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Just wondering if any xda developers would be willing to do and Android port to the samsung wave if a bounty was available for it?
The Wave and Wave II have almost identical hardware however the Wave II has a 3.7 SLCD (vs the Wave I's 3.3 SAMOLED although they both have the same resolution)
And both devices are very similar in terms of hardware to the rest of the Samsung galaxy family.
So any one interested?
and could this be done on wave s525 too ?
Possible, but the device is quite low end hardware and the OS is lightweight enough to work on it.
There's a thread over at Samsung Wave Forums. I believe they're working on it, but at the moment it is not available.
There is supposedly some Bada Wave Project over on Samsung Wave forums however they are asking for money and have yet to show results and it doesn't sound like anything real is happening. If a real Android port were to happen it would have to come from some of the talent here at XDA.
I have been watching the guy, hes not capable of doing it, i am almost certain of it. I have not seen one iota of proof that he has the first notion where to start.
We would be willing to start up a bounty and collect money for somebody here to actually get a working port. I am all for expanding Bada but having out options open is always nice.
Also some people may also be willing to donate a Wave (some people i have come across have 2 or 3 for some reason)
i hope we would have custom ROMS for our wave soon
I can See Custom ROM's coming to Bada soon, but an Android Port, due to Low End Hardware as stated above wouldn't be the easiest of tasks, It's not porting Froyo from HTC Desire HD to HTC HD2 ( which are like dramaticly twin hardwares ) ... if a port it is to be done, they would have a Kernel that fits the Resources need to the decide and thn it would have to be Hard Coded... and seriously, that's not something to be done by our Fine Xda Geniuses but by Multi Millionaire companies ( such as samsung lol ), it would be just too much work, but custom ROM completely doable since an SDK is already out there
Just my opinion
Ok thats sounds reasonable, i think you may be right any way. I look forward to seeing what enhancements are made to bada over the coming months.
crusader0011 said:
I can See Custom ROM's coming to Bada soon, but an Android Port, due to Low End Hardware as stated above wouldn't be the easiest of tasks, It's not porting Froyo from HTC Desire HD to HTC HD2 ( which are like dramaticly twin hardwares ) ... if a port it is to be done, they would have a Kernel that fits the Resources need to the decide and thn it would have to be Hard Coded... and seriously, that's not something to be done by our Fine Xda Geniuses but by Multi Millionaire companies ( such as samsung lol ), it would be just too much work, but custom ROM completely doable since an SDK is already out there
Just my opinion
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I can't understand how you are telling that the Wave s8500 & Wave II s8530 have low-end hardware.
1 ghz. processor with 512 MB RAM. How could be that low-end ?
Its hardware is much powerful than the Galaxy 3 & Optimus One.
I'm sure that Android can be ported on it & no it won't require some big corporation to do that. Android is open source for anyone to modify & use.
I didn't get to understand either, as far as I remember, Samsung Wave has the same processor as iPhone4, same graphics as Galaxy S (and better than iPhone4, like we all know) and 512MB of RAM memory... =P
I like android..
But,bada is very cool
have read it many a times..but i dont know what it is..
can anyone tell what is "custom ROMS" exactly??
there is the Wave 2 and Wave 2 pro as well the Wave 725 which are different than the Wave and Wave II, They could handle an Android Port but it would be a little slow id imagine, (although considering the sheer speed of my G1 maybe not) The Wave and Wave II could definitely handle and Android port.
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have read it many a times..but i dont know what it is..
can anyone tell what is "custom ROMS" exactly??
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Custom roms is like a whole new bunch of settings and looks of ur os.. Same os but with more optimizations and different UI and stuff
sabianadmin said:
there is the Wave 2 and Wave 2 pro as well the Wave 725 which are different than the Wave and Wave II, They could handle an Android Port but it would be a little slow id imagine, (although considering the sheer speed of my G1 maybe not) The Wave and Wave II could definitely handle and Android port.
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Even the Samsung Galaxy Spica managed to run Android 2.3 (Gingerbread), why wouldn't our Waves run it?
We 'just' need to find a way to replace Wave's bootloader with a different one, which is the most difficult part of porting Android to Wave, and then everything's gonna be possible !
Yeah if we where to figure out how exactally to get the boot loader on the wave out of the picture then we would have no problem porting android, heck i have the spec sheet here i could have a working build done up in a day from source!
Clockworkmod wanna give this a try for a free wave and some money??
clearly there is more demand for android on wave than anything else.....looking at the number of replies and stuff......
Android has already been ported to devices running other os like iPhone (iOS), HTC HD2 (WM 6.1) & Nokia N900 (Maemo). So I am pretty sure that it cam be ported to Wave too.
I can clearly see the lack of interest in the developers.
There are more users of Wave than that of N900, so why shouldn't it be ported to Wave ?
i think its just the ppl from badafroums that are participating in this.. where are other ppl??
I know that they usually don't include that in us model phones, but it would be a shame because I'm seeing a lot of the apps just attach to things like Samsung Keyboard and extend functionality, or be customized for S Pen. Can someone chime in?
Hi, I want a phone with Android stock, and good specs, I was thinking about a Samsung Galaxy S4 GOOGLE play edition, but I'd like to know, if anyone from here have it, and if it's like having a Nexus, where all the updates will be received as soon as Google release them, and not like Samsung that I must wait months for them? thanks in advanced.
saman0suke1 said:
Hi, I want a phone with Android stock, and good specs, I was thinking about a Samsung Galaxy S4 GOOGLE play edition, but I'd like to know, if anyone from here have it, and if it's like having a Nexus, where all the updates will be received as soon as Google release them, and not like Samsung that I must wait months for them? thanks in advanced.
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Updates to your phone's operating system are released by your cellphone carrier, not Samsung. Samsung releases their updates, which are then modified by each phone company to meet their unique needs, and then are released.
Some phone companies are better than others about releasing updates. Phones in Europe tend to get updated first, which allows people in the US to load those international ROMs, but they usually are missing the US carriers' special "features" (sometimes known as "bloatware"). Of course, you have to be rooted and willing to accept the risk associated with loading third-party ROMs to use those in the US.
For example, the international version of the latest ROM for the Samsung Galaxy S4 works on US phones, but does not have T-Mobile's wifi calling feature because T-Mobile has not yet released their version. Other carriers have released their version of that update, but T-Mobile has not.
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Updates to your phone's operating system are released by your cellphone carrier, not Samsung. Samsung releases their updates, which are then modified by each phone company to meet their unique needs, and then are released.
Some phone companies are better than others about releasing updates. Phones in Europe tend to get updated first, which allows people in the US to load those international ROMs, but they usually are missing the US carriers' special "features" (sometimes known as "bloatware"). Of course, you have to be rooted and willing to accept the risk associated with loading third-party ROMs to use those in the US.
For example, the international version of the latest ROM for the Samsung Galaxy S4 works on US phones, but does not have T-Mobile's wifi calling feature because T-Mobile has not yet released their version. Other carriers have released their version of that update, but T-Mobile has not.
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So,does that mean that, even If I get an "Android stock" phone, it depends on my carrier to receive or not the latest updates? thanks, sorry for the lack of knowledge regarding this!
saman0suke1 said:
So,does that mean that, even If I get an "Android stock" phone, it depends on my carrier to receive or not the latest updates? thanks, sorry for the lack of knowledge regarding this!
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No, he is incorrect for the Google Play Edition Galaxy S4, if you buy the Play edition, you will get the latest Android version about a week or two after nexus devices receive them, since it is contract free, no carrier can control the updates. Instead, Google gives the code to Samsung and they then release the update for the Play edition S4.
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No, he is incorrect for the Google Play Edition Galaxy S4, if you buy the Play edition, you will get the latest Android version about a week or two after nexus devices receive them, since it is contract free, no carrier can control the updates. Instead, Google gives the code to Samsung and they then release the update for the Play edition S4.
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That's what I'm looking for, first of all, I don't like the Touchwiz UI, and then I always have to wait a lot for the updates, so, is this the way how it works? thanks!
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That's what I'm looking for, first of all, I don't like the Touchwiz UI, and then I always have to wait a lot for the updates, so, is this the way how it works? thanks!
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Yup, Google gives Samsung the latest Android version and then they work on it to add some additional features, such as S-view functionality and they release it normally a week or two after nexus devices, which is much faster than the normal S4.
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Yup, Google gives Samsung the latest Android version and then they work on it to add some additional features, such as S-view functionality and they release it normally a week or two after nexus devices, which is much faster than the normal S4.
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But they do not convert it to TouchWiz right? I know that there is the HTC One Google play and the Nexus 4 as well, but I guess the most powerful between these is the S4 right now, do you know if all the Samsung Galaxy Note 3's comes with Android stock? I read something about it, but this is offtopic really, thanks!
saman0suke1 said:
But they do not convert it to TouchWiz right? I know that there is the HTC One Google play and the Nexus 4 as well, but I guess the most powerful between these is the S4 right now, do you know if all the Samsung Galaxy Note 3's comes with Android stock? I read something about it, but this is offtopic really, thanks!
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Technically it is touchwiz without the theme, Samsung basically uses the touchwiz framework but use the stock AOSP theme instead of their own, but it will NOT look like touchwiz, it only uses the framework, but will look like AOSP, and the user interface on the Nexus 4. No, the Galaxy Note 3 will not come with stock Android, it will come with touchwiz and all its features that Samsung has planned for it. Unless they release a Google Play Edition of the Note 3.
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Technically it is touchwiz without the theme, Samsung basically uses the touchwiz framework but use the stock AOSP theme instead of their own, but it will NOT look like touchwiz, it only uses the framework, but will look like AOSP, and the user interface on the Nexus 4. No, the Galaxy Note 3 will not come with stock Android, it will come with touchwiz and all its features that Samsung has planned for it. Unless they release a Google Play Edition of the Note 3.
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Do you know if this Google Play S4 is as "open" as the Nexus in which an Ubuntu version can be installed without major problems? thanks!
I may be way out of line here and if so I apologize - however coming from the Galaxy Nexus to the Galaxy Note 3 I'm mostly pretty happy except with certain aspects of Samsungs software stupidity that I can't seem to get rid of. I've been using the GEL and its amazing but I want to get back to "stock android" as much as possible. This means getting rid of the assnine Gingerbread-era settings menus, dialers, people app and other apps that look like they were plucked from my Droid X from 3 years ago.
Am I being unreasonable when I look at the available ROM's on the T-mo section and see that there aren't any kitkat ROMs available yet? Is there a development hurdle for the Galaxy devices that makes it impossible to make a AOSP-based ROM? (As if it needs to be said, I'm not a developer).
I love the hardware and the S-pen functionality (why I bought it), but I need to rid myself of the 90's era UI that samsung has foisted on us. Am I missing a ROM out there that can fulfill my needs?
I don't think there is anything aosp that can offer what tw had to offer when it comes to s pen functionality.
I had the note 2 before this and was running paranoid ROM which didn't have the cool s pen features.
What I've used the most is the pen window feature. Taking a quick note or using the calc has been handy.
Grande Note 3
Defenestratus said:
I may be way out of line here and if so I apologize - however coming from the Galaxy Nexus to the Galaxy Note 3 I'm mostly pretty happy except with certain aspects of Samsungs software stupidity that I can't seem to get rid of. I've been using the GEL and its amazing but I want to get back to "stock android" as much as possible. This means getting rid of the assnine Gingerbread-era settings menus, dialers, people app and other apps that look like they were plucked from my Droid X from 3 years ago.
Am I being unreasonable when I look at the available ROM's on the T-mo section and see that there aren't any kitkat ROMs available yet? Is there a development hurdle for the Galaxy devices that makes it impossible to make a AOSP-based ROM? (As if it needs to be said, I'm not a developer).
I love the hardware and the S-pen functionality (why I bought it), but I need to rid myself of the 90's era UI that samsung has foisted on us. Am I missing a ROM out there that can fulfill my needs?
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We all feel your pain brother.
I have owned 3 Samsung Galaxy devices before this one and all have had AOSP/AOKP/CM10.2
For some reason or another, a developer not made a bare bone AOSP rom.
Which we all want.
Believe me when I say, we all know touchwiz is getting annoying.
My current setup is Stock Deodexed Debloated with the AOSP theme found in the "Themes and Apps" section, also with the Kit Kat Launcher.
I downloaded all of the Nexus 5 apps (Calendar, Camera, Gallery, Clock, etc. And deleted the Touchwiz ones.
This is as close as we can get for now .
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so do you think that samsung 8.4 tab will get android M??? or you think they will not update it anymore?
Monster212 said:
so do you think that samsung 8.4 tab will get android M??? or you think they will not update it anymore?
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Considering we're still only on 5.0.2 and 5.1.1 has been out for many months I'd feel there is little chance this year if ever. A custom ROM will be our best bet. Also be careful what you wish for as you still see many posts from people reverting to KitKat while Lollipop has been great for me.
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Let first hope that we will get 5.1.1 first then think about android M
One day, when we've moved on to other devices, Samsung may release M for the Tab S
they might just be skipping 5.1.x and going directly to M...
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they might just be skipping 5.1.x and going directly to M...
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Did Samsung say that?
i read on another web site that has a list confirmed from samsung that will get the update to M, this site posted this info yesterday... they also say that more will be added to the list, not sure if i am allowed to post links to other sites on here so i will post the site... buts its on a site with Samsung in it.. google is your friend... if i am allowed to post links i will add the link..
List of Samsung devices that will get Official Android M updates:
- Samsung Galaxy S6
- Samsung Galaxy S6 Duos
- Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge
- Samsung Galaxy Note 4
- Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Duos
- Samsung Galaxy Note Edge
- Samsung Galaxy ALPHA
- Samsung Galaxy Tab A
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Did Samsung say that?
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no, pure speculation
but I just wonder the point of devoting energy into 5.1 when M is on the horizon.
who knows how it works though.
I dont think tab s can run android m properly
If we wont get the android M update from samsung maybe we will get a a port like cm13 who knows
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I dont think tab s can run android m properly
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M is supposed to be optimized and with several improvements in comparison to LP.
So if it can run LP than it will fly with M.
It's Samsung obligation to provide Android M, because of the 2 year firmware support. No excuses are accepted!
Being fed up with all my Samsung devices firmware sluggish and dated updates, I'm considering in the future moving to Nexus or Apple.
Samsung, please don't ask premium prices, and then provide the cheapest support.
I agree @pacc I think I will move on to one plus LG and nexus my next device wont be samsung
I read the other day that galaxy tab 4 is receiving android 5.1.1 around now , so I'm hoping the tab S will get it too...anything else doesn't make sense; both devices released around the same time, and tab S is the premium one...
As for M, that just wild speculation. My money is on "no, we won't get that"
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IMHO, and I'm no expert just an end user, Android and Apple bite. Not ONE Android based device I have is capable of browsing the internet with the same functionality as Chrome, Firefox or IE. Facebook apps are lame at best and I prefer the interface we are given with a browser over any of the apps. I'm not going to buy any future Android based devices. I totally refuse to purchase anything from Apple after being stung buying an iPOD years ago.
So IF I ever buy another tablet, and that's pretty doubtful, it will be Windows based, cell phone too.
Samsung, Asus, Rockchip devices using Android....no more of my money....
Samsung suckered me in with a great price for awesome hardware but I am more educated now I would never buy a Samsung these days. I originally installed a custom ROM because I got tired of all the lag and bugs of Tab S stock kitkat. Expensive lesson as now my knox is tripped.. Samsung probably isn't excited to release software because everyone is wiping to get rid of lag then never reporting into their service. I lasted two months.. I would type a sentence then wait as it slowly came out, it was epic bad lag.
I lasted 2 days and tjen wiped and flashed a custom rom lol I guess thats the reason why they dont update
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I read the other day that galaxy tab 4 is receiving android 5.1.1 around now , so I'm hoping the tab S will get it too...anything else doesn't make sense; both devices released around the same time, and tab S is the premium one...
As for M, that just wild speculation. My money is on "no, we won't get that"
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They may be using Tab 4 as a test before putting their eggs in the basket with the Tab S.
I must have lower expectations of my tab than you guy`s, I am still on kitkat and apart from rooting to get full microsd access i have had no problems at all, I don't care about updates they seem to cause more problems than they are worth.
John.
Great devices totally ruined by that crappy samsung software