I've been reading around, and have seen that some people have been able to increase the radio power on their phones leading to increased bandwidth... Has anyone successfully done this? If so, how can I do this?
wow...i didn't even know that was possible...i always thought that was controlled by the network...as in the towers or something. then again where there's a will..there's a way
I'm not sure about hacking a Radio? I know that there are different Radio's available that allow different reception\battery life\GPS fix, there are a few radio's out for the Dash\Excalibur but not as much choice as many other models mainly due to fact not as many official builds or people porting them from other models.
miker2431 said:
I've been reading around, and have seen that some people have been able to increase the radio power on their phones leading to increased bandwidth... Has anyone successfully done this? If so, how can I do this?
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I have also heard about this !.! several times on 2 forums (I cannot remember witch ones)
I thought this would be really cool hack did lots of research BUT NEVER found a how to guide.
there is people saying this is possible but there is no guide.....
Never bad to have a strounger Radio on Dash Excalibur
miker2431 said:
I've been reading around, and have seen that some people have been able to increase the radio power on their phones leading to increased bandwidth... Has anyone successfully done this? If so, how can I do this?
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I hate reviving dead threads... but a quick explanation which might spur interest. This would be plausible for any American phone that isnt running the T-mobile network. Radio signal runs off the towers, when a cellular company increase cellular tower power they release a patch OTA (most times) or on the web page changing the current radio software to the updated radio software. Sooo I know that tmo has nothing new i checked with a tmo rep today but at&t might be an option worth looking at.
Radio Hacking to get better bandwith
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I'm not sure about hacking a Radio? I know that there are different Radio's available that allow different reception\battery life\GPS fix, there are a few radio's out for the Dash\Excalibur but not as much choice as many other models mainly due to fact not as many official builds or people porting them from other models.
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Hi stylez,
you´ve spoken about some wm 6.5 roms, wich habe different battery life and reception. Could you tell me a rom, with has a better battery-lifetime than the last 3vo-rom (wich is absolutely perfect but has a battery-lifetime of less than one day. )
Thanks
kowalskie
Hi,
I'm still running the OEM WM6.1 which came with my TP2. I'm interested in installing an updated version (custom?), but is a bit confused at this stage. What's the difference between a ROM, Splash and Radio? Also, my TP2 has an IMEI number, does that mean it is a GSM device and not a CDMA device?
I'm really worried about bricking it...
Thanks in advance!
Also, what is Sense, Manilla, etc.?
RTFM :~D
When someone mentions their rom, they usually mean their operating system...for instance, a cooked rom, would be a modified WinMo 6.x
A radio rom (not to be confuzzled with an FM radio) is what picks up your telephone signals.
A splash is the opening screen when you first boot your device...on mine it would be T-mo then WinMo...this can be modified, as there are usually 3 initial screens, my first screen is custom made by me (there is a great tutorial on doing that), the second is an animated gif which currently is T-mo and I will eventually change, the third is WinMo which I will also eventually change once I find images I like enough. Most cooks use either their own splash or just generic ones from HTC/WinMo. The splash is just a matter of personal taste...some people don't care if it is their carrier branding/HTC/WinMo, others want it very personal. Changing the splash usually won't have any effect on your rom other than cosmetic...you do not see the splash unless you are booting the device.
I would very strongly urge you to read every and all stickies/wiki's posted in the Rhodium section of xda. Once you have read every post in each of the above mentioned stickies/wiki's, read them again...if you don't want a brick, then educating yourself is the best way. Believe it or not, many if not all of your questions can be answered with a little reading and some searching. There is in fact an excellent tutorial to read before flashing to a new rom...
Thank you!
So a Radio ROM flash is not really a good idea if there is nothing wrong? I'm getting signal problems, could it be the Radio ROM?
I'm reading as much as possible, I really do not want to get it wrong.
If you have to ask these questions then I'd advise you to leave the whole subject well alone. The chances of you getting in a mess are much increased by your basic lack of understanding and unless you're having SERIOUS problems with your phone as it is I don't think it's wise for you to get involved.
Analogy time :
Almost all of my computers at home run Linux and I wouldn't have it any other way. But there's no way I'd advise my mum to even think about it at the moment because she still doesn't like land lines with buttons.
If you are having SERIOUS problems with reception then first of all I'd try and see whether a different phone on the same network has problems too. It could well be the network coverage where you are. If it doesn't then read the ROM section CAREFULLY. All the information you need is there and there should be no need to ask questions if you fully understand what is written. If you don't the don't !
Also I would advise that this is posted in the wrong section and should be in the ROM section
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If you have to ask these questions then I'd advise you to leave the whole subject well alone. The chances of you getting in a mess are much increased by your basic lack of understanding and unless you're having SERIOUS problems with your phone as it is I don't think it's wise for you to get involved.
Analogy time :
I almost all of my computers at home run Linux and I wouldn't have it any other way. But there's no way I'd advise my mum to even think about it at the moment because she still doesn't like land lines with buttons.
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Thanks, I get what you are saying...but, I'm a quick learner and asked the questions because I'm researching it, so know everything before I try.
Check here for all you need to know.
Hey guys, apologise in advance for what a few may consider as a 'noob' question :|
But, I'm struggling to find a radio that offers good signal strength. I can't really phone someone without my voice breaking up. So could someone suggest a good radio to flash? Thanks in advance
There isn't such thing as a best radio.
You should flash different radios and see the results for yourself.
The result depends on the rom you are using (if you are using a custom rom, it's probably best to use the radio recommended by the developer) , also of course the location you are at. See the AdamG thread in development section for a full list of radios.
Hi,
I'm currently using 32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30.zip
Not certain if there's a problem with it regarding voice breakup etc. I was on an later one then went to 10.05.30 as it made a big difference to me on battery burn.
I'd suggest trying ones until you're happy as ROM + Radio combinations might have different user experiences. As yjey say YMMV.
I'm assuming, of course this might not be true as you didn't provide any details, that you're rooted on a custom ROM.
More info might help people, more knowledgeable than me, to reply.
Hi Everyone,
As an individual that has recently migrated from the Hero forums where radio flashes are recommended on a willy nilly basis to "solve" common problems (such as GPS or wifi issues), I have to ask, why is the attitude on the opposite side of the spectrum here? I'm open to technical explanations or anything else that may be relevant.
On the Hero side of things, I noticed that most bricks were products of user error. Considering that HTC released both a GSM and CDMA version of the device (and naming them exactly the same), many unsuspecting users would brick by flashing a CDMA radio on a GSM Hero. In other cases, impatient users would pull the battery during the flashing process -- all while unaware of the consequences.
So, I'd like to hear different opinions on this seemingly contentious issue (as I do see users recommending radio flashes in light of the warnings from developers to not touch the radio at all).
Thank you.
Anybody recommending flashing radios on a "willy nilly basis" are flippin' retards. Doesn't matter if your phone is a 32A (Hero/Magic), 32B (Dream/Magic), or a Vision.
The risks are as follows;
1) An incorrect or incomplete flash WILL render the hardware "bricked".
2) A radio that is incompatible with the hardware or the SPL *WILL* render the hardware "bricked".
Go into the DREAM forums and count just how many people bricked their phones due to something really stupid, like incompatibility with the SPL.... there is always a chance that a new radio will be incompatible with an old SPL. Especially since there are FOUR DIFFERENT SPLs available for Vision.... US/International shipping SPLs, US/International ENGINEERING SPLs. Note that the ENGINEERING SPLs carry older version numbers than the SHIPPING SPLs, so new radios will NOT be made to have compatibility with engineering SPLs in mind.
Is there someone out there that can help clarify the proper way to determine the correct radio for each Desire Z that is out there? This would be the biggest help to all. Education of the proper procedure and the correct radios to use would be more of an asset than having everone scare each other with tales of the bricked phone! If we had an accurate listing for each phone with the MD5 of the files involved there would not be nearly as many bricked phones. I have no doubts the Mods would sticky it for us also.
This is a site that we all come to to learn and I am sure we all enjoy experimenting with our phones and want to do it as safely as possible.
I currently use an Inspire 4g and it took me 7 radios before I found the one that worked to my satisfaction with the rom I am using in the area of the world that I live in. I found it, now I leave it alone.
Why am I putting my .02 in you may ask? I am waiting for a desire Z that I bought on ebay to arrive so I can experiment with it as a spare phone. I just sold 2 Captivates that were spares to get the DZ. I would love to have an accurate source of information that I can further my own education.
I do not have the knowledge to do this or I would but I am sure there are some people that are a lot more intellegent than I that can.
Sorry to be so long winded but I wanted to make sure I did not come across sounding pushy. Just a thought to help all concerned.
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Is there someone out there that can help clarify the proper way to determine the correct radio for each Desire Z that is out there? This would be the biggest help to all. Education of the proper procedure and the correct radios to use would be more of an asset than having everone scare each other with tales of the bricked phone! If we had an accurate listing for each phone with the MD5 of the files involved there would not be nearly as many bricked phones. I have no doubts the Mods would sticky it for us also.
This is a site that we all come to to learn and I am sure we all enjoy experimenting with our phones and want to do it as safely as possible.
I currently use an Inspire 4g and it took me 7 radios before I found the one that worked to my satisfaction with the rom I am using in the area of the world that I live in. I found it, now I leave it alone.
Why am I putting my .02 in you may ask? I am waiting for a desire Z that I bought on ebay to arrive so I can experiment with it as a spare phone. I just sold 2 Captivates that were spares to get the DZ. I would love to have an accurate source of information that I can further my own education.
I do not have the knowledge to do this or I would but I am sure there are some people that are a lot more intellegent than I that can.
Sorry to be so long winded but I wanted to make sure I did not come across sounding pushy. Just a thought to help all concerned.
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Every phone sold in regular mobile phone shops on this earth is provided with the correct radio for the region where it is sold. As in a closed box with EMEI numbers and all the stuff on it. If you live in the outback of Australia and buy (through Ebay) a phone originated for Estonia then you could be in for a surprise.
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Every phone sold in regular mobile phone shops on this earth is provided with the correct radio for the region where it is sold. As in a closed box with EMEI numbers and all the stuff on it. If you live in the outback of Australia and buy (through Ebay) a phone originated for Estonia then you could be in for a surprise.
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That is exactly my point.
There are a lot of people that for one reason or another WILL change their radio. Why not make it so all that do are educated on the proper way to do it and have a correct listing of the proper radio for each device with the coresponding MD5 to minimize the issues? Is this not part of what xda is all about? IMHO it will help all concerned.
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That is exactly my point.
There are a lot of people that for one reason or another WILL change their radio. Why not make it so all that do are educated on the proper way to do it and have a correct listing of the proper radio for each device with the coresponding MD5 to minimize the issues? Is this not part of what xda is all about? IMHO it will help all concerned.
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It is here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970809
Hey
Lets hear some user expirences. What has been the best radio for you?
PLEASE state where you are from and (this is optional) what mobile provider you have. This is VERY important to see which is better or/and worst for you.
State things like battery life, signal, 3G speeds, etc....
I want to point out (since there are very rude people in this thread) that what works for one person, may not work for you, even if you are in the same city on the same provider. There are a lot of factors that go into radio experiences.
That being said, DO NOT POST HERE SAYING THIS IS USELESS. If you dont agree with the thread, simply dont enter it and do not post. From now on, Im going to start reporting posts that just whine and ***** about the thread and say nothing on topic. If you have nothing helpful to say, dont say anything at all
If you want to check them out and test/switch them out, they are located at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970809&highlight=radio
Thanks and good luck!
Not sure what you're trying to find out, but bear in mind that even if someone has the same carrier as you, your own experience with a specific radio might be a lot different from theirs due to the complex factors involved (e.g. geography, type of signal you're receiving, etc).
There is no "best" radio other than the one you find works best for you.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
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Not sure what you're trying to find out, but bear in mind that even if someone has the same carrier as you, your own experience with a specific radio might be a lot different from theirs due to the complex factors involved (e.g. geography, type of signal you're receiving, etc).
There is no "best" radio other than the one you find works best for you.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
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The reason I asked for location: Thats why, because it is one of the factors that makes it different.
If you do not agree with this thread, just leave and dont comment Simple as that. If you want to share your expirence than go on right ahead!
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I'm using 26.10.04.03_M. Almost all the time, I'm within range of HSPA+ network in city center, but sometimes I'm in the area with extermely weak 2G signal only. None of the radios was able to maintain stable mobile data connection in such conditions. The only difference I see is that with current radio, my phone connects to my school's wireless network a bit faster than with shipped one. But that's all, battery life is also similar.
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Great post. Thanks
been using the 26.13.04.19 about a now, ive tried both with and without changing the lib files. either way i havent found too much difference in speeds and battery life. truthfully i feel i was getting the same speeds on the 26.02.01.15 radio and the battery life was a bit better. where i live i get great reception overall, rarely do i find myself without h (4g) or 3g. this is the case with both of these radios, ill check back as i continue playing with different radios.
great idea for a post by the way, over time the poll may give insight to the best radio for our phones be it just a generic overview (as the best will vary from user to user)
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If you do not agree with this thread, just leave and dont comment Simple as that.
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Umm, no sorry, it doesn't work that way. If you don't want people to disagree with you, then the internet is not for you.
Besides, its not like stevie was being snippy or anything. Just politely stated the simple fact that the correct radio is largely related to your specific location and carrier (and there are quite arguably, the most important variables). He's pointing out a valid flaw in the main point of this thread and poll. Better for him to mentioned it, then for people to think that some poll is going to magically steer them to the "best" radio, which it is not.
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Umm, no sorry, it doesn't work that way. If you don't want people to disagree with you, then the internet is not for you.
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I told him (and you) if you dont agree (and/or seem to understand) the purpose of the thread, then you have no reason of being here.
I clearly stated:
PLEASE state where you are from and (this is optional) what mobile provider you have. This is VERY important to see which is better or/and worst for you.
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And you yourself said:
the correct radio is largely related to your specific location and carrier (and there are quite arguably, the most important variables).
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So again: If you are not intrested in saying nothing, dont post. Simple as that.
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I told him (and you) if you dont agree (and/or seem to understand) the purpose of the thread, then you have no reason of being here.
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So only people that agree with you get to post on your threads? So who made you king of this forum?
Besides, steviewevie knows 100 times more than you ever will about smartphones, and very helpful to these forums. So it would be advisable not to smartmouth off at people like him, just because he doesn't agree with you.
Canada on Rogers : Vision_Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19 seems the best for me speedwise and connection wise and OK for battery life. For the battery life, the stock radio from Bell(where I got the phone originally) was the best, but I forgot what was it's number.
redpoint73: While you might find the poll useless to you, it can be useful to others. Your posts in this thread though are 100% useless.
@kinwolf This has been addressed who knows how many times. This poll cannot and will not offer credible information, and that's due to the fact that radio results vary between users, whether they're on the same provider/geographical area or not.
Regardless, I'm not "against" this thread, but I simply don't see how it is going to help anyone.
Just my 2 cents.
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So only people that agree with you get to post on your threads?
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Yes. You are just ruining a thread, not giving anything useful towards it.
redpoint73 said:
Besides, steviewevie knows 100 times more than you ever will about smartphones, and very helpful to these forums. So it would be advisable not to smartmouth off at people like him, just because he doesn't agree with you.
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Stop brown nosing. I understand exactly what you and he put. Again, if you dont agree with the thread, simple dont post.
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Canada on Rogers : Vision_Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19 seems the best for me speedwise and connection wise and OK for battery life. For the battery life, the stock radio from Bell(where I got the phone originally) was the best, but I forgot what was it's number.
redpoint73: While you might find the poll useless to you, it can be useful to others. Your posts in this thread though are 100% useless.
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Thanks.
crestofawave said:
@kinwolf This has been addressed who knows how many times. This poll cannot and will not offer credible information, and that's due to the fact that radio results vary between users, whether they're on the same provider/geographical area or not.
Regardless, I'm not "against" this thread, but I simply don't see how it is going to help anyone.
Just my 2 cents.
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The bold part is the most important; If you are not intrested in this thread or dont see how it is useful, simply do not post. It is very easy and simple; As a matter of fact, to post or view the thread, you have to click a button. To ignore it, you dont have to do anything!
Updated first post.
with Vision_RADIO_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26 i have some eco while calling
.30 tmo g2 running dz hboot in nor cal
P.s. responding to posts that dont 'agree' with you is just as useless as making a post to say 'thanks'
Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk
kinwolf said:
Canada on Rogers : Vision_Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19 seems the best for me speedwise and connection wise and OK for battery life. For the battery life, the stock radio from Bell(where I got the phone originally) was the best, but I forgot what was it's number.
redpoint73: While you might find the poll useless to you, it can be useful to others. Your posts in this thread though are 100% useless.
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This post is a good example why this whole thread is fundamentally flawed. Saying your location is "Canada" is not specific enough. You need to get to the city level, location within the city, probably even the same cell tower. Even then, reception would still vary due to line of sight and distance to that particular tower. so you'd practically have to live in the same house, for the same radio to mean the same thing. So anecdotal information on what radio is "best" is completely worthless.
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Stop brown nosing. I understand exactly what you and he put. Again, if you dont agree with the thread, simple dont post.
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Paying respect where its due is not brown nosing. But someone on high of a horse as you wouldn't know anything about respect.
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Hey
I want to point out (since there are very rude people in this thread) that what works for one person, may not work for you, even if you are in the same city on the same provider. There are a lot of factors that go into radio experiences.
That being said, DO NOT POST HERE SAYING THIS IS USELESS. If you dont agree with the thread, simply dont enter it and do not post. From now on, Im going to start reporting posts that just whine and ***** about the thread and say nothing on topic. If you have nothing helpful to say, dont say anything at all
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You are completely over-reacting and being overly defensive. Nobody has been particularly rude. If you think so, you clearly haven't spent much time on XDA! Nobody said this thread was useless, either. But people have given constructive criticism why this thread is fundamentally flawed, and given that criticism pretty politely. You have a pretty sad opinion on what constitutes "whining and *****ing". If you want to report me, go ahead. I doubt any of the mods would buy it.
The main reasons myself and others call out the technical reason that there is no "best" radio, is because there is already a lot of misconception about this topic. And it needs to be called out, so that other users take this thread for what it is. You've revised your OP quite a bit along these lines. But only AFTER the alleged "*****ing and moaning". So I guess the criticism was constructive and useful after all, wasn't it?
I'll have to agree with redpoint73 and also add with the fact that this issue also has to do with the hardware aspect of the phone. You surely don't expect radio's to be identical photocopies of each other. So two phones at the same location with same ROM's and RADIO's can handle signals differently. If you add the location and carrier factors on top of that, there's no best radio, location wise or carrier wise.
And besides, this phone has been out for about TWO years. If there was some solution for this it would have already been covered.