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Marketplace expanding too slowly

MS announced on MIX that they will expand the marketplace over some areas and also the ability where devs can sell apps.
I hoped they will do this more quickly when I bought my Omnia in December last year and I also expect they will add Slovenia on their map as it is in EU and the WP7 phones are sold OFFICIALLY by the carriers (badly ofcourse as there's no adverts as nobody would advert a smartphone without a store).
Well last week they announced few new countries and the only unsupported EU countries are Slovenia, Bulgaria, Romania, Slovakia, Lithuania and Latvia (sorry if I forgot or count one too much =P..) It's total bullsh*t they don't support the whole EU.
I just can't watch how crapDroid phones are dominating here... even appstore is here for quite some time and we don't even have the iPhone officially sold (only iPods and now also iPads)
It's also stupid as Nokia is still the most selling phone brand here and with good ads WP7 could dominate here quickly.
Microsoft is definetly too slow !

Lol crapdroid...
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Yes, don't really understand why MS is so restricted on market expansion. Many people with USD payable credit cards from non-US areas still cannot purchase apps.

I like Crapdroids. The best among all.

what a pity,i live in China,i am always thingking that our country's stution is so bad that you have to pay a lot of money to buy an iphone device,today i realize that your country is worse than our country
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why you guys don't jailbreak?
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zdncs said:
why you guys don't jailbreak?
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What can I get with "jailbraking" ? Cracked Xbl games don't give you any arhivments and lot of them ain't workig. I would just like to buy something and MS don't want my money.. weird eh ? xP

i think? u can add ur(and any other, IT DOESNT MATTER from WHERE) credit card to a US-XBOX-Live account, then add that acc as a primary live-syncing one on your phone... i know, that doesnt solve the problem, but if ur in a desperate need to "give ur money" to ms- i think this will help...

Yeah and when it will launch in slovenia then what ? Use USA acc all my life ? nope.. thank you xP And I'm not willing to sync 2 WL accounts all the time for contacts and other things...
Inace kaj vas se pordavaat WP7 telefoni na One, VIP ili T-mobile ? =D

uristic said:
Yeah and when it will launch in slovenia then what ? Use USA acc all my life ?
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That's actually not such a bad option if you pull it off. US account will always give you more features, apps, and at a smaller price (there's no VAT, among other things). You'll only get proper Zune services with a US account.
Otherwise you'll have to repurchase apps. That sounds silly but it's just 100 bucks or so, not that big of a deal.
Also, sometimes when they expand their services to other markets they let you transfer your account to your real location (i.e. that happened with XBox Live recently). But you can't count on it of course.
Oh, and one more thing. I made a mistake of setting up an Apple account giving a real location. Apart from not getting a number of apps (i.e. the Rage game) as a result, I ran into much more useless rankings and user reviews. A lot of people complain about great apps solely for the reason they didn't understand the English description or some such nonsense.

uristic said:
Inace kaj vas se pordavaat WP7 telefoni na One, VIP ili T-mobile ? =D
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makedonskiot ti e odlicen....
site tri kompanii prodavat wp7...
vip-optimus7
one-omnia7
t-mobile-hd7,mozart...
topol pozzz

XBL Gold and Zune Pass

I don't know about you guys, but I am hoping with the re-branding of Zune the Zune pass gets rolled into the XBL Gold membership anyone else think this is a good idea or will happen?

It would be nice. I don't see why there isn't a combined XBL / Zune subscription that also allows access to movies via the 360. I'd definitely pay for that combo.

I was wondering about why Microsoft would mimic with Zune same behavior of iTune in first place?

That'd be great, but it'd have to be discounted. No point in just adding the extra £89 for Zune pass on top of the £40 Xbox Live Gold subscription.
Maybe some something like £100 total?
Obviously the figure would depend on your current prices in the US etc.

Freypal said:
It would be nice. I don't see why there isn't a combined XBL / Zune subscription that also allows access to movies via the 360. I'd definitely pay for that combo.
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Perhaps it's because I'm in the US, but since I have an XBL Gold account and a Zune Pass tied to the same gamertag all movies/TV shows I purchase on Zune are visible in the Zune market on my Xbox automatically and vice/versa. I have bought season passes to shows whilst sitting on my couch and then later downloaded an episode to my Zune or my phone for watching on a plane.

Yeah should definately be a combo deal. The main problem I have with ZunePass (in the UK anyway) is the lack of the 10 download tokens as offered in the US. Paying £8.99 a month and not recieving anything permanent in return is a little bit of a dissapointing and the main reason I no longer pay for the pass. I think they really could have been massive competition to iTunes had they sorted this out. Really hope they can get it together in line for Mango release.
They are doing so much right in other areas, the Zune Software is gorgeous, the Free Tracks given away is a great pulling point, the Bing features coming soon, the social aspect etc...we just need tokens, podcasts, and web marketplace!
Running trend with Microsoft on services sometimes - so close to topping but falling short at the last hurdle.
I don't think rebranding is the answer at all. I actually like Zune. I don't understand why they didn't just categorise certain handsets this way. IE the HTC Surround as a Zune Phone (powered by WP7). Trophy as an XBox Phone (powered by WP7) etc..
Not to fragment the WP7 line in terms of features, but to promote certain aspects to consumers. XBox phones could come with MS Points vouchers exclusive Avatar items, branded up a little, whilst the Zune phones could do the same with Music Tracks, preinstalled apps (ie Last.fm etc) different themes etc etc...

i like wp7

Google Music works on IE9 on Mango (7112+ only)

Hey everyone I just wanted to point out that Google Music works in IE9 in Mango ! It only works on 7112 or higher though. I dont know how many people already know this but I think I should just point it out . The best thing is you dont need to be in the browser to listen to your music !

Yes it does work Just tried it on my Omnia 7 with 7720.
I thought it used flash to play the songs...
But only the pause/play button works, not previous/next.

From what I remember, it won't move on to the next track in the playlist/album while the browser isn't open.

PG2G said:
From what I remember, it won't move on to the next track in the playlist/album while the browser isn't open.
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Yes, but considering it's a website designed for the desktop it's pretty good.
But anyway, I find Google Music very useless, since it's MY OWN MUSIC, that I already have stored on the phone :|

jotapm said:
Yes, but considering it's a website designed for the desktop it's pretty good.
But anyway, I find Google Music very useless, since it's MY OWN MUSIC, that I already have stored on the phone :|
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Well, its pretty nice if u have an 8 gig phone and are running out of space

I'm running 7.10.7712.60 in a 1.3v Samsung Focus. I tried to play a song and it states I need to install flash. What am I missing?

Seed 2.0 said:
I'm running 7.10.7712.60 in a 1.3v Samsung Focus. I tried to play a song and it states I need to install flash. What am I missing?
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flash？I think mango only can use html5
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jotapm said:
Yes, but considering it's a website designed for the desktop it's pretty good.
But anyway, I find Google Music very useless, since it's MY OWN MUSIC, that I already have stored on the phone :|
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did you not notice the "free" section ?
also, uploading from your computer means streaming THAT library to your phone... anywhere and saving that measely 8gb of space for important stuff like Microsoft Premium Wow Zing Edition 2012 superlative Edition. documents. or whatever.

Yay.
More ways to consume ridiculous amounts of data and bring the network to a grinding halt (wifi OR 3g).

andrewkeith5 said:
Yay.
More ways to consume ridiculous amounts of data and bring the network to a grinding halt (wifi OR 3g).
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well, the data has to come from somewhere... insufficient storage or insufficient bandwidth, it gives the user another choise. choise is good.

ohgood said:
well, the data has to come from somewhere... insufficient storage or insufficient bandwidth, it gives the user another choise. choise is good.
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Choice isn't good when you're destroying the bandwidth of the network to others' detriment. That's exactly why FUPs have to be used.

can't imagine that google music would be easy on bandwidth

andrewkeith5 said:
Choice isn't good when you're destroying the bandwidth of the network to others' detriment. That's exactly why FUPs have to be used.
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if you're sold 4g, or 3g when you sign the contract, the ISPshould have enough capacity to handle each and every customer using what they were sold. if they do not, they are not being truthful in their advertising, or their contracts.
I have zero sympathy for isps that oversell and under deliver.

Yes, which is why most contracts have a FUP, so that they can do that.
It's just a shame that some users have some ridiculous expectation that they should have infinite access to the finite network resources, which results in the overall network becoming bogged down.
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if you're sold 4g, or 3g when you sign the contract, the ISPshould have enough capacity to handle each and every customer using what they were sold. if they do not, they are not being truthful in their advertising, or their contracts.
I have zero sympathy for isps that oversell and under deliver.
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andrewkeith5 said:
Yes, which is why most contracts have a FUP, so that they can do that.
It's just a shame that some users have some ridiculous expectation that they should have infinite access to the finite network resources, which results in the overall network becoming bogged down.
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unlimited 4g is what is being sold. it either is, or it isn't. of late isps are charging MORE for 1.5gb data contracts than they were for "unlimited" a couple of years ago.
if they ever update the supporting towers and backends servers, I could see your point. as it is, att can't handle all their contracted subscribers, nor tmo, nor any isp.
then they act as though they're doing everyone a favor for throttling users, who were SOLD on the idea of unlimited. "unlimited" is a fairly self explanitary word, no asterisk required, nor should it be allowed. truth in advertising... that's all I want.

I'm getting the impression that AT&T in the US are very much like 3 over here in the UK - oversell for a cheap price and then don't support properly.
Unfortunately I can't speak for the US, but here in the UK there are regulations and laws governing advertising, and already mobile phone networks are being forced to make FUPs more prominent - in fact, "Unlimited*" is pretty much gone from UK mobile networks - you either get true Unlimited or a clearly stated limit.
The point of a Fair Use Policy is exactly that - to ensure everyone on the network acts fairly. If you are automatically charged for exceeding a FUP then you need to challenge it, but if you routinely exceed it then you'll be charged, naturally.
Essentially a FUP is the networks way of saying "Use as much data as you like, but if you take the piss and it starts affecting the network performance, we'll start charging you more" - generally FUPs are WAY higher than the data you would use from heavy use web browsing, they are designed more to discourage sitting there watching hours of video over a mobile connection, when you really should either be on WiFi or keep the video on internal storage.

Yep, it's works

Zune Pass coming to Canada Oct 3rd

Apparently finally an end to the crippled Zune experience in Canada it seems..
http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-drops-zune-pass-price-in-us-and-expands-it-to-canada/
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You're gonna love this as Zune Pass was the main reason I even considered WP7.

lbp775 said:
You're gonna love this as Zune Pass was the main reason I even considered WP7.
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agreed. Been waiting for it. I've even got a ZuneHD. Lol im looking forward to the dam artist backgrounds etc on my WP7. My Zune does it and its nice eye candy. I imagine I'll subscribe and try it out. I use my phone for Bluetooth music in my car and at work.

In addition to that, if you don't have it by that date, the price will be only $9.99 and you won't get any 10 free tracks every month.
Good and Bad.

N8ter said:
In addition to that, if you don't have it by that date, the price will be only $9.99 and you won't get any 10 free tracks every month.
Good and Bad.
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yeah I see that...the free tracks would've been nice but at least the neighbours up north are finally getting it. Long time coming.

N8ter said:
In addition to that, if you don't have it by that date, the price will be only $9.99 and you won't get any 10 free tracks every month.
Good and Bad.
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Actually, that's great for people who don't want to spend the extra five, although I do. Considering Spotify, Zune needed a cheaper option. Wonder if they could do a streaming only option for free?

Great, now I can use my real Windows Live ID, unfortunately I bought a bunch of games on this US based account.
But this problem with messenger integrated to your primary ID is total bullcrap.
My mind is spinning to decide what the hell to do.

Wyn6 said:
Actually, that's great for people who don't want to spend the extra five, although I do. Considering Spotify, Zune needed a cheaper option. Wonder if they could do a streaming only option for free?
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It's a worse deal. They're basically giving you $9.99 to spend however you want every month with the current pricing structure, so you only pay a net $4.99 per month for Zune Pass. With the change, it's a worse deal - through and through.
There's no reason to now pay an extra $5 per month for $10 worth of tracks. Any Chimp can see this.
If you cannot afford that, then you can't afford to have a smartphone with a data plan, either, IMO
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bmazloum said:
Great, now I can use my real Windows Live ID, unfortunately I bought a bunch of games on this US based account.
But this problem with messenger integrated to your primary ID is total bullcrap.
My mind is spinning to decide what the hell to do.
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Use one ID and stop tying purchases to one account while trying to use another for this and that. You can always use a different IM application and/or service if you wish to be incognito.
Having this use this account and that using that account can be confusing for users, since apparently the context sensitive search button was removed due to "confusion."

I just received an email that the same plan will be forced on new users in America as well. No more 10 song downloads for new subscribers. Existing subscribers may keep the $14.99 plan as long as your subscription is maintained.
This change also takes effect on Oct 3rd.

N8ter said:
Use one ID and stop tying purchases to one account while trying to use another for this and that. You can always use a different IM application and/or service if you wish to be incognito.
Having this use this account and that using that account can be confusing for users, since apparently the context sensitive search button was removed due to "confusion."
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Yeah, that's the only solution if I want messenger integration. I picked up all the XBL games when they were deals of the week, so that kinda sucks. Achievements will all be gone now too.
It's not confusing, it's more of a thing that pissses me off. The current Live Messenger app is horrible and would rather use the integrated one, along with being organized once and for all.
Yeah, the search button change pissed me off as well. Was so much faster when searching for emails and contacts. Should've made it "hold for 2 seconds to get bing"

Kindle app not available on WP7.5 in Scandinavia (possibly other countries)

Hi all,
I was in contact today with both Amazon and Microsoft regarding an issue that neither of them had an answer to.. and they were both blaming each other on who had done a mistake, but none of them had an answer for me.
You see, Kindle (which was released on Windows Phone for something that seems like ages ago now), is not available in the Windows Phone marketplace in Scandinavia (and possibly some other markets such as for example Japan and Russia).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...ARMDJO72UN&newContentNum=84&ref_=cm_cd_pg_pg4
The Kindle app is available here in Norway in for example Android market (Google Play), in iOS (Appstore) and Mac (Appstore)... but not in the Windows Phone 7.5 marketplace. I own a Lumia 800, and I have been wanting to use this app for ages now.. does anyone know why, or can contact the right sources about this issue?
I am posting it here on XDA mostly because it seems no one, not even the company that made the app, and the one supposed to post it, has an answer for me. Therefore you could look at this post at some way of raising awareness, and hopefully someone will discover it and maybe help discover what has gone wrong in the process of publishing this app in the Windows Phone marketplace in Scandinavia (Norway, Sweden at least..) and a few other other countries.
Kind Regards
One who wants to be able to fully make the switch from my old Android phone to my now 3 month old Windows Phone.
PS. This is currently the only app I am missing to make my switch complete. Being able to read my books on the Windows Phone will be the last thing I need, currently I have to bring both phones with me at all times to read.. and that sucks.

HOFFERN342 said:
You see, Kindle (which was released on Windows Phone for something that seems like ages ago now), is not available in the Windows Phone marketplace in Scandinavia (and possibly some other markets such as for example Japan and Russia).
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I can confirm it is available and works in the US.

Yes, I know it is available in the US, and I think it is also available for the UK for example.
The thing that bothers me is of course that the Kindle app is available in the Appstore and on the Google Play market here in Norway, but not in the Windows Phone market. What makes WP so different? I cannot understand why it should not have been released by now.. and the fact that neither Microsoft nor Amazon had an answer for me and was just blaming each other, just tells me that they don't know either and should try to take it higher in the system.
As a customer I am having a hard time being able to get higher in the system, and the customer service should be able to do it for me..

http://www.matkapuhelinfoorumi.fi/f38/windows-phone-7-a-56786/index73.html#post1058439327
That post was made by the head of WP department at MS Finland in February.
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kitevesku said:
The Kindle app is only available in a few countries selected by Amazon. I've been trying to persuade Amazon for months now, but they've got their politics. Hopefully we'll get it as soon as possible, but I cannot guarantee anything.
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Same here, I live in Colombia and there's no access to either kindle nor amazon app, but they are available for other platforms. I do have access to imdb, though.
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It's not available in Greece either. However, I did find the Amazon Mobile app available today. Kindle is available in both Google Play and Appstore for download, which is needless to say, weird. The solution is quite simple, Amazon needs to resubmit the application for worldwide status, every single time Microsoft adds new countries to the marketplace, otherwise it's just there for the original countries in Worldwide status.
There's a WP Dev. email about worldwide apps needing resubmission after each addition of countries in the marketplace that goes way back to the origianl expansion of the marketplace. In my opinion, Microsoft should fix this "bug" of their's and quite honestly, get rid of that.
A quick solution would be to add a UK/US address to your account and install the app, and then change the account again back to your home country. I don't know what on earth will happen with any paid apps and updates as I've yet to try it, but if you don't have any paid applications, or you're not interested in any, a quick change will solve your issue.