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Benefits of rooting SGS i9000

Why should the average user take the risk?

The "Average" user shouldn't in my view. Original firmware is pretty stable so there's no immediate need for custom ROMS or removal of shipped apps.

dan 6a said:
Why should the average user take the risk?
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An average user shouldn't, but it can be fun to have a proper play with the device!
ash99 said:
The "Average" user shouldn't in my view. Original firmware is pretty stable so there's no immediate need for custom ROMS or removal of shipped apps.
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You must admit there's some crap shipped apps installed on it, like most of the Live Wallpaper, widgets and Layar.

damianarnold said:
An average user shouldn't, but it can be fun to have a proper play with the device!
You must admit there's some crap shipped apps installed on it, like most of the Live Wallpaper, widgets and Layar.
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True, but if Average user uninstalls the wrong thing ..... Average user is gonna brick his phone .... Whoops !
But yeah if average user can brush up his technical skills then theres some fun to be had !

ash99 said:
But yeah if average user can brush up his technical skills then theres some fun to be had !
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lOl

For example here in Finland you need to root your Android to get Android Market for example..

It is possible to set the higher priority of some tasks? Like LauncherPro. It would react more responsible when there are another apps running with high cpu usage.
also i would like to set the priority to low of a task which installs applications from market, so the phone is more usable.
Would it be possible?
hope you got my english

rkantos said:
For example here in Finland you need to root your Android to get Android Market for example..
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Are you serious? They don't allow you access to the android market by default?

INeedYourHelp said:
Are you serious? They don't allow you access to the android market by default?
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You only get the free side without rooting.
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rkantos said:
For example here in Finland you need to root your Android to get Android Market for example..
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So does Market enabler work on the i9000?

ME works like a charm

What if I root my phone and samsung releases a new firmware.
Can I update the firmware without any issues, and will I still have root after such an upgrade?

If you gained Root with Flashing the csc file from Leshak, you simply dont flash the csc file of the new firmware and you will still have root.

FrezoreR said:
What if I root my phone and samsung releases a new firmware.
Can I update the firmware without any issues, and will I still have root after such an upgrade?
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The way Samsung handles updates is they are released in odin packages. To install these roms that are in these odins packages you must have the odin program that will install it onto your phone. The problem is that this will wipe out all your settings and apps on your phone. You could try using a backup and for your apps and settings but they don't always work when your upgrading.
Also in regards to the initial question remember you wont have wifi-tether or a huge choice of custom roms (no sense roms, no early Froyo roms). Those two reasons alone have drawn me away from Samsung. I would rather get a HTC Aria then this locked down phone.

psychoace said:
The way Samsung handles updates is they are released in odin packages. To install these roms that are in these odins packages you must have the odin program that will install it onto your phone. The problem is that this will wipe out all your settings and apps on your phone. You could try using a backup and for your apps and settings but they don't always work when your upgrading.
Also in regards to the initial question remember you wont have wifi-tether or a huge choice of custom roms (no sense roms, no early Froyo roms). Those two reasons alone have drawn me away from Samsung. I would rather get a HTC Aria then this locked down phone.
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What? No custom roms?? Why not!? :|
Still I really love this phone, think I'll get it anyway. Little bit sad that we cannot get custom roms, are you 100% sure of this?

No I said you won't get a huge choice of custom roms. Every Rom will be based off of what Samsung releases
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What? That doesn't make sense. There are already custom roms for the galaxy s. And they are in the form of an update.zip
It looks like samsung has released a real customizable device, easily rooted and a recovery that allows any update.zip without checking for checksums..
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Laum said:
You only get the free side without rooting.
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Same here in China. We can only view the free contents without rooting our phone.

oxylos said:
It is possible to set the higher priority of some tasks? Like LauncherPro. It would react more responsible when there are another apps running with high cpu usage.
also i would like to set the priority to low of a task which installs applications from market, so the phone is more usable.
Would it be possible?
hope you got my english
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Do you mean that we cannot use Launcherpro without rooting the phone? That is a awesome launcher. I think it is even better than there original launcher in the Galaxy S.

lianglqufo said:
Do you mean that we cannot use Launcherpro without rooting the phone? That is a awesome launcher. I think it is even better than there original launcher in the Galaxy S.
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No you can use launcherpro just fine without rooting the phone BUT you won't be able to connect to Kies while launcherpro is set as default. So just use a program like home switcher to temporarily set it back to samsungs launcher if you need to connect to Kies.

Bought apps missing after Froyo-OTA

Hi all,
I am missing several apps I bought from app market after the HTC Froyo update. As a example I am able to find free versions of NoteEverything, Tapatalk and Documents To Go, but my paid versions seem to be gone...
Anyone having the same issue???

Reboot your phone.
I fixed that way. Simple

No, not really.
The apps are gone from the android market! I can see and download the free versions. But I cannot see and download the paid versions from android market.
Did not have them installed when I was updating....

Can you give some examples?
I can see some paid apps in the Market ... Probably not all, but ...

Oh yeah, that's true!
I found some of mine are not listed:
- Devilry Huntress
- CaligoChaser
- Raging Thunder
Well, it looks we need to play a waiting game again I happened before :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=665742
And before that (Legend) ... and before that (Hero) ... ... ...
This is "normal" for new update ...
So, be patient ... probably another 2 weeks

I did name some in the first post. At least I am missing paid versions of
- NoteEverything
- Tapatalk Pro
- Documents To Go
while I can find the free versions of all three apps.

National Rail is still installed on my phone but doesn't show in the market whatsoever, even if I search for it.
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Bought national rail last week but can't find it on market to reinstall it??
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exactly the same problem here, I think we just need to wait

Market fix is out for Froyo Official rooted update. Oh wait you did the OTA instead of waiting 3 hours and getting the rooted version.
You'll have to wait for google .........

Yeps same here:
- no more raging thunder 2
- magic gem
- Caligo chaser

Have any one try browsing the your download apps? from the market you should have a tab for your downloads. If the tab is not there then from the market click on menu then select downloads. This should have all the downloads on your account.. good look

Some paid apps missing for me as well on my rooted version of the OTA ROM. The hack doesn't work either.
Slingbox is the most obvious omission
Tried a phone reset and still not there.

My app isn't even listed in the market but is still on my phone. I know its not removed as I did an update on it the other day. I just hope I never have to reset my phone as I'd lose my app for good.
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radio time missing for a few people.
I have it on the phone, but its not listed anymore as a paid app or available to download.

Reflashed back to a pre-OTA Froyo ROM and my apps are back.
HTC, thats a bit of a cockup isn't it?

It's not HTC it's google they have to update the market to recognise Froyo 2.2 for your location and device. Complain to them.

Should You Use a Task Killer?

Decided to write an article about task killer use, mainly because of so many people being surprised that i do not recommend it, after their so called techy friends told them they need one, I'll post the opening paragraph with a link to the rest of it.
Task killer, one of the most prominent words within the android world. One that causes many arguments and confusion, well today lets see if we can put it all to rest.
I am constantly surprised when talking to new android owners that come to me with questions about their "faulty" phone and "poor-performing" battery, to discover that one of the first apps they installed was a task killer. Even more surprised when I dig deeper and ask why, with one of the top responses being because their "techy" friend said its a vital app. First things first, anything vital will be a core part of the the operating system. If google required that a task killer be a core part of their os, they would have included an easy way to kill apps, end of. Also, if your "techy" friend told you to download an task killer, please, ignore any advice from them in the future, you will regret it if you don't.
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Android Guide: Should I Use a Task Killer - Droid Den

You start off by saying you don't need one and then you say you do and even recommend one!
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themikeyboosh said:
You start off by saying you don't need one and then you say you do and even recommend one!
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maybe you should read it again more carefully the paragrah your on about was simply laying out some reasons why you may need a task killer

themikeyboosh said:
You start off by saying you don't need one and then you say you do and even recommend one!
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system panel is not a task killer mate, its a tool to help you identify bad apples. That is the reason for that apps existence, just ask its dev.

I read yr thread. I'm not so experienced in the systems. But i think this thread is following a good logic, and the systems at the end are all about logic.....
So, first thing i do after finish reading was killing the task killers.
Thanks again for the post.
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Excellent article mate keep up your good work.
Many many people are brainwashed by many misleading reviews on Google in to thinking they need a task manager but this article explains nicely why they dont.
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System panel is a good solution. Try also power tutor, if it works with your phone

AndroHero said:
maybe you should read it again more carefully the paragrah your on about was simply laying out some reasons why you may need a task killer
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No no, I've read it, it's plain as day. You've just said it again.
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system panel is not a task killer mate, its a tool to help you identify bad apples. That is the reason for that apps existence, just ask its dev.
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Does it kill tasks? Need I go on.....It doesn't matter how you jazz it up "pal" there's no denying it can be used to kill tasks.

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themikeyboosh said:
Does it kill tasks? Need I go on.....It doesn't matter how you jazz it up "pal" there's no denying it can be used to kill tasks.
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lol? Do you honestly not understand?
There are apps out there that are coded badly.
In order to remove those apps you first need to id them.
SystemPanel helps you find out which app is causing a problem.
Then you may uninstall that app.
Nothing about using it as a task killer in there.
Does that help? I could try to put it in simpler terms if not.

I only use a task killer when I want to run some benchmarks shortly after having played around with resource-intensive apps like games.Other than that only as mentioned in the article,to trace and kill bad or frozen apps.Any other use is only harmful.

Very good article. It should be sticked.
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I don't use a task killer with my HTC Desire. But back in the day with 1.5 and 1.6 I needed a task killer. Now 2.1 or higher doesn't need one.

for sure, higher memory and more efficient android definitely does not need one.

"Android is smart enough to recognise when it is running low on available memory, and will start to close those apps that it deems are low priority."
Then pls tell me why after opening more and more apps my desire gets slower as it is running out of memory, and after killing them with task killer except for the one im using its running smoothly again. I would love to stick with the android solution, but its just not working out...
Rooted Desire S-Off running latest Redux Rom (Gingerbread)

At first I thought a task killer was making my battery life longer - but I tried it again a couple of months after using Android - just to see if it impact battery life and found no difference - or not noticable anyway on day-to-day use.

Thanks for this, very informative. Defo should be a sticky

[Q] Android Market: What is your Market version?

Today I found this news:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/10/android-market-new-country-roll-out.html
In particular:
"For users to make a purchase of paid apps in these countries, they must have the latest Android Market client, which we have started to make available as a self-update and should reach all users within the next few days. This is a silent update; users will not see a notification and will not be prompted to do anything."
Then I found this:
http://market.android.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=190860
And its say the latest market version is 2.07..I tried that procedure, but why my Market version is just 1.82?
So I'm curious to know what is your market version on the Desire?
****EDIT 22 Nov****: Market version is now 2.12!

No one interested on Market updates?

Mine says 1.82 as well, Debranded WWE FroYo.

Luggworm said:
Mine says 1.82 as well, Debranded WWE FroYo.
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Mine says exactly the same, but I am able to see paid apps also so why is the update for. I am trying to update it as the link you sent but seems not to work

No, it doesn't seem to work. Seems an odd way to make an app update itself too.

_thalamus said:
No, it doesn't seem to work. Seems an odd way to make an app update itself too.
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Market is only for displaying apps. Actual Market updater app is separate.

Can you share your Android market.apk ?
Beacuse my app force close at downloading
Please

Market 2.0.7 in for me, link provided.
Hi I'm in Singapore and I have market version 2.0.7.
Stock Froyo.
APK here!:
http://db.tt/L1ZB7DL
Market apk (com.android.vending)
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Edit: I figured out what this update does. Those on 1.8 with paid apps AND in countries which has JUST gotten paid apps only have a top free and just in tab. This one adds top paid. (compared to my friends x10 mini). U can see paid apps in 1.8 but can't see top paid.
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I reside in Bahrain. (No paid apps, I guess)
Market Version 1.82. The updater doesn't seem to run, either.

dawo5010 said:
Hi I'm in Singapore and I have market version 2.0.7.
Stock Froyo.
http://db.tt/L1ZB7DL
Market apk (com.android.vending)
Edit: I figured out what this update does. Those on 1.8 with paid apps AND in countries which has JUST gotten paid apps only have a top free and just in tab. This one adds top paid. (compared to my friends x10 mini). U can see paid apps in 1.8 but can't see top paid.
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I am on 1.82 and can see top paid top free and just in. So I dont think that is what the update really does.

Must be my friend's x10 then.
But wait... are you from one of the countries that JUST got paid apps? There's a reason why I capitalized the AND. Because the market update was intended by Google to allow those in other countries to get paid apps. So those in countries like mine would get it first, I assume.
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dawo5010 said:
Must be my friend's x10 then.
But wait... are you from one of the countries that JUST got paid apps? There's a reason why I capitalized the AND. Because the market update was intended by Google to allow those in other countries to get paid apps. So those in countries like mine would get it first, I assume.
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Yes I am in one of those countries

Damn.
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dawo5010 said:
Hi I'm in Singapore and I have market version 2.0.7.
Stock Froyo.
APK here!:
http://db.tt/L1ZB7DL
Market apk (com.android.vending)
Edit again.
--------- this reason is invalid--------
Edit: I figured out what this update does. Those on 1.8 with paid apps AND in countries which has JUST gotten paid apps only have a top free and just in tab. This one adds top paid. (compared to my friends x10 mini). U can see paid apps in 1.8 but can't see top paid.
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Thank you for the apk. Got it to work. Getting the "Top Paid" tab, but unable to make any purchase. App closes saying error whilst processing Google CheckOut.

My Market version is now 2.12!

Live in Latvia and my Market (don't know when) has self-updated to 2.12.

stavec said:
Live in Latvia and my Market (don't know when) has self-updated to 2.12.
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The same in Poland, my market was updated to 2.12 several days ago.

Ver. 3.1.5
Anyone from Singapore updated to Ver. 3.1.5?
If so, is the price is in SIN $ or US $?
Coz its '$1.23' after updating instead of 'S$1.23' for me now.
Should I revert back?

Have already updated CM7 Nightly market to v3.1.5...

3.1.5 also

Android Revolution HD ROM losing Market connection

Hi,
I'm using AR HD 3.7, I know that after installing my first version of ARHD (don't remember which version that was) I checked and the phone was properly connected with my market account, so all my apps were listed there.
I don't know exactly when this happened but now when I'm on 3.7 the phone has lost connection to the market and no matter what I do I can't get it to re-register itself on the market.
At first I didn't think this had anything to do with the ROM but after some correspondence with Google support about this problem they asked this question:
Have you installed an Android operating system on your device that has not been authorized by your device's manufacturer? I can troubleshoot your issue to the best of my abilities, but please be aware that unauthorized operating systems (custom roms) may have limited functionality due to the compatibility of the device. For best results, I recommend using the authorized Android operating system provided by your manufacturer that can be obtained from their website or your carrier.
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Is this a known issue? Is there a known fix or workaround to get it working again? I want to upgrade to the 5.1.x ROM but don't want to have to re-install probably a hundred apps from scratch.
Any insight will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Eran

any idea anyone?

No one? All the people out there using mike's Revolution HD ROMs, does Android the market web site show you phone in the "My Devices" tab?

I used most ARHD ROMs and never had problems with the market.
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tkolev said:
I used most ARHD ROMs and never had problems with the market.
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Thanks for the info. Did you check the market web site or just the market app on the device. The app works fine but it doesn't sync or connect with the web site.

erank said:
Thanks for the info. Did you check the market web site or just the market app on the device. The app works fine but it doesn't sync or connect with the web site.
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Both are fine. I really don't remember the case with 3.x but with 5.1.7 it all works.
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