Hey guys, apologise in advance for what a few may consider as a 'noob' question :|
But, I'm struggling to find a radio that offers good signal strength. I can't really phone someone without my voice breaking up. So could someone suggest a good radio to flash? Thanks in advance
There isn't such thing as a best radio.
You should flash different radios and see the results for yourself.
The result depends on the rom you are using (if you are using a custom rom, it's probably best to use the radio recommended by the developer) , also of course the location you are at. See the AdamG thread in development section for a full list of radios.
Hi,
I'm currently using 32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30.zip
Not certain if there's a problem with it regarding voice breakup etc. I was on an later one then went to 10.05.30 as it made a big difference to me on battery burn.
I'd suggest trying ones until you're happy as ROM + Radio combinations might have different user experiences. As yjey say YMMV.
I'm assuming, of course this might not be true as you didn't provide any details, that you're rooted on a custom ROM.
More info might help people, more knowledgeable than me, to reply.
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First of all thanks to everyone who makes this all possible
I was scared of flashing my Orange M3100 at first but now i realise if you read & read as much as possible on here then you won't go far wrong.
anyhow After reading i decided to go with the Schaps 3.60 rom (thanks Schaps) and it works fine apart from a couple of issues but i cant say i have been blown away with the speed but stability seems better than WM5 but maybe i need a bigger pagepool. Although having to reinstall all of the stuff means i have not had a great chance to test it properly yet.
Now looking at another thread it seems that the TNT rom may be better (the bluetooth issue on the Schaps rom is a pain tbh)
My question is that as there are so many threads regarding WM6 roms all have good and bad in them , I was wondering what in users opinion is the best rom for stability and / or speed out there.
I suppose that this mainly requires opinions from users that have tried more than one rom but all are welcome.
Also i am confused ref the number of radio roms there are and it seems that each radio can have different results in different countrys.
I'm not sure what you can use for this but it would be a great idea to have a matrix of tested roms by users their test results from each country so we can get a good idea which one would perform the best and if possible maybe a comparison of WM6 roms and bugs etc.
So i am asking if it's possible to have 2 matrix one for radio performance in countrys and the other for the WM6 roms
I know that the roms matrix would be more difficult but the radio one would be very useful .
Sorry for a long winded post and if i can help collate the info then i am happy to do that.
Heres looking forward to the replies and thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317024
Funny , it was a good read made me chuckle when i realised what it was saying but maybe you may have missed my point
It's already my intention of trying the TNT rom after i have tested the current rom more but my point was that as we are all here to help each other i thought it would be a good idea to have a way of displaying the info in one place so it's easier for users to help them come to a desicion.
Of course searching the forums is always the way but there are so many threads it's easy to miss things.
It's ok to flash the radio 10 times to see which one is the best performer in which country but if it's already been done why not be able to see the results and then free up the time to test ones that have not been tested.
But still it was worth reading that post anyway hehe
MachmandP,
I'm with you on this one.
I'm looking to flash mine but there are so many with different updates and different problems but no spreadsheet showing the differences.
Its a random choice as to what you get.
Hi,
I'm still running the OEM WM6.1 which came with my TP2. I'm interested in installing an updated version (custom?), but is a bit confused at this stage. What's the difference between a ROM, Splash and Radio? Also, my TP2 has an IMEI number, does that mean it is a GSM device and not a CDMA device?
I'm really worried about bricking it...
Thanks in advance!
Also, what is Sense, Manilla, etc.?
RTFM :~D
When someone mentions their rom, they usually mean their operating system...for instance, a cooked rom, would be a modified WinMo 6.x
A radio rom (not to be confuzzled with an FM radio) is what picks up your telephone signals.
A splash is the opening screen when you first boot your device...on mine it would be T-mo then WinMo...this can be modified, as there are usually 3 initial screens, my first screen is custom made by me (there is a great tutorial on doing that), the second is an animated gif which currently is T-mo and I will eventually change, the third is WinMo which I will also eventually change once I find images I like enough. Most cooks use either their own splash or just generic ones from HTC/WinMo. The splash is just a matter of personal taste...some people don't care if it is their carrier branding/HTC/WinMo, others want it very personal. Changing the splash usually won't have any effect on your rom other than cosmetic...you do not see the splash unless you are booting the device.
I would very strongly urge you to read every and all stickies/wiki's posted in the Rhodium section of xda. Once you have read every post in each of the above mentioned stickies/wiki's, read them again...if you don't want a brick, then educating yourself is the best way. Believe it or not, many if not all of your questions can be answered with a little reading and some searching. There is in fact an excellent tutorial to read before flashing to a new rom...
Thank you!
So a Radio ROM flash is not really a good idea if there is nothing wrong? I'm getting signal problems, could it be the Radio ROM?
I'm reading as much as possible, I really do not want to get it wrong.
If you have to ask these questions then I'd advise you to leave the whole subject well alone. The chances of you getting in a mess are much increased by your basic lack of understanding and unless you're having SERIOUS problems with your phone as it is I don't think it's wise for you to get involved.
Analogy time :
Almost all of my computers at home run Linux and I wouldn't have it any other way. But there's no way I'd advise my mum to even think about it at the moment because she still doesn't like land lines with buttons.
If you are having SERIOUS problems with reception then first of all I'd try and see whether a different phone on the same network has problems too. It could well be the network coverage where you are. If it doesn't then read the ROM section CAREFULLY. All the information you need is there and there should be no need to ask questions if you fully understand what is written. If you don't the don't !
Also I would advise that this is posted in the wrong section and should be in the ROM section
dik23 said:
If you have to ask these questions then I'd advise you to leave the whole subject well alone. The chances of you getting in a mess are much increased by your basic lack of understanding and unless you're having SERIOUS problems with your phone as it is I don't think it's wise for you to get involved.
Analogy time :
I almost all of my computers at home run Linux and I wouldn't have it any other way. But there's no way I'd advise my mum to even think about it at the moment because she still doesn't like land lines with buttons.
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Thanks, I get what you are saying...but, I'm a quick learner and asked the questions because I'm researching it, so know everything before I try.
Check here for all you need to know.
I have been wondering, what is the difference between a "Radio" for the Desire against an "RIL".
All along, coming in and out of ROMs, the dev's suggestion would always be to "flash the suggested radio" - for what could be observed as the best battery life, as well as getting certain things to work (camera, etc).
And all of a sudden, suddenly I begin to see things involving "RIL"s. Case point: here, and here here where there is flashing the RIL along side the radio. (for better battery etc).
So I need to know (just for curiosity's sake, I want to learn more): whats the difference between a radio, something that I've always thought influences the phones hardware and signal (which also means battery consumption); and RILs? which based on Wikipedia (maybe not the most reliable source) says that;-
wikipedia said:
The Android Open Source Project provides a Radio Interface Layer (RIL) between Android telephony services (android.telephony) and the radio hardware.
It consists of a stack of two components: a RIL Daemon and a Vendor RIL. The RIL Daemon talks to the telephony services and dispatches "solicited commands" to the Vendor RIL. The Vendor RIL is specific to a particular radio implementation, and dispatches "unsolicited commands" up to the RIL Daemon.
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Or have I been oblivious to the fact that RILs have been packaged in the Radio zips/imgs all along? (for example: 5.11.05.27 radio with 5.11.05.27 RIL)
If so, what would happen if I flashed a different RIL version on top of a different radio version? (example: 5.11.05.27 radio with 5.11.05.14 RIL)?
Thanks for taking the time to read this wall of text!
Sources checked:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseband AND http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Interface_Layer
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Le bump.
Still curious. Would like a more professional opinion.
Probably the last time I'm going to bump this.
It is amazing how people reply to threads where the OP has done almost zero research, while in threads like these I make an effort to understand more about what I'm doing, instead of being a "follower" and get 0 replies.
A Radio stores the low level firmware for the desire's hardware (display, wifi, bluetooth, and everything else). Newer Radios contain newer firmware.
A RIL is like a driver pack that is optimized to work with a specific radio. So if you are running a certain Radio, say Radio XYZ, then for the best performance (ie wifi signal strength, battery life, raw performance), you would want the corresponding RIL (which would happen to be the RIL for XYZ.
Running a specific Radio's RIL is not necessary, but recommended.
A word on bumping - There are lots of knowledgable people here on XDA; perhaps it is unwise to 'diss' them simply because you haven't received a reply in under a day. Relax, someone will always answer your question, except (in the case of this thread) when the question being asked has been answered before, multiple times (i know this as i have answered it myself a couple of times).
However, a quick google wasen't too fruitful, so it is understandable that you posted this question.
Josh.
Yes, I'm sorry, I'm venting a bit, not dissing (hopefully). But it's been about 2 days lol (GMT?).
Thank you for not ripping out my jugular, Josh And thank you for your answer.
Anyway, if an RIL should be used as a facilitating piece of software/driver to complement Radios - like peanut butter & jelly - to further increase it's performance, how come not a lot (based on major custom ROM threads? I've only seen a couple) of emphasis is placed on using a complementing RIL with its Radio?
Also, Radios seem to be more readily available on xda (a plethora of versions) as compared to RILs (have only seen one).
Wouldn't hosting RILs on xda also drastically reduce users' complaints for "oh no, my battery life is horrible"? Or is the real situation actually more complicated than that?
Unless RILs are actually in together with the Radio .img? (which might render some user's advice of flashing a complementing RIL to its radio a bit redundant)
I remember seeing this trustworthy post from Lennyuk
ninjakettle said:
Could someone tell me if every radio has a corresponding RIL. I keep hearing about RIL, but never see them available to flash.
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Lennyuk said:
some say the RIL helps make a rom work better with the radio, however its a "newish" thing to do.
I have had nothing but issues when flashign RIL's so I now am just back to flashing radios like I always used to.
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And also this from Daelyn, in response to what is RIL
Daelyn said:
Update contains firmware, libraries and drivers matching the Radio version. Can cause all kinds of problems and you're on your own. Nobody knows until they try.
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So in my opinion don't mess with RILs.
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So in my opinion don't mess with RILs.
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Duly noted.
Now, this will be something interesting to poke around with when I have the time...
Be careful, as you probably understood, there is a significant chance to kill your phone by playing with the radio and RIL.
On the other hand, RIL flashes can be easily be reversed by restoring to a nandroid backup. Thus, doesn't this make flashing RILS less risky than flashing radios? Why the dire warning, then?
It's true that flashing a RIL is less risky than flashing a radio.
But as pointed above flashing a RIL does not benefit you much, on the contrary it is likely to cause issues. I think there is no clear motive for doing it.
I am not trying to scare people, just want to make them aware of the consequences it could have, so they don't plunge into the more serious stuff without no knowledge and understanding.
Thanks 3722 and aidfarh
So true.
Well put haha
eden2812 said:
Probably the last time I'm going to bump this.
It is amazing how people reply to threads where the OP has done almost zero research, while in threads like these I make an effort to understand more about what I'm doing, instead of being a "follower" and get 0 replies.
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Nice thread!
Thanks to the op for raising the question and for the answers ofcourse
hey guys i got a desire hd with CM 7.0.2 on it and i flashed it with Radio_12.48.60.23U_26.08.04.07_M3.
What im curious about is what u guys suggest for radio ?
I love this question. Nearly as much as I love "What ROM?".
I love it because it shows a dedication to following basic rules.
I love it because I love having to say the same thing over and over.
I love it because one thing this forum needs is ANOTHER thread titled "what radio / ROM". Just can't have too many.
The choice is YOURS and specific to YOUR phone, ROM and kernel. What radio works for one person will fail completely for another.
You just have to try them out.
There is a dedicated thread to radios in the development forum. Please have a look.
My choice is as per my sig but the default cm7 radio was good too.
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The choice is YOURS and specific to YOUR phone, ROM and kernel. What radio works for one person will fail completely for another.
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I dont agree with that cuz dont everybody got the same hardware ?
if its like that there should be a best kernel for the device.
ymcc said:
I dont agree with that cuz dont everybody got the same hardware ?
if its like that there should be a best kernel for the device.
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Hardware specs might be the same, but there is never any peice of hardware that is identical.
I have taken the radio from the Revolution HD Thread, which is recommend for version 4 ß4
ymcc said:
I dont agree with that cuz dont everybody got the same hardware ?
if its like that there should be a best kernel for the device.
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Doesn't matter if you agree or not, doesn't stop it from being true.
Besides, the hardware varies slightly especially the CPU for example. Some can handle faster clock speeds than others. Some can accept kernels that other's can't.
The Radio controls, amongst other things, the network reception 2g / 3g / Edge / HSDPA etc. and that will vary from one network provider to another. And as such, a radio that works well for T-Mobile in the UK might not work at all for Vodafone in the UK or T-Mobile in another country.
So no, it doesn't matter that the phones are the same when it comes to choosing the "right" radio.
To make matters worse, some radios have much much better reception but worse battery so AGAIN it's a PERSONAL choice.
Disagree all you like, those are the facts.
Hey Guys
Could you please tell me which is the latest Radio Rom for my Desire HD?I´m searching for this for almost 1 hour but couldn´t find anything clear.
Thank you!
12.65.60.29_26.14.04.28_M is a popular radio, best is to try it and see if what works for you.
Best to have a look here and decide for yourself.
Personally i use 12.62.60.27U_26.13.04.19_M and have pretty good signal/3G and have had no issues on any of the ROM's i have used / tested, I have only tried AOSP / Cyanognen ROM's
I read something on radios and if I was you, I'd probably stick with what you have until you fully understand them. Apparently the difference they can make (for the better) is not that great... But can potentially have a negative effect. I haven't flashed an alternative one through so I could be wrong! The problem is that you have consider location AND the hardware in your phone. From what I gather the latter is not easy to determine because two desire hds from the same country/ phone company/ year can contain slightly different hardware that can affect which radio to use. If you know how to check how well a radio is performing, however, feel free to experiment but there isn't a 'best' radio that somebody can recommend here. You'll have to work it out for yourself (and I'm sorry to say I don't know the best way of properly checking!)
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