order to achieve permanent root.
toys19 said:
I'm root curious as I want to remove my carriers branded software, and after the lastest update my phone has developed a lag, so I am considering rooting and a rom but I am confused.
The how to root guide talks about downgrading? Is this a good idea?
Do I need permanent root?
Thanks in advance..
HTC Desire HD A9191 in the UK on Orange
android 2.3.5
sense 3.0
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Yes, you need to dowgrade first. You can folllow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821
Is a one step process to root, S-OFF, supercid, custom recovery etc. Then you will be able to flash any custom rom or a stock rooted rom.
Follow the instructions very carefully.
Ah Ok so does that mean you cannot root unless you downgrade? So when you install a custom rom does it upgrade you again?
I'm kind of lost as to why running older/downgraded software is good idea once you have gained root?
toys19 said:
Ah Ok so does that mean you cannot root unless you downgrade? So when you install a custom rom does it upgrade you again?
I'm kind of lost as to why running older/downgraded software is good idea once you have gained root?
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The problem is that on DHD is not possible to root (actually) if you have android 2.3.5.
So you need to downgrade first. Once you have rooted the phone you can flash a Stock rooted android 2.3.5 sense 3.0 (like the one you have now) or a custom rom.
This one is a stock rooted android 2.3.5 sense 3.0 for example (f you like the stock feeling) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382235.
Hope it helps
Clarifies it perfectly. I understand now, thanks very much for your reply.
Glad it helped
The next question then is - I guess what I really want is to keep my phone as it is now. So If I do the advanced ace hack , install that stock rom above, my phone will be exactly the same (like with all my settings etc? except I can uninstall all the crappy orange bloatware etc?
toys19 said:
The next question then is - I guess what I really want is to keep my phone as it is now. So If I do the advanced ace hack , install that stock rom above, my phone will be exactly the same (like with all my settings etc? except I can uninstall all the crappy orange bloatware etc?
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When you will run the ace hack kit you will be prompted to download a RUU in order to downgrade. Be carefull and chose the WWE (world wide english) and not a branded one. Doing so you will get rid of all crappy bloatware.
If you will download the rom I linked, your phone will be exactly as it is now (not the settings of course, you will lose your settings).
It will be as out of the box and need to set again.
Just be carefull and follow exactly (read twice and even more) the instructions.
OK I am doing mucho reading as we speak!
Good. I did it too.
Read, learn and try. It's the only way.
I bought my DHD in February 2011 and googled aroud this forums to learn, finally on december I decided to join. Good luck!!