XBL Gold and Zune Pass - Windows Phone 7 General

I don't know about you guys, but I am hoping with the re-branding of Zune the Zune pass gets rolled into the XBL Gold membership anyone else think this is a good idea or will happen?

It would be nice. I don't see why there isn't a combined XBL / Zune subscription that also allows access to movies via the 360. I'd definitely pay for that combo.

I was wondering about why Microsoft would mimic with Zune same behavior of iTune in first place?

That'd be great, but it'd have to be discounted. No point in just adding the extra £89 for Zune pass on top of the £40 Xbox Live Gold subscription.
Maybe some something like £100 total?
Obviously the figure would depend on your current prices in the US etc.

Freypal said:
It would be nice. I don't see why there isn't a combined XBL / Zune subscription that also allows access to movies via the 360. I'd definitely pay for that combo.
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Perhaps it's because I'm in the US, but since I have an XBL Gold account and a Zune Pass tied to the same gamertag all movies/TV shows I purchase on Zune are visible in the Zune market on my Xbox automatically and vice/versa. I have bought season passes to shows whilst sitting on my couch and then later downloaded an episode to my Zune or my phone for watching on a plane.

Yeah should definately be a combo deal. The main problem I have with ZunePass (in the UK anyway) is the lack of the 10 download tokens as offered in the US. Paying £8.99 a month and not recieving anything permanent in return is a little bit of a dissapointing and the main reason I no longer pay for the pass. I think they really could have been massive competition to iTunes had they sorted this out. Really hope they can get it together in line for Mango release.
They are doing so much right in other areas, the Zune Software is gorgeous, the Free Tracks given away is a great pulling point, the Bing features coming soon, the social aspect etc...we just need tokens, podcasts, and web marketplace!
Running trend with Microsoft on services sometimes - so close to topping but falling short at the last hurdle.
I don't think rebranding is the answer at all. I actually like Zune. I don't understand why they didn't just categorise certain handsets this way. IE the HTC Surround as a Zune Phone (powered by WP7). Trophy as an XBox Phone (powered by WP7) etc..
Not to fragment the WP7 line in terms of features, but to promote certain aspects to consumers. XBox phones could come with MS Points vouchers exclusive Avatar items, branded up a little, whilst the Zune phones could do the same with Music Tracks, preinstalled apps (ie Last.fm etc) different themes etc etc...

i like wp7

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Not seen App Store but Zune gets better...

I'm getting seriously impressed with Zune at the moment (as a UK owner).
So, I originaly purchased a Zune pass about a month ago when they first became available but signed in on the PC and X360 to only find films - none of the 8million+ songs were there! Anyway, stuck with it and not only did the music all appear and loads of music videos also last week but today i've signed in to find it flooded with WinPho7 apps.
When you consider most of this is useable across my X360, PC and soon to be my phone, its a bargain at £8 in my opinion.
Yeah I have to buy music videos at £1 each? but DRM free! and games for the phone are free or dirt cheap. If your fortunate to have disposable income each month then this is an ideal solution in my opinion!
Sorry if I'm a bit slow, but I'm getting more and more interested in WP7 despite thinking of buying a DHD. Does the ZunePass allow you to watch films aswell?
Kaph said:
Sorry if I'm a bit slow, but I'm getting more and more interested in WP7 despite thinking of buying a DHD. Does the ZunePass allow you to watch films aswell?
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no its music only

[Q] not available in teh region

Hee guys.
I have a huge problem, because i'm not able to log in the market place. I'm in the netherlands, I changed my region here https://account.live.com/summarypage.aspx
but my phone and zune software stills ays, not available, can anyone help em, please
very kind regards
victor
Computer region needs to change to US as well for zune software
lip said:
Computer region needs to change to US as well for zune software
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If they do not change this option soon WP7 will fail. There is a massive market outside the USA.
I still cant believe we have to do this when the phone is sold world wide.
agp64 said:
If they do not change this option soon WP7 will fail. There is a massive market outside the USA.
I still cant believe we have to do this when the phone is sold world wide.
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definitely true. the reason why the iPhone succeeds is because it's app store is available around the world with over 70 countries, mine included.
Getting a Windows phone was the best decision i made, until found out i can't buy paid apps off the marketplace, you need a US credit card or something.
This marketing strategy is a potential WP7 killer.
I think the app marketplace is available in most places...at least in their initial target areas. The guy is from the netherlands so I assume he's after a zune pass and for that MS is beholden to the recording industry but I believe they'll have a solution for all their target markets, perhaps not all having the zune pass, but they will all be able to buy the music.
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I think the app marketplace is available in most places...at least in their initial target areas. The guy is from the netherlands so I assume he's after a zune pass and for that MS is beholden to the recording industry but I believe they'll have a solution for all their target markets, perhaps not all having the zune pass, but they will all be able to buy the music.
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that makes me curious. Iphone has music streaming now, right? Does that work everywhere?
I think some of the problem that microsoft is having is that some countries want more money for the streaming rights than in the USA.
Apple doesn't have streaming like zune pass natively....you can get third party software in the app store I think.
The problem for sure is what the content owners want financially...I was old by an MS rep that in Canada for insance, SOCAN (content industry reps) are wanting a ridiculous amount of money...from what I gather they are not really interested in the rental idea to the point where it would make sense for a consumer to purchase it...
As much as I'd like to blame MS for incompetent negotiating, the music industry is notoriously stupid and short term in their thinking...
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The guy is from the netherlands so I assume he's after a zune pass and for that MS is beholden to the recording industry but I believe they'll have a solution for all their target markets, perhaps not all having the zune pass, but they will all be able to buy the music.
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Actually no, Zune doesn't work for apps either unless you change the region.
Zune pass does also not work in Germany but that problem is not related to MS or to Zune but to the GEMA. -> http://www.gema.de/en/
Thanks to them wanting astronomical amounts of money, most streaming services etc are not possible in Germany. REALLY annoying
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Zune pass does also not work in Germany but that problem is not related to MS or to Zune but to the GEMA. -> http://www.gema.de/en/
Thanks to them wanting astronomical amounts of money, most streaming services etc are not possible in Germany. REALLY annoying
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Same issue in Canada...it's called SOCAN here...it gets even crazier here as the artist association who already get a tax on all media want to further charge...just getting out of hand. I can't really complain about the kids these days who will just bypass it all and get it illegally or the many new artists who just bypass these corrupt associations and sell directly to their audience...
Regarding the app marketplace...that is a big FAIL if it's not available in all of Europe...I know Android marketplace only became available in Canada about a year ago but you'd think MS would have that sorted out of the gate...music I understand but the app marketplace seems silly not to have it working...it works in Canada
Well if this is not sorted out by then end of January I for one will not be upgrading to a WP7 phone.
Having no access to the app market is not going to cut it for me.
One easy solution that would solve this problem instantly would be to allow us to pay using Microsoft points, These are available to most I think.
yep MS Points would work a whole lot more. i sent the MS guys some tweets again regarding this

Considering Windows Phone 7

I currently own an iPhone 4 32GB on AT&T and I am considering a Windows Phone 7 device. Should I go ahead and sell my iPhone and purchase a device? I currently own a Zune (which I am selling) with a Zune Subscription (which I plan on keeping) and I am looking into selling my PS3 for an XBOX 360.
I have a lot of music, so that's what I do most. I also text and use the internet a lot, as well as check email. I also use Pandora quite a bit too (though with the Zune marketplace on the phone, probably not as much). I play games, but not often. I love the battery life of my iPhone. I also have an Otterbox to protect it's beauty. I am also a big fan of its screen and resolution. I use my phone as a camera too. Also, I want better navigation than what I currently get on my iPhone, which is MapQuest 4 (since the iPhone Maps sucks for navigation).
I have been considering the Samsung Focus, HTC Surround, and the LG Quantum. Are there more for AT&T I should consider? I really like the Dell Venue Pro, but it seems like it's not offered for AT&T.
So, what do you guys think? Should I jump ship? By the way, I LOVED the Zune and it's interface, if that helps.
Well really the only one who can decide is you. I'd head to a mobile store and just play with one until they kick you out. I have an LG Quantum, here are some thoughts:
-the software keyboard is. a-may-zing. I can type almost as fast on it as i can with two hands on a desktop. Bar none, the best I've ever used. If you text, this will blow you away. It just knows what you meant to type
-the zune player leaves a LOT to be desired, sound quality wise. wp7 needs an eq app soon. It'll get one, but for now, expect a flat sound. Very dissappointing.
-I don't know why I'm reading bad things about it, but the new IE is so fast it's overwhelming. It renders things very very quickly. Better than my wife's iPhone.
-the interface and UI is awesome. It's honestly the next step in smartphone software. Very impressive especially once you get used to it
-great Facebook integration. It adds all your Facebook/SIM contacts/hotmail contacts to one "contacts" app. Which at first sounds like too much. But after using it, I never want to go back. If I want to get a hold of anyone I've ever met, no matter from where, they're in my contacts hub. I can then choose to email them, post on their wall, text them, or call them. It's so quick and easy
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Well really the only one who can decide is you. I'd head to a mobile store and just play with one until they kick you out. I have an LG Quantum, here are some thoughts:
-the software keyboard is. a-may-zing. I can type almost as fast on it as i can with two hands on a desktop. Bar none, the best I've ever used. If you text, this will blow you away. It just knows what you meant to type
-the zune player leaves a LOT to be desired, sound quality wise. wp7 needs an eq app soon. It'll get one, but for now, expect a flat sound. Very dissappointing.
-I don't know why I'm reading bad things about it, but the new IE is so fast it's overwhelming. It renders things very very quickly. Better than my wife's iPhone.
-the interface and UI is awesome. It's honestly the next step in smartphone software. Very impressive especially once you get used to it
-great Facebook integration. It adds all your Facebook/SIM contacts/hotmail contacts to one "contacts" app. Which at first sounds like too much. But after using it, I never want to go back. If I want to get a hold of anyone I've ever met, no matter from where, they're in my contacts hub. I can then choose to email them, post on their wall, text them, or call them. It's so quick and easy
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I have a question on the sound. Is it comparable to the Zune, better or worse? What about in comparison to the iPhone?
I want to play with it but work and college kind of get in the way.
Like said above, go into a store and play with one. I'm gonna have to agree to everything sure said, windows phone 7 is amazing..the user interface is incredible. I've only had my HD7 for 4 days and I can't put it down. It's so smooth, the social integration with Facebook and your contacts is genius. Go play with one I doubt you'll be dissapointed
mariolopezjr said:
I currently own an iPhone 4 32GB on AT&T and I am considering a Windows Phone 7 device. Should I go ahead and sell my iPhone and purchase a device? I currently own a Zune (which I am selling) with a Zune Subscription (which I plan on keeping) and I am looking into selling my PS3 for an XBOX 360.
I have a lot of music, so that's what I do most. I also text and use the internet a lot, as well as check email. I also use Pandora quite a bit too (though with the Zune marketplace on the phone, probably not as much). I play games, but not often. I love the battery life of my iPhone. I also have an Otterbox to protect it's beauty. I am also a big fan of its screen and resolution. I use my phone as a camera too. Also, I want better navigation than what I currently get on my iPhone, which is MapQuest 4 (since the iPhone Maps sucks for navigation).
I have been considering the Samsung Focus, HTC Surround, and the LG Quantum. Are there more for AT&T I should consider? I really like the Dell Venue Pro, but it seems like it's not offered for AT&T.
So, what do you guys think? Should I jump ship? By the way, I LOVED the Zune and it's interface, if that helps.
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With that list. Go for it. Now your decision boils down to which one.
Zune player sounds just fine. He must have really bad headphones or something. But it's at the very least on par with the iPhone if not better.
However, OP, I recommend you stick with the iPhone 4 for now. Several reasons.
WP7 is currently bug infested. You should probably wait and see how and if Microsoft is going to deal with it. You also should generally wait until Mango to see whether WP7 will take off or not. It's a bit of a gamble as of right now.
If you insist on taking the chance with WP7, I recommend you wait for Nokia's WP7 phones. The current hardware is pretty good but Nokia phones will probably have nice exclusives and, if they base them on the concepts, will be the sexiest phones out there.
All signals essentially point to 'wait.'
Based on friends of mine who have made the jump, I'd say go for it. They all love the UX on Phone 7 and while the platform does miss some functionality today it's not something that you will notice on a daily basis.
In the end though, it's a question only you can answer, so I'll agree with most others here and tell you to go have a play with it in store.
I have been a long term Windows phone user (version 5, 6.1 and 6.5). Unfortunately my current MDA Vario has developed a speaker problem and I'm forced to get a new phone (T Mobile have previously 'fixed' the problem which has now returned)
What you tend to forget is that you shouldn't buy an operating system - you purchese functionality. The key thing is whether the phone can satisfy all your requirements.
As for me, Windows 7 doesn't currently satisfy 3 key requirements:
1. No internet tethering out of the box (you have to really delve down to make this work)
2. No turn by turn navigation
4. No decent ebook reader which can read either lit or mobi format (although the Kindle application has been issued, there is no easy way to load my old books which I haven't purchased from Amazon). All in all I'm very disappointed that MS Reader has not been upgraded
As a mainly business user, I'm not really too interested in Zune or Games and am a bit unhappy about syncronisation via the cloud. As a haooy Napster user (supported in 6.5), I would have to swop to Zune
So what have I decided. I have gone ahead and purchased a used HTC Diamon Pro 2 running 6.5. This will do everything I want and I will wait until Windows 7 finally catches up.
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1. No internet tethering out of the box (you have to really delve down to make this work)
2. No turn by turn navigation
4. No decent ebook reader which can read either lit or mobi format (although the Kindle application has been issued, there is no easy way to load my old books which I haven't purchased from Amazon). All in all I'm very disappointed that MS Reader has not been upgraded
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1. While I understand what you're saying it really doesn't ring true with me. If you own a Samsung you can enable tethering in 15 or so taps (including entering all the numbers).
2. Really? I have turn-by-turn on my Omnia7. Works great too. AT&T also seem to be offering some sort of navigational package, as does several other carriers around the world.
I can't comment on the ebook reader situation as I find the phone too small to read large chunks of text on anyway, but your point seems valid enough.
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As a mainly business user, I'm ... a bit unhappy about syncronisation via the cloud.
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Really? What's your problem with the cloud exactly? Not being confrontational here, just wondering what, if any, gripes you have about using a secure always available filestore. I can understand some people not wanting to store their confidential documents on a random SkyDrive, but as a business you can run a locked down Sharepoint server locally.
I moved from a 32gb iPhone 4 to a Samsung Focus on the basis of the strength of the Zune platform. There have been drawbacks to moving over to such a new platform (marketplace bug being one main one, lack of apps being another) but also benefits such as the close facebook integration, UI, live tiles and above all, the zune integration.
I've had no sense that the zune player quality is worse (nor better) than the iphone. The desktop client and zunepass blow iTunes away. There really is no comparison.
I would play around with current phones, but as someone above said, you may want to wait and see if they announce any Nokia phones in the April timeframe (MIX 11). Although I guess the resale value of the iP4 will decline after the iP4s/5 gets released this summer.
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Zune player sounds just fine. He must have really bad headphones or something. But it's at the very least on par with the iPhone if not better.
However, OP, I recommend you stick with the iPhone 4 for now. Several reasons.
WP7 is currently bug infested. You should probably wait and see how and if Microsoft is going to deal with it. You also should generally wait until Mango to see whether WP7 will take off or not. It's a bit of a gamble as of right now.
If you insist on taking the chance with WP7, I recommend you wait for Nokia's WP7 phones. The current hardware is pretty good but Nokia phones will probably have nice exclusives and, if they base them on the concepts, will be the sexiest phones out there.
All signals essentially point to 'wait.'
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A) No, my headphones are good quality. The PSP (generation ONE), and Samsung Omnia 2 blow it out of the water. They sound EQ'd, with presence and body. My Quantum just sounds flat.
B) After reading your post, you sound like a hater. So OP, please disregard his comments. Wp7 is not "bug ridden", it works just fine. Not sure why you insist on claiming getting a wp7 is "taking a chance". I think that description would be more apt to an Android phone, as the fragmentation has assured no one can tell which device will actually be good. As for wp7, there are hardware minimums across the board, and the software is smoother than silk. Haters gonna hate I suppose.
mariolopezjr said:
I currently own an iPhone 4 32GB on AT&T and I am considering a Windows Phone 7 device. Should I go ahead and sell my iPhone and purchase a device? I currently own a Zune (which I am selling) with a Zune Subscription (which I plan on keeping) and I am looking into selling my PS3 for an XBOX 360.
I have a lot of music, so that's what I do most. I also text and use the internet a lot, as well as check email. I also use Pandora quite a bit too (though with the Zune marketplace on the phone, probably not as much). I play games, but not often. I love the battery life of my iPhone. I also have an Otterbox to protect it's beauty. I am also a big fan of its screen and resolution. I use my phone as a camera too. Also, I want better navigation than what I currently get on my iPhone, which is MapQuest 4 (since the iPhone Maps sucks for navigation).
I have been considering the Samsung Focus, HTC Surround, and the LG Quantum. Are there more for AT&T I should consider? I really like the Dell Venue Pro, but it seems like it's not offered for AT&T.
So, what do you guys think? Should I jump ship? By the way, I LOVED the Zune and it's interface, if that helps.
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No. You shouldn't, especially if you already have a Zune.
That's just my opinion.
I had almost the same exact decision to make a few weeks ago. I was going to upgrade and it was either the iPhone 4 or the Samsung Focus. I went with the Samsung Focus because I already have an iPad, but it truly is a great device. Theres some bug's with it, but I'm counting on Microsoft to fix them.
Things I like:
1. Camera button
2. Interface (duh)
3. Facebook integration (I like being able to add a contact and have it automatically pull in all that users information for me)
4. Nice keyboard (like it better than the iPhones, but it still has its gripes)
5. Zune Software instead of iTunes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6. Bigger screen (Focus has a 4 inch screen and it is a big difference from the iPhone's small 3.5 inch screen)
7. Bing voice search (this is something I show all my friends. I can just say "hamburger" and it finds all the local hamburger joints around me wicked fast)
8. Flash support is coming (http://wmpoweruser.com/flash-10-2-incoming-but-no-wp7-date-announced/)
Things I don't like:
1. Marketplace is very slow, laggy, and unstable
2. Battery life isn't quite as good as the iPhone 4
3. Camera settings reset (this is not a feature Microsoft...)
4. Not as good browser (no html 5, different format that isn't quite as mobile friendly, no reordering of bookmarks).
5. Apps need PERMISSION to run under the lockscreen. If they don't even have this option they must be relaunched after you unlock your screen (why?!?!?!)
6. Less API support
7. No multitasking (will be coming this year though)
All in all make the jump as you have a 30 day period to return it (I'm still debating). If you keep it and you end up not liking it after awhile you will be just in time to upgrade to the iPhone 6 when it comes out in 2013 (possible benefit?)!
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I have a question on the sound. Is it comparable to the Zune, better or worse? What about in comparison to the iPhone?
I want to play with it but work and college kind of get in the way.
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I've never used a Zune so I can't comment, but see my other post about comparing it to other devices. My wife has an iPhone, but I've never tested them side by side (that would include hooking each one up to itunes/zune and transferring the same song, etc... I'm just way too lazy for that, sorry, at least I'm being honest)
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4. Not as good browser (no html 5, different format that isn't quite as mobile friendly, no reordering of bookmarks).
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See, there it is. I've been surfing on my phone since I got it... never had a problem rendering any site. Unless you're going to some flash-laden bloatfest, I don't understand how you can't think that this IE is fantastic.
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1. While I understand what you're saying it really doesn't ring true with me. If you own a Samsung you can enable tethering in 15 or so taps (including entering all the numbers).
2. Really? I have turn-by-turn on my Omnia7. Works great too. AT&T also seem to be offering some sort of navigational package, as does several other carriers around the world.
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1. That's one phone on one carrier. That doesn't work. If you have T-Mobile the Samsung hack will not work. It's an outliar, and non-factor in the grand scheme of things.
2. No one in their right mind pays for Turn by Turn on a smartphone unless they need offline maps. Why pay $10 a month for Navigation when an HD2 can do it for free in Windows Mobile with the Bing App? Or an Android phone with Google Maps? $10 a month is a lot to pay just for Navigation.
The only carrier that makes sense for is Sprint, since they give away their Navigation features for free if you have their $69 (soon 79) plan. But Sprint currently has no WP7 devices.
I can't comment on the ebook reader situation as I find the phone too small to read large chunks of text on anyway, but your point seems valid enough.
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That's your opinion, but you have pinch to zoom and automatic text restructuring in these apps that make it trivial to read. This wouldn't be a big issue if Microsoft had decent Skydrive integration in the phone. In that case you'd just need to upload them to you skydrive and find an app that can read that file format. But that isn't coming for over 6 months...
Really? What's your problem with the cloud exactly? Not being confrontational here, just wondering what, if any, gripes you have about using a secure always available filestore. I can understand some people not wanting to store their confidential documents on a random SkyDrive, but as a business you can run a locked down Sharepoint server locally.
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Some people just like to have better control over their stuff. There's nothing wrong with it and he doesn't have to have a problem to have this specific qualm with any smartphone platform. They are all a bit too cloud-centric, IMO.
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See, there it is. I've been surfing on my phone since I got it... never had a problem rendering any site. Unless you're going to some flash-laden bloatfest, I don't understand how you can't think that this IE is fantastic.
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There are HTML5 Mobile websites that are much better to use than their desktop (or WAP) counterparts on a smartphone browser.
touch.facebook.com >>> facebook.com or m.facebook.com on a mobile browser - by far. That is just one example. There are dozens if not more. HTML5 support being missing is a strike. NOt saying they need to implement the entire HTML5 Draft Spec tomorrow, but launching with basically no support for it was not a good idea, IMO.
With Multi-Tasking and third party browsers this would not be an issue, though, since we'd probably have Opera or some other Mobile Browser (probably WebKit) ported to it. If Microsoft had implemented a dual (Trident + WebKit) rendering engine, that would have been a killer feature... With the ability to set defaults on a site by site basis, of course.
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1. That's one phone on one carrier. That doesn't work. If you have T-Mobile the Samsung hack will not work. It's an outliar, and non-factor in the grand scheme of things.
2. No one in their right mind pays for Turn by Turn on a smartphone unless they need offline maps. Why pay $10 a month for Navigation when an HD2 can do it for free in Windows Mobile with the Bing App? Or an Android phone with Google Maps? $10 a month is a lot to pay just for Navigation.
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1. I disagree as it's not only achievable on the Samsung handsets (of which there are actually 2 available), the LG ones are just as easy. HTC handsets can also tether but IIRC, yes, you do have to dwelwe a little deeper. Point is, out of the 9 launch handsets, 4 can tether by entering a few numbers onto the phone - so do what people did way back when, chose a device based on functionality rather than looks. Also, as a business user, get yourself an off contract device - it costs the same (or in many cases less) in the long run, but gives you more choice. Also, don't forget the world is a lot larger than the US, the Omnia7 can be had on pretty much any network you like in Europe - on-contract if you so please.
2. I don't pay. Navigon came free with my off-contract Omnia7. Sure, I had to spoof the Navigon http server for map downloads other than Austria, Germany, Liechtenstein and Switzerland, but there is no monthly fee. I realize some of the other carriers do charge you (ATT being one), but the point here is that there are options available to you. Regarding paying for navigation, as much as I love Bing (or even Google) maps due to its satellite imagery it's not, IMO, a replacement for a dedicated navigational tool ... yet, and looking at the sales statistics for these apps on the iPhone, most people seem to agree with me.
I'm not condoning the fact Bing did not have turn-by-turn out of the box, far from it, but to broadly say "No turn-by-turn" available and use that as one of three reasons for dropping the OS is just wrong.
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That's your opinion, but you have pinch to zoom and automatic text restructuring in these apps that make it trivial to read.
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Of course it's my opinion. Pinch to zoom or text reflow makes no difference to me, I still don't like reading books on a 4" display. That's what tablets are for IMO. Like I said though, I wasn't really commenting on it and agreed that his point was valid.
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Some people just like to have better control over their stuff.
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Better control? How can you have better control than a correctly configured and secured Sharepoint server hosted by yourself? Sure, you could live in the old days and manually copy files on and off your phone, forever wondering if that really was the final version or the second to last draft or whether your colleague had amended it between your last sync and the presentation, but really. Are you serious?
Using your phone as a mass storage device was never a good idea - it was a stop-gap measure because at the time it was invented/popular we didn't have S3 or properly configured corporate networks that allowed users access on-the-go.
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See, there it is. I've been surfing on my phone since I got it... never had a problem rendering any site. Unless you're going to some flash-laden bloatfest, I don't understand how you can't think that this IE is fantastic.
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I'm not saying its a bad browser, it is in fact very good, but not quite as polished as iOS's Safari browser. I like to organize my bookmarks from most used -> least used, but WP7 only organizes them alphabetically. iOS use's WebKit for its browser which is more supported than IE's rendering engine (what is it?). If you go to gmail for example you will get a hampered down dump phone mobile view (this is simply for example, other sites do this as well).
Yeah, ironically IE renders mobile sites way worse than Android or iPhone. The websites are partly to blame because of course they have had lots of time to optimize for those platforms. I don't mind the rendering of full sites... sometimes the font sizes are way off, but overall not bad and at least it's quick.
All in all the browsing experience is not as good as the other mobile platforms. I've got high hopes that IE9 fixes that.
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di.fm - streaming on wp7?

My brother has shown interest in wp7, but one thing that would keep him from getting one anytime soon would be this website. This is where he streams most of his electronic music from and his iPhone can stream it fine, but none of the browsers for wp7 can as far as I've been able to figure out.
Anybody use this site? There any way to get this working on wp7? Android & iPhone have di.fm apps, but they aren't going to be doing wp7 for a bit yet it looks like (BB one currently in public beta).
ask the makers of the app if they have any plans for windows phone.
Their site states they will be looking into it after the BB app is completed. I was wondering if there is any way to stream that site on wp7 as of now.
If not, he'll just have to wait and get a phone later, which I suggested anyway.
From their site:
Nokia, WebOS, Win7, etc.
"Will re-evaluate after Blackberry is completed."
Could take a year or more from that quote.
"Tunein Radio" my friend on the marketplace and search exactly [DI] and all the playlists come up, Get yo brother on it when he gets one or show him.
But yeah, No official app yet so i still have to use laptop for the 256k feeds atm , but hell... works perfectly out and about and sounds great off the phone
*but saying that just did a test again to see how much different they really sound, and the phone does seem to give it an ample boost in the right areas. meh, still works, but cross fingers for the real app*
mwako said:
"Tunein Radio" my friend on the marketplace and search exactly [DI] and all the playlists come up, Get yo brother on it when he gets one or show him.
But yeah, No official app yet so i still have to use laptop for the 256k feeds atm , but hell... works perfectly out and about and sounds great off the phone
*but saying that just did a test again to see how much different they really sound, and the phone does seem to give it an ample boost in the right areas. meh, still works, but cross fingers for the real app*
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Thanks, I'll check it out and let him know!
Shameless (late) plug, but there is Beem:
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/1bc66496-6941-41e6-876a-2ba818ab0ceb

Nokia Music Flat available in Germany?

Actually I was thinking to buy a HTC Radar but now I have seen that Nokia Lumia 710 (and 800) offering a Music app which seems to have an unlimited music streaming services. Is it a kind of mix-radio (like pandora, last.fm or Zune mix) or can I really search for a song or an album?
Will it be available in Germany? TOday I wrote to Nokia on Facebook and they weren`t aware of this flatrate
It's available in all countries the phone launches in. And yeah it's like Last.fm you pick an artist or whatever and it plays music from that artist and similar artists.
I'm a bit confused... this is just like having a Zune Pass and using Smart DJ isn't it?
Great for those countries not supported by zune pass...
Freypal said:
I'm a bit confused... this is just like having a Zune Pass and using Smart DJ isn't it?
Great for those countries not supported by zune pass...
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Kind of yeah. They did say it was because Zune was only supported in 6 countries and it offers an alternative, which does make sense, Nokia have always been quite big on Music.
But this is only for Nokia's devices. So for example in Germany all the others with HTC, Samsung, LG WP phones still don't get integrated services like Nokia Music or Zune Pass.
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But this is only for Nokia's devices. So for example in Germany all the others with HTC, Samsung, LG WP phones still don't get integrated services like Nokia Music or Zune Pass.
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Well tbf I think that's fair enough, nokia have to differentiate somehow.
Seems good. It will be great for countries that aren't properly supported by MS. I'm pretty happy with the UK services but free sat-nav will be nice.

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