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Downgrading 2.50.405.2 to 1.32 ?

Hi,
I just got my dhd back from repair and they updated it to 2.50.405.2 -.-
Is this downgradable yet to root ? I ****in hate standard roms
Please help..
Thanks

i think versions above 2.37 can't be downgraded yet.
i am waiting for downgrade of 2.42 as well. just wait

I to have 2.50.405.2 after repair.
I found rooted this version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155634&highlight=2.50.405.2
But dont know will it help to change ROM.
If some one will find some solution please share it.
gingerbreak 1.2 not working with 2.50

Well, u need clockworkmod to flash it which u need rom manager for. And for rom manager u need root
I think we'll have to wait.. But the 2.37+ downgrade has been in development for about 2 months now.. Taking way to long

Probably waiting to see which bootloaders are unlocked, as promised.
Due out in September.
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Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?

+Nybras+ said:
Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?
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If u are S-OFF then u can downgrade to 2.36 by using the RUU version then root ur device,
edit:- i´ve done it more than 3times after updating from 2.36 to 2.50 "OTA" (believe me u can)
U can get the 2.36 ruu here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13381205

So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
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dwyaneW said:
So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
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Now you can..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233
I was waiting for this too, and now it seems like we can downgrade and root our devices. What could worst case scenario be, if something went wrong?
Have you ever rooted a device before?

Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
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dwyaneW said:
Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
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Dont worry, in a couple of hours we'll have an updated method and toolkit available to downgrade.
Edit: My Method and Toolkit have been updated.
http://driphter.com/index.php?topic=3867.0

Thanks a lot ,,, Guide from JSLEnterprises was so amazing and very helpful
can't wait to get my new ROM !

Edit:
DONE!
DHD is now rooted with Radio and ENG S-OFF.
Thank you so much.
Now moving on to flash another rom, and try and figure the whole fing about the radio out..

I successfully downgraded and rooted my desire hd 2.42.415 at last. Thanks a million JSLEnterprises. You are awesome

Trivial Question
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!

gixer131 said:
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!
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The reason you're getting the error after the ota update is the same reason why people get issues after installing custom roms and not wiping their device... the old cache and user data conflicts with the update.
Downgrading and then flashing a custom rom along with flashing an updated radio will remedy the problem. I dont believe you'll want to use the initial radio release, I highly recommend flashing the radio from the 2.52 korean release to your Telus DHD, along with the ril's from that release and replacing the ones in the rom you will flash via cwm recovery. ENG S-OFF is required to flash a new radio or recovery img.
Once you downgrade, you can always return to the stock 2.43.661.1 rom. There is a thread in the Desire HD/Inspire 4G Forum on Driphter.com where I've placed the RUU's of common builds (especially for Telus and AT&T). If returning the device for warranty purposes, you must Radio S-On prior to Installing the stock rom via the RUU. The RUU Itself will set ENG to SHIP, and unroot.

Excellent, Greatly appreciated.
Might try rooting as soon as tonight. Kind of excited to have a functional device again!

I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?

Cheers guys I will try that downgrade guide. Just a note though. The file fize of the version of HTC Sync for the Desire HD I'm downloading is 66.6MB. I hope that isn't an omen for this to go horrendously wrong

giusdk said:
I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?
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they're explained in coles notes way at the bottom of the 9 step thread

[Q] downgrading to froyo

How could one downgrade to froyo from gingerbread. Do I just get the stock ruu and downgrade it?

jojo4747 said:
How could one downgrade to froyo from gingerbread. Do I just get the stock ruu and downgrade it?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1164432
Question was just asked earlier today, Search before making a new thread. Thanks.

No - will not work
Hi,
Nope it will start up the process then stop saying no downgrade possible.

michaelbsheldon said:
Hi,
Nope it will start up the process then stop saying no downgrade possible.
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Is ur phone s-off? You should be able to flash roms from froyo to gb as long as your s-off and have CWM installed.
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No I don't have Linux and can you get s off on gb?

jojo4747 said:
No I don't have Linux and can you get s off on gb?
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If you did the OTA Gingerbread from Verizon then you are pretty much stuck with it. You can still get s-off if you get the XTC clip. And you could have got s-off yesterday since AlphaRev released the windows download yesterday. You can be the guinea pig and try it now to see if AlphaRev does work with the Gingerbread update. Let us know if you do and it does.
And what is so wrong with the update that you actually want to go back to froyo? If it is the bloat and you were going to root, then why did you blow off the warning not to update?
Anyway way you choose, good luck!

I tried alpharev x and it didn't work but I saw that it didn't work for others on the post for windows users. Plus my hboot is still the .97 or what ever the prerequisite is. So shouldn't it still work? And I just want sense 3.0 sooo bad lol. I did it to get rid of the massive bugs like the back button not working and the keyboard u

Downgrading to FROYO

Yes, it can be done. There is an RUU floating around, and I just successfully downgraded. That said, while recovery was removed, S-OFF was NOT removed.
What I do not know is how this would affect those who did OTA or the .3 release. I did flash down though from Gingersense.
More to come, as I now have to read about how to get Clockwork Recovery back into place.. That's critical now.
EDIT: Blah.. Just FYI, it doesn't look like the RUU I was using was the stock release. But it's Froyo regardless.
EDIT 2: Big Blah.. If you're S-ON, it won't work. Works fine if you're S-OFF though.

What was the name of the file?
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RUU_Vivo_W_VERIZON_WWE_1.34.605.3_Radio_0.99.01.0225_2_NV_VZW1.92_release_181303_signed.exe
Looks like 1.34.605.4 is the stock release, but I'm not positive.

And I'm back to where I was before I ran the RUU. Everything appears to work. No issues getting CWM recovery back on.
This may be an option for those who went OTA and want to get root...they just might not have it with OTA.

sk0t said:
And I'm back to where I was before I ran the RUU. Everything appears to work. No issues getting CWM recovery back on.
This may be an option for those who went OTA and want to get root...they just might not have it with OTA.
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Ill give it a shot seeing that I haven't received my xtc clip yet and pounced on gb leak since alpharev wasn't available yet
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Stam2000 said:
Ill give it a shot seeing that I haven't received my xtc clip yet and pounced on gb leak since alpharev wasn't available yet
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Please, post your results. I'm curious to hear!

I tried it, and I received an error from the ruu program. Error 190 or something like that.
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Can you mirror the file, FileFactory is horribly slow. 2 hours? Really?

Does this downgrade HBOOT so you can root the device? I just picked up a new Incredible 2 on Craigslist, 2 days old. Came with Gingerbread installed

shoman24v said:
Does this downgrade HBOOT so you can root the device? I just picked up a new Incredible 2 on Craigslist, 2 days old. Came with Gingerbread installed
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dunno, just called Verizon and getting a replacement, i hope it doesn't have gingerbread on it - that would be sweet.

Ok. I'm wondering if this will work. My incredible 2 has 2.3.3 with HBOOT of .97. Now AlpharevX works with that HBOOT its just that it can't can't get root because of gingerbread. Would downgrading to froyo fix this? Love this phone. Hate the ****ing bloat.
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It looks like it's an issue of security checking. If you could get it downgrade to Froyo, then it should work. But because of S-ON, it won't downgrade. At least, that's the best I can figure.

So the solution would be to just wait until GB gets S-OFF?

Conrthomas said:
So the solution would be to just wait until GB gets S-OFF?
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Yes. For whatever reason, despite being signed updates, HTC and/or Verizon won't let you downgrade the device. It worked for me because I was S-OFF already though, so it's a "security" issue.

I also have s-off on mine but after I got it I did factory reset and then it downloaded and installed update while it was charging and i never knew untill i looked and was like o crap it updated by itself so i hope this works.

sk0t i think i could hug you for this post i just ran that ruu and was able to get my root back just installed CM7

sk0t said:
Yes, it can be done. There is an RUU floating around, and I just successfully downgraded. That said, while recovery was removed, S-OFF was NOT removed.
What I do not know is how this would affect those who did OTA or the .3 release. I did flash down though from Gingersense.
More to come, as I now have to read about how to get Clockwork Recovery back into place.. That's critical now.
EDIT: Blah.. Just FYI, it doesn't look like the RUU I was using was the stock release. But it's Froyo regardless.
EDIT 2: Big Blah.. If you're S-ON, it won't work. Works fine if you're S-OFF though.
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Just made an account to post this...hope it helps. My roommate was fed up with 2.3 on her Droid X so she called verizon to complain and they send her an OTA flash back to 2.2. I know its a different phone but it may be an option for you folks that are looking as well...cheers!

blindy107 said:
Just made an account to post this...hope it helps. My roommate was fed up with 2.3 on her Droid X so she called verizon to complain and they send her an OTA flash back to 2.2. I know its a different phone but it may be an option for you folks that are looking as well...cheers!
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I have to admit, that is very interesting. I wonder if they'd do it for the HTC phones. I know the X had a ****-ton of problems with 2.3.

sk0t said:
I have to admit, that is very interesting. I wonder if they'd do it for the HTC phones. I know the X had a ****-ton of problems with 2.3.
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I just got off the phone with big red, and they said with these phones there is not a way to back out an upgrade. If anyone else has any luck, please let us know

chardie26 said:
I also have s-off on mine but after I got it I did factory reset and then it downloaded and installed update while it was charging and i never knew untill i looked and was like o crap it updated by itself so i hope this works.
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micdawg12 said:
I just got off the phone with big red, and they said with these phones there is not a way to back out an upgrade. If anyone else has any luck, please let us know
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Damn that really sucks. This is exactly what happened to my sister. I wonder, when did pushing updates with no confirmation become okay? I thought the OTA needs your permission to install?

[Q] Root for OTA Gingerbread

Hey guys, I was just curious to know if there is any way to root the DI2 with the OTA Gingerbread update.
If there isn't at the time, will there be a way in the future?
Thanks in advance,
Mike

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139625 The top post

Gingerbread breaks all if the known exploits for root. This is for all phones, not just the incredible 2. No software is perfect and I am sure an exploit will eventually be found, I suspect a downgrade to froyo method then root method will be found first.
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If you're wanting to root, and you're OTA, you might try the RUU for Froyo that's floating around. I don't know if it will work with S-ON phones though, I've only tested it on mine which was S-OFF, and it didn't return it to S-ON.

could you link the RUU to froyo?

troyftw said:
could you link the RUU to froyo?
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Third one from the top: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033922

Any word on whether this successfully downgrades the phone to Froyo with S-ON?

downgrade no go
I took the leaked GB maybe 10 days ago and really like it.
Am S-On.
Tried the Froyo downgrade zip, and it starts, runs a bit, and
stops, saying downgrade of software Not Possible. Then
only choice is reboot phone.

michaelbsheldon said:
I took the leaked GB maybe 10 days ago and really like it.
Am S-On.
Tried the Froyo downgrade zip, and it starts, runs a bit, and
stops, saying downgrade of software Not Possible. Then
only choice is reboot phone.
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I was afraid of that. Gotta be a way around it, but I wouldn't have the foggiest idea where to begin.

michaelbsheldon said:
I took the leaked GB maybe 10 days ago and really like it.
Am S-On.
Tried the Froyo downgrade zip, and it starts, runs a bit, and
stops, saying downgrade of software Not Possible. Then
only choice is reboot phone.
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I also had a similar experience, but received an error about the boot loader not being the right one or something to that affect. I am S-ON and was able to go back and forth between GB 2.18.605.3 .4 without any issues.

What about a goldcard method, would that work?

Incredible 2 Preloaded with 2.3.3

I received an Inc 2 as a replacement phone and it came preloaded with the gingerbread ota.
I have researched various forums and have found some conflicting information. Mainly, this thread serves as a clarification for myself and those that also have gingerbread preinstalled.
1. Is it possible to downgrade to froyo in order to root when the phone comes preinstalled with gingerbread?
2. Is there currently a way, software wise, to root the 2.3.3 gingerbread update?
3. If the answer to the previous questions is no, is it ever going to be possible to install a custom rom and/or gain root access ?
Basically I am trying to decide if I should attempt to exchange it for an Inc2 with the old froyo software installed.
Thanks in advance.

I got lucky, I already replaced fascinate with dinc2 and got it today, however I had froyo on it.
1. no
2. no
3. Wait for an exploit or buy XTC clip.

No, you cannot downgrade to Froyo without rooting the phone.
No, there is no way to root the phone via software, YET.
Yes, it is likely that there will eventually be a software root for GB phones. It might be a while, because they just came out with froyo root a few weeks ago.
You could always get in on one of those XTC clip trading/group buy deals. I would just keep your phone for the time being, because honestly, there aren't any good ROM's yet. (this goes along with the fact that the phone just recently got rooted)
You're not really missing out on anything. My phone is rooted, and I am running the OTA debloated, not much different....

AT&T did that with My ARIA when I ordered it it was supposed to have 2.1 (Eclair) on it that was rootable, but by the time I got it they had released 2.2 (Froyo) and they shipped it that way.
I didn't have to wait very long before S-OFF was achieved though.
I imagine some Dev will stumble onto a way to S-OFF the latest OTA.
But If its the latest version I as far as I know you will need an XTC-Clip to get S-OFF.

I had miui on my fassy and miss it greatly
Oh well, it was worth a shot. Guess I can deal with stock for a while, if it becomes too unbearable I'll cough up the money for a clip.

haha you'll have the official MIUI with dinc2. check miui-us's post

deaffob said:
haha you'll have the official MIUI with dinc2. check miui-us's post
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Drooling over that currently haha
At least sense is better than touchwiz

I saw a few guys on here claim to be able to downgrade, but I don't know the truth to that statement. If I was in your position I would look into it, though.
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From what I can gather, you can only downgrade if your phone was rooted and s-off applied before the gingerbread update. In the case of phones with the preinstalled gingerbread ota it is not possible. Again, I am basically guessing but I believe this to be the case.
If it's true that you can downgrade and root, please correct me immediately lol

I think you're right, if you're S-OFF you can restore back to froyo with an RUU, but the whole point of having S-OFF is to be able to flash unofficial firmware, so if you're already on gingerbread and S-ON you're out of luck for now.
Has anyone confirmed that the XTC clip works for S-OFF on gingerbread?

dogshmog said:
No, you cannot downgrade to Froyo without rooting the phone.
No, there is no way to root the phone via software, YET.
Yes, it is likely that there will eventually be a software root for GB phones. It might be a while, because they just came out with froyo root a few weeks ago.
You could always get in on one of those XTC clip trading/group buy deals. I would just keep your phone for the time being, because honestly, there aren't any good ROM's yet. (this goes along with the fact that the phone just recently got rooted)
You're not really missing out on anything. My phone is rooted, and I am running the OTA debloated, not much different....
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There aren't any good roms yet? Really I guess omgb omfgb miui and cm suck lol

dogshmog said:
No, you cannot downgrade to Froyo without rooting the phone.
No, there is no way to root the phone via software, YET.
Yes, it is likely that there will eventually be a software root for GB phones. It might be a while, because they just came out with froyo root a few weeks ago.
You could always get in on one of those XTC clip trading/group buy deals. I would just keep your phone for the time being, because honestly, there aren't any good ROM's yet. (this goes along with the fact that the phone just recently got rooted)
You're not really missing out on anything. My phone is rooted, and I am running the OTA debloated, not much different....
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You're right there sent any 'food's roms there are 'great' roms. CM and MIUI are completely stable and considering the fact that software root was just released I would say that's a great sign of things to come. Plus we have some great sense 3.0 roms that are being worked on as we speak. Bottom line is if you want to harness the best of your phone's hardware you'll need s-off.
Software s-off is not yet possible but an xtc clip definitely works. It is a hardware unlock so it doesn't matter which rom you have installed as it does its process in hboot before the rom even loads. The reason software s-off for gb isn't possible yet is because the exploit alpharevx used is patched in gb. I'm sure they'll find a way sooner or later but patience is the key.
This post is not meant to demean anyone just putting nlmy thoughts out there. Oh and by the way this thread probably belongs in the general section
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