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Android on Omnia II Possible?

There is a way to put Android on the Omnia 2?

I second the request from Niccolo

I don't see why not. If it's possible on other WinMo phones, then the Omnia line is possible too. On the other hand, just as with other phones, it will probably have to be built from the ground up, especially since the Omnia II has different hardware.

that would be v.nice

i second this request. though i like winmo, wouldnt mind being able to dualboot to android! for fun and braggin rights! hehehe

I have been looking in the web very hard and i haven´t found anything.
we have to join

Gen.Y DualBOOT
One hope is the Gen.Y DualBOOT.
Take a look at this topic: h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623792
Enjoy =P

can some one create a xdandroid for omnia ii since it has the same resolution as hd2?

digao100nocao said:
One hope is the Gen.Y DualBOOT.
Take a look at this topic: h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623792
Enjoy =P
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That's a dualbooter only, that was created to use with XDANDROID, wich is mean't to work with an handfull of HTC devices...
But i hope too, if there is android working on the i900's, that a port for the i8000 (and b7610 ) must'n be far

real_life said:
That's a dualbooter only, that was created to use with XDANDROID, wich is mean't to work with an handfull of HTC devices...
But i hope too, if there is android working on the i900's, that a port for the i8000 (and b7610 ) must'n be far
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There is actually a andriod for i900. I think the site's name was "Andromnia"
I "third" the motion(?) for andriod on our o2

Hi there,
they have port android on HTC HD1. it's in WVGA and for windows mobile devices, maybe some cazy guys want to try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621498&highlight=android+HD
Supports Blackstone, Diamond, Diamond 500, Fuze, Raphael, Raphael 800, Rhodium, Tilt 2 & Topaz
I have also post it in TG01 section, like that we will know if it's working on non HTC devices.
hope that can help.

HTC Touch HD, like most of HTC devices is powered by Qualcomm MSM 72xx. Same as G1, HTC Hero and other popular Android devices. It doesn't affect us. We need rom dumped from Android device similar to our i8000.

I'm not sure if anyone's seen this, it's a new Samsung phone, their first with Android 2.1. Specs look identical to the Omnia 2. Maybe if we can get a ROM dump from this we can get Android dual-booted, which would be fantastic.
I'm not allowed to post links apparently, you'll have to add the ws -
careace.net/2010/02/04/samsung-android-2-1-phoneshw-m100s-is-unveiled/

Samsung m100s may be the answer except for the phone having a few hardware differences.
T-DMB
802.11n Wi-Fi
800Mhz CPU(Cortex A8)I read somewhere else that it was the same as i8000/i920, we will have to wait and see

Some 1 already ported Android on Omnia i900, know as ANDROMNIA...
Check over at MoDaCo or just search google for Andromnia..
Its still Beta project and I guess its specific to Omnia i900, might/might not work on Omnia i8000... chk out the forum and get the info u need..

Well.. ARM Cortex A8 is different CPU than Omnia 2 has. But pdadb.net claims Samsung Galaxy Lite i5700 (aka Spica) has the same CPU that is used in our i8000. Can someone confirm it?

Well it seems they do at least in the "Qualcomm MSM7200A 528 MHz" part"( i don't know if there are variations of that model of procesor). The i7500 has the same CPU.
Does that mean that Android can be ported out of these machines?

While were at it, can we get Android for my little brothers Samsung Behold I and my mommys Samsung Memoir? Thanks.

Niccolo said:
There is a way to put Android on the Omnia 2?
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gsmarena.com/samsung_i8520_beam-3150.php
Have a look at this it looks like the exact same hardware with Android on it, the additional 'projector apps' should be easy to get rid of.
The one downfall is that the Omnia 2 has 256mb ram whereas this thing has 384. But in any case it is definitely a start and the fact that it will have Android v2.1 is pretty good news as it is very up to date.
Shiryu said:
Well.. ARM Cortex A8 is different CPU than Omnia 2 has. But pdadb.net claims Samsung Galaxy Lite i5700 (aka Spica) has the same CPU that is used in our i8000. Can someone confirm it?
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It is the same CPU from what i can see, however typical Samsung the thing is stuck on Android 1.5.
I have no idea how much ROM/RAM that thing has.

any luck anyone?

HTC Desire vs Samsung Wave

Hey
i saw many reports about the mwc in barcelona and the upcoming phones.
2 of them seem to be best, the HTC Desire with its awesome technic specs and the samsung wave with bada and nearly better specs.
what phone would you prefer, what do you think about bada and what about the new sense?

Bada is new, .. with little to no applications for it, while android have many applications in the market place (Over 9000 applications).
And with Android you can expect alot of support for it, but what kind of support you have for the Bada now?
I prefer Android phone over Bada in a heart beat (any Android phone, not Desire specifically)

irkan said:
many applications in the market place (Over 9000 applications).
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More than 30000
And for same raisons as Irkan, I prefer Android for now. I think Bada is too young and has not the same support as Android.

That whole Bada OS is not really reaching me. I have read almost no articles about it, while I check out almost all major phone websites daily.
Only thing I remember is when 7 Series news started popping @ MWC, one of these major websites said something like: 'Bada OS... wel, is a long way from how impressive 7 Series is, so we are going to talk about 7 Series and not Bada'. While it may not have been these exact words, this was the idea. I see Bada OS as a OS for the 'simple' people. People on this forum are not these 'simple people'.
But hey I could be wrong about Bada OS. Anyway, HTC Desire > Samsung Wave. I just don't buy Samsung devices anymore. Plus 3.3 inch = fail. Even 3.5 inch is to small.

I trust Samsung to make their own OS competently about as much as I trust my pet goldfish to figure out quantum physics. In other words--no. Bada OS will most likely function like a featurephone non-OS.

Bada OS - Featurephone OS. Esentially that's what it is, to power its Tocco like devices.
Android - Smartphone OS

I think this is the first Samsung's open OS, isn't?. Samsung support for closed OSs was/is very bad I admit it, but I believe that as open OS and including a market platform for apps, Bada could be a different stuff from Samsung.
On the other hand the Samsung wave specs point at the best device nowadays. 1GHz snapdragon, aluminium body, templed scratch-resistant glass surface, 1500 mAh battery, 720p recording, Radio FM, BT 3.0, and 16M-color Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen with 480 x 800 pixels resolution in addition to this you can read easily in a sunny day on this screen, and has improved viewer angle.
Simply perfect

Samsung Wave ... perhaps with Android OS???
So the Hardware Specs and Build Quality looks good.
The Bada OS would also put me off as it really doesn´t show any diffence to Andriod, except that there will be less apps.
I´d days a perfect Andriod 2.x phone.
Or could the Samsung SHW-M120S be the same with android?

Samsung make nice tvs and screens
Don't do nice OS
Android Everytime...
Think they made the wave to grab attention for bada

you should look at Samsung Galaxy S (Android 2.1).. not this bada device

No point in nice hardware if the OS isn't any good.
The only OS's worth anything in my opinion are Android, iOS and Windows Phone Mobile Seven Series Edition or whatever it's called (from what I've seen so far)
So yeah go with the Desire if they are the only two phones you are considering, though there are some better Android phones in my opinion.

leoon said:
you should look at Samsung Galaxy S (Android 2.1).. not this bada device
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And then revolt at the sight of Touchwizz? No thank you!
I just wish Samsung would use vanilla android and focus their attention on updating their phones with the latest android builds.
Imagine the galaxy s getting the froyo update just weeks after the nexus one. A lot of people would jump ship to samsung android phones just for their after sales support.

pr0orz1337 said:
I think this is the first Samsung's open OS, isn't?. Samsung support for closed OSs was/is very bad I admit it, but I believe that as open OS and including a market platform for apps, Bada could be a different stuff from Samsung.
On the other hand the Samsung wave specs point at the best device nowadays. 1GHz snapdragon, aluminium body, templed scratch-resistant glass surface, 1500 mAh battery, 720p recording, Radio FM, BT 3.0, and 16M-color Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen with 480 x 800 pixels resolution in addition to this you can read easily in a sunny day on this screen, and has improved viewer angle.
Simply perfect
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It doesn't have a snapdragon does it? I thought it has samsung's own hummingbird cpu like the galaxy s does...
So in that way it's even better but bada doesn't seem competative to android and others

My sister got an Samsung Wave some month ago because she is in a Samsung Developer Program. Having played around with it and a Nexus One ive got to say:
Pro:
Bada is faster and snappier than Android 2.1 (don't know about 2.2).
Every App i tested ran more fluently and the battery drain was lower than on the Nexus One. From an Performance and Stability Point of View i think Bada is the better OS.
It's going to be cheaper than any comparable Device because Samsung wants to push Bada with it.
Con:
Currently there is a ridiculously small amount of applications out there, not even one Car-Navigation App. This is the Show-Stopper for me because i use my Xpera X1 currently for Music(SenseMp3), Car Navigation (TomTom), Mails and Browsing and to give up on the Hardware Keyboard that lets me write longer mails without pain and to give up on the Car Navigation Feature is just not imaginable for me.
Developing own Applications for Bada is Done in C++ which makes it quite harder for anyone who loves the convenience of Java or Python. But i think this is a reason why its OS works so well on its own.

Samsung Wave with Android
The build quality seams much better than the Glaxay S.
So is it not possible to port a nicer Android OS to the Samsung Wave?
Or it it that hard to get Bada off the Phone?
I mean they ported Android to the Iphone 3gs already.

I just really dont like Samsung devices.. they are too much like cheap chinese toys with really bizarre functions that never quite step up to the mark.
I'm sure they've released a couple of serious handsets but all the ones I've used are very much WTF!?!?!

Agreed with previous , with phones samsung not going well ,
but looking on hardware specs i consider to take this one -
just if it will be in android os!!!

Since buying my Omnia II im so disillusiond with samsung. It had the best specs when it came on the market. But the horrible OS thats on it! I had to buy a shell and have flashed numerous roms to be able to use the phone anywhere near normal. And now a year later the phone still has not got working opengl drivers. And development has probably stopped on the phone.
Never a samsung again for me.
I'm so jealous of you guys who have a desire (just a few more months till contract renewal!!)

I've both wave and desire, what should i say ... the wave is a nice piece of electronics, fantastic display and good quality but bada is not as good as samsung want us to believe. very little apps, half-baked apps (email e.g.) and often unintuitive handling. It has not that flexibility android has. But in deed batterylife is much better then any other smartphone i know except blackberrys and we've to consider that its version 1.0, so maybe bada's development is as fast as android's - as is know samsung, i don't believe.

remko1981 said:
Never a samsung again for me.
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It's looks like similar for me, but for Eten devices, so at least clear now the situation.
Then need to wait similar device from HTC , about 3.2-3.5", 1GHz, small weight and powerful battery on Android

Desire or Galaxy S?

Hello,
I was so close to buy the Desire until I saw the ad of the Galaxy S..
Amazing screen (normal under sunlight), more powerful cpu/gpu.. but its Samsung! and after reading lots of comments they said that Samsung is crap! is it right? Why?
If its only the UI that is crap can I root it and install another room?
So, Should I wait for the Galaxy S or get the Desire?
Thanks.

DESIRE without doubt

It all depends on what you want. I have had Samsung phones in the past and they were pretty good. Those types of responses remind me of students in college who say "Yea...that professor is hard and rude...don't take him!'
IMHO the best thing to do is get some hands-on time with both of them if possible. Even try them out for a couple of days. That is the only way you will actually know which one is right for you.

you will actually know which one is right for you.
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What do u mean by that?
They are the same super phones but with some advantages to the Galaxy, right?
I will use my phone for apps, games, multimedia, browsing etc. (not for business..) so I think both those phones are the top for these kind of stuff..
I just dont understand why everyone hates so much Samsung..

leoon said:
What do u mean by that?
They are the same super phones but with some advantages to the Galaxy, right?
I will use my phone for apps, games, multimedia, browsing etc. (not for business..) so I think both those phones are the top for these kind of stuff..
I just dont understand why everyone hates so much Samsung..
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In other words...use your buyers-remorse, return/exchange period to try out both phones. Do research when the Samsung Galaxy S comes out and see what others have to say on the forums.
The worst thing you can do is be biased towards one or the other. If you believe what others say about Samsung and how sh*tty they are, then once you actually do see the phone...you will try to find some sort of discrepancy with it (its simple psychology )
Yes, the Galaxy has a bigger screen and a "rumored" faster processor. However, until the final product is made and released...the hardware and software can still change.

leoon said:
What do u mean by that?
They are the same super phones but with some advantages to the Galaxy, right?
I will use my phone for apps, games, multimedia, browsing etc. (not for business..) so I think both those phones are the top for these kind of stuff..
I just dont understand why everyone hates so much Samsung..
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Samsung are fully behind their new Bada OS. They've stated that only 20% or less of their devices from now on will run Android and I only expect that to go down. That and HTC are the de facto hardware standard for all Android devices.

Haha you have no clue.
Actually, 50% of Samsung phones will be Android and another 33% will be Bada. The rest is for Windows Phones and other crap.
In response to the thread question: I chose the Desire, because the Galaxy S doesn't have a flash for the camera.
One (and the only!) annoyance with the Desire is the limited internal storage for applications. It's only 140MB. You can install applications to the SD card, but it will still go down. According to Google, the option to install to the SD card will come to Android 'soon'.
The Galaxy S will also have the better screen I think. That's because the Desire's screen is not full 800x480, because it uses a pixel layout with only two sub-pixels instead of three, which makes it seem a little bit blurry (but really just a little bit).
And last, but not least, I think HTC's software is probably better than Samsung's. Sense (even if you don't like the launcher) is a very useful add-on (e.g. the much better dialer) and I am not sure about whether Samsung is able to compete in that regard.

I chose the Desire, because the Galaxy S doesn't have a flash for the camera.
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It seems that you choose the Desire just because the galaxys doesnt have flash! even though the screen+cpu+720p video recording and still only for the lack of flash you dont choose the galaxys!?
What im gonna do is to wait till its released and read the indepth review about the phone.
Thanks for the replies goys.. i choose to wait.

I feel compelled to point out a few things in this discussion.
First, assuming that "buyer's remorse" is a global standard is a mistake. In many countries, including Sweden where I'm based, you can return products for up to 30 days after a purchase with the caveat that the package/seal is unbroken. This applies to electronics. This means that everybody needs to check up on their local regulations and that of the retailer before you go out and buy something, expecting to be able to fiddle with it and then just return it.
Secondly, calling Bada an OS is a misnomer. It's a platform. A platform that can be placed on many different OS's. To me, it sounds like Samsung will be releasing several phones with Bada on top of their own proprietary operating system until they can either see a clear winner of the OS market share battle or until the OS's catch up with what they want and know they can offer the market in terms of functionality. Of course, where the boundary between the platform and the OS goes is kind of an unknown, but I would be surprised if the Galaxy S didn't have an Android version of Bada placed on top of it - think of it as Samsung's Sense.
Thirdly and lastly, I think there is a lot of displeasure with Samsung among smartphone users because they have a tendency to both promise more than they can deliver and after the first few months of a new smartphone release quit updating the software. I own an Omnia i900 and an Omnia HD i8910 and speak from experience on this front. Mind you, the devices they put out are generally top-notch, but Samsung has a problem managing expectations.
My Desire is currently my main phone, but I'm still interested in the Galaxy S and will be waiting to see what the consumer verdict on it is once it comes out. As others have said, HTC offers a very useful overlay in Sense, the Desire is already rooted (you should never assume a phone will ever be rooted when you buy it, but it's more likely that HTC will, and in the case of the Desire it's already a fact) and, more than anything, the Desire development community is huge, active and dedicated. So at the end of the day, opting to wait several more months just to get a larger screen and a promise of 720p video recording does have its downsides.

I'm pretty interested in the Galaxy S, will almost certainly get one soon after release and see how I like it, so I can give a users comparison of both nearer the time. As per usual I'll keep whichever suits my use best.
Regards the pros for the Galaxy S, these are the main things as I see them, a few mentioned earlier and a few not yet mentioned:
- screen will be considerably better, more battery efficient, better sunlight legibility, larger, won't have the subpixels issue
- better battery capacity
- 8 or 16GB internal memory in addition to card slot
- the stills camera in all situations not requiring a flash is likely to be considerably better than the Desire's
- 720P video capture
- divx/xvid/mkv support out of the box, with certification for 720P avi playback
Worth noting that the last two there may yet come to the Desire, since they have been rumoured to be coming via firmware update for some time.
The main positives for the Desire is Root, more active Dev community, better HTC support in terms of FW upgrades/hotfixes etc.

Lets say it gets rooted, Will I be able to install into the Galaxy S the ROM of the Desire, so I can take advantage of the active dev community?
Thanks.

In theory, yes, you can. But there will be issues, which means it may not be worth it.

I think not, maybe, but different drivers..it would take time for sure!

leoon said:
It seems that you choose the Desire just because the galaxys doesnt have flash! even though the screen+cpu+720p video recording and still only for the lack of flash you dont choose the galaxys!?
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Yes, just because of the flash. I absolutely need it, that's why I chose the Desire.
Other than the missing flash, the Galaxy looks quite good.
@NZtechfreak
Your points are right, except for the part about the camera. The Desire uses a camera module made by Samsung. The Galaxy will very likely use the exact same camera module. And of course, at night, it will be useless without the flash.

Galaxy S may be better hardware-wise, but..
It's possible that Galaxy S won't have flash (but there are some rumors it will), so that is a dealbreaker for me (the reason why I switched from the Hero).
The other (more important) reason is that previous Android phones from Samsung had almost no scene development going on. Just compare the Dream/Hero scene to the Galaxy i7500.
Last but not least Samsungs support and bugfixing is worse that HTCs (yes, it is possible ).
That is why I decided to go with the Desire. If you don't mind waiting I would suggest to wait for the Nexus Two.

Or you can wait until the Google I/O Conference...

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As others have said, HTC offers a very useful overlay in Sense, the Desire is already rooted (you should never assume a phone will ever be rooted when you buy it, but it's more likely that HTC will, and in the case of the Desire it's already a fact) and, more than anything, the Desire development community is huge, active and dedicated.
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Hi all, been reading the Desire threads with interest as I'm able to upgrade in July, currently have a Blackstone, and at the mo it's most definately looking like the Desire will be my new phone, looks like a superb piece of kit, but, I need to use tethering on whatever handset I have, and up until now thought I would have to do this on a Desire via USB, because you can't do it wirelessly unless you root first.
Everything I have read here and anywhere else up until I read the above post says the Desire needs rooting to do this.
So, is it already rooted out of the box or not ? I'm puzzled !

Comments from a tester of RC1 firmware Galaxy S in an Australian forum:
- much faster in use than Desire
- much better screen (brightness, vividness & outdoors visibility)
- better battery life time than Desire with stock ROM (no hacks)
- camera is only ok
- very responsive touch
Just FYI. I think both phones are great.

two phones are great and the galaxy s does have super amoled, altho desire have amoled, super amoled is better under the sun. but somehow i don't like how the galaxy looks. it looks - plain, boring..
hopefully htc will release the update when froyo is out together with some fixes and 720p recording.

The only Android phone I would buy is Google branded or HTC. Because they have much more experience with Android than others, and they are more connected together. Also updates will be much more regular for Desire, since it is almost N1 clone. And community for HTC Android phones is much bigger than for Samsung.

Run Android on WinMo 7

I have followed XDA for quite some time and have been waiting for someone to get a little bored with android like myself and start the modding of the new WinMo 7 phones to run both Android and WinMo 7. I can't find anything on it. Is it just not possible (yet)??? I know the devices can handle it...1ghz, 16gb internal, plenty of memory...Vibrant, etc. Seems like the perfect device for a dual boot Eclair/Froyo and WinMo 7. Windows Mobile 6x running Android is old and the 1st one I did was the Tytn II by HTC. Slow, but it was still nice to have both.
Any Devs out there wanna push this? I'll buy hardware and do any tests wanted. Seems Samsung specs are pretty equal between the Vibrant and Focus or even like the port of Android to the HD2...can it be done using the HD7 from T-Mo?

In the case of Samsung, why wouldn't you just get the Captivate (Galaxy S)? Already has Android. The Focus is basically the same phone...

scottadams2m2003 said:
I have followed XDA for quite some time and have been waiting for someone to get a little bored with android like myself and start the modding of the new WinMo 7 phones to run both Android and WinMo 7. I can't find anything on it. Is it just not possible (yet)??? I know the devices can handle it...1ghz, 16gb internal, plenty of memory...Vibrant, etc. Seems like the perfect device for a dual boot Eclair/Froyo and WinMo 7. Windows Mobile 6x running Android is old and the 1st one I did was the Tytn II by HTC. Slow, but it was still nice to have both.
Any Devs out there wanna push this? I'll buy hardware and do any tests wanted. Seems Samsung specs are pretty equal between the Vibrant and Focus or even like the port of Android to the HD2...can it be done using the HD7 from T-Mo?
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why start from ZERO when HD2 is already running Android pretty smoothly and will be getting wp7 soon? Not to bash or anything but wp7 may not be as easy to tinker with as compared to wm6.

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WP7 ROM for touch diamond

Does anybody know, about porting this wp7 build, for our devices, if it possible, or not, waiting for answers, thank's.It will be the better than porting Android(which is so hard to do)

Porting wp7 is way harder,you don't have source,you are out of the minimal requirements and you don't even have enough nand..
Android is much more doable..

hi.
we have new htc diamond and I want to ask if is available Android for this phone!
Thank you!

don't dream about that

It's possible but it must be not that easy than Android and it must be really so hard and it takes more a long times to development. I'm sure someday there'll be someone will do that in XDA-Dev.......

brewhoxs said:
It's possible but it must be not that easy than Android and it must be really so hard and it takes more a long times to development. I'm sure someday there'll be someone will do that in XDA-Dev.......
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I don't think it'll ever come to the htc touch diamond, cause it's like putting android on a Samsung E900 or something, no-one iswaiting on that

Android might eventually be available for NAND on Diamond but my guess is WP7 will never be ported.. Android is just the better OS out of them all
Android had a slow start with coming to the world of mobile operating systems and the G1 was a superb example of what can be achieved. Since then Android has rocketed to the top of the charts and is now running on almost all new devices. Being open source there are a variety of different builds and mods, Including a vast growing number of apps coming to the market
In my opinion Apple will have to do something spectacular with its OS to become the #1 OS again

Come on, think about it, The Diamond struggles to run WM6.5, hell it struggles to run 6.1 sometimes
You really think it will run WP7 ? lol Not a chance

Exactly. And even if it does run it, the battery life is just not enough..
I have TWO 1340mAh batteries and I sometime drain them both in one day!
The 900mAh stock is not enough for half a day for me lol
Although running android 2.3 through haret, I get over a day with the 1340 battery... and its very smooth so having it on NAND it would last a lot longer and I imagine would be somewhat more smooth than what it is now

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