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UnrEVOked "root"

First thing first. Let me explain that I'm pretty much an Android novice. I have had the Moment for a few months and never modded it and just recently got the EVO and as of yet have not modded it.
I don't think I have the balls to attempt the "FULL ROOT" but I think I'm willing to try this UnrEVOked method. It seems super simple to install and uninstall. My question to you guys is this: Using this UnrEVOked root what exactly am I getting that I'm not getting from a fresh out of the box stock EVO 4G?
From my limited understanding the only things you can really do is overclock the phone (is this even safe? If so what is the best program and what are the ideal settings?) and also enable tethering (once again, what program would you use?)
Anyone that has UnrEVOked installed on their EVO please give me some insight about this and whether or not you recommend others to try it.
Many thanks in advance!

From what Ive gathered trough complains and other post. It's a temp root. removing apps return after a reboot, no writing to system etc. Pretty useless *from what it seems* SO just take the plunge and do the toast method as it is also needed to run the latest Roms if you intend to do such. Hope that was semi-helpful.

It allows me to run wireless tether and full titanium backup, which is all i wanted to do anyway.

I feel the same way.. unrevoked gave me wifi tether, system panel and Titanium. I may take the plunge when there's a full blown 2.2 rom. Until then, this is all I need.
That overclock app is really an underclock to save battery when in standby. Not sure it even works.
My battery is hanging just fine now that I've made the few tweaks and don't stay on it all day.

SantinoInc said:
First thing first. Let me explain that I'm pretty much an Android novice. I have had the Moment for a few months and never modded it and just recently got the EVO and as of yet have not modded it.
I don't think I have the balls to attempt the "FULL ROOT" but I think I'm willing to try this UnrEVOked method. It seems super simple to install and uninstall. My question to you guys is this: Using this UnrEVOked root what exactly am I getting that I'm not getting from a fresh out of the box stock EVO 4G?
From my limited understanding the only things you can really do is overclock the phone (is this even safe? If so what is the best program and what are the ideal settings?) and also enable tethering (once again, what program would you use?)
Anyone that has UnrEVOked installed on their EVO please give me some insight about this and whether or not you recommend others to try it.
Many thanks in advance!
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UnrEVOked is very simple which was it's purpose.
However it's not REAL root access. Real root gives you ability to flash custom roms that have MANY more features and tweaks that Sprint/HTC can't afford to invest the time/man hours/money in.
With Custom ROMS you get better battery life, more freedom and options to customize what Sprint/HTC shove down our throats.
IF you search the market for the word ROOT. You'll see what you're missing. Most of those apps won't work properly if you don't have real root access.
What is "real root?" having NAND access to flash a custom recovery image and being able to do away with ADB access from your computer and the ability to write to the /system folder.
Imagine being able to delete all that Sprint crap that is taking up space that no one uses. Not even you.
Your choice. It's all worth it. 79,000+ views for Damages ROM can't be wrong.

swebby00 said:
I feel the same way.. unrevoked gave me wifi tether, system panel and Titanium. I may take the plunge when there's a full blown 2.2 rom. Until then, this is all I need.
That overclock app is really an underclock to save battery when in standby. Not sure it even works.
My battery is hanging just fine now that I've made the few tweaks and don't stay on it all day.
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Where can I get wifi tether once I d/l Unrevoked? Also, what is system panel and Titanium?

http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
I installed 2.0.2 version.
Titanium is a system backup tool.
And system panel is a neat little app that let's you look at your performance. I downloaded it when I did the overclock tool - which is still installed.. but it's debatable on if it's really do anything. So not sure if I can recommend it. But you can try it if you're having battery issues still. I did too many things at once and can't tell what really helped.

Thanks for the help swebby. I'm going to try those programs u recommended.
Do you know if its true that you can get paid apps for free once you install unrEVOked?
Some kid posted a video on utube stating u can d/l free paid apps on 4shared.com. Any truth to this to ur knowledge

I don't know about that site.. and like I said. I'm new to this too. But I think in theory, you can install any .apk file you want, if someone shares it with you. I've pulled several apps like that so far.
But there could be a licensing issue I just don't know about yet. Like some app might require a license file tied to hdw or something. I really don't know.
But, if you can get an apk file, you should be able to in theory install it from your sd card.
In truth tho, most of these apps are only one or two dollars.. and the developers deserve some compensation for their work. So it's one thing to install one to try out.. but if you like it, you should pay for it, donate, etc.

[Q] I just rooted HTC EVO, now What

Hello,
I am a rookie in android world, i just rooted my HTC EVO with 2.2. I was wondering if some can tell me the benefits of rooting the device and tips and tricks
thanks

I wonder why would you root your phone and have not one clue on what it does or what you can do with it. And if you rooted your phone obviously you know how to look through a forum.. also you should do nand unlock also.
Anyways. Things like over, underclock, use 3rd party apps, use apps that have to have root in order to use. That's some. There is a search button that helps out alot unless you are using the app for xda then use Google. Also if you read through topics if mostly on topics when rooted. Also custom roms and kernels.
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Please provide some helpful guidelines instead of criticism

Yeah that was putting it lightly. People are going to flame you for posting something you can learn by just reading a few posts in each thread.. or going to back out and nit even give you 10 seconds of their life because you fail to read or search on a topic that makes this forum. If it wasn't for rooting and all the other stuff that comes with it. And I gave you some info. I don't feel like searching everything for you and posting the link.
Edit: helpful guidelines... search button and Google are very helpful. Serious and all, spend a hour on here in the forums and you will answer the questions on your post. I was new on here when I got my evo. I rooted because I heard what you can do. Not because I heard about root and had no clue. If you Google there are yahoo topics asking this and fully explains. Wiki fully in detail explains this. So many other websites and forums have the info you want. I'm not trying to sound rude here and people might take it as rude. You will probably here 10 times from people about the search button after hearing it from me.
Edit again. There isn't really any guidelines after root. Depends what you want to do after. Use apps that use root, use a custom rom or kernel, or theme and customize everything... well almost everything..
If I could post links to the info I prob would.. but can't..
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The main thing after rooting and nand unlock is to be able to use custom roms and kernels. There are 2 types. Sense and senseless roms. Senseless roms are called asop. Cm6 is a rom that has no sense in it at all.
You can use setcpu which is a paid app in the market to overclock or underclock. You need a custom kernel and sometimes with stock kernel you can overclock. You don't need a custom kernel to underclock. Also there are many thing implemented in kernels to help your phone run faster or use less battery. Read all kernels. Some kernels can only run on sense or asop roms.
You can change most stuff on your phone. When you turn phone on you have the splash screen which is the first thing on. Then you have bootscreen. Both can be changed. You can change the icons with an app in the market but forgot the name of it.
There are different launchers. Launcher pro and adw launcher.
Each has there own pros and cons.
You can change keyboards... like swype and Droid x keyboard or ones in market.
Most of the icons on the status bar can be changed. There are themes that theme everything on your phone..
So much more.. you can spend hours on here and find new stuff to do. You will probably put a custom rom on and kernel and there almost all of them or enough and find one that suites your needs...
Hope this helps better.. I'm bored at home while girlfriend is at the bar..
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Thanks now for the help. Any special Rom thats the besy?
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Depends on what you are looking for... every rom is different. They all look different.. and some take out gapps (Google apps) and sprint apps.. just try one first to learn how to flash a rom and understand how to do that. Then just read up on roms and find one that suites you..
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ken101 said:
Thanks now for the help. Any special Rom thats the besy?
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It's really up to personal choice. Just make sure that you back up your phone and that you have NAND unlocked.

How do I figure out if I have nand unlocked, what's the good software that I can use to backup my phone
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There is lots of information on the xda website a good place to start is http://tinyurl.com/25tc3xr

ken101 said:
Please provide some helpful guidelines instead of criticism
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hehe... let's see if I got this right.
You rooted your phone
After rooting your phone, you're asking what you can do with it now
marty responds and thinks it's a little strange why a person would root his phone and then ask what benefit it was, to do so, he also includes some benefits of rooting, then follows it up with some helpful advice on how to use the search to find answers here
You respond by telling him to FU with the criticism, and give him "real answers"
This world never fails to amaze me.
Common Sense 101 (you got that in your nym, but sadly, nowhere else) is you READ about what rooting is, what bad things could happen if you do it, what advantages and disadvantages there are, how dangerous it is to do so, how hard it is, the success/failure rate of it, the different methods of doing it.. You do all this READING.......
BEFORE YOU ROOT YOUR PHONE!!!!
Would you not agree, that would be a more sensible approach?
Granted, it's too late now, but maybe you could use that approach in the future?
This is not criticism, this is a HELPFUL GUIDELINE

I got your back
Wow Deja vu you are me a few months ago. Well I think I will help you out a little bit.
Rooting does two things. First, it gives you su binaries and a supeuser app that let you access your phone's operating system to make small changes and use apps that could harm the phone over a long time and/or save you moneeeeey! Second, it lets you install a custom recovery. Recovery mode is a tool that lets your phone update itself and, in a total system crash, recovery itself. A cutoff recovery can make the phone think it is being updated or recovered, but is actually being totally changed.
NAND unlocking lets you make major changes to the operating system that you couldn't do otherwise by removing all security (from you, not from hackers) and letting you install asop and other stuff.
Once you get a custom recovery, you can flash (falsely update with a read only zip file) a rom. These rooms can have small or large changes depending on personal preference. You can add themes to these rooms the same way, and change kernels, as well as installing root only apps.
Remember, before you flash anything ALWAYS make a nandroid backup in recovery mode, so if your phone is totally wrecked from the inside, you can fix it. There is no other way to fix it if you mess something up.
You're welcome.

Some Information 4u
Why can't you guys just answer his F'in question, a$$holes.
ken101, some thoughts.
Try these links to get more information.
http://smarterware.org/3189/why-and-how-to-root-your-android-phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
the procedure I followed to root my stock 2.2 EVO, basically you downgrade to 2.1, install unrevoke, upgrade to 2.2.
Here is a good one that goes through all the steps. NOTE: YOU WILL NOT FOLLOW this for your phone, but it gives you an idea of what you next steps are.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5214290
From the link above, research every step, so you learn the pros/cons. For example, why wipe my phone, do I need to, does the custom rom require it, what does wiping do.
AND remember, BACKUP FIRST, BACKUP FIRST, should I say that again.
When you rooted your phone, you installed a Recovery Mod, you should via SuperUser be able to boot into it. There is a feature called NANDROID, use it to backup your system and apps before you do anything else. You will then be able to use the same procedure to restore if you do something that breaks your phone (breaks as in the system), going forward.
Good Look Chief, sounds like you are on your way. One last, google search "best roms for Evo", see what you come up with, I think there are 6 or 7 good custom roms out there now for the EVO, make sure they are ready for 2.2, but anyway, investigate the pro/cons of each rom before going forward.
Cya..

Thanks a lot you guys, you guys helped a lot!
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Best roms
Honestly, cyanogen is too unstable and you lose too much. It is very widely respected, but I do prefer ava v7 froyo. It has the battery life of fresh, and some great visual and app enhancements. Choose wisely. And, I cannot say it enough, NANDROID BACKUP! ! !

IDK how someone who actually had the patience to ROOT stock 2.2 (which looks very much like a pain in the ass to me!) is so clueless after having just completed that task? Wouldn't you have a few ideas in mind before you rooted your phone?

Thanks for the nice remarks. The reason I didn't look ahead because I wanted to see if I can root it or not. Once I was able to next step was to do creative stuff with it.
I hope you r satisfied
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I just ate a snickers bar, I feel very satisfied right now...

rcbarr said:
Why can't you guys just answer his F'in question, a$$holes.
ken101, some thoughts.
Try these links to get more information.
http://smarterware.org/3189/why-and-how-to-root-your-android-phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
the procedure I followed to root my stock 2.2 EVO, basically you downgrade to 2.1, install unrevoke, upgrade to 2.2.
Here is a good one that goes through all the steps. NOTE: YOU WILL NOT FOLLOW this for your phone, but it gives you an idea of what you next steps are.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5214290
From the link above, research every step, so you learn the pros/cons. For example, why wipe my phone, do I need to, does the custom rom require it, what does wiping do.
AND remember, BACKUP FIRST, BACKUP FIRST, should I say that again.
When you rooted your phone, you installed a Recovery Mod, you should via SuperUser be able to boot into it. There is a feature called NANDROID, use it to backup your system and apps before you do anything else. You will then be able to use the same procedure to restore if you do something that breaks your phone (breaks as in the system), going forward.
Good Look Chief, sounds like you are on your way. One last, google search "best roms for Evo", see what you come up with, I think there are 6 or 7 good custom roms out there now for the EVO, make sure they are ready for 2.2, but anyway, investigate the pro/cons of each rom before going forward.
Cya..
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Good Hearted & Understanding... STAY THAT WAY!

quick question ken 101, your evo came android 2.2 stock? before you rooted it

does rooting disable OTA updates?

I want to Root my Evo,but i have no idea if i will be able to get my gingerbread or even honeycomb OTA update.
i really dont know how to do manually updates,i dont know if its even hard to do.
What is a good/reliable team to get my rooting access from?
in Mind is the UnrEVOked team.
please give me your opinions to help me make the right decisions.
and threads or anything useful for me to have.

If you stay on the stock ROM you should still be able to get ota's but you might loose your root. The cooked ROMs will be updated usually before the official updates are even rolled out, and most likely tweaked and improved. I wouldn't even worry about sprints updates. As far as choosing a ROM, just read through the development forum and read what the ROM offers and the comments through the thread of users reporting bugs (if any) and opinions of performance. Baked snack, CM, and fresh seem to be the most popular and stable. Start with one of those. I used calkulin and frost, both work well too if you like vanilla Android, fresh was the only sense ROM I used and it was very nice. Its all about what look you want and customization. Thats the beauty of Android.
There are plenty of tutorials on the process, read the useful threads and links thread. Thats a good place to start. When ROMs get updated just flash over the previous unless the dev says a wipe is needed, which is rare.

I mean I love my sense. I can't go on without the beautiful widgets it comes with.
Plus the upgrade they're doing for sense is coming out soon.
But I need to know if a custom recovery is the same as a custom Rom.
I am thinking of doing Unrevoked because its the only one I know that does 2.2 root. Please give me links!
Thanks for the massive help tho.
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Caspers25 said:
I mean I love my sense. I can't go on without the beautiful widgets it comes with.
Plus the upgrade they're doing for sense is coming out soon.
But I need to know if a custom recovery is the same as a custom Rom.
I am thinking of doing Unrevoked because its the only one I know that does 2.2 root. Please give me links!
Thanks for the massive help tho.
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Custom recovery will either be "R.A." or "ClockworkMod." They are a little different from each other. People usually use R.A. They say that clockworkmod doesn't delete cache right, but I personally use clockwork. What a recovery is, is a menu outside the phones system that allows you to install flashable zips. It also allows you to wipe anything, format anything and create & restore nandroid back ups.
There are tons of Roms. Roms are the system of your phone. Usually flashed from the SD card.
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If you do unrevoked forever, you won't lose root when you accept an OTA.

_MetalHead_ said:
If you do unrevoked forever, you won't lose root when you accept an OTA.
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The one thing i have seen is that if you root and use unrevoked forever then you can't accept OTA's either, i have seen this with alot of people including myself, not sure why, but you can download the OTA, but it will not upack, literally, as you start it just freeze's up within the first mintues, and no matter how many times you try, it won't take.

tomh1979 said:
The one thing i have seen is that if you root and use unrevoked forever then you can't accept OTA's either, i have seen this with alot of people including myself, not sure why, but you can download the OTA, but it will not upack, literally, as you start it just freeze's up within the first mintues, and no matter how many times you try, it won't take.
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Hmm... I haven't heard of that but don't doubt it.
The thing is, the devs here usually get their hands on OTAs before they are rolled out, then they make them better and package them into their ROMs. I see no reason to even care about receiving OTAs at all, tbqh

Well i was reading about it and from what I gathered up.
It tells me that if you have a custom Rom you aren't able to accept OTAs,I don't wanna manually update my phone. I don't even know how.
But I need to know of a custom recovery with disable me from getting OTAs,help?
If I should use any custom recovery or any team who should I get my root from? I have a unrooted 2.2 sense.
I need a guide and video tutorial,ha.
I'm on my girls MAC,so no windows stuff please.
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Referring to your original post here, I wouldn't root until you are fully comfortable with getting down and dirty with your phone. You say you don't want to or even know how to manually update your phone, well that is Android 101. If you aren't fully familiar with everything that rooting entails (custom recoveries, kernels, ROMs, SU permissions) then you need to keep reading. I spent weeks reading everything I could find before I rooted my phone and I suggest doing the same so you don't potentially fark things up.
Read the wiki, read through the rooting threads in development and really try and build a full understanding of what you're doing before you make the leap.

Well I've rooted my g1 way back then. But I know its not the same concept anymore,but they really never had an update it was just 1.6 so yeah.
I just want OTAs still.
Does any one know what is an Nandroid?
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I agree with _MetalHead_ . You really need to read more on rooting, ROMS (and in the process, you'll learn about Nandroid!) before proceeding. I also spent weeks reading and then I didn't go full root - just enough to get wireless tether. Then, I read some more. There are some incredibly helpful people here as well as some incredibly rude people.
While unrevoked can get you started, learn adb and get comfortable pulling and pushing apks. Get very comfortable with Nandroid because it's going to save you.
My lessons learned are 1) NEVER accept an OTA update because it can take devs a long while to gain root, and 2) be patient and NEVER pull the battery while the Evo is doing something - like updating.

I use apk files already and unrooted.
And thank you very helpful.
PLEASE someone tell me what Nandroid is.
And sites where I can learn about rooting all together.
What do I need to look for?
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A nandroid backup can be done from the recovery screen and it essentially backs up your phone EXACTLY as it is when you run it. So if you want to change something, you nandroid backup (which includes contacts, themes, settings, everything) and if your change doesn't work out, you can boot into recovery and restore your nandroid backup.
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The one thing i have seen is that if you root and use unrevoked forever then you can't accept OTA's either, i have seen this with alot of people including myself, not sure why, but you can download the OTA, but it will not upack, literally, as you start it just freeze's up within the first mintues, and no matter how many times you try, it won't take.
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Just did a little research. The reason why the updates won't take is because of the custom recovery. You need to flash a stock recovery in order to accept updates. It's on Unrevoked's website.
I use apk files already and unrooted.
And thank you very helpful.
PLEASE someone tell me what Nandroid is.
And sites where I can learn about rooting all together.
What do I need to look for?
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Google is your friend. Nandroid is a way to backup and restore your phone.
I already posted the link to the wiki, that is the first place you should start. Next, read through a lot of rooting threads in the development forum here on xda. If you still have questions use the forum's search tool and use google. You gotta do the legwork.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Nandroid+Backup
this should help... teach a man to fish...

Want to Root But Afraid

Hello all. I'm not new to Android or rooting. I had a Hero for a year and have flashed many roms and numerous other customizations. Also not being a noob to XDA I've been doing my research on rooting my new toy the Evo. I was confident about rooting my Hero because it seemed damn near impossible to brick. However, it seems as though this isn't the case with the Evo, or at least not with 4g. I want to root in the worst way but am fearful of permanently loosing 4g, which brings me to a few questions. But before I get there here's what I've learned through much research.
First, Amon Ra 1.80 backs up wimax.img but it's also necessary to double check that it's done properly as some have had problems with faulty md5sums. Things such as the MAC info can be restored and is available on the box or behind the battery. It's also essential to make sure that nandroid back-ups, or, at least the one containing a wimax.img is stored in multiple secure locations (I always do this with nandroids anyway). Second, if you don't have your original wimax.img which contains your RSA keys you're screwed and have to get a new Evo, which brings me to some questions.
I just upgraded to the Evo a few days ago and have all of the newest updates so is it safe to say that if I root I don't have to worry about messing with the radio/wimax for some time and can just flash roms? Are the radio and wimax radio two different things and if so how can I flash upgrades without worrying about loosing my RSA keys? What is the safest way to upgrade anything other than the roms? In other words if a new radio comes out is it best to un-root and officially upgrade everything and then re-root? Finally, because I can't seem to establish an exact answer to this:is there a such thing as totally un-rooting the Evo? By this I mean, if I follow the steps listed in some of the threads on here for un-rooting does that make everything 100% factory.
I'm paranoid about rooting also because I've switched to Best Buy's service plan which has its pluses and minuses. If I were to root and loose 4g somehow and had to take it back, I'm not sure of how much of a pain in the ass they are in comparison to Sprint. My understanding with the Hero was that it could be totally restored to factory condition by running an official RUU but I can't tell if it's the same with the Evo.
Lol, if you've managed to read all of this, you're probably thinking that I'm so paranoid that I shouldn't root and maybe you're right. However, I liked all of the root abilities I had with my Hero but didn't have the same potential consequences. Can the same be said of the Evo? Should I just wait until there's more development in solving RSA key problems?

Just go for it. Those people who are having RSA key issues have updated their radios through flashing. (I used the same tequnique but never lost my keys...no one knows what's going on yet). Go for it. You will never regret it =).

it's very simple. also squaretrade is the best deal for warranties

unrevoked + unrevoked forever, then you don't have to worry about messing up with 4g as it only flashes recovery and sets S-OFF, no changes to the stock rom or 4g.

Dont be afraid
I root evo's all the time. Some for friends, some for friends of friends who pay me a little $. The point is, I have rooted dozens of EVO's using the latest Unrevoked method. I use a MAC so I don't need to install any drivers (makes it easier).
You WONT have any problems as long as you have not flashed anything crazy to your phone (radio, wimax, etc)>
The worst that will happen is the unrevoked program will say "sorry, we did not get root, but thats normal, please try again."
Sometimes it takes 3 times and then bang you have root.
Also, I have unrooted my phone and its easy as pie.
Don't stress.
If you want some help, I can G-chat you through the whole process or help if you get stuck.
Just PM me if you want help.

To be honest all u have to do is read up on it. Google jonamerica.com(how to root)Trust me I jus rooted less than a week ago so I guess I am considered as a newbie. All in all I have my Evo running like Kentucky Derby Pro. Just gotta look past the fear that u have. If you follow those instructions correctly everything should go great. Check out other forums about rooting to confirm the steps in the link I posted for you. More than likely using unrevoked 3 nothing could go wrong. Ounce the phone is finally rooted, that's where all precaution comes into play. But there's nothing that a (nandroid backup) can't fix. Read up on that also. GOOD LUCK!!!
r0cky.Da.3v0.SU

You seem like a cautious person ... I am as well. There are lots of really bright people developing for the Evo, occasionally they push the envelope. That's ok with me, because their creativity is what makes all the good stuff available. With that said, the Sprint/HTC stock offering isn't too bad, but if you're like most of us ... it quickly won't be enough for you.
Go ahead and root ... just use good sense, and don't assume that everything that gets posted is ok ... sometimes, it takes a little time for things to shake out. For instance, I still haven't jumped to the new PRI and Wimax radio. Some have had great results ... some have been not so good. I expect to update ... but in the meantime, still enjoying all the benefits of some great custom work. Go for it ... you'll be ok.

And by the way u don't lose 4g ounce rooted. Certain ROMs that u flash don't have a 4g fix. So jus make sure u know what ur flashing.
r0cky.Da.3v0.SU

Thanks all!!
Wow! I wasn't expecting so many responses. Rather than multi-quote everyone who posted I just want to say thanks to all of you!!! I haven't rooted yet but will get there. I'm still doing a little more research before I take the plunge.
Hypothetically, if a new Wimax radio comes out how can it be installed safely, is it best to unroot and officially upgrade then re-root? What have you guys been doing when upgrading the radios, since it seems best to not just flash them.

In the past, I've always just flashed the new radio over the rom. With the new radio that has had some problems ... it's not the process ... it's that it's not the official release. With this kind of stuff, patience is a virtue.

I was teribbly afraid too. I put 2 weeks of research before rooting. The first time I did it I messed up, but then the second time it worked. You will not lose 4g unless you are using CM6.

Get a radio that's very compatible with your rom. It will be safe to flash jus hip cache and dalvik cache and u should be fine. Male sure to nandroid backup before doing so.
r0cky.Da.3v0.SU

aerajan said:
Wow! I wasn't expecting so many responses. Rather than multi-quote everyone who posted I just want to say thanks to all of you!!! I haven't rooted yet but will get there. I'm still doing a little more research before I take the plunge.
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I'm with you. I just purchased my new Evo on Oct 1st and it came preinstalled with OS v2.2.
I rooted my previous Hero just days after the first exploit was found and it was quite easy. The Evo rooting and rom installing process looks much different however and I'll need to continue researching this one a bit longer.
I'm not a fan of one-click root methods and would much rather stick with good ol' adb commands, so I think I'm going to wait until a new command line method comes out that works specifically with 2.2. I read about the one method so far that works with 2.2, but I'd rather not downgrade anything.
Current phone info:
OS 2.2
Build 3.26.651.6
PRI 1.71_003
PRL 60671

I have a feeling that you'll search and research for a good long while, then, like a kid on Christmas eve who just can't wait and has to shake the presents, you'll root. Then... Happiness!
Sent from my Virus Infected Evo using the XDA app.

OP - I'm in the same boat as you. I really only want to root for WiFi tethering, but then I found out that PDAnet and EasyTether allow cable tethering, with PDAnet also offering tethering over Bluetooth. So as of right now I'm still a bit undecided, but am still trying to read up on all the available options.

My advice to you (as I was burned by a bad Unrevoked patch), is wait a few days to apply things that mess with your radio. This will sort out the bugs and whatnot.
The Unrevoked team didn't test a patch properly and they killed 4g for a lot of people.

[Q] rooting, I really...

Hi, I have the desire, and well I'm board with it, I want to mess around with different roms like miui, gingerbread extra. But I don't understand, please could someone help me with some of my questions? Thank :
1) What are the chances of breaking it through rooting, and what could happen, and would should you do it it does happen?
2) what does bricked mean, and is there away of unbricking?
1) what do you do if a bad rom breaks?
1.5) what are the chances of things going wrong?
2) Can you have more than one rom installed at a time, and switch between them, a bit like you can with launchers, and uses the same apps and data on those roms?
2.5) Is unrevoked the best way to root?
3) I you can have more than one rom, can you have a gingerbread rom, side loaded with a froyo from?
4) How do you switch between the roms?
5)Does rooting affect battery life?
6) Using unrevoked, is there anyway to unroot?
7) where do you find roms, and does the rom manager in the market allow you to install them without flashing?
8)Is there a good htc sense hd or gingerbread rom that works well?
9) With different roms increase the speed of the device, like the n1 is faster than the desire, yet they have the same hardware?
I know that a lot of questions but i am really nervousness about this and I can't seem to find todate answerers to these questions. If someone could help me with these questions I would be very great full, as I want to get more our of my device. Thanks ( I know there are a lot of rooting threads, but I really need to find out as much as i can before I undergo this, I love my desire too much to allow it to break when there was something that i could have done)

There is a remote chance (0.00000001%) of anything going wrong as long as you follow the steps to the rooting process and S-Off. If you become bricked then there is a topic on how to unbrick.
Easiest and best way to root is to using unrevoked 3.32. Make sure you download the HBoot drivers from their website. After rooting, it is also good to make your device S-Off'd. Your able to flash HBoot templates to change partition sizes and also change the splash and remove system apps and so on.
You can only have 1 rom installed at a time. You have to flash roms as well, that's how you install them and other zip files through the recovery. If a rom breaks, you can just flash it again. Installing a rom takes 5 mins, if that really.
You find roms in the Android Dev section. You can use Rom Manager but you have to pay or something.
You can have a fast rom or a "slower" rom. It depends on how it's been built and stuff but also the kernel can help to speed things up. (Speed isn't always the answer). There is no best or crappiest rom either. It's best to test many out for yourself.
Battery life again depends on the rom and the kernel.
Things To Download
To root a device
To S-Off your device
Roms and alsort of other nice things
Hope this helps you out.

Thanks very much , but do you need to install "S-Off" as I don't quite understand what it does, and which one to download and how to install it. Thanks

You don't need to install S-Off after a root. S-Off just allows you to do more things like uninstall system apps, change the splash screen, change the HBoot (not quite sure what else). If your not going to be doing them sort of things then stay away from it.
When you root, the unrevoked utility roots it and changes the recovery to ClockworkMod 2.5.1.8. That recovery allows you to boot into it and install roms through it. It has a menu and you use your optical tracker to navigate through them. That is how you install different roms.
With the roms, you need to see which one you like. I've been through almost all of them and I have one I stick to now. I can't say which is the best, that's for you to decide. The Gingerbread roms are Android 2.3 and I THINK, emphasis on the THINK, that the rest of the roms are Android 2.2.
I think at first your like, oh what if I mess things up and stuff but you won't if you follow instructions. When I first did it, I completely messed up and couldn't even boot into a rom at all and was wondering how to sort it out. I got there in the end but still. I also forgot to mention, if you want the stock rom back, you can install one of the RUU's. It will wipe everything and you will have to root again, but you will have stock.

Thanks very much , when change roms will you lose all of your apps, and data?

Yes. When your changing roms, you have to erase all data. It is a must and everything will go, apps, user data including texts and contacts, EVERYTHING!!!.

Thanks so much for all your help, i'm going to do it now, and use cyanogen mod 7 or 6.x. Thanks again

No worries. If you get stuck, just message me or something.

Completely IGNORE S-OFF if you're a n00b, it shouldn't be recommended to anyone who:
1. Doesn't know what it is
2. Doesn't actually need it
Concentrate on rooting and running a custom ROM first

Not actually true. When I S-Off'd my Desire, I didn't have a bloody clue, other than it disables all security, what it was. You eventually learn things like I did and read a little more. S-Off is a great tool to have on your phone because it gives you all the more freedom to do what ever you want with your device. I will say for all the "n00bs" out there that if you are S-Off'ing then please read it all carefully, unlike me because I could have messed it all up.

You were lucky - better to learn first, do second

I saw recently a wiped imei which made me cautious
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Thanks for all you help, I have rooted and now have a custom rom (cm 6.1). Thanks

EddyOS said:
Completely IGNORE S-OFF if you're a n00b
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I would add that if you're a n00b, don't even try to get your device rooted!

Lothaen said:
I saw recently a wiped imei which made me cautious
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I would ask if that's even possbile. Apparently it is.

Delete the efs storage without a backup... doh
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I had a stock Desire and wouldn't move from it. Then the niggles in the current build just annoyed me enough to actually go down the root route (see what I did there? )
So I rooted and after a few mishaps along the way (make backups of everything, phone and SD card, especially if you partition it!) I am very happy with my Ginger Villain ROM. A few things still niggle (Me avatar in texts blank, phone reboots randomly to name a few), but its not as bad as it used to be. I can live without Sense as well surprisingly enough.
I also did the same for a friend, and stuck them on LeeDroid 2.3d and as they are technically challenged, it works for them sweet as.

stringent said:
I had a stock Desire and wouldn't move from it. Then the niggles in the current build just annoyed me enough to actually go down the root route (see what I did there? )
So I rooted and after a few mishaps along the way (make backups of everything, phone and SD card, especially if you partition it!) I am very happy with my Ginger Villain ROM. A few things still niggle (Me avatar in texts blank, phone reboots randomly to name a few), but its not as bad as it used to be. I can live without Sense as well surprisingly enough.
I also did the same for a friend, and stuck them on LeeDroid 2.3d and as they are technically challenged, it works for them sweet as.
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Haha that made me laugh. As for your contact icon of yourself, you need to add yourself. Your own number and name and then you can add a picture. Yes it is annoying a little because Android natively doesn't have like a "contact card" for yourself.
Rooting and S-Off is the best thing I did by far

GoogleJelly said:
Haha that made me laugh. As for your contact icon of yourself, you need to add yourself. Your own number and name and then you can add a picture. Yes it is annoying a little because Android natively doesn't have like a "contact card" for yourself.
Rooting and S-Off is the best thing I did by far
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bump creates a contact card for yourself...
right at the top of the phonebook called 'My Contact Card'

Lothaen said:
bump creates a contact card for yourself...
right at the top of the phonebook called 'My Contact Card'
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Odd, I don't have that, I had it in the Sense UI, not on the stock Ginger Villain ROM, unless I am missing something ...