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Task Manager

Hey guys, im wondering what is the best task manager i can use with my xperia or windows mobile 6? I have itje's rom and i notice after a softreset my usage is about 43% and then eventaully within a couple of days without turning it off it rises up to 65% and doesnt go down (I dont have any programs running). So im guessing there are processes that HTC task manager doesnt pick up on.
Thanks

anyone please?

Fi3nD said:
anyone please?
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in my opinion, the best task manager is included in WisBar Advance 3. You have to pay for the software. And it's a very slow one too.

if ur using one of the tf3d roms, then this is normal..the reason is allover the rom thread so u might wanna read to find out why

Soft resetting every 2 or 3 days is healthy
Or go to /windows/ and open TaskManager, then kill the unnecessary processes mannually

My favourite Taskmanager is "WKTask". It's freeware and has all functions i've ever wished. It's just like working with "big" windows. Simple by setting some preferences you can easily apply your preferences. I've now been using it for one month and had never any problem concerning bugs, lacks or anything else!

orderme said:
My favourite Taskmanager is "WKTask". It's freeware and has all functions i've ever wished. It's just like working with "big" windows. Simple by setting some preferences you can easily apply your preferences. I've now been using it for one month and had never any problem concerning bugs, lacks or anything else!
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Order'
Hey, thanks for the heads up about WKTask - looks sweet - and welcome to XDA!
Is it possible to make the task bar icons bigger (finger friendly) and to move them to the bottom menu bar? Then it would be perfect.

gtrab said:
Soft resetting every 2 or 3 days is healthy
Or go to /windows/ and open TaskManager, then kill the unnecessary processes mannually
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Yes, that's true!
In addition to this, I use FDC Task Manager... really useful, lots of functionalities, and you can run it only when you need it.

Is it possible to make the task bar icons bigger (finger friendly) and to move them to the bottom menu bar? Then it would be perfect.
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Well I don't think so. I would have liked it much more, as you said, a bit more fingerfriendly, but as long as no other program does the job as good as WKTask for me, I won't change it. Do you know any project under construction concerning Taskmanagers? Wisbar and all the others are expensive and lacking. Also I have the feeling, that they can't really deal with the panelmanager...

Should You Use a Task Killer?

Decided to write an article about task killer use, mainly because of so many people being surprised that i do not recommend it, after their so called techy friends told them they need one, I'll post the opening paragraph with a link to the rest of it.
Task killer, one of the most prominent words within the android world. One that causes many arguments and confusion, well today lets see if we can put it all to rest.
I am constantly surprised when talking to new android owners that come to me with questions about their "faulty" phone and "poor-performing" battery, to discover that one of the first apps they installed was a task killer. Even more surprised when I dig deeper and ask why, with one of the top responses being because their "techy" friend said its a vital app. First things first, anything vital will be a core part of the the operating system. If google required that a task killer be a core part of their os, they would have included an easy way to kill apps, end of. Also, if your "techy" friend told you to download an task killer, please, ignore any advice from them in the future, you will regret it if you don't.
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Android Guide: Should I Use a Task Killer - Droid Den

You start off by saying you don't need one and then you say you do and even recommend one!
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themikeyboosh said:
You start off by saying you don't need one and then you say you do and even recommend one!
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maybe you should read it again more carefully the paragrah your on about was simply laying out some reasons why you may need a task killer

themikeyboosh said:
You start off by saying you don't need one and then you say you do and even recommend one!
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system panel is not a task killer mate, its a tool to help you identify bad apples. That is the reason for that apps existence, just ask its dev.

I read yr thread. I'm not so experienced in the systems. But i think this thread is following a good logic, and the systems at the end are all about logic.....
So, first thing i do after finish reading was killing the task killers.
Thanks again for the post.
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Excellent article mate keep up your good work.
Many many people are brainwashed by many misleading reviews on Google in to thinking they need a task manager but this article explains nicely why they dont.
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System panel is a good solution. Try also power tutor, if it works with your phone

AndroHero said:
maybe you should read it again more carefully the paragrah your on about was simply laying out some reasons why you may need a task killer
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No no, I've read it, it's plain as day. You've just said it again.
le3ky said:
system panel is not a task killer mate, its a tool to help you identify bad apples. That is the reason for that apps existence, just ask its dev.
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Does it kill tasks? Need I go on.....It doesn't matter how you jazz it up "pal" there's no denying it can be used to kill tasks.

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themikeyboosh said:
Does it kill tasks? Need I go on.....It doesn't matter how you jazz it up "pal" there's no denying it can be used to kill tasks.
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lol? Do you honestly not understand?
There are apps out there that are coded badly.
In order to remove those apps you first need to id them.
SystemPanel helps you find out which app is causing a problem.
Then you may uninstall that app.
Nothing about using it as a task killer in there.
Does that help? I could try to put it in simpler terms if not.

I only use a task killer when I want to run some benchmarks shortly after having played around with resource-intensive apps like games.Other than that only as mentioned in the article,to trace and kill bad or frozen apps.Any other use is only harmful.

Very good article. It should be sticked.
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I don't use a task killer with my HTC Desire. But back in the day with 1.5 and 1.6 I needed a task killer. Now 2.1 or higher doesn't need one.

for sure, higher memory and more efficient android definitely does not need one.

"Android is smart enough to recognise when it is running low on available memory, and will start to close those apps that it deems are low priority."
Then pls tell me why after opening more and more apps my desire gets slower as it is running out of memory, and after killing them with task killer except for the one im using its running smoothly again. I would love to stick with the android solution, but its just not working out...
Rooted Desire S-Off running latest Redux Rom (Gingerbread)

At first I thought a task killer was making my battery life longer - but I tried it again a couple of months after using Android - just to see if it impact battery life and found no difference - or not noticable anyway on day-to-day use.

Thanks for this, very informative. Defo should be a sticky

"Killer" apps

I have a question i was reading a post earlier on battery life and someone mentioned that having task killer was bad for batter life? Or something to that effect, I currently have task killer and Autokiller memory apps installed. Which one should I be using? Honestly I wish there was a better task manager or something that would allow me to pick and choose which apps stay running and which ones only run when I use them. Because I tend to see apps in my task manager list that I'm not even using like yahoo messenger, eBay, taskos, etc.
Any information/ assistance will be appreciated.
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Uninstall both!
Only reason you should ever use a task killer is if the app stops responding, but the Android OS does a good job of taking care of those also.
If you need to freeze an app so that it never starts you can use Titanium Backup.

Ysosrslawl said:
I have a question i was reading a post earlier on battery life and someone mentioned that having task killer was bad for batter life? Or something to that effect, I currently have task killer and Autokiller memory apps installed. Which one should I be using? Honestly I wish there was a better task manager or something that would allow me to pick and choose which apps stay running and which ones only run when I use them. Because I tend to see apps in my task manager list that I'm not even using like yahoo messenger, eBay, taskos, etc.
Any information/ assistance will be appreciated.
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Honestly, I do not recommend using a task killer. There are all types of pros/cons to task killers and a quick google search will result in a lot of articles about it. If you can, try removing the apps (when rooted obviously) you do not want or freeze them using Titanium Backup like the other commenter suggested.

Stop Running Applications

Hey guys whats up?
i have many apps on my phone that never seem to stop. i kill them all but they come back again. its killing the ram on my defy.
any solution?
thanks

What you need is the autostarts app. Get it from market.
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Don't bother. Android will kill them if you ever need memory
Got a Headache? It's all in your Head.

it's fine. That's how android works. it keeps app in memory and kill them when needed.
so dont worry

so its better not to install apps like Advance Task killer or autostarts apps?
Is it ok to leave it on and let android decide when to kill it? Because if I leave them on, they eat by RAM & battery very fast.
Also leaving it on makes the phone laggy...
Pls guide...

popcorn1122 said:
so its better not to install apps like Advance Task killer or autostarts apps?
Is it ok to leave it on and let android decide when to kill it? Because if I leave them on, they eat by RAM & battery very fast.
Also leaving it on makes the phone laggy...
Pls guide...
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If u have many apps running, then kill the apps ...some apps don't restart...it helps reduce the lagging....if there are only few apps running then don't bother...if u use task killers excessively then ur battery will surely get drained
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popcorn1122 said:
so its better not to install apps like Advance Task killer or autostarts apps?
Is it ok to leave it on and let android decide when to kill it? Because if I leave them on, they eat by RAM & battery very fast.
Also leaving it on makes the phone laggy...
Pls guide...
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Normally you shouldn't have to use an application such as "Advanced Task Killer". Android is unix based so it should handle pretty good with apps that are "not doing anything but running in the background".
What you can do is try to exit some apps properly (not just pressing the back button) by going to the menu and actually clicking on the "Quit" if it's available.
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Killing apps..

I found some articles on net talking about harmful influences when using task killers apps.
I'm using SlimICS at the moment and I want to know if when I use the killing button that I've added on my navigation buttons harms my phone as the task killers do..
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Don't kill apps unless you have a misbehaving one that's adversely affecting your phone.
The OS can manage apps and memory so much better than you ever could.

martonikaj said:
Don't kill apps unless you have a misbehaving one that's adversely affecting your phone.
The OS can manage apps and memory so much better than you ever could.
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Just to add: If you have a misbehaving app, don't bother killing it. Just uninstall it. It's not worth the trouble.

These task killers and memory optimizers are really good for lower end devices that have little memory. I used them on a phone that only had 356MB of RAM and only run at about 30-40MB free. A better way to address these issues is to run the V6 Supercharger script on a rooted device.
As for the GNex, why do you need to run task killers? You're not having memory performance issues, are you?

netbuzz said:
These task killers and memory optimizers are really good for lower end devices that have little memory. I used them on a phone that only had 356MB of RAM and only run at about 30-40MB free. A better way to address these issues is to run the V6 Supercharger script on a rooted device.
As for the GNex, why do you need to run task killers? You're not having memory performance issues, are you?
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Yep. On my old ZTE Blade I really did feel a significant difference in smoothness after killing off some apps, so I don't entirely agree with the notion that you should never ever even consider doing it (which seems to be what some people advocate), but on the GNex there doesn't seem to be a need for it unless a specific app is misbehaving. I don't know if that's just because of the more powerful hardware or if it's also because of the much improved OS (I imagine it's both), but there you go.

JaiaV said:
Just to add: If you have a misbehaving app, don't bother killing it. Just uninstall it. It's not worth the trouble.
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This. I use watchdog to monitor rogue apps. Engadget was s repeat offender so it had to go.
As mentioned the OS does a great job on its own.
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You need nothing more than to swipe apps away when you're done with them in the multitasking window, which doubles as a task manager of sorts.
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MikeyMike01 said:
You need nothing more than to swipe apps away when you're done with them in the multitasking window, which doubles as a task manager of sorts.
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Again, why even bother? The OS handles this just fine.

Although, that doesn't necessarily "kill" background apps. There is a box in "developer settings" that, if you check it, will kill any application after using it. I haven't tried it out but it may just work.
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LocoTSX said:
Although, that doesn't necessarily "kill" background apps. There is a box in "developer settings" that, if you check it, will kill any application after using it. I haven't tried it out but it may just work.
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I'm pretty sure that's as bad as using a task killer.
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Ntavelis said:
I found some articles on net talking about harmful influences when using task killers apps.
I'm using SlimICS at the moment and I want to know if when I use the killing button that I've added on my navigation buttons harms my phone as the task killers do..
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus while relaxing..
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even cyanogenmod has a kill app button, i dont think it does anything to your phone.

IMO the only useful reasons to kill a background app are if it's wasting your battery, bandwidth, or it's some kind of logger. In those cases you're better off just uninstalling it. Android is designed to keep things in memory to save start-up time and related battery drain, and so you have the benefit of the task-selector button. It knows when to clear enough memory to keep your foreground app and you happy. Task killers are holdovers from the days when they were useful.
galaxy nexus (gsm) / cm9 / trinity @ 1.4GHz

I learned a long time ago that in Android/Linux free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Ics/jb does not need app killers if you press the recent app key and swype it left or right the app gets killed
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martonikaj said:
Again, why even bother? The OS handles this just fine.
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No, not really. And if it were "bad" they wouldn't put it into Android. You should swipe them away when you're done with them.
I Am Marino said:
I'm pretty sure that's as bad as using a task killer.
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There's nothing bad about closing apps you're done with.
What's bad is the auto task killers.
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MikeyMike01 said:
No, not really. And if it were "bad" they wouldn't put it into Android. You should swipe them away when you're done with them.
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No it really does nothing positive to swipe apps away when you're done with them. As the poster a couple above me said, free RAM is wasted RAM. The OS will keep everything in order. You're unnecessarily micromanaging your apps when you swipe them away. Your phone just works harder and for longer re-opening apps over and over again when you kill them manually.
Your RAM is powered and draining battery whether its full of apps or not. It's in your best interest to let the OS fill up your RAM (all the way up to about 90% full) and let it kill things as necessary when you load an app that needs more than is available. The OS will handle it. I know everyone has it engrained in their minds from using Windows for so long to keep as much RAM free as possible, but its just not the case in Android anymore.

martonikaj said:
No it really does nothing positive to swipe apps away when you're done with them. As the poster a couple above me said, free RAM is wasted RAM. The OS will keep everything in order. You're unnecessarily micromanaging your apps when you swipe them away. Your phone just works harder and for longer re-opening apps over and over again when you kill them manually.
Your RAM is powered and draining battery whether its full of apps or not. It's in your best interest to let the OS fill up your RAM (all the way up to about 90% full) and let it kill things as necessary when you load an app that needs more than is available. The OS will handle it. I know everyone has it engrained in their minds from using Windows for so long to keep as much RAM free as possible, but its just not the case in Android anymore.
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Whatever you want to believe. I'm not going to waste my time on convincing you.
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MikeyMike01 said:
Whatever you want to believe. I'm not going to waste my time on convincing you.
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Hah alright.