Decided to write an article about task killer use, mainly because of so many people being surprised that i do not recommend it, after their so called techy friends told them they need one, I'll post the opening paragraph with a link to the rest of it.
Task killer, one of the most prominent words within the android world. One that causes many arguments and confusion, well today lets see if we can put it all to rest.
I am constantly surprised when talking to new android owners that come to me with questions about their "faulty" phone and "poor-performing" battery, to discover that one of the first apps they installed was a task killer. Even more surprised when I dig deeper and ask why, with one of the top responses being because their "techy" friend said its a vital app. First things first, anything vital will be a core part of the the operating system. If google required that a task killer be a core part of their os, they would have included an easy way to kill apps, end of. Also, if your "techy" friend told you to download an task killer, please, ignore any advice from them in the future, you will regret it if you don't.
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Android Guide: Should I Use a Task Killer - Droid Den
You start off by saying you don't need one and then you say you do and even recommend one!
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themikeyboosh said:
You start off by saying you don't need one and then you say you do and even recommend one!
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maybe you should read it again more carefully the paragrah your on about was simply laying out some reasons why you may need a task killer
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You start off by saying you don't need one and then you say you do and even recommend one!
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system panel is not a task killer mate, its a tool to help you identify bad apples. That is the reason for that apps existence, just ask its dev.
I read yr thread. I'm not so experienced in the systems. But i think this thread is following a good logic, and the systems at the end are all about logic.....
So, first thing i do after finish reading was killing the task killers.
Thanks again for the post.
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Excellent article mate keep up your good work.
Many many people are brainwashed by many misleading reviews on Google in to thinking they need a task manager but this article explains nicely why they dont.
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System panel is a good solution. Try also power tutor, if it works with your phone
AndroHero said:
maybe you should read it again more carefully the paragrah your on about was simply laying out some reasons why you may need a task killer
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No no, I've read it, it's plain as day. You've just said it again.
le3ky said:
system panel is not a task killer mate, its a tool to help you identify bad apples. That is the reason for that apps existence, just ask its dev.
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Does it kill tasks? Need I go on.....It doesn't matter how you jazz it up "pal" there's no denying it can be used to kill tasks.
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Does it kill tasks? Need I go on.....It doesn't matter how you jazz it up "pal" there's no denying it can be used to kill tasks.
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lol? Do you honestly not understand?
There are apps out there that are coded badly.
In order to remove those apps you first need to id them.
SystemPanel helps you find out which app is causing a problem.
Then you may uninstall that app.
Nothing about using it as a task killer in there.
Does that help? I could try to put it in simpler terms if not.
I only use a task killer when I want to run some benchmarks shortly after having played around with resource-intensive apps like games.Other than that only as mentioned in the article,to trace and kill bad or frozen apps.Any other use is only harmful.
Very good article. It should be sticked.
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I don't use a task killer with my HTC Desire. But back in the day with 1.5 and 1.6 I needed a task killer. Now 2.1 or higher doesn't need one.
for sure, higher memory and more efficient android definitely does not need one.
"Android is smart enough to recognise when it is running low on available memory, and will start to close those apps that it deems are low priority."
Then pls tell me why after opening more and more apps my desire gets slower as it is running out of memory, and after killing them with task killer except for the one im using its running smoothly again. I would love to stick with the android solution, but its just not working out...
Rooted Desire S-Off running latest Redux Rom (Gingerbread)
At first I thought a task killer was making my battery life longer - but I tried it again a couple of months after using Android - just to see if it impact battery life and found no difference - or not noticable anyway on day-to-day use.
Thanks for this, very informative. Defo should be a sticky
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I'm confused which one to install...
advanced task killer
advanced task cleaner
there're so many, please advice. Thanks.
I use advanced Task killer, as do most people I beleive.
it works a treat.
any particular settings i shoud know?
not sure. I just it straight from install and works great. if you go INTO app killer you'll see lots of tick boxes, if you untick anything you don't want to kill it'll remember settings.
kmetek said:
I'm confused which one to install...
advanced task killer
advanced task cleaner
there're so many, please advice. Thanks.
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I'd suggest no task killer at all!
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
I'd suggest no task killer at all!
Regards,
Dave
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I don't want to argue, I ve read many articles on how android works but sometimes my phone lags so much I need to kill a few apps in background to get phone running normally.
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foxmeister said:
I'd suggest no task killer at all!
Regards,
Dave
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Seriously? but doesn't the Android OS burn battery life and keep stuff in memory and take resources?
2.2 is pretty good with memory management. I use Advanced Task Killer, but only for killing apps manually that are floating around. I don't use it for any kind of automatic task killing,
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Seriously? but doesn't the Android OS burn battery life and keep stuff in memory and take resources?
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Desire is my 3rd Android phone - I had a G1 and a Hero previously.
I used to use an automatic Task Killer initially when I had my G1, but I actually found it caused more problems than it solved. So, I stopped, and everything started working better.
If you are finding your phone lags, chances are that the issue is an errant app. Whilst "killing" it will relieve the symptoms, the real solution is to dump the app causing the problem.
Android *is* very good at resource management, if left alone to do it's own thing.
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Dave
I have tried to use this to stop the drm services from starting. I install and check all options to stop them from starting up. They still start up on reboot even though I check the option to not restart.
What can I use or how can I stop there since I seem to not need it.
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I have tried to use this to stop the drm services from starting. I install and check all options to stop them from starting up. They still start up on reboot even though I check the option to not restart.
What can I use or how can I stop there since I seem to not need it.
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Anyone have an idea?
mynewepic10 said:
Anyone have an idea?
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Did you seriously just double post AND quote yourself simultaneously?
Is that another way to bump?
mynewepic10 said:
I have tried to use this to stop the drm services from starting. I install and check all options to stop them from starting up. They still start up on reboot even though I check the option to not restart.
What can I use or how can I stop there since I seem to not need it.
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So I don't know the exact behavior of every single Task Manager, nor do I know what you mean by stopping the DRM(Digital Rights Management?) services.
For one, that sounds like an issue associated with pirateing, which is not tolerated for discussion here at XDA Devlopers.
And so to probably answer your question:
Especially with an Eclair 2.1 version of Android, Task Managers are not able to kill processes immediately as they are created. I know the one that I use only kills the Auto-Kill listed apps when I turn the screen off. So your Task Manager may not be able to successfully kill the aforementioned DRM process.
Hope that helps. Don't pirate. At least don't make it obvous...
Just use titanium backup to freeze the drm services. And he's not wanting to stop it fire piracy issues, its a known issue that drm services cause a huge battery drain on our phones
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What i do is, i created a custom shortcut to settings - running services. Tap the icon, click the process. No extra killers needed. I do it once per boot.. and, having tried a million other methods, this works the best.
Doesn't freezing it in titanium cause the same problems as if it was removed?
To cyan crayon: do you have an epic?
..and just realized were replying to a post that's 3 months old.. selffail.
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decalex said:
To cyan crayon: do you have an epic?
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Yes, I have an Epic. If you use the desktop website you'll see it in my sig.
I haven't come across this DRM process issue yet, although I've only had my Epic for about two weeks. Regardless of the fact, when I do see problems I might be able to help with I will do my best to contribute.
Edit: Let me attempt to clarify what I have said.
I never guessed to check my processes, and whaddya know it's right there staring me right in the face.
The thing is task managers like Task Manager (which is what I use) only can target running apps. In case that wasn't apparent.
This process is starting along with the Android System, so unless you decide you don't want the system to start when the phone boots, it will start it every time.
The point is that task managers like Task Manager, cannot, and will not terminate processes other than its own, because (obvously for security reasons) the API for that behavior does not exist.
/lecture ^-^"
And I would imagine freezing it would cause issues. Just like decalex said. It does perhaps have a purpose.
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decalex said:
What i do is, i created a custom shortcut to settings - running services. Tap the icon, click the process. No extra killers needed. I do it once per boot.. and, having tried a million other methods, this works the best.
Doesn't freezing it in titanium cause the same problems as if it was removed?
To cyan crayon: do you have an epic?
..and just realized were replying to a post that's 3 months old.. selffail.
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I've never had any issues withe my phone at all, other than the known dk28 bugs and even then the worst bug is the occasional wfi error running midnight rom and I have tianium freezing all drm services. And I use the media player for about 7.5 hours of my day and pandora for about another hour with the occasional movie playing during breaks if I'm super bored lol
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CyanCrayon said:
Yes, I have an Epic. If you use the desktop website you'll see it in my sig.
I haven't come across this DRM process issue yet, although I've only had my Epic for about two weeks. Regardless of the fact, when I do see problems I might be able to help with I will do my best to contribute.
Edit: Let me attempt to clarify what I have said.
I never guessed to check my processes, and whaddya know it's right there staring me right in the face.
The thing is task managers like Task Manager (which is what I use) only can target running apps. In case that wasn't apparent.
This process is starting along with the Android System, so unless you decide you don't want the system to start when the phone boots, it will start it every time.
The point is that task managers like Task Manager, cannot, and will not terminate processes other than its own, because (obvously for security reasons) the API for that behavior does not exist.
/lecture ^-^"
And I would imagine freezing it would cause issues. Just like decalex said. It does perhaps have a purpose.
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[How] to remove the omadrmconfigservice.drm to get more battery life on epic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794010
Do you really think that someone that knows how to pirate would ask for advice/assistance on how to do it in this forum?
brickwall99 said:
[How] to remove the omadrmconfigservice.drm to get more battery life on epic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794010
Do you really think that someone that knows how to pirate would ask for advice/assistance on how to do it in this forum?
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>.> There are some morons out there...
And you beat me to linking that.. ^^
could someone explain how to use this autokiller ?
Don't use a task killer,android do this very well. I try one or two task killer and the result is many bug on my phone.
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mastertiti2000 said:
Don't use a task killer,android do this very well. I try one or two task killer and the result is many bug on my phone.
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The thing is my play is very slow and sluggish so I'm trying time get it as fast as possible
Since Gingerbread, Android itself successfully manages the applications, putting them to sleep and the likes when it sees fit, so I wouldn't bother installing one, you end up using more power, as GB re launches some apps that need to be open that you may have killed...
If your phone is slow I'd look at what software you've installed. I've only had my phone a few weeks but I find it VERY fast 90% if the time.
Auto task killer type apps I agree cause more problems then its worth. Haven't used one on this phone nor my previous Acer running froyo
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The thing is my play is very slow and sluggish so I'm trying time get it as fast as possible
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If you describe your problem in a bit more detail, you might get some decent advice here.
Task killers are not needed to speed your phone up. In fact, they are more likely to slow it down since your cpu will be used alot more while it cycles the closure of apps that will keep opening.
Auto killer, is not a task killer. He is talking about minifree manager i assume.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630262
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I found some articles on net talking about harmful influences when using task killers apps.
I'm using SlimICS at the moment and I want to know if when I use the killing button that I've added on my navigation buttons harms my phone as the task killers do..
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Don't kill apps unless you have a misbehaving one that's adversely affecting your phone.
The OS can manage apps and memory so much better than you ever could.
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Don't kill apps unless you have a misbehaving one that's adversely affecting your phone.
The OS can manage apps and memory so much better than you ever could.
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Just to add: If you have a misbehaving app, don't bother killing it. Just uninstall it. It's not worth the trouble.
These task killers and memory optimizers are really good for lower end devices that have little memory. I used them on a phone that only had 356MB of RAM and only run at about 30-40MB free. A better way to address these issues is to run the V6 Supercharger script on a rooted device.
As for the GNex, why do you need to run task killers? You're not having memory performance issues, are you?
netbuzz said:
These task killers and memory optimizers are really good for lower end devices that have little memory. I used them on a phone that only had 356MB of RAM and only run at about 30-40MB free. A better way to address these issues is to run the V6 Supercharger script on a rooted device.
As for the GNex, why do you need to run task killers? You're not having memory performance issues, are you?
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Yep. On my old ZTE Blade I really did feel a significant difference in smoothness after killing off some apps, so I don't entirely agree with the notion that you should never ever even consider doing it (which seems to be what some people advocate), but on the GNex there doesn't seem to be a need for it unless a specific app is misbehaving. I don't know if that's just because of the more powerful hardware or if it's also because of the much improved OS (I imagine it's both), but there you go.
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Just to add: If you have a misbehaving app, don't bother killing it. Just uninstall it. It's not worth the trouble.
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This. I use watchdog to monitor rogue apps. Engadget was s repeat offender so it had to go.
As mentioned the OS does a great job on its own.
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You need nothing more than to swipe apps away when you're done with them in the multitasking window, which doubles as a task manager of sorts.
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MikeyMike01 said:
You need nothing more than to swipe apps away when you're done with them in the multitasking window, which doubles as a task manager of sorts.
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Again, why even bother? The OS handles this just fine.
Although, that doesn't necessarily "kill" background apps. There is a box in "developer settings" that, if you check it, will kill any application after using it. I haven't tried it out but it may just work.
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Although, that doesn't necessarily "kill" background apps. There is a box in "developer settings" that, if you check it, will kill any application after using it. I haven't tried it out but it may just work.
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I'm pretty sure that's as bad as using a task killer.
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Ntavelis said:
I found some articles on net talking about harmful influences when using task killers apps.
I'm using SlimICS at the moment and I want to know if when I use the killing button that I've added on my navigation buttons harms my phone as the task killers do..
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus while relaxing..
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even cyanogenmod has a kill app button, i dont think it does anything to your phone.
IMO the only useful reasons to kill a background app are if it's wasting your battery, bandwidth, or it's some kind of logger. In those cases you're better off just uninstalling it. Android is designed to keep things in memory to save start-up time and related battery drain, and so you have the benefit of the task-selector button. It knows when to clear enough memory to keep your foreground app and you happy. Task killers are holdovers from the days when they were useful.
galaxy nexus (gsm) / cm9 / trinity @ 1.4GHz
I learned a long time ago that in Android/Linux free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Ics/jb does not need app killers if you press the recent app key and swype it left or right the app gets killed
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Again, why even bother? The OS handles this just fine.
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No, not really. And if it were "bad" they wouldn't put it into Android. You should swipe them away when you're done with them.
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I'm pretty sure that's as bad as using a task killer.
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There's nothing bad about closing apps you're done with.
What's bad is the auto task killers.
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MikeyMike01 said:
No, not really. And if it were "bad" they wouldn't put it into Android. You should swipe them away when you're done with them.
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No it really does nothing positive to swipe apps away when you're done with them. As the poster a couple above me said, free RAM is wasted RAM. The OS will keep everything in order. You're unnecessarily micromanaging your apps when you swipe them away. Your phone just works harder and for longer re-opening apps over and over again when you kill them manually.
Your RAM is powered and draining battery whether its full of apps or not. It's in your best interest to let the OS fill up your RAM (all the way up to about 90% full) and let it kill things as necessary when you load an app that needs more than is available. The OS will handle it. I know everyone has it engrained in their minds from using Windows for so long to keep as much RAM free as possible, but its just not the case in Android anymore.
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No it really does nothing positive to swipe apps away when you're done with them. As the poster a couple above me said, free RAM is wasted RAM. The OS will keep everything in order. You're unnecessarily micromanaging your apps when you swipe them away. Your phone just works harder and for longer re-opening apps over and over again when you kill them manually.
Your RAM is powered and draining battery whether its full of apps or not. It's in your best interest to let the OS fill up your RAM (all the way up to about 90% full) and let it kill things as necessary when you load an app that needs more than is available. The OS will handle it. I know everyone has it engrained in their minds from using Windows for so long to keep as much RAM free as possible, but its just not the case in Android anymore.
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Whatever you want to believe. I'm not going to waste my time on convincing you.
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MikeyMike01 said:
Whatever you want to believe. I'm not going to waste my time on convincing you.
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Hah alright.
I find it odd that this is not a more frequented topic for this device.
I'm running JB and really, the lack of memory for these phones is appalling.
I found an app that would create swap space and it is really working quite well.
Before, I would have to free up ram in order to keep programs running like they should.
Now, I can practically boot my phone and not both with that anymore.
Yes, swap can slow the phone.
Yes, swap is slow and overly inefficient.
But, the benefits of a little swap space (32mb) is a VAST improvement.
I'd like to know everyone's thoughts on this. I am relieved to find an app that would do this automatically instead of having to code something up myself.
you don't need an app for this
just use the script I provided in the CM10 thread or wait for the next CM10 build. It will create about 200 mb of swap space by default
and this has been the topic in many threads so you are wrong on this
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speckl said:
I find it odd that this is not a more frequented topic for this device.
I'm running JB and really, the lack of memory for these phones is appalling.
I found an app that would create swap space and it is really working quite well.
Before, I would have to free up ram in order to keep programs running like they should.
Now, I can practically boot my phone and not both with that anymore.
Yes, swap can slow the phone.
Yes, swap is slow and overly inefficient.
But, the benefits of a little swap space (32mb) is a VAST improvement.
I'd like to know everyone's thoughts on this. I am relieved to find an app that would do this automatically instead of having to code something up myself.
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you might find it odd for the reason that hardly anyone has mem problems, i have a ton of apps installed and don't run out of mem....
I beg to differ.
Run:
IMO
Facebook
Twitter
Mail (Exchange Services)
Then proceed to browse the web and watch the lag happen on JB.
Running with 20mb free memory is not what I consider optimal. If this phone had even 512mb ram then I wouldn't even be having these issues.
@maxwen - What thread are you talking about?
speckl said:
I beg to differ.
Run:
IMO
Facebook
Twitter
Mail (Exchange Services)
Then proceed to browse the web and watch the lag happen on JB.
Running with 20mb free memory is not what I consider optimal. If this phone had even 512mb ram then I wouldn't even be having these issues.
@maxwen - What thread are you talking about?
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facebook app is notorious for using high amount of memory for no reason, uninstall it and watch everything get better. also stop ram watching, android has a very good task manager which you can tweak...
speckl said:
I beg to differ.
Run:
IMO
Facebook
Twitter
Mail (Exchange Services)
Then proceed to browse the web and watch the lag happen on JB.
Running with 20mb free memory is not what I consider optimal. If this phone had even 512mb ram then I wouldn't even be having these issues.
@maxwen - What thread are you talking about?
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I use many apps and don't run out of mem. And I don't RAM watch unless I know I've way too many apps. Just calm down, uninstall Facebook (RAM/lag hog) and you would be fine. There shouldn't be any lag in these ROMs, as we run ICS without lag whatsoever.
I do not see how uninstalling Facebook is the answer. It proves my point.
Basically, I have these phones and since my wife had an iPhone before this one I get an ear full every day.
She likes MIUI because it looks similar. So I have that installed for her. I've personally had a better experience with Pacman. So I'm going to move her to that.
What I have noticed is that swap works on these devices better than without.
To tell someone to uninstall a memory hog defeats the purpose of basic consumer usage of these phones.
They are low on memory. We cannot upgrade the ram, but we can work around it.
I would prefer to use a generic version of JB and not one all spiffed up with extras.
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I do not see how uninstalling Facebook is the answer. It proves my point.
Basically, I have these phones and since my wife had an iPhone before this one I get an ear full every day.
She likes MIUI because it looks similar. So I have that installed for her. I've personally had a better experience with Pacman. So I'm going to move her to that.
What I have noticed is that swap works on these devices better than without.
To tell someone to uninstall a memory hog defeats the purpose of basic consumer usage of these phones.
They are low on memory. We cannot upgrade the ram, but we can work around it.
I would prefer to use a generic version of JB and not one all spiffed up with extras.
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Then stop your b1tching and moaning, and go do one! i don't and Maxwen don't spend all our time building rom's for someone to seem really ungrateful for the work we put in! Facebook uses a MASS amount of memory on ALL devices and causes problems on ALL devices!
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go do one = generic version of JB
i would like to see a logcat of this "low ram issue"
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I do not see how uninstalling Facebook is the answer. It proves my point.
Basically, I have these phones and since my wife had an iPhone before this one I get an ear full every day.
She likes MIUI because it looks similar. So I have that installed for her. I've personally had a better experience with Pacman. So I'm going to move her to that.
What I have noticed is that swap works on these devices better than without.
To tell someone to uninstall a memory hog defeats the purpose of basic consumer usage of these phones.
They are low on memory. We cannot upgrade the ram, but we can work around it.
I would prefer to use a generic version of JB and not one all spiffed up with extras.
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Facebook isn't only a problem on this device.
My device is the HTC One X. Its considered a "high-end" phone. Still though, my phone, along with other people's phones lag, and lose battery like crazy when it is installed.
Don't blame developers. The hardware in these phones is not the developers issue. Crappy apps is the issue.
I hope that I'm not sounding ungrateful. I'm extremely pleased with current rom progress. My issue is directly related to the lack of ram on these devices. I'm not sure exactly how a logcat would be helpful when there are no errors occurring. However, this device we released a few months ago. Their lack of a minimum of 512mb of ram is disheartening. Android and its applications have been moving forward with developing great devices that could one day relieve the need to goto a computer for specific tasks.
Facebook is a hog. I agree with this, but removing it is not a fix.
Android is great with memory management. Linux in general is. But forcing background apps that should stay running to close is something that swap helps to relieve.
I've currently had zero issues with apps that I have running in the background. They are now staying open like they should be.
I would love to build a rom. However, I wouldn't have a clue where to start. And as time permits, it's not really something I can pursue at the moment.
speckl said:
I hope that I'm not sounding ungrateful. I'm extremely pleased with current rom progress. My issue is directly related to the lack of ram on these devices. I'm not sure exactly how a logcat would be helpful when there are no errors occurring. However, this device we released a few months ago. Their lack of a minimum of 512mb of ram is disheartening. Android and its applications have been moving forward with developing great devices that could one day relieve the need to goto a computer for specific tasks.
Facebook is a hog. I agree with this, but removing it is not a fix.
Android is great with memory management. Linux in general is. But forcing background apps that should stay running to close is something that swap helps to relieve.
I've currently had zero issues with apps that I have running in the background. They are now staying open like they should be.
I would love to build a rom. However, I wouldn't have a clue where to start. And as time permits, it's not really something I can pursue at the moment.
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NO ONE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT FACEBOOK!!! Find a third party app or use the web! (http://facebook.com in case you need a link). Removing it is the only fix you have. Don't build a ROM, build a phone and build a third party Facebook app.
Edit: Yes, you do sound ungrateful.
kalaker said:
NO ONE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT FACEBOOK!!! Find a third party app or use the web! (http://facebook.com in case you need a link). Removing it is the only fix you have. Don't build a ROM, build a phone and build a third party Facebook app.
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Why exactly did you feel the need to reply without reading the purpose of this thread.
speckl said:
I hope that I'm not sounding ungrateful. I'm extremely pleased with current rom progress. My issue is directly related to the lack of ram on these devices. I'm not sure exactly how a logcat would be helpful when there are no errors occurring. However, this device we released a few months ago. Their lack of a minimum of 512mb of ram is disheartening. Android and its applications have been moving forward with developing great devices that could one day relieve the need to goto a computer for specific tasks.
Facebook is a hog. I agree with this, but removing it is not a fix.
Android is great with memory management. Linux in general is. But forcing background apps that should stay running to close is something that swap helps to relieve.
I've currently had zero issues with apps that I have running in the background. They are now staying open like they should be.
I would love to build a rom. However, I wouldn't have a clue where to start. And as time permits, it's not really something I can pursue at the moment.
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you might not see the problem, but i might, as you and maybe one or two other people are having this problem, NONE of the dev's can reproduce this. i mean NO ONE....hence why i ask for a logcat
speckl said:
Why exactly did you feel the need to reply without reading the purpose of this thread.
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1. I feel the need to reply because swap won't solve the problem in your scenario. In your scenario, you need a Facebook replacement as swap will not not help. The Facebook app sucks; Facebook is not even meant for use on JellyBean.
2. Because you are being rude to devs who deserve your thanks, not your impatience.
Lloir is right. Just give him a logcat.
kalaker said:
1. I feel the need to reply because swap won't solve the problem in your scenario. In your scenario, you need a Facebook replacement as swap will not not help. The Facebook app sucks; Facebook is not even meant for use on JellyBean.
2. Because you are being rude to devs who deserve your thanks, not your impatience.
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1. This is the most ridiculous response I have ever seen. Facebook isn't supposed to be used on JB? Does FB know this?
2. I am not being rude at all. I'm trying to have a conversation with general HTC One V users that may have so opinions on using swap.
The devs believe its not needed. The devs are not typical users, nor am I.
For your info, swap DOES help. When using facebook on the phone, it does not kill off other processes that I want to continue running.
Lloir, logcat wont help. Best is to install a ton of apps that should stay running in the background when opened. I provided this list earlier. You will notice that ram will get low and kill off one of those processes that it needs to kill to continue running the opened app.
speckl said:
1. This is the most ridiculous response I have ever seen. Facebook isn't supposed to be used on JB? Does FB know this?
2. I am not being rude at all. I'm trying to have a conversation with general HTC One V users that may have so opinions on using swap.
The devs believe its not needed. The devs are not typical users, nor am I.
For your info, swap DOES help. When using facebook on the phone, it does not kill off other processes that I want to continue running.
Lloir, logcat wont help. Best is to install a ton of apps that should stay running in the background when opened. I provided this list earlier. You will notice that ram will get low and kill off one of those processes that it needs to kill to continue running the opened app.
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well in that case if my belief is not needed good luck in getting help....this has been a hot topic between ALL of us in IRC...i have a ton of apps + more installed and still i get 138mb~ free, if your not willing to provide me with a logcat then so be it.
im done here
Lloir said:
well in that case if my belief is not needed good luck in getting help....this has been a hot topic between ALL of us in IRC...i have a ton of apps + more installed and still i get 138mb~ free,
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~120mb for me BTW
Wait. Why the duck do you blame ROMs if you use some apps on it? Did the ROM came with Facebook integration or any other social channel for that matter? NO!
You are using them solo, a developer is not here to help you if the Facebook app itself has problems. One v has small amount of ram? Go buy an iPhone. Why did you buy it in the first place?
Seems to me that you are the developer of that swap app and you expected everyone to ask you to give a link. We are not that stupid, we don't need an app to mk swap.
Your ungratefulness has driven me on the wall this morning and you don't deserve to run our crappy ROMs how you think they are.
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1ceb0x said:
Wait. Why the duck do you blame ROMs if you use some apps on it? Did the ROM came with Facebook integration or any other social channel for that matter? NO!
You are using them solo, a developer is not here to help you if the Facebook app itself has problems. One v has small amount of ram? Go buy an iPhone. Why did you buy it in the first place?
Seems to me that you are the developer of that swap app and you expected everyone to ask you to give a link. We are not that stupid, we don't need an app to mk swap.
Your ungratefulness has driven me on the wall this morning and you don't deserve to run our crappy ROMs how you think they are.
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+1
If u wanted to run all those high end apps u shud have bought a high end smart phone ....
1cebox chill I'll find him and kill him
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