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So why root?

I rooted my GN2 the day I bought it but now with OTA update rolling out I have to unroot. Wonder why I rooted in the first place...
The only good thing about rooting so far is being able to remove bloatware (flipboard, etc.). What are other benefits? No wireless tether yet (and I'm sure there will be a non-root solution to this coming), no access to google wallet, tweaking CPU or other settings is not really a concern since phone is so snappy with stock rom unrooted. I don't think the benefits of rooting justify the hassle and disadvantages (such as not being able to receive OTA update) of rooting.
What do you think?

For the fun of tinkering?
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For the fun of tinkering?
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This.........
And knowing you can restore from backup if something goes wrong. Everyone has their own reasons for root. But just knowing if you want to tinker around with your device, you can.

kg1128 said:
I rooted my GN2 the day I bought it but now with OTA update rolling out I have to unroot. Wonder why I rooted in the first place...
The only good thing about rooting so far is being able to remove bloatware (flipboard, etc.). What are other benefits? No wireless tether yet (and I'm sure there will be a non-root solution to this coming), no access to google wallet, tweaking CPU or other settings is not really a concern since phone is so snappy with stock rom unrooted. I don't think the benefits of rooting justify the hassle and disadvantages (such as not being able to receive OTA update) of rooting.
What do you think?
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You can be rooted and still receive the OTA update. As long as you dont remove any system apps or install a custom recovery you are good to go! If you would like to keep root during OTA you can enable SuperSU survival mode also.

mrcrptguy said:
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If your asking yourself why root then why did you choose to root? Root is awesome for people who love to play around with their devices and make changes to them to fit their needs. If you think the device is awesome the way it is then the only reason to root would probably be for backing up your apps.
To proper answer this question. "So why root?". Because we want to. Not everyone shares our joy of rooting but this is XDA and most of what we do here revolves around having a rooted device.

If u dont want to root then the question should be why android ? U like being limited to what the company gives u dont u ?
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With rooting you can customize your device as you like
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kg1128 said:
I rooted my GN2 the day I bought it but now with OTA update rolling out I have to unroot. Wonder why I rooted in the first place...
The only good thing about rooting so far is being able to remove bloatware (flipboard, etc.). What are other benefits? No wireless tether yet (and I'm sure there will be a non-root solution to this coming), no access to google wallet, tweaking CPU or other settings is not really a concern since phone is so snappy with stock rom unrooted. I don't think the benefits of rooting justify the hassle and disadvantages (such as not being able to receive OTA update) of rooting.
What do you think?
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There is a laundry list of benefits to rooting your device, too many to list here, but the main reason IMO is so you can make your device YOUR own!
Eventually the DEVs will have the OTA built into their ROMS and tweeks. You also benefit from adding the BEST features and tweeks that often are not included in Stock builds, or are actually screwed up by Stock builds and updates. You can also just root your device and stay mostly stock, then add features, mods, and tweeks at your liking.
So, for me, its all about having options and being able to set up the device how I like it best. I think you'll find most people on here feel the same way. For me, I don't even activate a device unless its rooted first... Not rooting is kind of like having a Sports car and not being able to do any mods to it,- no air cleaners, no wheels, no gauges, no upgrades, just having to leave it the way you bought isn't ANY fun!
Thanks to all the people who work hard to make the good stuff happen!
ROOT IT :good:

It's not that complicated to un root and takes 60 seconds. ..

Full App+Data backup/restore and tethering.
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You can be rooted and still receive the OTA update. As long as you dont remove any system apps or install a custom recovery you are good to go! If you would like to keep root during OTA you can enable SuperSU survival mode also.
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That's not been my experience with my GS3. I've attempted to install the few OTA's that have come for the phone and while you can hit the Install now button, it fails to actually install it. Only once I unrooted did it actually complete.

I root cause its there.
Actually, its for the Ad Block and Titanium Backup and then Tether whenever that comes along.

I did it so I could meet and date supermodels

to get rid of ads, I also plan on putting the perseus kernal on it so I can charge my phone with a car charger. and as everyone else stated, to be able to make it how I like it.

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In 8bit color?

kg1128 said:
I rooted my GN2 the day I bought it but now with OTA update rolling out I have to unroot. Wonder why I rooted in the first place...
The only good thing about rooting so far is being able to remove bloatware (flipboard, etc.). What are other benefits? No wireless tether yet (and I'm sure there will be a non-root solution to this coming), no access to google wallet, tweaking CPU or other settings is not really a concern since phone is so snappy with stock rom unrooted. I don't think the benefits of rooting justify the hassle and disadvantages (such as not being able to receive OTA update) of rooting.
What do you think?
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Its still a relatively new device and dev support hasn't REALLY taken off yet IMO. Go look at the S3 forum for example and there are threads all over the place with ROMs, kernels and MODs.

[Q] Noobie Root

Hi everyone,
I just rooted my phone last night and now i'm ready to explore android. I know the question is probably been asked 1000 times but what do i do from here? I got Titanium app but that's about it. How can I:
1. Remove Bloatware
2. Get custome ROMS
3. Protect my device from malicous wares
4. Get new Widgets
5. Get paid apps? for free?
6. Modify Home Screens
7. etc
Please guide me.
Thanks

iampain13 said:
Hi everyone,
I just rooted my phone last night and now i'm ready to explore android. I know the question is probably been asked 1000 times but what do i do from here? I got Titanium app but that's about it. How can I:
1. Remove Bloatware
2. Get custome ROMS
3. Protect my device from malicous wares
4. Get new Widgets
5. Get paid apps? for free?
6. Modify Home Screens
7. etc
Please guide me.
Thanks
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1) Use TI to remove any Bloatware you dont want. Just make sure you do a full backup before toying around. Google "Nandroid" if you dont know how.
2) To each their own. If you want to keep wifi calling you must use one of the Tmobile based custom rom. Jedi Master 10 Rom is great.
3) See 5
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5) The devil is knocking but dont do it. Many of the great apps are already fee. Their are VERY FEW paid apps thats worth even the download. For those, its worth it just to pay a few dollars to get endless updates and feature improvements. I came from iOS, and over the years, I came to the realization that apps that are worth pirating is worth paying for. $2 or $3 are peanuts if I really like the apps and want all the latest features. Going the pirate route opens a world of hurt because anyone can infect these pirated apps. You really are ASKING FOR IT. Once you buy an app, you get it for life, so the next android device you run, these apps will continue to be useful. Pirating, honestly, is just a pain the ass. In iOS I would pirate to honestly try out an app, 90% of which I never even use a gain. In Android, its just too risky to be infected with malware. Pirating Android apps is just not worth the hassle.
6) Go wild, try Nova Launcher free

inspron said:
1) Use TI to remove any Bloatware you dont want. Just make sure you do a full backup before toying around. Google "Nandroid" if you dont know how.
2) To each their own. If you want to keep wifi calling you must use one of the Tmobile based custom rom. Jedi Master 10 Rom is great.
3) See 5
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5) The devil is knocking but dont do it. Many of the great apps are already fee. Their are VERY FEW paid apps thats worth even the download. For those, its worth it just to pay a few dollars to get endless updates and feature improvements. I came from iOS, and over the years, I came to the realization that apps that are worth pirating is worth paying for. $2 or $3 are peanuts if I really like the apps and want all the latest features. Going the pirate route opens a world of hurt because anyone can infect these pirated apps. You really are ASKING FOR IT. Once you buy an app, you get it for life, so the next android device you run, these apps will continue to be useful. Pirating, honestly, is just a pain the ass. In iOS I would pirate to honestly try out an app, 90% of which I never even use a gain. In Android, its just too risky to be infected with malware. Pirating Android apps is just not worth the hassle.
6) Go wild, try Nova Launcher free
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Thanks for the advice. I'll do a search for Jedi Master 10 Rom. The problem is I still haven't mess around much so I don't really know how ROM works or installing them.

iampain13 said:
Thanks for the advice. I'll do a search for Jedi Master 10 Rom. The problem is I still haven't mess around much so I don't really know how ROM works or installing them.
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The "basic" understanding, for now, when it comes to roms is only flash ones strictly designated for your particular phone model. At least until you get more comfortable with this device, that should be rule number 1. Next thing is to decide what kind of rom you prefer, as there are two basic categories as of right now. 1. Touchwiz based, and, 2. AOSP, AOKP, or other nonTW based roms (like CM, paranoid Android, carbon, etc).
A lot would breakdown 1. Touchwiz based into two subcategories A. Stock (or rooted-stock) and B. Custom TW based... really no difference here but if you like allshare than stay stock (or rooted stock) where as if you dont use allshare then a custom TW still keeps full SPen functionality while allowing OC/UV and other rom specific features, etc.
If TW doesn't float your boat, or you'd rather stay more up to date with like latest 4.2+ releases then option 2 (AOSP, AOKP, etc) roms will be your best bet...
As far as rooting you got various ways but all threads provide adequate instructions
Custom recovery has 2 options CWM and TWRP (I use TWRP, but it shouldn't make a difference, unless the flash OP calls for either one).. Also Odin/Mobile Odin is something you may want to look into
Don't flash anything that mess with your modem/radio/efs (unless you know what your doing and have the right backups)
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iampain13 said:
Thanks for the advice. I'll do a search for Jedi Master 10 Rom. The problem is I still haven't mess around much so I don't really know how ROM works or installing them.
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If you run custom roms no need to worry about bloatware really if you just plan to root just freeze with TB dont uninstall as that can cause some bad behavior. On a side note I highly recommend Jedi XX its awesome!

sleepy8686 said:
If you run custom roms no need to worry about bloatware really if you just plan to root just freeze with TB dont uninstall as that can cause some bad behavior. On a side note I highly recommend Jedi XX its awesome!
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+1 you can't go wrong with any version of Jedi ROMs.
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Gnex slowing down for apprently no reason

Hi guys, I'm writing in desperate need of help.
I've had this GNex for a little less than 2 years and it always worked great until January when I started to have a lot of problems and bringing it to the technical center at the end of March I found out it had major hardware problems, but luckly I still had the warranty back then.
Now, since more or less 3 weeks, it started out of the blue to have great slowing down problems: apps take a lot to open and are often unresponsive and when I tap the power button it takes up to 5 seconds to start the screen.
I don't have a lor of apps, but uninstalling some of them it seemed like it's a little faster.
BTW, if it matters, I've never flashed alternative ROMs, I've always been on stock, and now it's not even rooted.
Is there something that I can do without factory resetting?
I'd prefer to keep it as the last possible option, 'cause I've not much time in this period and it would be a mess having to install again all the apps and stuff.
Thanks

I've heard that our GNEX makes problems with less than 3 GB of free space . Look how much memory are still available on SD card.
Sorry for my English.

Having almost 8gb free I doubt this is the problem

sciacallo010 said:
Having almost 8gb free I doubt this is the problem
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whats installed? have you updated/installed anything recently? do you have social media apps running all the time? have you cleared caches from apps/recovery? check your memory usage. use an app like Smart Booster to clean up the RAM.
there are also SO many advantages to at LEAST rooting the device.

dragonhart6505 said:
whats installed? have you updated/installed anything recently? do you have social media apps running all the time? have you cleared caches from apps/recovery? check your memory usage. use an app like Smart Booster to clean up the RAM.
there are also SO many advantages to at LEAST rooting the device.
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As soon as I'll have some time, hopefully this afternoon, I'll check all those things, thanks.
For the rooting thing I didn't do it just because I still haven't had time, I plan to do it in the future.
Talking about advantages are you talking in general or also about this specific issue?

sciacallo010 said:
As soon as I'll have some time, hopefully this afternoon, I'll check all those things, thanks.
For the rooting thing I didn't do it just because I still haven't had time, I plan to do it in the future.
Talking about advantages are you talking in general or also about this specific issue?
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well aside from the obvious (flashing/backups/unlocking) there are loads of useful apps in the Play Store that require root to help optimize the Android system. My favorites are Root Uninstaller and Disable Service. now, i know what im doing with these apps so they suit my needs pretty well and i havent broken anything (yet) but they are quite self explanitory. they both do pretty much the same thing, but on a different scale.
Root Uninstaller does just that...it allows you to uninstall ANYTHING from your device, including system apps that you normally wouldnt be able to. it also allows you to freeze apps or convert user apps (apps YOU installed) to system apps (this is very situational). it also reads your sdcard (internal in the case of the GNex) and finds apk's and can install them as well.
Disable Service is pretty much an advanced version of Root Uninstaller. it allows you to freeze/uninstall apps with the added ability to freeze any PROCESS that an app might run. for example, you could completely disable Bluetooth functionality (meaning any time you try to turn it on it just wont) or you can disable just Bluetooth file transfer. its really handy for showing what processes are running in the background and how many of them are from one app/how many that app can run. so, say you dont use an app feature but you still the app. fine, disable just that feature. its not TOO terribly complicated to understand as long as you know what does what, but hopefully i described it well enough.
basically what im getting at is these apps can free up so much memory/RAM by disabling/uninstalling apps or processes that run in the background when you just dont want them to with the ability to unlock them when you do.
then there is Titanium Backup. if you dont know what this app is, or never heard of it, you must live under some damn large rocks lol
lastly, using the Galaxy Nexus Toolkit you can root your phone in quite literally 30 seconds...just sayin >_<

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lastly, using the Galaxy Nexus Toolkit you can root your phone in quite literally 30 seconds...just sayin >_<
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Yeah, I well know that, before I had to bring it to the technical service it was rooted.
Thanks for the suggestions, while I know very well Titanium (it saved mt life more than once), I've never heard of the other apps you mentioned, so I'll try them.

I just runned Smart Booster and I'm totally amazed, the phone is way smoother, I hope it'll last.
I think that now I'll root time, I just have one last question: if I well remember to root I need to have the phone unlocked (the tech service locked it again), will it wipe it?

sciacallo010 said:
I just runned Smart Booster and I'm totally amazed, the phone is way smoother, I hope it'll last.
I think that now I'll root time, I just have one last question: if I well remember to root I need to have the phone unlocked (the tech service locked it again), will it wipe it?
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Glad it worked for ya ^_^
No it shouldn't wipe your phone, also unlocking the bootloader isn't required for root

Great, can you link me a guide to root it without unlocking? The nexus toolkit wants me to unlock before rooting, so I have to go for another way...

sciacallo010 said:
Great, can you link me a guide to root it without unlocking? The nexus toolkit wants me to unlock before rooting, so I have to go for another way...
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What Android version are you on?

4.3

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4.3
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Ah, OK. There ISNT a method of rooting without unlocking the bootloader on 4.3/4.4 and sadly it will reset the phone, but it will not wipe the SD data

Lol, that's ok, I just need to wait when I'll have some time to backup some things and do the whole thing, thank you dragonhart you've been very helpful

sciacallo010 said:
Lol, that's ok, I just need to wait when I'll have some time to backup some things and do the whole thing, thank you dragonhart you've been very helpful
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Hey no problem!
I been fixing/flashing/porting this thing for about a year. I've got so many phones in my office (including S5/One M8/iphones) this still the one I pick up and play with as my DD. I can understand why you would want it to run at its top performance!

sciacallo010 said:
Lol, that's ok, I just need to wait when I'll have some time to backup some things and do the whole thing, thank you dragonhart you've been very helpful
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Unlocking the bootloader will wipe everything on the phone. Use helium to backup apps and then backup everything to your computer.
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mrgnex said:
Unlocking the bootloader will wipe everything on the phone. Use helium to backup apps and then backup everything to your computer.
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Yes unlocking bootloader to root has always been the only way for Nexus devices and it will definitely wipe everything!

[Q] Lollipop or KitKat with root/bootstrap

Lets just say we get root before L is released for the AT&T Note 4. What would you do? Hold off and hope for a bootstrap so you can put a custom variation of L or any other rom, or just bite the bullet and take the update knowing you may never have root again? I think this is a dilemma that a lot of us will be facing soon.
CAN A MODERATOR MOVE THIS TO GENERAL SECTION?

Root is more important. I'd rather have adblock and tibu than lollipop.

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Root is more important. Id rather have adblock and tibu than lollipop.
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I absolutely agree! Xposed, tibu, and Adaway!

With some user experience with a locked phone.
If you ever want to root never update officially as any chances of safely rooting becomes exponentially harder than before the update.
Stay away from those tempting lolipops when they arrive...

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Root is more important. I'd rather have adblock and tibu than lollipop.
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That's what I thought until I actually searched.
Adblock plus is a non-root version that works just as well (you just have to set your wifi and APN to proxy localhost port 2020) and there are about a billion backup alternatives...
Honestly stock rom is so smooth I might just upgrade and forget about it, custom roms always need tweaking and have some little thing I can't get perfect that bugs me.

v3ngence said:
That's what I thought until I actually searched.
Adblock plus is a non-root version that works just as well (you just have to set your wifi and APN to localhost proxy port 2020) and there are about a billion backup alternatives...
Honestly stock rom is so smooth I might just upgrade and forget about it, custom roms always need tweaking and have some little thing I can't get perfect that bugs me.
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I completely agree with you. Without an unlocked bootloader, we would just get stock Touchwiz roms anyways.
I've had many rooted Samsung phones over the past few years so I know the song and dance. The only difference between stock and a custom rom is the custom rom will be debloated, possibly have baked in extra features (which are usually alternatively achieved with xposed modules) and possibly a theme.
Take those things away, and it performs no different than stock Touchwiz. Believe me, any perceived performance difference is pure placebo. I've done many of my own tests to confirm this.
But to sum up my rant, I'm completely happy with this phone without root. It's overrated to be honest.

What version of adblock doesn't require root? Can you put up a link?

Just want to get rid of the bloat they stuff down our throats. I hate it and that really irritating ATT logo. I doubt I'll miss Lollipop, just as I never missed any of the updates that came after I rooted my Note 2 on day one.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
I completely agree with you. Without an unlocked bootloader, we would just get stock Touchwiz roms anyways.
I've had many rooted Samsung phones over the past few years so I know the song and dance. The only difference between stock and a custom rom is the custom rom will be debloated, possibly have baked in extra features (which are usually alternatively achieved with xposed modules) and possibly a theme.
Take those things away, and it performs no different than stock Touchwiz. Believe me, any perceived performance difference is pure placebo. I've done many of my own tests to confirm this.
But to sum up my rant, I'm completely happy with this phone without root. It's overrated to be honest.
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I agree that a custom rom seems less and less needed. I've been OK with the stock rom so far but do wish we had a root for xposed and be able to write to microsd
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The only big drawback for me and not having root is the SD card lockdown. I mean really, it is external storage and any app I chose should be allowed to wright to it when I request it.

adblock plus website...
adblock works without root by routing apps through it this does not require root.
If you have root it automatically changes the settings etc but if you don't it tells you what settings you have to manually input to get it to work just the same no root required but root preferred.

I'm in the middle... I've always rooted my phones... Just like the different customizations, but with this phone, I'm completely happy with it as is.. I just put different themes on it to spice up whatever I feel I want... But I'd at least like the option to root, if I wanted, but to answer the question, of L comes out before root is acquired, I'm definitely upgrading

Really rather have root but if it doesn't then I wouldn't mind. So far I'm really enjoying the note 4. I'm not even seeing TouchWiz stutters everything is smooth and even the stock keyboard which I usually change anyway I'm liking more and more.
But I do have to agree don't get me wrong the devs I respect for all their time and work, but I'm not into stock custom rom. It also feels nice to just use the phone for what it is. With me I was always tweaking and doing so much I never really fully enjoyed the phone.

I'd rather have root. I was wondering if I'm going to keep the note or use my rooted and safestrapped s5. But something about the note makes it hard to put down.

AndroiderM said:
What version of adblock doesn't require root? Can you put up a link?
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I like this one:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stulchik.adblock.reklama&hl=en
JudgeDredd67 said:
The only big drawback for me and not having root is the SD card lockdown. I mean really, it is external storage and any app I chose should be allowed to wright to it when I request it.
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It was a minor annoyance for me, the camera app defaulted to sd storage and I can save pics but not edit or delete, so I just changed default storage to phone.
Also it's nice to have a really clean, organized sd card IMO I didn't like all the app data folders...

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I like this one:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stulchik.adblock.reklama&hl=en...
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Unfortunately I get this when I click on it:
"This item isn't available in your country" (usa)
You wouldn't by chance have a link to an apk I could side load?
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Dumbo53 said:
Unfortunately I get this when I click on it:
"This item isn't available in your country" (usa)
You wouldn't by chance have a link to an apk I could side load?
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I actually found out it was causing network lag, so I switched to the real ABP: https://adblockplus.org/en/android-install
But it works the same way, the app tells you how to set up your wifi proxy, but you can just add proxy "localhost" port 2020 to your apn and its works on 4g too!

ViperAudio would be nice

[Q] We have root? Great! What can it do?

Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.
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So the Note 4 is actually my first device I've owned where I didn't have an unlocked bootloader. Because of this, I'm not sure whether all the modifications I've made to my past devices were enabled because I had an unlocked bootloader.
The only thing I know we can't do is install custom roms.
So... that leaves me with a question. What kinds of things can we do with just root?
On top of that, I have some specific questions (Might think of more later) :
Will root let us be able to install the auto-brightness control that the international version of the Note 4 has? If you don't know, you're able to adjust how low or high the auto brightness stages will go without turning off auto brightness on that version. It's so much nicer than having to turn off auto, adjust to where you want, and then remember to turn auto back on when you leave that environment.
Can we remap the capacitive multitask button to be a menu button instead? And to remap long-pressing that button to be the new multitask?
Thanks!

There's safe strap which allows us to have custom roms.

droidx2.3.3 said:
There's safe strap which allows us to have custom roms.
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did they get a safestrap to work?

I'm assuming that they will. I suppose I should have worded my post different.
So it should have said, if we get safe strap we will be able to have custom roms.
It's not quiet the same as a unlocked bootloader though.

We have root?
what proof?

Well regardless of whether we have custom roms through some other means, I'd personally most interested in those 2 questions I stated. That's honestly the things I want most with root at the moment.

Where is root?

Root has not been proven yet. Patience. Everyone is jumping the gun here.

Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.

Hobox10 said:
Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.
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My main and only real reason for wanting root is for Ad Block ESPECIALLY in youtube. I hate those commercials... You can install Ad Block without root (as I just did) but it just doesn't seem to work as well as it did with my last rooted device... Although I'm not sure if this is the app devs getting more creative with how they get ads through or possibly even a Lollipop things...
The other main reason was so Rocket Player could delete podcasts I had already listened too.. That was resolved with the Lollipop update so I am good to go there...
Some really like Root for Titanium backup to back up ALL app data and settings... This was handy for me back when I was flashing ROMS all the time but without that capability I don't see myself having much of a need for that since the games I play store the data in the Android folder which I don't need root to copy/backup
Another great thing that has come about the last year or so is Xposed modules.. These give you just about ANY customization you could possibly want but of course in order to use them you will also need root..... There is a great app that pulls the commercials from Youtube which I will be checking out if Root is actually here... As I said before I hate hate the ads... Not that I don't buy FULL versions of some of the apps if I find them useful because I do... But with things like Chrome and Youtube I really miss the option of them being disabled... Yes I know Firefox has this built in but I like y Chrome for the ability to send pages from my PC to my phone with the click of a button....
I find that the Note 4 with the help of Apex PRO has helped me gain many of the features I once wanted Root and the ability to flash things for... So now I am just looking for the ability to kill some ads....
There are also a few apps I would delete or freeze with Titanium Backup once we had that option... Turning them off is nice but I want the space back...

dr12volt1338 said:
My main and only real reason for wanting root is for Ad Block ESPECIALLY in youtube. I hate those commercials... You can install Ad Block without root (as I just did) but it just doesn't seem to work as well as it did with my last rooted device... Although I'm not sure if this is the app devs getting more creative with how they get ads through or possibly even a Lollipop things...
The other main reason was so Rocket Player could delete podcasts I had already listened too.. That was resolved with the Lollipop update so I am good to go there...
Some really like Root for Titanium backup to back up ALL app data and settings... This was handy for me back when I was flashing ROMS all the time but without that capability I don't see myself having much of a need for that since the games I play store the data in the Android folder which I don't need root to copy/backup
Another great thing that has come about the last year or so is Xposed modules.. These give you just about ANY customization you could possibly want but of course in order to use them you will also need root..... There is a great app that pulls the commercials from Youtube which I will be checking out if Root is actually here... As I said before I hate hate the ads... Not that I don't buy FULL versions of some of the apps if I find them useful because I do... But with things like Chrome and Youtube I really miss the option of them being disabled... Yes I know Firefox has this built in but I like y Chrome for the ability to send pages from my PC to my phone with the click of a button....
I find that the Note 4 with the help of Apex PRO has helped me gain many of the features I once wanted Root and the ability to flash things for... So now I am just looking for the ability to kill some ads....
There are also a few apps I would delete or freeze with Titanium Backup once we had that option... Turning them off is nice but I want the space back...
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I'm with you on the adblock and it's one of the things I've been looking forward too also. The ads mobile gets is ridiculous, I'm fine with them on most websites on the computer but the mobile versions really kill some things.
Xposed is an interesting topic to me, I've never had any experience with it since I've never really needed it. It will be fun to see what they do. Thanks for the info.

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Do you know if they release their root tool now? If they do, where is it?

52yt said:
Do you know if they release their root tool now? If they do, where is it?
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The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
Sent from my SM-N915V

2swizzle said:
The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
Sent from my SM-N915V
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Good point I forgot about being able to add multi window for non supported apps... It would be really nice for Tapatalk to support it

Ooh multi-window on almost any app sounds awesome!

you can remove pre-loaded carrier apps that cause sluggish instability. improve battery life, and speed up application start times.

Mw-pen app enabler, ive been using since i got this phone. Let's you add apps to multi window. Should work for non system apps. It's worked for me. been my solution until we get root, if we do.

djnikkofb said:
you can remove pre-loaded carrier apps that cause sluggish instability. improve battery life, and speed up application start times.
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Just an fyi: You can disable bloatware without having root by using @gatesjunior's Debloater utility. Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2998294
2swizzle said:
The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
Sent from my SM-N915V
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Daciple said:
Mw-pen app enabler, ive been using since i got this phone. Let's you add apps to multi window. Should work for non system apps. It's worked for me. been my solution until we get root, if we do.
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I had no idea that existed or was possible without root. Great find!