Tomorrow I am planning on flashing my HTC Evo to MetroPCS.
I have a few questions, as this is my first android phone.
1. What exactly is happening when I "flash" the Evo to MetroPCS?
2. My Evo is running 2.2 right now, when "flashed" to MetroPCS would I be able to update from 2.2 to 2.3 (Gingerbread) later?
3. What exactly are roms and rooting? When I have my phone flashed is someone "rooting" my phone?
Thank you in advanced
P.S. I do understand when I flash my phone to Metro I will lose 3g and 4g functionality.
Hi there,
I'm a bit of a newbie myself, so to try to answer your questions without being wrong...
1. When you "flash" your phone, it refers to replacing the ROM on your phone. The ROM on your phone is basically a copy of your phone's OS (in this case, Android). Don't be too confused over the ROM part, as even though ROM stands for "Read Only Memory," you can still make changes to it (weird eh?)
2. That will depend on if someone actually makes a MetroPCS 2.3 update. The thing with flashing is that you can put on any ROM you want, by just overwriting the old one. It just requires someone to make the ROM. Most developers package updates for their ROMs so you can sometimes just put on the newer ROM, flash that and be up and running quickly.
3. As I mentioned before, ROMs are basically a copy of your phone's OS that someone might have customized. (Feel free to correct me guys,) In the Android OS way, you flash your ROM onto your phone. An unmodified copy is maintained on the phone, while another copy is made where your phone actually modifies it and changes it as you use the phone and store data. If something goes bad, no problem. Phone takes a copy of the unmodified ROM and copies that over the "put OS to be used here" chunk of your memory.
TL;DR? ROMs are the software on your phone, but can be modified.
3a. Rooting is different then flashing though, although it's commonly associated with each other. Rooting is when you modify your Android OS so you can have write access to other parts of the OS. All those apps that were stuck on your phone and you never liked? With rooting, you can pull those right out. Rooting allows you to pretty much do more things with your phone that you couldn't do before. It doesn't sound like too much, having write access to everything. But there are plenty of things you can do to your phone with write access. One of those things actually is flashing other ROMs to your phone. You actually need to root your phone as it is, so you can install what's called a custom recovery and a developer bootloader. Anyways, I'm not going to go through too much. Just check out the Evo Development area and there will be plenty to read through.
Hopefully I've explained enough. My apologies for the long post, I have a tendency to be through Let me know if you require clarification. Cheers!
The Local Moron said:
Hi there,
I'm a bit of a newbie myself, so to try to answer your questions without being wrong...
1. When you "flash" your phone, it refers to replacing the ROM on your phone. The ROM on your phone is basically a copy of your phone's OS (in this case, Android). Don't be too confused over the ROM part, as even though ROM stands for "Read Only Memory," you can still make changes to it (weird eh?)
2. That will depend on if someone actually makes a MetroPCS 2.3 update. The thing with flashing is that you can put on any ROM you want, by just overwriting the old one. It just requires someone to make the ROM. Most developers package updates for their ROMs so you can sometimes just put on the newer ROM, flash that and be up and running quickly.
3. As I mentioned before, ROMs are basically a copy of your phone's OS that someone might have customized. (Feel free to correct me guys,) In the Android OS way, you flash your ROM onto your phone. An unmodified copy is maintained on the phone, while another copy is made where your phone actually modifies it and changes it as you use the phone and store data. If something goes bad, no problem. Phone takes a copy of the unmodified ROM and copies that over the "put OS to be used here" chunk of your memory.
TL;DR? ROMs are the software on your phone, but can be modified.
3a. Rooting is different then flashing though, although it's commonly associated with each other. Rooting is when you modify your Android OS so you can have write access to other parts of the OS. All those apps that were stuck on your phone and you never liked? With rooting, you can pull those right out. Rooting allows you to pretty much do more things with your phone that you couldn't do before. It doesn't sound like too much, having write access to everything. But there are plenty of things you can do to your phone with write access. One of those things actually is flashing other ROMs to your phone. You actually need to root your phone as it is, so you can install what's called a custom recovery and a developer bootloader. Anyways, I'm not going to go through too much. Just check out the Evo Development area and there will be plenty to read through.
Hopefully I've explained enough. My apologies for the long post, I have a tendency to be through Let me know if you require clarification. Cheers!
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Thank you so much for replying!
Although one more question, when I have my phone "flashed" to install another ROM; do I require root access?
P.S. Rooting sounds like a great idea, I wanted to get rid of all those useless sprint apps.
EDIT: Just realized you did answer my question in 3a, so when someone is flashing my phone to MetroPCS tomorrow that means someone is rooting my phone and installing a ROM that is compatible with MetroPCS? Is my phone more than likely going to remain rooted?
Hmm, I didn't know MetroPCS flashes the Evo now...yay!
Anyhow, I'm going to guess MetroPCS will have their own ROM or will install a custom ROM from somewhere. The key thing really is to have them insert your ESN into their database. Afterwards, you can flash whatever you want on it. I remember it used to be a problem too, for people wanting to switch to MetroPCS. Developers had the software and everything, but the only way to activate it is to convince a service rep to add your ESN into the MetroPCS device database. Now that it's official, it's much easier.
I'm mentioning all of this because if they are officially flashing Evos now, I would think they would have a special in-house ROM that has already been tested and vetted. The issue here is that it's probably a locked (non-rooted) ROM. From the point of view of a service carrier, distributing rooted ROMs might cause higher complaints from users who screw up or from reliability issues. Anyways, good luck getting it flash. Let me know how it goes...
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Hmm, I didn't know MetroPCS flashes the Evo now...yay!
Anyhow, I'm going to guess MetroPCS will have their own ROM or will install a custom ROM from somewhere. The key thing really is to have them insert your ESN into their database. Afterwards, you can flash whatever you want on it. I remember it used to be a problem too, for people wanting to switch to MetroPCS. Developers had the software and everything, but the only way to activate it is to convince a service rep to add your ESN into the MetroPCS device database. Now that it's official, it's much easier.
I'm mentioning all of this because if they are officially flashing Evos now, I would think they would have a special in-house ROM that has already been tested and vetted. The issue here is that it's probably a locked (non-rooted) ROM. From the point of view of a service carrier, distributing rooted ROMs might cause higher complaints from users who screw up or from reliability issues. Anyways, good luck getting it flash. Let me know how it goes...
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I'd imagine that to activate a phone with MetroPCS they'd need your ESN, I'll be asking the REP tomorrow. Chances are they are not using an In-House rom, because simply flashing the phone through Houdini gives the phone Talk and Text. But for a little more money under the table they add everything else, not that I can't do it myself. But I'd prefer someone who's done it before do it before I do. Either way I'll be asking quite a bit of questions tomorrow to the REP and I will let you know how it goes.
I have to give a little clarity here.
1.) "Flashing" your phone is not replacing a rom. Or anything to do with a rom. Flashing your phone is changing the service your phone uses to make phone calls. e.g. Flashing to metro. When you flash your phone you are essentially telling your phone to use MetroPCS's towers instead of sprints.
2.) If you flash your phone you DO lose the data functionality. BUT there is a solution. If you take your flashed evo to the right person they can unlock the data on the phone and it will work just like it would on Sprint. (craigslist is full of ppl who can do it for a price.)
3.) "Rooting". Rooting your phone makes you the "SuperUser". Basically its like "Jailbreaking" if you know what that means. Either way it makes you like an administrator for your phone. Rooting gives you full control over the phones inner workings. Therefore you can install what we call "ROMS". On the flip side this means you can easily BRICK your phone if your not careful. Rooting is only for those who know what they are doing. So do your homework before attempting.
4.) As far as if the phone can receive updates like Gingerbread after you flash it? I don't know. I would like to find out myself. The question is hard to call for me because you still have access to the android marketplace after you flash it. But you are not on Sprints network any longer. So hopefully someone here can answer that for us both.
Glad to be of assistance.
Tony.
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Hi. I recently rooted and installed a WWE "sensefroyo" rom off the internet.
And I just figured out (since a couple of hours) that my speaker isn't working AT ALL.
Before, it worked when you left the battery out for a minute and put it back in. it worked flawlessly. But after a while it'd go back to being messed up.
Now its screwed. and wont work at all.
I didnt realise I needed to get it replaced till now.
I really need the Telus Desire rom asap. As I just emailed them about it, and most likely need to get it replaced/fixed. And I dont know much about Telus, if you lose warranty privileges if you root/custom ROM it.
Unless I can tell them that I installed the official 2.2 ROM (dont know if it needs root) off those .exe files (the RUU_Signed) kind. (They didn't work for me. So i rooted using recovery)
Or if you can link me to one where I can find a rom that does not require rooting, and has an .exe file and a copy of a .zip kind.
I wrote a lot here, and its all over the place.
Right now. Either link me to the Telus Desire rom. or one where I can flash without rooting.
I am going to unroot as soon as I get one of those two things^
Thanks. I just hope you guys know what kind of freaky situation I am in.
Where did you buy it, and how long has it been since you bought it?
Depending on those factors, you may not need to worry too much.
I had it activated on a 3 year contract almost a week ago(Not even a week)
What do you mean by I will not have to worry about these things?
Is Telus a carrier that is more on the 'chill' side of things?
EDIT - So I just got off the phone with Telus.
The representative told me if I installed something that Telus did not release. That basically voids my warranty. So now I really need to get back exactly as it was before.
Can someone please help me out here?
I need to go to a dealer soon to get it replaced.
I am pretty sure I can unroot it myself with no issues I guess.
I really need something that matches with the same stats as a Telus Desire.
You should probably try starting over.
If your rom is still rooted, get ROM Manager and install clockworkmod.
You can install something stable like opendesire and wipe data/cache.
You should be fine, unless you really have some unusual desire to be on Telus' rom.
I was wondering if someone can post what their 'software version' looked like on a Telus Desire
Maybe then I can try to get the same radio and 'stats' as a factory device.
I got on a rep and they also said that the worst thing that can happen is your device will be sent back.
They even said that some people wont even notice the software change and stuff.
If at the end I cant get a Telus rom. I would LOVE a link to an Eclair build rom. Possibly one that is an official.
Didn't you nandroid backup prior to moving to froyo?
From what I understand you can restore from that.
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Didn't you nandroid backup prior to moving to froyo?
From what I understand you can restore from that.
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I actually have NO idea what nandroid was.
I just followed instructions off a tut on xda.
So I cant seem to find factory eclair roms.
Now I read around a little bit more.
And just feel completely stupid.
Please. Someone. A factory Eclair build.
start by getting clockworkmod installed.
Without knowing what state your device is in, it's tough to help you.
but with clockworkmod recovery going, you will easily be able to switch between roms.
Honestly you couldn't have bought it that long ago, just return it to the store, the guys don't even know how to check.
routehero said:
start by getting clockworkmod installed.
Without knowing what state your device is in, it's tough to help you.
but with clockworkmod recovery going, you will easily be able to switch between roms.
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I already do have it. Thats how i installed all the different roms (Leedroid, Nightly Cyanogen, and then eventually the official one)
Hold on for a couple of minutes as I can provide you with some of my hboot and so recovery options. (Using the WiFi hot spot at the moment)
Other then that. Here is my 'software version'
android 2.2 with the latest 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20 radio
Kernel is
2.6.32.15-g1fc4045
[email protected]#1
Build #
2.06.832.1 CL207528 test-keys
Software Number
2.06.832.1
with the obvious webkit 3.1
hboot info?
BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.83.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.09.00.20
Jun 10 2010, 12:12:05
Used ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.0.1
Yes it is an SLCD display?
you needs more? - tell me what exactly you need and how I can get it
download opendesire 3.5.0, wipe data/cache, flash that.
after you set it up, let us know what's not working.
If I were you, I would go back to the store you got it from, with your recipt and contract. You have 14 days to return any phone. That's how I got my desire, I returned a Hero. Make sure you take everythign back you got, charger, phones, etc. Tell them waiting to get a band new phone fixed is a waste of your time, and you want to exchange the phone right away.
So long as you have a sense UI ROM running, I doubt they will know you have rooted the phone. The guys where I bought the phone didn't know too much about it.
If you managed to get a tech support guy to tell you they might not notice, you clearly have the power to get what you need from people. Be forceful if you have to, within 2 weeks they should just give you a brand new phone. After 14days though, your gonna have to live with no speaker, hope it's actually a software issue(doesn't sould like it if even stock it was failing), or send it back and hope they don't miss it. To the best of my knowledge there are no Telus official roms to be found, but there are many official roms from other places. As long as your background doesn't say VodaPhone or something, how will they know?
ajanu said:
If I were you, I would go back to the store you got it from, with your recipt and contract. You have 14 days to return any phone. That's how I got my desire, I returned a Hero. Make sure you take everythign back you got, charger, phones, etc. Tell them waiting to get a band new phone fixed is a waste of your time, and you want to exchange the phone right away.
So long as you have a sense UI ROM running, I doubt they will know you have rooted the phone. The guys where I bought the phone didn't know too much about it.
If you managed to get a tech support guy to tell you they might not notice, you clearly have the power to get what you need from people. Be forceful if you have to, within 2 weeks they should just give you a brand new phone. After 14days though, your gonna have to live with no speaker, hope it's actually a software issue(doesn't sould like it if even stock it was failing), or send it back and hope they don't miss it. To the best of my knowledge there are no Telus official roms to be found, but there are many official roms from other places. As long as your background doesn't say VodaPhone or something, how will they know?
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Telus has 30 day DOA over the counter exchange.
YAh but he made the mistake of telling them e rooted and flashed it (why on earth would any one do that i dont know)
So they have flagged that IMEI in the system as void.
Your best bet is to try doing a wipe and flashing back to the telus 2.1 rom and radio, you will, the recovery is gone though as we dont hava ruu.
Actually. I didnt. I went straight for asking the question off a residential phone that uses Rogers. So they don't know who I was or any account related things.
The first time I called though, I told them that the speaker wasnt working and I wanted it replaced.
So no my IMEI is not flagged, guarantee you that part.
I will try using the OpenDesire 3.5.0 with "clear/wire cache"
This might work for you and i think its your best bet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6710085&postcount=3
Go to the above thread, follow the instructions and make a gold card.
then go to the following thread, download official froyo rom and flash it. It looks almost the same as the original rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753672
I cant seem to do the goldcard thing.
I am using the official 2.2 at the moment.
It does look the same as 2.1 Telus itself.
What does it mean over here?
# Ensure you have unzipped the SDK, then open a command prompt to the extract location. Change to the 'tools directory.
# Type
Code:
adb shell cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc1/mmc1:*/cid
and press enter. You should get a very long number which looks like this: 532600bd227d9c0347329407514d5402.
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I cant seem to do the "command prompt" location thing.
Someone wanna help me? maybe with some screenshots?
I am done making the GoldCard. What does it even do though?
It has something to do with switching to the factory rom..
Now. I have issues with the RUU. It does not wait long enough for the phone to be in bootloader.
EDIT - Is there any way I can "remove" or uninstall the Superuser Permissions app and the "Wi-Fi Hotspot" app? To make it appear even more legitimate.
da pavinator said:
I am done making the GoldCard. What does it even do though?
It has something to do with switching to the factory rom..
Now. I have issues with the RUU. It does not wait long enough for the phone to be in bootloader.
EDIT - Is there any way I can "remove" or uninstall the Superuser Permissions app and the "Wi-Fi Hotspot" app? To make it appear even more legitimate.
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I packed up the telus stock rom from a nandroid dump you can try it.
http://www.mightyrom.com/mrx/MRX/Bravo/Stock/Telus_HTC_Desire_Stock_2.1_NoRADIO.zip
Hey I needed to unroot my phone too and I tried a bunch of things then I was following procedures to root my phone again because I tried installing the Rom that was posted by the person that posted before me and I messed up and got lots of errors when I got the phone started and had to force close a bunch of things constantly. Anyways I followed step 3 of the tut for rooting TELUS desires on this forum site and when it restarted I got my stock TELUS Rom back unrooted. This is the step I followed
3. Go to HBOOT, this is done by shutting down your phone and powering on the device while holding the Power button down and pushing Volume down at the same time, once HBOOT is loaded do a wipe (Clear Storage). You can navigate the menus by using the volume rocker and the Power button to select your option.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7818278 is the link to the tut I was following.
I dunno how it worked but it did, I got my stock TELUS Rom by doing this. Maybe I got lucky and maybe you might too. Oh and just for your info, the tut I used to root my desire initially was this one forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=750888. Good luck
So, a Huge thanks to all those who worked on the method to get 2.2 rooted. I followed the directions and I am here, rooted. I used the Amon_Ra for my recovery back to 2.2. Now, this might be a stupid question, but What now? My phone looks the same, and I still can't remove sprint stuff. What are the next steps, I know i can install a custom "higher speed ROM", but can i just work from where i am now? I have the Superuser icon, but when i open it, i get "no apps in list" ? what do i need to install to start taking advantage of all that rooting has to offer?
Thanks for your replies!!
monetmonet said:
So, a Huge thanks to all those who worked on the method to get 2.2 rooted. I followed the directions and I am here, rooted. I used the Amon_Ra for my recovery back to 2.2. Now, this might be a stupid question, but What now? My phone looks the same, and I still can't remove sprint stuff. What are the next steps, I know i can install a custom "higher speed ROM", but can i just work from where i am now? how do i get that little superadministrator icon on my phone? what do i need to install to start taking advantage of all that rooting has to offer?
Thanks for your replies!!
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Choose a new fancy ROM, download it to your SD card and use Amon to flash it. Easy as pie.
They are many great ROMs from many great developers here. Everyone has their preferences, mine is Fresh. I've never been dissapointed.
Agreed.....I can tell a big difference in speed and battery life but now what? I also can't delete any of the Sprint bloatware and I am on Baked Sense 1.6.
I don't understand: Why would you root your phone if you don't even know what it does? Not trying to be a ****; I'm just saying.
Firstly, if you rooted, all you did was revert your phone back to 2.1 so you no longer have Froyo. (edit: nevermind.....I see you want back to 2.2; I'm guessing you flashed a 2.2 stock rooted rom to your phone). The superuser app is empty because it hasn't given superuser permission to any apps that require it. If you want to see your superuser app in action, download ShootMe or screenshot from the market, and you will see the app asks for superuser permission.
I rooted my phone because I thought it was ridiculous to pay Sprint $30 a month to use the wireless tether option that was built into the Evo by HTC and which I already paid for when I purchased the phone. Now I use my root privileges to do a lot more, but my point is that I had a reason to root my phone to begin with. Download wireless tether and try it.
If you want to uninstall apps, download Titanium Back up (that's what I use anyway) and go to town removing stuff. I am not sure if the free version removes apps or not because I got the paid one from the beginning, but now that you are rooted, it is well worth the price for the premium license. You can use this app to move stuff to your SD card and free up your phone's internal memory, too. You can also back up all your apps and system data which is handy when you flash from one rom to another and you have to do a full wipe of your phone.
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Agreed.....I can tell a big difference in speed and battery life but now what? I also can't delete any of the Sprint bloatware and I am on Baked Sense 1.6.
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Some of the ROMs have all that stuff removed for you, such as Fresh.
First thing to do: Head over to the developer forum and flash Netarchy's kernel, which will uncap your FPS. Do it ASAP, DO IT NAO!!!!1!!1!1!eleven. Then come back here and tell us how amazing it is.
thanks for the input
Thanks for all the replies! Rugedraw - i especially appreciate your indepth answer despite the fact that you are clearly somewhat annoyed by the question.
Here's the thing. The android revolution is ongoing and picking up steam. and i could talk about that all day long. Opensource, kick blackberry in the berry, and send apple back to where it was after its huge popularity boom in the 90s - struggling to overcome its fatal closed system flaw. Beyond that, I bought my Evo for 2 reasons. My 16 month son threw my blackberry into the toilet (nice work - i now appreciate it), and my tech guy at work has been raving about his rooted Droid x2. as of 10 days ago it didn't seem possible to root the 2.2 froyo, but he told be to be on the lookout. I figured this is a little like an arms race and that the sooner i rooted my phone when the method was avail. the better. (tech guy is in italy with his fiancee right now, or i would be asking him all these questions)
Soooo, it seemed to me, that in the spirit of owning an opensource device and joining the android revolution, that i should root my phone and unlock all the magic.
I'm no computer programming whiz, i dont write code, and i learned all of the terminology on this board in the last 2 days. So lost, but learning fast.
I did not root my phone for no reason. I clearly understand the utility of having superuser status (besides, most guys are wired to want that kinda thing regardless) - deleting annoying sprint apps that chew power, "re-tuning" the device to run more efficiently, and of course, free wifi tethering.
But, after completing the most excellent root method described in this forum, i found myself staring at a rooted 2.2 and wondering what the next step was. There are NO google results for "i've rooted my evo 4, now what?" so thats why i started this thread, figuring that I was not the only one in my situation
THAT enormously long winded explanation complete, I would love to aggregate the appropriate options in this thread. Method to wipe, list of Flash Roms for a rooted 2.2 EVO.
Again, thanks for all the replies,
btw what does "uncap your FPS" mean?
If you did unrevoked then I would flash the latest Amon-RA recovery image. No offense to clockworkmod, amon is just my preference.
Poke around the recovery console and learn how it works.
NAND FIRST!! haha, develop that habit before you flash anything (roms, kernels, etc.), just in case
-Flash a rom that suits your needs. Read their OP's and threads to learn what they are about and what the people that use them think. I would suggest you just flash the stock rooted 2.2, play with it for a week or two to see how root works and explore what you can do with it. Also look into backup methods so you are familiar with how to preserve your stuff when you flash a different rom.
FPS = frames per second. There are kernels that will lift the 30fps cap.
Read about kernels and how to take advantage of them.
I know I've been pretty general, just pick a trail and start walking, when you have questions ask em
I like your logic of titling the thread exactly what you searched for, usin yer brains to make this thread more beneficial to the next guy (imagine a thumbs-up smiley here)
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First thing to do: Head over to the developer forum and flash Netarchy's kernel, which will uncap your FPS. Do it ASAP, DO IT NAO!!!!1!!1!1!eleven. Then come back here and tell us how amazing it is.
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It is highly recommended that you do what he says! You'll see a major improvement in lots of areas. In case you're curious here is my setup: STOCK 2.2 w/ Netarchy kernal. I chose the stock 2.2 so that I may do with it what I like. It's very fast and very stable.
monetmonet said:
So, a Huge thanks to all those who worked on the method to get 2.2 rooted. I followed the directions and I am here, rooted. I used the Amon_Ra for my recovery back to 2.2. Now, this might be a stupid question, but What now? My phone looks the same, and I still can't remove sprint stuff. What are the next steps, I know i can install a custom "higher speed ROM", but can i just work from where i am now? I have the Superuser icon, but when i open it, i get "no apps in list" ? what do i need to install to start taking advantage of all that rooting has to offer?
Thanks for your replies!!
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You can remove Sprint stuff, just have to spend some time and learn to use ADB. Rooting an EVO is not the same as rooting an iPhone, you can pretty much do everything you can from rooting an iPhone without even rooting Android so the difference is not that great.
Most of what you gain from rooting Android is being able to do things the carrier doesn't wan't you to do such as install free wifi tethering, remove their apps etc... You can also install others roms where they have already done this stuff for you but from what I have seen on the EVO and 2.2 battery life suffers greatly on pretty much any rom other than stock rooted so there is a lot to be gained from learning adb and just working with the stock rooted rom to remove the apps you wan't to.
I'm in the same boat. I got my new EVO on Tuesday, it was rooted an hour later. Why? Because that's how we do things! First thing for me it was important to have tethering. Work blocks damned near everything. As I learn more about the Android system I'll get more use out of root.
I was carefully paying attention to the thread and particularly bluehaze's answer. I'd like to learn more about using adb to remove sprint crap. That amazon app is always restarting itself. If there an ADB for newbs guide around here anywhere? I looked but didn't see.
There are a few things that I use which make root a necessity.
- custom ROMs provide a setup more tailored to what you are personally looking for
- using wireless tethering without being artificially limited to Sprint's commercial offering
- backups! I can boot into recovery and make a backup image of my setup at any point. That way no matter what settings I change or what ROMs I test out, I can always go right back to my stable daily driver in 5 minutes if needed.
- custom recovery and superuser allow you to install things, uninstall things, theme things, etc. Nothing worse than not being able to change something on my own device
- speed, battery, etc. via tweaked kernels. I'm using Baked Snack's ROM and kernel now and it's way faster and nicer on battery than stock
nOObs need love too
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...There are NO google results for "i've rooted my evo 4, now what?" ...
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Now there is...thanks. My Google search on those words led me here. I've been lurking on these boards since I got my EVO a while ago, but I haven't had the guts to root until right now, 2nite, it's happening... I'll be back soon with my *new and improved* phone.
Whoo! Good Luck!
Indeed, you'll be a flash addict in no time. You may want to check out the link in my sig - it points to my post in a more recent version of this thread, with more current and relevant information throughout. Good luck!
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I searched the exact same thing in google 'cept im on an x10, this thread looks like a good place to start
New guy...
Same here, I just rooted my Evo today and everything seems to be working great. But I'm clueless on how to put a rom on to my sd card so I can flash it to my evo.
Can any one send me a link to a basic how to..
Thanks
Rich
Well, first things first...
I am a noob, and this is the first time I am using an android phone (moving from the Nokia N97 and Nokia C6). So please be patient (and tolerant).
The dealer I got this phone from wasnt sure if it was soft-unlocked (the ones which get locked if you update OS) or otherwise, and he most certainly didnt have (or give me) the unlock code.
The phone has been a delight for the past 3 months, and I love the the stunned look on the faces of everyone around, when I slide open the keyboard!! However, after doing a google search I discovered that there's an ICS update for the i927. And that has resulted in me googling to find out the likelyhood that my phone will re-lock to ATT.
To my surprise (or inability), I couldnt find a definite answer/guide as to what users of unlocked i927s, who do not have the unlock code, should do exactly, to "safely" update to ICS.
I have downloaded most of the tools (Odin 3.07, EFS 2.0.7 and the "I927UCLJ3_I927ATTLJ3_ATT" stock from samfirmware). And I had KIES and the drivers installed from day 1.
But the problem is that I dont have a road-map. Or a troubleshooting guide, in case I encounter unanticipated errors/crashes.
The other thing is uncertainty about the phone getting "re-locked". Some mobile repair guys say I should flash the update with my eyes closed (it wont re-lock to ATT, they say). However, the other side disuades me, and I have yet to find an across-the-counter shop which will give me an unlock code.
Of course, I think I can live without the update if I have to. But, I was hoping for a bit of help (or a step-by-step or link-by-link guide).
The other thing I want to know is whether flashing the ATT ICS update can also corrupt my IMEI details (and hence the need to back up with EFS)??
Finally, I would like mention that my phone is an un-rooted i927 (ATT) running Android 2.3.6.
Any help would be really be appreciated.
Not sure what to make of this..
The lack of replies has made me (even more) doubtful if a noob like me would be able to update my i927. I hope someone can tell me if my i927 is "updateable" or is the ICS update preferably for only the "authentic" i927 handsets??
sachnadkarni said:
The lack of replies has made me (even more) doubtful if a noob like me would be able to update my i927. I hope someone can tell me if my i927 is "updateable" or is the ICS update preferably for only the "authentic" i927 handsets??
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If you have a SIM card from something not using the AT&T network, put it in. That will tell you if your phone is SIM unlocked or not (I think that's what you're asking).
In theory, applying the ICS update may re-lock your phone; it depends on how it was SIM unlocked in the first place.
My recommendation is:
1) Update to ICS (it's worlds better than GB)
2) If the phone re-locks to AT&T, then just buy and unlock code for a few dollars
phone's current status
scotte9999 said:
If you have a SIM card from something not using the AT&T network, put it in. That will tell you if your phone is SIM unlocked or not (I think that's what you're asking).
In theory, applying the ICS update may re-lock your phone; it depends on how it was SIM unlocked in the first place.
My recommendation is:
1) Update to ICS (it's worlds better than GB)
2) If the phone re-locks to AT&T, then just buy and unlock code for a few dollars
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I am already using a local SIM card on the phone (Airtel) since the day I bought the phone. All the features are working on the phone, except the WiFi tethering, which is also the biggest reason for my doubts (and reluctance) about flashing the ICS update. The WiFi tethering feature does not recognise my Airtel data connection (2G), making me to believe some features are still AT&T specific (like the ringtones feature).
The other thing is, re-locking is a significant concern, but its not the biggest concern (for me). Since I first visited the "Captivate Glide" section on this forum, I have read about problems like the IMEI number (or other important phone data) corrupting, bricking my phone (which I know no one in the world can guarantee against), or the phone getting stuck in the start up mode (read it somewhere here, although I dont know if it was an OS update related failure).
Anyways, I hope that clears up the current status of my i927, and thanks for replying.
A bit more help please...
I know I asking basic noob questions about updating, but I was hoping for a bit more guidance actually...
Like what do I do with the I927UCLJ3_I927ATTLJ3_ATT.zip file?? Do I unzip it, or just copy it the phone memory and reboot into Odin??
The other thing is I started the EFS app on my PC and connected my phone to it, but the IMEI and other numbers are just all 0s. So, I am thinking, I did something wrong there as well...
I am well aware that no one in the world can guarantee against bricking a phone. I just want to have a proper guide on how to update, so that I have the best odds possible
sachnadkarni said:
I know I asking basic noob questions about updating, but I was hoping for a bit more guidance actually...
1. Like what do I do with the I927UCLJ3_I927ATTLJ3_ATT.zip file?? Do I unzip it, or just copy it the phone memory and reboot into Odin??
2. The other thing is I started the EFS app on my PC and connected my phone to it, but the IMEI and other numbers are just all 0s. So, I am thinking, I did something wrong there as well...
I am well aware that no one in the world can guarantee against bricking a phone. I just want to have a proper guide on how to update, so that I have the best odds possible
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1. It seems you're trying to upgrade your Glide via Odin. Unzip the zip, get all the files, put them in Odin folder (NOT the SD card, Odin is a PC-based tool) in the forums to proceed.
EDIT: Google is man's best friend. This is the Odin guide I followed when just a week ago I'm still new to my Glide: http://androidromupdate.com/2012/11/10/i927uclj3-new-ics-4-0-4-for-samsung-sgh-i927-captivate-glide/
2. Your EFS may already be dead Or I don't know, never used that tool before.
Sent from Samsung Captivate Glide @ I927UCLJ3
Okay I'll still advice you use the efs tool to. Back up your efs foder,then put your phone in download mode, using Odin flash the stock ICS ROM when its through flash any of the recovery through Odin again then allow the phone to reboot. you can now flash any of the ROMs I prefer the lite ROM anyways.
Good luck.
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Hey guys, this is my first HTC device. I've been reading through the threads here and in the intl forum and I just wanted to get a little info in one place as to what we can flash for this device. I sent mine off to someone with a Java Card, so now that I'm good to go, I wanted to see what all I (and other VZW users) can do at this early stage in the game. I know that until there is an easier way to S-Off/root/etc than sending your device to someone it is still kinda rocky as to development on this particular device, but I've heard mixed reviews on what ROMs/kernels are good to flash.
I assume that as long as I've got a custom recovery, flashing ROMs on this device would be the same as the other devices I've used... just pick the file in TWRP and flash, right?
As far as ROMs go, I've read that ViperOne works, along with InsertCoin with nothing extra.. just flash and go apparently. As for other ROMs, a little editing and some files from the stock VZW ROM should make them work, right? What files exactly would be needed?
Basically, if you've flashed anything, post your results here. What works, what doesn't, anything I should do before I start flashing myself. Any good threads I should read before I jump in. Thanks guys!
I have a thread about the roms in this forum named VZW M9 roms.
Basically the ones you've named I've tried with success. Also LeeDrOiD rom added Verizon support today. Build 7.5.
jtommyj said:
I have a thread about the roms in this forum named VZW M9 roms.
Basically the ones you've named I've tried with success. Also LeeDrOiD rom added Verizon support today. Build 7.5.
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I never claimed to be a genius I've read through your thread, that's where I got the ROMs that worked... My brain wasn't working at full capacity when I made the thread. Thanks.
That being said though, lets assume that a soft-brick occurs. How would one go about fixing that? In my experience with the S4 and the device I had previous to that, it was simple to fix a soft-brick as long as I still had recovery access. Would the same be true for the M9? What about reverting to stock.. as in stock recovery, firmware, etc. Also, from what I've seen, adb tends to be used a bit more for this device than others that I'm used to. Not that I have a problem with it, I just haven't used it very much and will likely have to brush up a little bit on the nuances of it. I just don't want to create a $650 paperweight so I want to be absolutely sure that what I'm doing can be fixed, and that I avoid doing things that CAN'T be fixed.
lordcheeto03 said:
I never claimed to be a genius I've read through your thread, that's where I got the ROMs that worked... My brain wasn't working at full capacity when I made the thread. Thanks.
That being said though, lets assume that a soft-brick occurs. How would one go about fixing that? In my experience with the S4 and the device I had previous to that, it was simple to fix a soft-brick as long as I still had recovery access. Would the same be true for the M9? What about reverting to stock.. as in stock recovery, firmware, etc. Also, from what I've seen, adb tends to be used a bit more for this device than others that I'm used to. Not that I have a problem with it, I just haven't used it very much and will likely have to brush up a little bit on the nuances of it. I just don't want to create a $650 paperweight so I want to be absolutely sure that what I'm doing can be fixed, and that I avoid doing things that CAN'T be fixed.
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Well first thing you need to have a custom recovery flashed.
Then you would need to backup your stock system. If you are in a soft brick then volume up and power being held at the same time should get you out of it.
There should not be a need to refresh firmware since the original firmware is all we have. I do believe an Ruu is being worked on currently.
Final word- if you're unsure,don't!!
Hi all,
I have an LS980 that I am trying to get to work for T-Mobile and have a few questions. I know the phone is capable of this feat, as I did it once, and have no recollection of what we did. It has since been flashed to stock.
I am basing a lot of what I'm trying off of this article, since it is basically what I'm trying to achieve.
I am able to flash the LS980 to stock as outlined in this article.
However, at 94% progress it says it is waiting 120 seconds for a reboot. At this point the phone reboots into the OS and seems to stop communicating with the LGFlashTool, so I never end up at 100%, though the Phone seems to be running. Not sure if this matters.
I am able to use IORoot successfully as well (verified with Root Checker
If I try using AutoRec to install TWRP, I can typically boot into recovery once, but after that one time, I enter a boot loop, and am unable to get into the system. I have been able to get into Recovery, but if I flash a rom, or try to just access the Stock system at this point, I enter a boot loop, or occasionally I boot to a black screen. In this situation, I have just ended up flashing to stock again.
My Questions:
I want to use the LS980 on Tmobile. It seems possible if I tweak the radio, the APN, prop builder, and a variety of other things. Alternatively, it seems like I could just flash a Tmobile ROM . If I flash a T-Mobile ROM , would I still need to go through all the system changes to make the phone work on T-Mobile's network, or is that sort of 'baked' into the ROM already?
Should I be concerned that while flashing to stock, it never hits 100%, even though it leaves me in the system? I have tried looking into it, but haven't really found any info on the matter.
Others who have used the LS980 on T-Mobile, did you opt to tweak the stock image settings, or go with a ROM? What was your reasoning? (ROM seems way easier overall, but curious none the less).
Once I have chosen Stock with settings changed, or T-Mobile ROM, what specifically needs to happen to get the phone access to the T-Mobile network? I have a SIM card from my other T-Mobile phone that fits the LS980, but I'm not certain what beyond putting the SIM into the phone needs to happen? (I don't swap phones enough to remember this). I'm sure there's a 'let me google that for you' coming my way on this one, but if there is, I just can't figure out the right way to ask the question.
I appreciate everyone's help with this.
I did end up getting this to work, and will be writing out the specifics to my task in detail in a bit so hopefully it can help someone later. But I thought I'd answer the questions I had with the answers I came across.
Fuzz1303 said:
My Questions:
I want to use the LS980 on Tmobile. It seems possible if I tweak the radio, the APN, prop builder, and a variety of other things. Alternatively, it seems like I could just flash a Tmobile ROM . If I flash a T-Mobile ROM , would I still need to go through all the system changes to make the phone work on T-Mobile's network, or is that sort of 'baked' into the ROM already?
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I ended up getting it to work off just the stock image. I still don't have a definitive answer if a T-MOBILE rom would need tweaked or not (I can't get ROMs to work... different issue).
Fuzz1303 said:
Should I be concerned that while flashing to stock, it never hits 100%, even though it leaves me in the system? I have tried looking into it, but haven't really found any info on the matter.
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I got everything working despite the restore only showing as getting to 94%. I can't say for sure if there are some unknown issues with not hitting 100%, but thus far it seems like all is well.
Fuzz1303 said:
Once I have chosen Stock with settings changed, or T-Mobile ROM, what specifically needs to happen to get the phone access to the T-Mobile network? I have a SIM card from my other T-Mobile phone that fits the LS980, but I'm not certain what beyond putting the SIM into the phone needs to happen?
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Since I was keeping the same phone number, I was able to just take the SIM from my current active phone, and put it in the LS980. All of the stuff I read about activating SIM cards etc only applied if you were switching SIM cards for reasons such as to change phone numbers, or if you didn't have one that fit the phone you were moving to.