Hello,
I am a rookie in android world, i just rooted my HTC EVO with 2.2. I was wondering if some can tell me the benefits of rooting the device and tips and tricks
thanks
I wonder why would you root your phone and have not one clue on what it does or what you can do with it. And if you rooted your phone obviously you know how to look through a forum.. also you should do nand unlock also.
Anyways. Things like over, underclock, use 3rd party apps, use apps that have to have root in order to use. That's some. There is a search button that helps out alot unless you are using the app for xda then use Google. Also if you read through topics if mostly on topics when rooted. Also custom roms and kernels.
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Please provide some helpful guidelines instead of criticism
Yeah that was putting it lightly. People are going to flame you for posting something you can learn by just reading a few posts in each thread.. or going to back out and nit even give you 10 seconds of their life because you fail to read or search on a topic that makes this forum. If it wasn't for rooting and all the other stuff that comes with it. And I gave you some info. I don't feel like searching everything for you and posting the link.
Edit: helpful guidelines... search button and Google are very helpful. Serious and all, spend a hour on here in the forums and you will answer the questions on your post. I was new on here when I got my evo. I rooted because I heard what you can do. Not because I heard about root and had no clue. If you Google there are yahoo topics asking this and fully explains. Wiki fully in detail explains this. So many other websites and forums have the info you want. I'm not trying to sound rude here and people might take it as rude. You will probably here 10 times from people about the search button after hearing it from me.
Edit again. There isn't really any guidelines after root. Depends what you want to do after. Use apps that use root, use a custom rom or kernel, or theme and customize everything... well almost everything..
If I could post links to the info I prob would.. but can't..
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The main thing after rooting and nand unlock is to be able to use custom roms and kernels. There are 2 types. Sense and senseless roms. Senseless roms are called asop. Cm6 is a rom that has no sense in it at all.
You can use setcpu which is a paid app in the market to overclock or underclock. You need a custom kernel and sometimes with stock kernel you can overclock. You don't need a custom kernel to underclock. Also there are many thing implemented in kernels to help your phone run faster or use less battery. Read all kernels. Some kernels can only run on sense or asop roms.
You can change most stuff on your phone. When you turn phone on you have the splash screen which is the first thing on. Then you have bootscreen. Both can be changed. You can change the icons with an app in the market but forgot the name of it.
There are different launchers. Launcher pro and adw launcher.
Each has there own pros and cons.
You can change keyboards... like swype and Droid x keyboard or ones in market.
Most of the icons on the status bar can be changed. There are themes that theme everything on your phone..
So much more.. you can spend hours on here and find new stuff to do. You will probably put a custom rom on and kernel and there almost all of them or enough and find one that suites your needs...
Hope this helps better.. I'm bored at home while girlfriend is at the bar..
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Thanks now for the help. Any special Rom thats the besy?
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Depends on what you are looking for... every rom is different. They all look different.. and some take out gapps (Google apps) and sprint apps.. just try one first to learn how to flash a rom and understand how to do that. Then just read up on roms and find one that suites you..
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ken101 said:
Thanks now for the help. Any special Rom thats the besy?
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It's really up to personal choice. Just make sure that you back up your phone and that you have NAND unlocked.
How do I figure out if I have nand unlocked, what's the good software that I can use to backup my phone
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There is lots of information on the xda website a good place to start is http://tinyurl.com/25tc3xr
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Please provide some helpful guidelines instead of criticism
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hehe... let's see if I got this right.
You rooted your phone
After rooting your phone, you're asking what you can do with it now
marty responds and thinks it's a little strange why a person would root his phone and then ask what benefit it was, to do so, he also includes some benefits of rooting, then follows it up with some helpful advice on how to use the search to find answers here
You respond by telling him to FU with the criticism, and give him "real answers"
This world never fails to amaze me.
Common Sense 101 (you got that in your nym, but sadly, nowhere else) is you READ about what rooting is, what bad things could happen if you do it, what advantages and disadvantages there are, how dangerous it is to do so, how hard it is, the success/failure rate of it, the different methods of doing it.. You do all this READING.......
BEFORE YOU ROOT YOUR PHONE!!!!
Would you not agree, that would be a more sensible approach?
Granted, it's too late now, but maybe you could use that approach in the future?
This is not criticism, this is a HELPFUL GUIDELINE
I got your back
Wow Deja vu you are me a few months ago. Well I think I will help you out a little bit.
Rooting does two things. First, it gives you su binaries and a supeuser app that let you access your phone's operating system to make small changes and use apps that could harm the phone over a long time and/or save you moneeeeey! Second, it lets you install a custom recovery. Recovery mode is a tool that lets your phone update itself and, in a total system crash, recovery itself. A cutoff recovery can make the phone think it is being updated or recovered, but is actually being totally changed.
NAND unlocking lets you make major changes to the operating system that you couldn't do otherwise by removing all security (from you, not from hackers) and letting you install asop and other stuff.
Once you get a custom recovery, you can flash (falsely update with a read only zip file) a rom. These rooms can have small or large changes depending on personal preference. You can add themes to these rooms the same way, and change kernels, as well as installing root only apps.
Remember, before you flash anything ALWAYS make a nandroid backup in recovery mode, so if your phone is totally wrecked from the inside, you can fix it. There is no other way to fix it if you mess something up.
You're welcome.
Some Information 4u
Why can't you guys just answer his F'in question, a$$holes.
ken101, some thoughts.
Try these links to get more information.
http://smarterware.org/3189/why-and-how-to-root-your-android-phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
the procedure I followed to root my stock 2.2 EVO, basically you downgrade to 2.1, install unrevoke, upgrade to 2.2.
Here is a good one that goes through all the steps. NOTE: YOU WILL NOT FOLLOW this for your phone, but it gives you an idea of what you next steps are.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5214290
From the link above, research every step, so you learn the pros/cons. For example, why wipe my phone, do I need to, does the custom rom require it, what does wiping do.
AND remember, BACKUP FIRST, BACKUP FIRST, should I say that again.
When you rooted your phone, you installed a Recovery Mod, you should via SuperUser be able to boot into it. There is a feature called NANDROID, use it to backup your system and apps before you do anything else. You will then be able to use the same procedure to restore if you do something that breaks your phone (breaks as in the system), going forward.
Good Look Chief, sounds like you are on your way. One last, google search "best roms for Evo", see what you come up with, I think there are 6 or 7 good custom roms out there now for the EVO, make sure they are ready for 2.2, but anyway, investigate the pro/cons of each rom before going forward.
Cya..
Thanks a lot you guys, you guys helped a lot!
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Best roms
Honestly, cyanogen is too unstable and you lose too much. It is very widely respected, but I do prefer ava v7 froyo. It has the battery life of fresh, and some great visual and app enhancements. Choose wisely. And, I cannot say it enough, NANDROID BACKUP! ! !
IDK how someone who actually had the patience to ROOT stock 2.2 (which looks very much like a pain in the ass to me!) is so clueless after having just completed that task? Wouldn't you have a few ideas in mind before you rooted your phone?
Thanks for the nice remarks. The reason I didn't look ahead because I wanted to see if I can root it or not. Once I was able to next step was to do creative stuff with it.
I hope you r satisfied
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I just ate a snickers bar, I feel very satisfied right now...
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Why can't you guys just answer his F'in question, a$$holes.
ken101, some thoughts.
Try these links to get more information.
http://smarterware.org/3189/why-and-how-to-root-your-android-phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
the procedure I followed to root my stock 2.2 EVO, basically you downgrade to 2.1, install unrevoke, upgrade to 2.2.
Here is a good one that goes through all the steps. NOTE: YOU WILL NOT FOLLOW this for your phone, but it gives you an idea of what you next steps are.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5214290
From the link above, research every step, so you learn the pros/cons. For example, why wipe my phone, do I need to, does the custom rom require it, what does wiping do.
AND remember, BACKUP FIRST, BACKUP FIRST, should I say that again.
When you rooted your phone, you installed a Recovery Mod, you should via SuperUser be able to boot into it. There is a feature called NANDROID, use it to backup your system and apps before you do anything else. You will then be able to use the same procedure to restore if you do something that breaks your phone (breaks as in the system), going forward.
Good Look Chief, sounds like you are on your way. One last, google search "best roms for Evo", see what you come up with, I think there are 6 or 7 good custom roms out there now for the EVO, make sure they are ready for 2.2, but anyway, investigate the pro/cons of each rom before going forward.
Cya..
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quick question ken 101, your evo came android 2.2 stock? before you rooted it
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So, a Huge thanks to all those who worked on the method to get 2.2 rooted. I followed the directions and I am here, rooted. I used the Amon_Ra for my recovery back to 2.2. Now, this might be a stupid question, but What now? My phone looks the same, and I still can't remove sprint stuff. What are the next steps, I know i can install a custom "higher speed ROM", but can i just work from where i am now? I have the Superuser icon, but when i open it, i get "no apps in list" ? what do i need to install to start taking advantage of all that rooting has to offer?
Thanks for your replies!!
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So, a Huge thanks to all those who worked on the method to get 2.2 rooted. I followed the directions and I am here, rooted. I used the Amon_Ra for my recovery back to 2.2. Now, this might be a stupid question, but What now? My phone looks the same, and I still can't remove sprint stuff. What are the next steps, I know i can install a custom "higher speed ROM", but can i just work from where i am now? how do i get that little superadministrator icon on my phone? what do i need to install to start taking advantage of all that rooting has to offer?
Thanks for your replies!!
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Choose a new fancy ROM, download it to your SD card and use Amon to flash it. Easy as pie.
They are many great ROMs from many great developers here. Everyone has their preferences, mine is Fresh. I've never been dissapointed.
Agreed.....I can tell a big difference in speed and battery life but now what? I also can't delete any of the Sprint bloatware and I am on Baked Sense 1.6.
I don't understand: Why would you root your phone if you don't even know what it does? Not trying to be a ****; I'm just saying.
Firstly, if you rooted, all you did was revert your phone back to 2.1 so you no longer have Froyo. (edit: nevermind.....I see you want back to 2.2; I'm guessing you flashed a 2.2 stock rooted rom to your phone). The superuser app is empty because it hasn't given superuser permission to any apps that require it. If you want to see your superuser app in action, download ShootMe or screenshot from the market, and you will see the app asks for superuser permission.
I rooted my phone because I thought it was ridiculous to pay Sprint $30 a month to use the wireless tether option that was built into the Evo by HTC and which I already paid for when I purchased the phone. Now I use my root privileges to do a lot more, but my point is that I had a reason to root my phone to begin with. Download wireless tether and try it.
If you want to uninstall apps, download Titanium Back up (that's what I use anyway) and go to town removing stuff. I am not sure if the free version removes apps or not because I got the paid one from the beginning, but now that you are rooted, it is well worth the price for the premium license. You can use this app to move stuff to your SD card and free up your phone's internal memory, too. You can also back up all your apps and system data which is handy when you flash from one rom to another and you have to do a full wipe of your phone.
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Agreed.....I can tell a big difference in speed and battery life but now what? I also can't delete any of the Sprint bloatware and I am on Baked Sense 1.6.
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Some of the ROMs have all that stuff removed for you, such as Fresh.
First thing to do: Head over to the developer forum and flash Netarchy's kernel, which will uncap your FPS. Do it ASAP, DO IT NAO!!!!1!!1!1!eleven. Then come back here and tell us how amazing it is.
thanks for the input
Thanks for all the replies! Rugedraw - i especially appreciate your indepth answer despite the fact that you are clearly somewhat annoyed by the question.
Here's the thing. The android revolution is ongoing and picking up steam. and i could talk about that all day long. Opensource, kick blackberry in the berry, and send apple back to where it was after its huge popularity boom in the 90s - struggling to overcome its fatal closed system flaw. Beyond that, I bought my Evo for 2 reasons. My 16 month son threw my blackberry into the toilet (nice work - i now appreciate it), and my tech guy at work has been raving about his rooted Droid x2. as of 10 days ago it didn't seem possible to root the 2.2 froyo, but he told be to be on the lookout. I figured this is a little like an arms race and that the sooner i rooted my phone when the method was avail. the better. (tech guy is in italy with his fiancee right now, or i would be asking him all these questions)
Soooo, it seemed to me, that in the spirit of owning an opensource device and joining the android revolution, that i should root my phone and unlock all the magic.
I'm no computer programming whiz, i dont write code, and i learned all of the terminology on this board in the last 2 days. So lost, but learning fast.
I did not root my phone for no reason. I clearly understand the utility of having superuser status (besides, most guys are wired to want that kinda thing regardless) - deleting annoying sprint apps that chew power, "re-tuning" the device to run more efficiently, and of course, free wifi tethering.
But, after completing the most excellent root method described in this forum, i found myself staring at a rooted 2.2 and wondering what the next step was. There are NO google results for "i've rooted my evo 4, now what?" so thats why i started this thread, figuring that I was not the only one in my situation
THAT enormously long winded explanation complete, I would love to aggregate the appropriate options in this thread. Method to wipe, list of Flash Roms for a rooted 2.2 EVO.
Again, thanks for all the replies,
btw what does "uncap your FPS" mean?
If you did unrevoked then I would flash the latest Amon-RA recovery image. No offense to clockworkmod, amon is just my preference.
Poke around the recovery console and learn how it works.
NAND FIRST!! haha, develop that habit before you flash anything (roms, kernels, etc.), just in case
-Flash a rom that suits your needs. Read their OP's and threads to learn what they are about and what the people that use them think. I would suggest you just flash the stock rooted 2.2, play with it for a week or two to see how root works and explore what you can do with it. Also look into backup methods so you are familiar with how to preserve your stuff when you flash a different rom.
FPS = frames per second. There are kernels that will lift the 30fps cap.
Read about kernels and how to take advantage of them.
I know I've been pretty general, just pick a trail and start walking, when you have questions ask em
I like your logic of titling the thread exactly what you searched for, usin yer brains to make this thread more beneficial to the next guy (imagine a thumbs-up smiley here)
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First thing to do: Head over to the developer forum and flash Netarchy's kernel, which will uncap your FPS. Do it ASAP, DO IT NAO!!!!1!!1!1!eleven. Then come back here and tell us how amazing it is.
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It is highly recommended that you do what he says! You'll see a major improvement in lots of areas. In case you're curious here is my setup: STOCK 2.2 w/ Netarchy kernal. I chose the stock 2.2 so that I may do with it what I like. It's very fast and very stable.
monetmonet said:
So, a Huge thanks to all those who worked on the method to get 2.2 rooted. I followed the directions and I am here, rooted. I used the Amon_Ra for my recovery back to 2.2. Now, this might be a stupid question, but What now? My phone looks the same, and I still can't remove sprint stuff. What are the next steps, I know i can install a custom "higher speed ROM", but can i just work from where i am now? I have the Superuser icon, but when i open it, i get "no apps in list" ? what do i need to install to start taking advantage of all that rooting has to offer?
Thanks for your replies!!
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You can remove Sprint stuff, just have to spend some time and learn to use ADB. Rooting an EVO is not the same as rooting an iPhone, you can pretty much do everything you can from rooting an iPhone without even rooting Android so the difference is not that great.
Most of what you gain from rooting Android is being able to do things the carrier doesn't wan't you to do such as install free wifi tethering, remove their apps etc... You can also install others roms where they have already done this stuff for you but from what I have seen on the EVO and 2.2 battery life suffers greatly on pretty much any rom other than stock rooted so there is a lot to be gained from learning adb and just working with the stock rooted rom to remove the apps you wan't to.
I'm in the same boat. I got my new EVO on Tuesday, it was rooted an hour later. Why? Because that's how we do things! First thing for me it was important to have tethering. Work blocks damned near everything. As I learn more about the Android system I'll get more use out of root.
I was carefully paying attention to the thread and particularly bluehaze's answer. I'd like to learn more about using adb to remove sprint crap. That amazon app is always restarting itself. If there an ADB for newbs guide around here anywhere? I looked but didn't see.
There are a few things that I use which make root a necessity.
- custom ROMs provide a setup more tailored to what you are personally looking for
- using wireless tethering without being artificially limited to Sprint's commercial offering
- backups! I can boot into recovery and make a backup image of my setup at any point. That way no matter what settings I change or what ROMs I test out, I can always go right back to my stable daily driver in 5 minutes if needed.
- custom recovery and superuser allow you to install things, uninstall things, theme things, etc. Nothing worse than not being able to change something on my own device
- speed, battery, etc. via tweaked kernels. I'm using Baked Snack's ROM and kernel now and it's way faster and nicer on battery than stock
nOObs need love too
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...There are NO google results for "i've rooted my evo 4, now what?" ...
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Now there is...thanks. My Google search on those words led me here. I've been lurking on these boards since I got my EVO a while ago, but I haven't had the guts to root until right now, 2nite, it's happening... I'll be back soon with my *new and improved* phone.
Whoo! Good Luck!
Indeed, you'll be a flash addict in no time. You may want to check out the link in my sig - it points to my post in a more recent version of this thread, with more current and relevant information throughout. Good luck!
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I searched the exact same thing in google 'cept im on an x10, this thread looks like a good place to start
New guy...
Same here, I just rooted my Evo today and everything seems to be working great. But I'm clueless on how to put a rom on to my sd card so I can flash it to my evo.
Can any one send me a link to a basic how to..
Thanks
Rich
I want to Root my Evo,but i have no idea if i will be able to get my gingerbread or even honeycomb OTA update.
i really dont know how to do manually updates,i dont know if its even hard to do.
What is a good/reliable team to get my rooting access from?
in Mind is the UnrEVOked team.
please give me your opinions to help me make the right decisions.
and threads or anything useful for me to have.
If you stay on the stock ROM you should still be able to get ota's but you might loose your root. The cooked ROMs will be updated usually before the official updates are even rolled out, and most likely tweaked and improved. I wouldn't even worry about sprints updates. As far as choosing a ROM, just read through the development forum and read what the ROM offers and the comments through the thread of users reporting bugs (if any) and opinions of performance. Baked snack, CM, and fresh seem to be the most popular and stable. Start with one of those. I used calkulin and frost, both work well too if you like vanilla Android, fresh was the only sense ROM I used and it was very nice. Its all about what look you want and customization. Thats the beauty of Android.
There are plenty of tutorials on the process, read the useful threads and links thread. Thats a good place to start. When ROMs get updated just flash over the previous unless the dev says a wipe is needed, which is rare.
I mean I love my sense. I can't go on without the beautiful widgets it comes with.
Plus the upgrade they're doing for sense is coming out soon.
But I need to know if a custom recovery is the same as a custom Rom.
I am thinking of doing Unrevoked because its the only one I know that does 2.2 root. Please give me links!
Thanks for the massive help tho.
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I mean I love my sense. I can't go on without the beautiful widgets it comes with.
Plus the upgrade they're doing for sense is coming out soon.
But I need to know if a custom recovery is the same as a custom Rom.
I am thinking of doing Unrevoked because its the only one I know that does 2.2 root. Please give me links!
Thanks for the massive help tho.
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Custom recovery will either be "R.A." or "ClockworkMod." They are a little different from each other. People usually use R.A. They say that clockworkmod doesn't delete cache right, but I personally use clockwork. What a recovery is, is a menu outside the phones system that allows you to install flashable zips. It also allows you to wipe anything, format anything and create & restore nandroid back ups.
There are tons of Roms. Roms are the system of your phone. Usually flashed from the SD card.
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If you do unrevoked forever, you won't lose root when you accept an OTA.
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If you do unrevoked forever, you won't lose root when you accept an OTA.
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The one thing i have seen is that if you root and use unrevoked forever then you can't accept OTA's either, i have seen this with alot of people including myself, not sure why, but you can download the OTA, but it will not upack, literally, as you start it just freeze's up within the first mintues, and no matter how many times you try, it won't take.
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The one thing i have seen is that if you root and use unrevoked forever then you can't accept OTA's either, i have seen this with alot of people including myself, not sure why, but you can download the OTA, but it will not upack, literally, as you start it just freeze's up within the first mintues, and no matter how many times you try, it won't take.
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Hmm... I haven't heard of that but don't doubt it.
The thing is, the devs here usually get their hands on OTAs before they are rolled out, then they make them better and package them into their ROMs. I see no reason to even care about receiving OTAs at all, tbqh
Well i was reading about it and from what I gathered up.
It tells me that if you have a custom Rom you aren't able to accept OTAs,I don't wanna manually update my phone. I don't even know how.
But I need to know of a custom recovery with disable me from getting OTAs,help?
If I should use any custom recovery or any team who should I get my root from? I have a unrooted 2.2 sense.
I need a guide and video tutorial,ha.
I'm on my girls MAC,so no windows stuff please.
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Referring to your original post here, I wouldn't root until you are fully comfortable with getting down and dirty with your phone. You say you don't want to or even know how to manually update your phone, well that is Android 101. If you aren't fully familiar with everything that rooting entails (custom recoveries, kernels, ROMs, SU permissions) then you need to keep reading. I spent weeks reading everything I could find before I rooted my phone and I suggest doing the same so you don't potentially fark things up.
Read the wiki, read through the rooting threads in development and really try and build a full understanding of what you're doing before you make the leap.
Well I've rooted my g1 way back then. But I know its not the same concept anymore,but they really never had an update it was just 1.6 so yeah.
I just want OTAs still.
Does any one know what is an Nandroid?
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I agree with _MetalHead_ . You really need to read more on rooting, ROMS (and in the process, you'll learn about Nandroid!) before proceeding. I also spent weeks reading and then I didn't go full root - just enough to get wireless tether. Then, I read some more. There are some incredibly helpful people here as well as some incredibly rude people.
While unrevoked can get you started, learn adb and get comfortable pulling and pushing apks. Get very comfortable with Nandroid because it's going to save you.
My lessons learned are 1) NEVER accept an OTA update because it can take devs a long while to gain root, and 2) be patient and NEVER pull the battery while the Evo is doing something - like updating.
I use apk files already and unrooted.
And thank you very helpful.
PLEASE someone tell me what Nandroid is.
And sites where I can learn about rooting all together.
What do I need to look for?
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A nandroid backup can be done from the recovery screen and it essentially backs up your phone EXACTLY as it is when you run it. So if you want to change something, you nandroid backup (which includes contacts, themes, settings, everything) and if your change doesn't work out, you can boot into recovery and restore your nandroid backup.
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The one thing i have seen is that if you root and use unrevoked forever then you can't accept OTA's either, i have seen this with alot of people including myself, not sure why, but you can download the OTA, but it will not upack, literally, as you start it just freeze's up within the first mintues, and no matter how many times you try, it won't take.
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Just did a little research. The reason why the updates won't take is because of the custom recovery. You need to flash a stock recovery in order to accept updates. It's on Unrevoked's website.
I use apk files already and unrooted.
And thank you very helpful.
PLEASE someone tell me what Nandroid is.
And sites where I can learn about rooting all together.
What do I need to look for?
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Google is your friend. Nandroid is a way to backup and restore your phone.
I already posted the link to the wiki, that is the first place you should start. Next, read through a lot of rooting threads in the development forum here on xda. If you still have questions use the forum's search tool and use google. You gotta do the legwork.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Nandroid+Backup
this should help... teach a man to fish...
Hi, I have the desire, and well I'm board with it, I want to mess around with different roms like miui, gingerbread extra. But I don't understand, please could someone help me with some of my questions? Thank :
1) What are the chances of breaking it through rooting, and what could happen, and would should you do it it does happen?
2) what does bricked mean, and is there away of unbricking?
1) what do you do if a bad rom breaks?
1.5) what are the chances of things going wrong?
2) Can you have more than one rom installed at a time, and switch between them, a bit like you can with launchers, and uses the same apps and data on those roms?
2.5) Is unrevoked the best way to root?
3) I you can have more than one rom, can you have a gingerbread rom, side loaded with a froyo from?
4) How do you switch between the roms?
5)Does rooting affect battery life?
6) Using unrevoked, is there anyway to unroot?
7) where do you find roms, and does the rom manager in the market allow you to install them without flashing?
8)Is there a good htc sense hd or gingerbread rom that works well?
9) With different roms increase the speed of the device, like the n1 is faster than the desire, yet they have the same hardware?
I know that a lot of questions but i am really nervousness about this and I can't seem to find todate answerers to these questions. If someone could help me with these questions I would be very great full, as I want to get more our of my device. Thanks ( I know there are a lot of rooting threads, but I really need to find out as much as i can before I undergo this, I love my desire too much to allow it to break when there was something that i could have done)
There is a remote chance (0.00000001%) of anything going wrong as long as you follow the steps to the rooting process and S-Off. If you become bricked then there is a topic on how to unbrick.
Easiest and best way to root is to using unrevoked 3.32. Make sure you download the HBoot drivers from their website. After rooting, it is also good to make your device S-Off'd. Your able to flash HBoot templates to change partition sizes and also change the splash and remove system apps and so on.
You can only have 1 rom installed at a time. You have to flash roms as well, that's how you install them and other zip files through the recovery. If a rom breaks, you can just flash it again. Installing a rom takes 5 mins, if that really.
You find roms in the Android Dev section. You can use Rom Manager but you have to pay or something.
You can have a fast rom or a "slower" rom. It depends on how it's been built and stuff but also the kernel can help to speed things up. (Speed isn't always the answer). There is no best or crappiest rom either. It's best to test many out for yourself.
Battery life again depends on the rom and the kernel.
Things To Download
To root a device
To S-Off your device
Roms and alsort of other nice things
Hope this helps you out.
Thanks very much , but do you need to install "S-Off" as I don't quite understand what it does, and which one to download and how to install it. Thanks
You don't need to install S-Off after a root. S-Off just allows you to do more things like uninstall system apps, change the splash screen, change the HBoot (not quite sure what else). If your not going to be doing them sort of things then stay away from it.
When you root, the unrevoked utility roots it and changes the recovery to ClockworkMod 2.5.1.8. That recovery allows you to boot into it and install roms through it. It has a menu and you use your optical tracker to navigate through them. That is how you install different roms.
With the roms, you need to see which one you like. I've been through almost all of them and I have one I stick to now. I can't say which is the best, that's for you to decide. The Gingerbread roms are Android 2.3 and I THINK, emphasis on the THINK, that the rest of the roms are Android 2.2.
I think at first your like, oh what if I mess things up and stuff but you won't if you follow instructions. When I first did it, I completely messed up and couldn't even boot into a rom at all and was wondering how to sort it out. I got there in the end but still. I also forgot to mention, if you want the stock rom back, you can install one of the RUU's. It will wipe everything and you will have to root again, but you will have stock.
Thanks very much , when change roms will you lose all of your apps, and data?
Yes. When your changing roms, you have to erase all data. It is a must and everything will go, apps, user data including texts and contacts, EVERYTHING!!!.
Thanks so much for all your help, i'm going to do it now, and use cyanogen mod 7 or 6.x. Thanks again
No worries. If you get stuck, just message me or something.
Completely IGNORE S-OFF if you're a n00b, it shouldn't be recommended to anyone who:
1. Doesn't know what it is
2. Doesn't actually need it
Concentrate on rooting and running a custom ROM first
Not actually true. When I S-Off'd my Desire, I didn't have a bloody clue, other than it disables all security, what it was. You eventually learn things like I did and read a little more. S-Off is a great tool to have on your phone because it gives you all the more freedom to do what ever you want with your device. I will say for all the "n00bs" out there that if you are S-Off'ing then please read it all carefully, unlike me because I could have messed it all up.
You were lucky - better to learn first, do second
I saw recently a wiped imei which made me cautious
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Thanks for all you help, I have rooted and now have a custom rom (cm 6.1). Thanks
EddyOS said:
Completely IGNORE S-OFF if you're a n00b
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I would add that if you're a n00b, don't even try to get your device rooted!
Lothaen said:
I saw recently a wiped imei which made me cautious
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I would ask if that's even possbile. Apparently it is.
Delete the efs storage without a backup... doh
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I had a stock Desire and wouldn't move from it. Then the niggles in the current build just annoyed me enough to actually go down the root route (see what I did there? )
So I rooted and after a few mishaps along the way (make backups of everything, phone and SD card, especially if you partition it!) I am very happy with my Ginger Villain ROM. A few things still niggle (Me avatar in texts blank, phone reboots randomly to name a few), but its not as bad as it used to be. I can live without Sense as well surprisingly enough.
I also did the same for a friend, and stuck them on LeeDroid 2.3d and as they are technically challenged, it works for them sweet as.
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I had a stock Desire and wouldn't move from it. Then the niggles in the current build just annoyed me enough to actually go down the root route (see what I did there? )
So I rooted and after a few mishaps along the way (make backups of everything, phone and SD card, especially if you partition it!) I am very happy with my Ginger Villain ROM. A few things still niggle (Me avatar in texts blank, phone reboots randomly to name a few), but its not as bad as it used to be. I can live without Sense as well surprisingly enough.
I also did the same for a friend, and stuck them on LeeDroid 2.3d and as they are technically challenged, it works for them sweet as.
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Haha that made me laugh. As for your contact icon of yourself, you need to add yourself. Your own number and name and then you can add a picture. Yes it is annoying a little because Android natively doesn't have like a "contact card" for yourself.
Rooting and S-Off is the best thing I did by far
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Haha that made me laugh. As for your contact icon of yourself, you need to add yourself. Your own number and name and then you can add a picture. Yes it is annoying a little because Android natively doesn't have like a "contact card" for yourself.
Rooting and S-Off is the best thing I did by far
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bump creates a contact card for yourself...
right at the top of the phonebook called 'My Contact Card'
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bump creates a contact card for yourself...
right at the top of the phonebook called 'My Contact Card'
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Odd, I don't have that, I had it in the Sense UI, not on the stock Ginger Villain ROM, unless I am missing something ...
Alright, so I have honestly looked every where and read as much as I can.
I have a Rooted EVO with the stock ROM. I really want to update to Gingerbread but am very confused. I do not want to lose my rooted status and I do not want a ROM with a bunch of MODS. I just want a simple stock ROM with Gingerbread and Root access. Is this possible. I am confused by everything I read and do not want to brick my phone.
Will updating my phone with the OTA while Rooted ruin my phone? Will I be able to keep my root status?
Thanks!
everythingtonothing.com said:
Alright, so I have honestly looked every where and read as much as I can.
I have a Rooted EVO with the stock ROM. I really want to update to Gingerbread but am very confused. I do not want to lose my rooted status and I do not want a ROM with a bunch of MODS. I just want a simple stock ROM with Gingerbread and Root access. Is this possible. I am confused by everything I read and do not want to brick my phone.
Will updating my phone with the OTA while Rooted ruin my phone? Will I be able to keep my root status?
Thanks!
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Lol wow dude you're gonna get flammed but ya just download one of the stock roms on here there are about 4 of them posted with the new gb update from sprint. Just download and flash via recovery also update your radio, Wimax, etc its pretty easy
Edit: here's a link to a completely stock gb update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038701
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OMG.....Great Rom..Still has brightness bug though, can you plze fix. Battery life is great.
On a Serious Note: Is The Search button not working?
On a Side Note: The Noob video needs to be played on login to all members that dont have a post count of at least 40. Even if they signed up before the rule.
ThatSmartB0y said:
OMG.....Great Rom..Still has brightness bug though, can you plze fix. Battery life is great.
On a Serious Note: Is The Search button not working?
On a Side Note: The Noob video needs to be played on login to all members that dont have a post count of at least 15. Even if they signed up before the rule.
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Lol ya I felt bad for him so I helped out a little but I really wish people would read
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There are two different rooted versions (with very minor modifications) of the new stock Gingerbread ROM (anything with the labeled "Sense" is based on HTC's ROM's, though some of them are based on ROM's from other phones), both on the first page of threads in this forum. Look for "4.22.651.2" in the thread subject--and yes, those will keep your phone rooted and S-OFF. I believe there's a third thread with a method of updating without a flash, and yet another with minor modifications to the stock ROM (the Titanium-X ROM).
By contrast, anything that says "AOSP" is based on the Android Open Source Project, and therefore quite different from an HTC ROM, though all functions work on many of them (but there is some debate on how well the various radios work on AOSP ROM's).
Okay maybe I had that coming or maybe I just didn't phrase the question right.
I looked at the page linked above before I posted this and I read it all and still was confused. I guess I am looking for the idiots guide to doing this. I don't feel confident enough on my own.
I DID read, ALOT, and I looked at all the posts that are suggested when posting a new thread.
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Okay maybe I had that coming or maybe I just didn't phrase the question right.
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They are referring to the fact that this thread is for development only. For future reference you can avoid being flamed by posting in the Q&A section.
Don't worry to much about these guys, they lurk and jump at the chance to show off their supremacy over noobs.
Another word of advice would be to hit the thanks button for mtknife for his helpful and humble response.
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Alright will do!
I thought the Q&A was for other basic questions. My error.
Do you have the latest recovery installed of RA or Clockwork ?
I have clockwork i believe. I just did what I think is a nandroid backup, I went into recovery and did backup.
That's always smart so you are doing good so far. What you want to do now is download the zip file and place it on your SD card. You can download it directly on your phone if its easier for you (wifi recommended). Just follow the link posted by dodgerbluehero above and I would recommend starting with the odexed version.
Now go into recovery and choose flash from zip - then - choose zip on SD card. Navigate to the downloaded file and hit the power button to select it and again to confirm. It can take a few minutes to write the files so just leave it alone. It will tell you when it's done and you can reboot.
These instructions are from my memory but should be pretty close. You would typically want to wipe but the dev says not to worry about it if you are coming from a stock rom.
Give it a shot, you will be fine. Pm me if you have any questions because the mods will probably close this thread soon. Good luck!
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what confuses me is where it says "firmware". Do I still have to install that or just the ROM??
The firmware is optional. You can install the rom and then decide if you want to flash the radio as well afterwards.
After you flash, the first boot sometimes takes a little while. Just let it do it's thing. You will be happily surprised how easy this actually is to do.
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but what benefit does it have? is the radio i have not as good?
Some people get better results with signal/3g speeds/wimax. The consensus seems to be that it varies by phone and area.
You can flash the rom without also flashing the radio and be just fine. Stop worrying and take the leap.
On the other hand this may not be for you.
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Well I appreciate the time you spent explaining it. I just don't have the money to buy a new phone if I brick it. I rooted my phone on my own but never did any rom updates. I am going to try it once it downloads. Thank you again.
Oh one more thing, be sure that your phone has plenty of charge to make it through the flash and restart or that could lead to bricking your phone.
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augy said:
Oh one more thing, be sure that your phone has plenty of charge to make it through the flash and restart or that could lead to bricking your phone.
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Agreed, at this point in the game, that's about the only way to brick your phone. It's one of my personal favorite little jokes when clockworkmod asks me are you sure? This cannot be undone! Darn near everything can be fixed thanks to this awesome community!
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Thanks to everyone for keeping this going it has helped me so much. One quick question I have installed the ROM and the firmware but I see in the apps things like the blockbuster app and wanted to remove it. I cant seem to uninstall it so I thought it wasn't rooted properly. I tried using Unrevoked3 on it but it failed stating
Error: failed to get root. Is your firmware too new?
am I forgetting something simple or do I have to try and downgrade the firmware?
Thanks,
dmort said:
Thanks to everyone for keeping this going it has helped me so much. One quick question I have installed the ROM and the firmware but I see in the apps things like the blockbuster app and wanted to remove it. I cant seem to uninstall it so I thought it wasn't rooted properly. I tried using Unrevoked3 on it but it failed stating
Error: failed to get root. Is your firmware too new?
am I forgetting something simple or do I have to try and downgrade the firmware?
Thanks,
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I think I recall seeing something about that error on the unrevoked website. I'm out and about right now but I'll check on it when I get home, but in the meantime if you wanna do some digging, I'd start there
Got the S3 and rooted it but now I need to know why I rooted it. I know, I'm dumb. But this thread is just packed with too many things to learn anything. It's Jelly Bean frost this, JB fire this. I can't even learn what any of it is. Somebody please tell me what I should do with my rooted phone but first tell me what ROMS and all that other stuff is.
So you can delete bloatware and backup stuff.
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Got the S3 and rooted it but now I need to know why I rooted it. I know, I'm dumb. But this thread is just packed with too many things to learn anything. It's Jelly Bean frost this, JB fire this. I can't even learn what any of it is. Somebody please tell me what I should do with my rooted phone but first tell me what ROMS and all that other stuff is.
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Read the stickies in this forum and the rom descriptions.
You root because you want complete control over your technology. You root because of lackluster performance from stock software. You root because a company wants to limit you on the potential and fun you can have.
If you're not a technologist and have no desire to experiment and push the limits of your device then you shouldn't root in the first place.
You root your phone to over clock, under clock, under volt, themes, roms, radios, debloat, etc.
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Crisisx1 said:
You root your phone to over clock, under clock, under volt, themes, roms, radios, debloat, etc.
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Whats ROMS and radios?
TomTcom said:
Read the stickies in this forum and the rom descriptions.
You root because you want complete control over your technology. You root because of lackluster performance from stock software. You root because a company wants to limit you on the potential and fun you can have.
If you're not a technologist and have no desire to experiment and push the limits of your device then you shouldn't root in the first place.
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I can't find anything to do because this forum is nothing but a clustered, pack, load of too many things.
This was 3 or 4 threads below this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900345
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I can't find anything to do because this forum is nothing but a clustered, pack, load of too many things.
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Go into the developer forum. Lots of good info there. I spent several months researching and reading everything to determine the best route for me and what I wanted to accomplish and what was important for me. The definitions you seek are in many posts and several definitions are universal to each phone. Research man, research!
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Got the S3 and rooted it but now I need to know why I rooted it. I know, I'm dumb. But this thread is just packed with too many things to learn anything. It's Jelly Bean frost this, JB fire this. I can't even learn what any of it is. Somebody please tell me what I should do with my rooted phone but first tell me what ROMS and all that other stuff is.
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The main and what I consider biggest reason for rooting is being able to back up any and all info and apps. The very first thing I would do after gaining root is make sure you have a custom recovery installed and do a full nandroid backup, either CWM touch or TWRP. Both of those are very easy to install, for the CWM just get Rom Manager from the play store and flash recovery from the app, or for TWRP get GooManager from the store and again flash from the app.
Second would be to install Titanium Backup and back up all your apps.
Once you've done both of those steps you should get Terminal Emulator from the store and read and follow these directions:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/32397-tutorial-imei-backup-nv-with-qpst-us-variants/
This will be your 3rd backup and you should now be able to recover from any type of issue unless you completely brick your phone.
AFTER all this you can think about flashing a new rom, as for which one I would read the OP carefully and figure out what you are looking for. Do you want a cutting edge, completely up to date rom with jellybean, a 100% stable, bug free rom, a "pretty" rom, etc.
If you cant find anything in these threads after the help you've gotten here then it's hopeless.
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