HTC DZ Bell Update - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I updated my phone to 1.82.666 and I can't root anymore... anyway how to? I need permroot for Titanium backup... Is there anyway to permroot at this or do I need to downgrade (last resort)?? Is there an updated VISIONary? I still have r14
Thanks
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downgrade
I think you need to downgrade

Any official ROM version 1.72 or later is not yeet rootable. You will need to downgrade.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#December_2010_DZ_OTA_1.72_Update

Thanks... so I do need to downgrade... the HTC stocks app is sucking up my data plan dry and I don't even use it... so I really need TB to freeze it... it uses up about 20 megs a day... I already disabled it sync and all, but still no effect... still uses up all my data...
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Any official ROM version 1.72 or later is not yeet rootable.
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So we are eagerly waiting for xda people to work on this issue. At least for 1.72
Keeping thumbs.

Maxymo123 said:
So we are eagerly waiting for xda people to work on this issue. At least for 1.72
Keeping thumbs.
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A lot of the new froyo roms (i.e virtuous)are based off 1.85, i don't see why you have to wait ..just sayin

redpoint73 said:
Any official ROM version 1.72 or later is not yeet rootable. You will need to downgrade.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#December_2010_DZ_OTA_1.72_Update
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Tried to downgrade, but keep getting a Model ID error, so I can't downgrade... was doing the downgrade instructions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261 but I'm stuck at step 11, which is installing that lower version rom.... tried to create goldcard, still no... was reading further and maybe a little info should help
Bought phone, rooted through visionary... and that's it... no s-off, no supercid, etc... so I guess I'm screwed (or stuck with this) until they get a workaround about this... am I right? or can I still downgrade?

Whoa, I think I was able to downgrade using the official 1.34 update posted here on XDA... I'm not sure if I can root and s-off, but I'd do my best to see if I can....
Android version:
2.2
Baseband:
12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.18_M3
Kernel:
2.6.32.21 Oct 18 2010
Build:
1.34.66.1

eff yeah, I think I got root and s-off (I don't care about sim unlock, I "unlocked" my phone way back already, where I had to pay and didn't know I can unlock this for free)
gotta check it out now, will report back
** what I did, well, I did the tutorials, and failed.... did a little bit of research and said that I can "probably" downgrade by "updating" to an older version,... so I went ahead and tried,.. I downloaded the 1.34 posted here at XDA, and installed it on the PC.. it went through it's thing... phone restarded like new, went through the setup, checked "about phone" and I did downgrade to 1.34... so now, not wasting anytime did the rooting and s-off process.... WIN!

redpoint73 said:
Any official ROM version 1.72 or later is not yeet rootable. You will need to downgrade.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#December_2010_DZ_OTA_1.72_Update
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Oh BTW, this was from 1.84.666.1 down to 1.34.666.1
well, accidentally updated to 1.84, when I had 1.72 and was able to root using VISIONary+....
now, I'm at 1.34 and can't wait to check out other ROMS, heh
sorry, I now feel I kinda spammed this thread on my own

So, it sounds like you just edited your DZs version number using misc_version and installed this?

theSpam said:
So, it sounds like you just edited your DZs version number using misc_version and installed this?
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Yes, I suspect that allowed me to downgrade... although installing through SD didn't work, the pc update worked to downgrade
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[Q] Root after 2.2.1 update

I have foolishly accepted the 2.2.1 update (I wasnt previously rooted or had S-Off) so am safe in that my phone isnt knacked but does this now mean I cant root? (at least not for now....or indeed the forseeable future)?
if you want root you should read up here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
and also here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855764
The 1.72 OTA update on a Desire Z ? If so then yes, unfortunately you are locked out of root for now. If you already had full radio S-OFF via gfree, then you can downgrade. Otherwise you are stuck, for now at least.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886023
steviewevie said:
The 1.72 OTA update on a Desire Z ? If so then yes, unfortunately you are locked out of root for now. If you already had full radio S-OFF via gfree, then you can downgrade. Otherwise you are stuck, for now at least.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886023
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Yes that one.....i just noticed the update to 2.2.1, didnt check the software number....
Cheers though ill have a read.....pretty bugged that I accepted it now......might be going in the microwave and back 'under warrenty' lol
rtorbs said:
Cheers though ill have a read.....pretty bugged that I accepted it now......might be going in the microwave and back 'under warrenty' lol
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Bear in mind that any replacement phone might well already have the update on it anyway.
steviewevie said:
Bear in mind that any replacement phone might well already have the update on it anyway.
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Fair point...and if that's the case I'm sticking with this one as the hinge is solid compared to some I've handled
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Downgrading 2.50.405.2 to 1.32 ?

Hi,
I just got my dhd back from repair and they updated it to 2.50.405.2 -.-
Is this downgradable yet to root ? I ****in hate standard roms
Please help..
Thanks
i think versions above 2.37 can't be downgraded yet.
i am waiting for downgrade of 2.42 as well. just wait
I to have 2.50.405.2 after repair.
I found rooted this version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155634&highlight=2.50.405.2
But dont know will it help to change ROM.
If some one will find some solution please share it.
gingerbreak 1.2 not working with 2.50
Well, u need clockworkmod to flash it which u need rom manager for. And for rom manager u need root
I think we'll have to wait.. But the 2.37+ downgrade has been in development for about 2 months now.. Taking way to long
Probably waiting to see which bootloaders are unlocked, as promised.
Due out in September.
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Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?
+Nybras+ said:
Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?
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If u are S-OFF then u can downgrade to 2.36 by using the RUU version then root ur device,
edit:- i´ve done it more than 3times after updating from 2.36 to 2.50 "OTA" (believe me u can)
U can get the 2.36 ruu here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13381205
So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
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dwyaneW said:
So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
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Now you can..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233
I was waiting for this too, and now it seems like we can downgrade and root our devices. What could worst case scenario be, if something went wrong?
Have you ever rooted a device before?
Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
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dwyaneW said:
Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
Sent from my Desire HD
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Dont worry, in a couple of hours we'll have an updated method and toolkit available to downgrade.
Edit: My Method and Toolkit have been updated.
http://driphter.com/index.php?topic=3867.0
Thanks a lot ,,, Guide from JSLEnterprises was so amazing and very helpful
can't wait to get my new ROM !
Edit:
DONE!
DHD is now rooted with Radio and ENG S-OFF.
Thank you so much.
Now moving on to flash another rom, and try and figure the whole fing about the radio out..
I successfully downgraded and rooted my desire hd 2.42.415 at last. Thanks a million JSLEnterprises. You are awesome
Trivial Question
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!
gixer131 said:
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!
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The reason you're getting the error after the ota update is the same reason why people get issues after installing custom roms and not wiping their device... the old cache and user data conflicts with the update.
Downgrading and then flashing a custom rom along with flashing an updated radio will remedy the problem. I dont believe you'll want to use the initial radio release, I highly recommend flashing the radio from the 2.52 korean release to your Telus DHD, along with the ril's from that release and replacing the ones in the rom you will flash via cwm recovery. ENG S-OFF is required to flash a new radio or recovery img.
Once you downgrade, you can always return to the stock 2.43.661.1 rom. There is a thread in the Desire HD/Inspire 4G Forum on Driphter.com where I've placed the RUU's of common builds (especially for Telus and AT&T). If returning the device for warranty purposes, you must Radio S-On prior to Installing the stock rom via the RUU. The RUU Itself will set ENG to SHIP, and unroot.
Excellent, Greatly appreciated.
Might try rooting as soon as tonight. Kind of excited to have a functional device again!
I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?
Cheers guys I will try that downgrade guide. Just a note though. The file fize of the version of HTC Sync for the Desire HD I'm downloading is 66.6MB. I hope that isn't an omen for this to go horrendously wrong
giusdk said:
I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?
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they're explained in coles notes way at the bottom of the 9 step thread

[Q] downgrading to froyo

How could one downgrade to froyo from gingerbread. Do I just get the stock ruu and downgrade it?
jojo4747 said:
How could one downgrade to froyo from gingerbread. Do I just get the stock ruu and downgrade it?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1164432
Question was just asked earlier today, Search before making a new thread. Thanks.
No - will not work
Hi,
Nope it will start up the process then stop saying no downgrade possible.
michaelbsheldon said:
Hi,
Nope it will start up the process then stop saying no downgrade possible.
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Is ur phone s-off? You should be able to flash roms from froyo to gb as long as your s-off and have CWM installed.
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No I don't have Linux and can you get s off on gb?
jojo4747 said:
No I don't have Linux and can you get s off on gb?
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If you did the OTA Gingerbread from Verizon then you are pretty much stuck with it. You can still get s-off if you get the XTC clip. And you could have got s-off yesterday since AlphaRev released the windows download yesterday. You can be the guinea pig and try it now to see if AlphaRev does work with the Gingerbread update. Let us know if you do and it does.
And what is so wrong with the update that you actually want to go back to froyo? If it is the bloat and you were going to root, then why did you blow off the warning not to update?
Anyway way you choose, good luck!
I tried alpharev x and it didn't work but I saw that it didn't work for others on the post for windows users. Plus my hboot is still the .97 or what ever the prerequisite is. So shouldn't it still work? And I just want sense 3.0 sooo bad lol. I did it to get rid of the massive bugs like the back button not working and the keyboard u

How to Downgrade to Froyo after installing HTC Stock Gingerbread

friend need help i installed HTC Gingerbread which the up on developer website on 1st of aug. now i want to downgrade it to stock froyo.
how to do?
help
Oh i dunno maybe if you put this question in the right place then yes it would be answers for you..
There is a Q&A section for you to put this question in don't waste developers time and mods time by putting your question here. you will get flamed just a fair warning I'm not mad just saying...
Dont think its possible Teppic74's downgrader wouldn't work on the ARA build, so doubt it will work like this.
lovalim said:
friend need help i installed HTC Gingerbread which the up on developer website on 1st of aug. now i want to downgrade it to stock froyo.
how to do?
help
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You should had to ask this in your mind before flashing an RUU that contain an hboot update!
Go to www.shipped-roms.com and find the froyo RUU and flash it, it should downgrade your hboot and you should be able to root again. If you have a branded desire you’re going to need goldcard.
I you dont know how to Flash a RUU use the search function
3f1f37 said:
Go to www.shipped-roms.com and find the froyo RUU and flash it, it should downgrade your hboot and you should be able to root again. If you have a branded desire you’re going to need goldcard.
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It's reported to not work! The new hboot does not allow to flash an older hboot.
An S-off could have protected him. Have you tried the new AlpharevX to try and S-Off ur device? If it works, you can reverse the process later.
droidzone said:
An S-off could have protected him. Have you tried the new AlpharevX to try and S-Off ur device? If it works, you can reverse the process later.
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The new s-off tool wont work, it says that your device is currently unsupported.
nickislauw said:
The new s-off tool wont work, it says that your device is currently unsupported.
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Try their irc channel as well. It could be a 'soft' incompatibility, wherein they've disabled it because they havent yet tested it.
Is there no other rootable rom of the same hboot?
1. wrong section
2. every time the same, people will first flash and ask questions later
JeckyllHavok said:
1. wrong section
2. every time the same, people will first flash and ask questions later
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1. Agreed
2. Agreed.
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My downgrade tool almost certainly won't work on this. However, if someone manages to root this version, there's a good chance it will.
teppic74 said:
My downgrade tool almost certainly won't work on this. However, if someone manages to root this version, there's a good chance it will.
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Paul Obrien did. Someone might ask him how to
he also flashed the hboot that came with the update.
Flashmaniac said:
Paul Obrien did. Someone might ask him how to
he also flashed the hboot that came with the update.
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If I not wrong, was a temp root anyway. But if Paul flashed the new hboot, this is a good news for those that flashed it too. He will of course find the way to change rom
timmaaa said:
1. Agreed
2. Agreed.
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I agree as well, but in the meantime there possibly are a few thousand Desire users who want this problem solved. Another possibility is that people who waited for the GB-update want to root after this disappointing update. They also might be potential donators (including me), so please get root for the official GB-update up and running!
Thanks in advance!
Hello mates, i'm having the same issue, just want to downgrade back to froyo and i can't do it because of the hboot . i've tried with unrewoked, went to shipped roms but nothing succeded.. can you please, tell me if someone managed to fix it ? thanks.
I know its frustrating but you will probably have to wait, keep an eye on the Desire Android Development section, I'm sure when theres a fix the devs will post it up there for you
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Just read on a dutch forum that the unrevoked / alpharev guys will release a new version of their root/s-off tool, probably next week, with support for the desire new hboot! http://revolutionary.io/
The dutch forum post: http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/36540480#36540480
lovalim said:
Just read on a dutch forum that the unrevoked / alpharev guys will release a new version of their root/s-off tool, probably next week, with support for the desire new hboot! http://revolutionary.io/
The dutch forum post: http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/36540480#36540480
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I wouldn't read too much into that necessarily. A post on this forum thought I was working on rooting desire 2.3
Unfortunately your link is in dutch, so I cannot see any "official Sources" in it.
Well I stand corrected.
http://revolutionary.io/
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install OTA update?

Hi all,
I am new here after retiring my broke dinc 1 and getting a replacement dinc2 from Asurion. I am still completely stock except for a hack on the phone to allow me to tether (no download was required).
My phone currently has software # 5.10605.9 and I was not able to run the s-off tool. I read there is an ICS OTA due soon so I thought I would just wait for that before going s-off or rooting. My only immediate need for root is so I can have Nandroid and Titanium backups. The sooner the better for that but I can wait for stock ICS before considering any custom ROMs.
I have an OTA update now that I have rejected. It says :
ADR6350_6.01.605.05-5.10.605.9
I assume this would upgrade me to 6.01.605.05 So should I let it install?
Thanks!
If you want to root/s-off dont apply that update!! You loose the ability to until you downgrade the software again which is a pain in the ass. As for not being able to currently get s-off you're gonna have to wait for some other people here to help, they can help you troubleshoot the problem.
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Thanks Triscuit,
That is what I suspected from looking around the forum. What confuses me is that I already could not run the Revolution s-off. If i don't have that latest firmware why can't I s-off now? Is it more a root issue?
You have to downgrade to 2.3.3 and hboot 97 first.
bberryhill0 said:
You have to downgrade to 2.3.3 and hboot 97 first.
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If I wait for the ICS update with this issue go away or is the downgrade going to remain a necessity to root and s-off?
Each OTA is making s-off much more difficult. Honestly, I would downgrade your. 98hboot & s-off now. We have a very stable ICS sense 4 ROM.
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sjpritch25 said:
Each OTA is making s-off much more difficult. Honestly, I would downgrade your. 98hboot & s-off now. We have a very stable ICS sense 4 ROM.
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Thanks, I will take your advice. Just to be certain, the warnings about not downgrading due to bootloops is for those who have the 6.01.605.05 installed so I should be fine?
That's not an issue anymore. It was in the beginning. But it was a problem that occurred after downgrading and s-off. So how knows if the ICS ota will be worse or even down-gradable.
Great, question resolved. I will happily be going s-off and rooting soon. As always the XDA community comes through for me. Thanks guys!
Actually being on the newest firmware is still an issue. Once you have been on the most recent OTA you have to run the most recent radio to run any Sense rom. The 0312 radio really sucks and does not have near as good of reception as previous ones. Do as these guys have said S Off and root now. This way you dont have to worry about it and by all means dont take the ICS OTA when or if it ever comes. Im sure once its out it wont take long before we have a flashable version.
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Actually being on the newest firmware is still an issue. Once you have been on the most recent OTA you have to run the most recent radio to run any Sense rom. The 0312 radio really sucks and does not have near as good of reception as previous ones. Do as these guys have said S Off and root now. This way you dont have to worry about it and by all means dont take the ICS OTA when or if it ever comes. Im sure once its out it wont take long before we have a flashable version.
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Thanks Zack, that is what I will do. Haven't checked since I got the phone a month or 2 ago but what is the latest/recommended tool. I was planning on using Revolution for s-off based on what I saw before. There are usually multiple tools available for rooting.
BTW- love your neck of the woods. I lived in Blowing Rock for a short time.
You have to downgrade first. I like this thread:
http://androidforums.com/showthread.php?t=444428
bberryhill0 said:
You have to downgrade first. I like this thread:
http://androidforums.com/showthread.php?t=444428
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That is a well written set of instructions. Now I am ready to rock n roll. Thanks!

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