Hey guys. I know I can always count on XDA to get my info. I just got and EVO a few days ago. I have it fully rooted using unrEVOked method. I had T-mobile before and had the MyTouch 1.2 which I learned inside and out thanks to XDA. This EVO blows that phone away. Even though I just bought this EVO, I got the 003 hardware version and not 004. First off is the only difference between the two the camera? Second what is the difference between 3.30.651.3 and 3.29.651.5? Will the 003 hardware version get the OTA update to 3.30.651.3? If I flashed a 3.30.651.3 ROM to my 3.29.651.5 phone would it cause some major problems or should I wait until the OTA comes to my phone if it does? Why would I get an outdated phone sent to me when there is an updated version available? I know these are probably n00b questions, but we all have to start somewhere. Thanks for the help in advance. I have been reading to find the answer to some of these questions, but the EVO threads are huge and am having a hard time finding the answers I am looking for.
Im running a 3.30.651.5 rom on an 003 evo with no problems but iv heard others have excessive battery drain. Id stick with an older version that is actualy for your hardware though cuz your not missing out on anything, the newest ota was for a camera fix on 004 hardware phones.
Ok thanks cynic. I don't see how the ROM would cause excessive battery drain when the only thing changed was an update for the camera. I guess I could try one of each out and see if I notice anything.
Im sure theirs more to it but thats just the major difference that i know of
I understand. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. Also are the cyanogen nightlies based on 3.29 or 3.30.
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Glad to help :-D im not sure about cyanogen though. It may not be either if it was built from the ground up. Shouldnt give you problems though, newest is cm6.1
Yeah I thought about cyanogen being an AOSP after I asked the question and figured since it wasn't posted in any thing that should be compatible with both. Thanks again for your time.
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I understand. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. Also are the cyanogen nightlies based on 3.29 or 3.30.
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cyanogen is based on android source. currently it is android 2.2.1 build FRG83. sprint/htc still currently use 2.2 FRF91 or something.
So it is safe to use CM on any hardware version as long as the kernel works? Also, does anyone want to give me their experience with certain ROM? I am not asking which is best for me, but just want to get an overall on which ones are working best or are the communities favorite for the EVO. I am rooted but still running stock rom. I want to use a custom rom but am still reading & trying to get familiar with this phone & its development.
Oh yeah. One more question. I received an update while rooted. It was a PRL update. Is this normal? I know that probably sounds very n00bish, but I just thought rooted I wouldn't get any OTA's. Will I still get OTA's from Sprint while running stock rom rooted?
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housry23 said:
So it is safe to use CM on any hardware version as long as the kernel works?
Seems to be true.
Also, does anyone want to give me their experience with certain ROM?
I run virus roms, he has a sense version and one without sense. Myns warm 2.2 is quite popular as is fresh rom.
Oh yeah. One more question. I received an update while rooted. It was a PRL update. Is this normal?
Yes you will still get notifications to update, hardware updates are not recomended for rooted users as they may break root, but prl updates are fine
Everyone was a noob once, just glad to pass along the info.
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I have a perm rooted g2 using cyanogen 6.1 r3... When the OTA update comes out will it affect my rooting in any way or add and extra security features..i know I'm not the only one wondering so does anyone have any input?
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I have a perm rooted g2 using cyanogen 6.1 r3... When the OTA update comes out will it affect my rooting in any way or add and extra security features..i know I'm not the only one wondering so does anyone have any input?
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Why don't you do a google search? There's a lot of information out there... even the 250 page Gingerbread user manual has been released.
It's basically just an improved UI with some extra **** added in.
it will make you more awesome and sexier to the ladies eyes, consequently, you will get laid like crazy bro....
I've never received an OTA while running a custom ROM. If you're running rooted stock, I'd keep my eyes peeled for news here before installing it, just in case it will do something to root.
Otherwise, I like to be surprised so I know very little about it other than near field communications will be built into Gingerbread.
Also, Gingerbread will go back in time and kill Hitler.
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why don't you do a google search? There's a lot of information out there... Even the 250 page gingerbread user manual has been released.
It's basically just an improved ui with some extra **** added in.
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Tman0604 said:
I have a perm rooted g2 using cyanogen 6.1 r3... When the OTA update comes out will it affect my rooting in any way or add and extra security features..i know I'm not the only one wondering so does anyone have any input?
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You won't get an OTA if you're running a custom ROM. But Cyanogen is bound to come out with a 2.3 version way before any official OTAs. I can't imagine it'll affect rooting etc because everyone running Cyanogen will want their phones to stay rooted.
Stevie have you misunderstood Sleef?
Official OTA updates could maybe affect ease of rooting,... when 2.1 landed for the Hero those who jumped in head first and applied the OTA got stuck for about 2 months until a new method was found.
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Stevie have you misunderstood Sleef?
Official OTA updates could maybe affect ease of rooting,... when 2.1 landed for the Hero those who jumped in head first and applied the OTA got stuck for about 2 months until a new method was found.
EDIT.... STEVIE.... Apologies, you were quoting/responding to the OP, not Sleef.
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EDIT.... STEVIE.... Apologies, you were quoting/responding to the OP, not Sleef.
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Yeah, I was, no problem. But thanks for adding the additional info, which I should have done really - which is as you say that if course you're on a *stock* ROM and are rooted/S-OFF you should not accept/apply an OTA until it's been verified it won't lock you out of root/S-OFF !
any 2.3 ota will most certainly change the way we have to root, and it might be a while until someone works out how to do it again.
Custom 2.3 roms will be out pretty quick, even if its just a rooted stock so you have no real need to accept any ota that is offered once rooted.
It'll help you get a gf because somehow she'll realize that despite you not owning an iphone, you have gingerbread!
hehe
I probably could have been a little less vague.
Also, I'm positive that someone who knows what they're doing will take the OTA and make a flashable ROM out of it so eager folks can take it for a spin without actually applying the OTA themselves. 2.3 CyanogenMod shouldn't be too far behind.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but should the source code be made available, a dev could make a working ROM even before the G2 specific OTA, right?
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Sorry this is a little off topic but I was on my cousins rooted droid x. I went on rom manager and there were much more providers for roms.
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Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but should the source code be made available, a dev could make a working ROM even before the G2 specific OTA, right?
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AFAIK,... The 2.3 source from Google is out,... but the 2.3 kernel from HTC is still needed before anything stable can be built (instead of trying generic builds not specifically for our device so all hardware/features will not work). HTC usually release their source after releasing the update.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong....
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AFAIK,... The 2.3 source from Google is out,... but the 2.3 kernel from HTC is still needed before anything stable can be built (instead of trying generic builds not specifically for our device so all hardware/features will not work). HTC usually release their source after releasing the update.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong....
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I don't think the source code is out yet, just the SDK. Shouldn't need a 2.3 kernel from HTC to make a stable build, I'm sure Cyanogen is up to the job.
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I don't think the source code is out yet, just the SDK. Shouldn't need a 2.3 kernel from HTC to make a stable build, I'm sure Cyanogen is up to the job.
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Aha,... ok.
I assumed there would be a problem going from 2.6.32 (froyo kernel) to 2.6.35 (gingerbread) as that is where there were holdups on the Hero. Fingers crossed then.
.... a teeny bit OT... Has anyone heard of Bumptop? Or is it just me that didn't know what it was? Google took over earlier this year, and it does resemble the 3d gallery + the Android 3.0 tablet video. Just installed to my laptop,... Very nice, even without a touchscreen. Maybe that is what we have to look forward to next year?
Now that I know I can get ladies with gingerbread this will help me a lot -_-
But those of you that actually put real info thanks lol...I just getting more into android development and just want to make sure nothings gonna get messed up if I do get the ota update..cyanogen I'm sure is gonna have it ready shortly, seeings how they broke froyo pretty quick. In all entirty I was just making sure if wouldn't add s back ok somehow and increase security features.
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Ok dumb question but how would you go about upgrading to gingerbread on a rooted phone?! I can't seem to find the answer anywhere & I'm scared when the time comes I won't know how.
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Ok dumb question but how would you go about upgrading to gingerbread on a rooted phone?! I can't seem to find the answer anywhere & I'm scared when the time comes I won't know how.
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I assume you haven't rooted?
You'd have to flash (install) a ROM that's based off of Gingerbread. Right now, there are only two or three of those
I have rooted & flashed myns warm. that's what I'm worried about..or my question I guess. How would I get gingerbread on my rooted phone.
>.<
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Like would I update through Sprint or is it something I have to do manually?
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Manually or wait until they push it out officially.
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At the moment you would have to do it manually. As far a I am aware the few roms that are available are not yet completely stable, and not all the features are working. Cyanogen is working on CM7/gingerbread, but has not released a build. Sounds like they're getting close though, as he tweeted he's using it as his daily driver.
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there are 3 Gingerbread ROMs in the Android Development forum thus far. They're all in Alpha or early Beta forms currently, and for most people are not stable or feature-full enough to be daily users.
If you're new to rooting I'd shy away from flashing experimental Alpha builds unless you're ready for some troubleshooting. It might be in your best interest to wait until they are more general public ready.
If you are interested, here are the links to the 3 I'm aware of:
Comes tweaked so far. Not really stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878020
Pretty much stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877653
Pretty much stock as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881557
I've personally used the 2nd and 3rd. Both worked for me but not without some issues for sure.
Oh and no matter what, get very familiar with recovery and NAND BACKUPS (nandroid). Especially when trying these alpha roms, get used to backing up your working roms and restoring them.
Everyone is so helpful but I'm not trying to do anything with my phone until it's officialy released. I just don't know how being rooted effects updating. I don't know if I'm wording this correctly...lol sorry
what my friend is trying to tell you sinse you are rooted you have to wait untill a rom w/ gingerbread on it which he provided some for you. and if you apply it manually you may be un-rooted then until unrevoke or others can break it .
Hi all
anyone know of a fully woking gingerbread rom at this point?
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anyone know of a fully woking gingerbread rom at this point?
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CM7 is the closest. Was using as a daily driver until yesterday to run Z3. Everything but 4g, which no GB rom has.
Check out the cyanogen forums for the latest nightly builds, and the CM7 thread in the general section for any Q's or info.
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I have 2.2 froyo anybody have a clue as to when gingerbread will come to the evo. I mean 2.2 works fine for me I just like to keep things current. That's why i went with Sprint "the now network". Lol but seriously, when @[email protected]
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if you want sense, just wait. its around the corner im sure.
cm7 is gb if youre down to switch to AOSP. its fast as hell
LOL....."the now network" more like the late network. I asked the question to a representative he said some time this year. That's the best answer I could get out of him.
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The official release date is Q2 of this year (Q2 is quarter two and ranges from april to july.
Couldn't find the link for it, but I know I read it on either Phandroid or Engadget.
Just so everyone knows I've never rooted my phone so I don't know all the jibberish means. Just saying.
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Just so everyone knows I've never rooted my phone so I don't know all the jibberish means. Just saying.
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This is stuff you can do without a rooted phone. In fact, it's the de facto way of doing it period, rooted or not. Lol, we're talking about Sprint and HTC's over the air (OTA) update to give us Gingerbread without having to root.
Forgive my dumb question, I've just been on XDA reading posts and learning how to customize my phone for a few weeks now. I'm totally new to the idea of rooting my phone and am still trying to figure out how it all works. What is the difference between the 2.3 Gingerbread version from the previous version on the HTC EVO? Also, where is this "thank you" button?? I haven't seen it yet. It's not to the bottom right of anyones posts that I've read yet. Thanks!
Ok! Nevr mind on the Thank you button. I refreshed and they appeared....... ~)
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Forgive my dumb question, I've just been on XDA reading posts and learning how to customize my phone for a few weeks now. I'm totally new to the idea of rooting my phone and am still trying to figure out how it all works. What is the difference between the 2.3 Gingerbread version from the previous version on the HTC EVO? Also, where is this "thank you" button?? I haven't seen it yet. It's not to the bottom right of anyones posts that I've read yet. Thanks!
Ok! Nevr mind on the Thank you button. I refreshed and they appeared....... ~)
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The difference from the stock EVO froyo and stock EVO gingerbread isn't much. It was a half ass update if you ask me. The only good thing was the developers getting more tools to make more stable roms for us root users. If you do decide to root, I would suggest mikg 1.03. Great Rom and it has sense 2.1 and the cool parts of sense 3.0
EDIT: you also lose the ability to access n signal wifi with the ota gingerbread update, but if you are rooted than you can just flash the modified kernel the awesome devs cooked up.
And the thank you button will show up when you hit 10 posts...
I caught wind that VZW is going to put out 2.3 OTA update soon, so here's my question.
If I'm rooted, but still on the stock Rom, which I have to put it back to, everything stock except for "root" and radio version, will the OTA update unroot my phone, or in any way mess anything up?
I will unroot it myself and put EVERYTHING back completely stock if I have to, but I'm not ready to give up the ability to WiFi tether my phone with my xbox to run xbox live.
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Most likely the update will break root. Most do. But generally given a few days to a couple of weeks there is a new root method
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I caught wind that VZW is going to put out 2.3 OTA update soon, so here's my question.
If I'm rooted, but still on the stock Rom, which I have to put it back to, everything stock except for "root" and radio version, will the OTA update unroot my phone, or in any way mess anything up?
I will unroot it myself and put EVERYTHING back completely stock if I have to, but I'm not ready to give up the ability to WiFi tether my phone with my xbox to run xbox live.
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Odds are someone will take the new OTA, add root, busybox, rom manager and other essentials. Make it flashable via Rom Manager the night it's released.
God forbid. A "I heard" thread. Where am I, androidforums?
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There already are Android 2.3 based roms, but this is gonna be the official 2.3 release with Verizon.
Unless I totally missed what you were trying to say
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Geez dude gimme a break, just tryin to get some useful info here.
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I'm just playin around bro.
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It wasn't long at all after the 23NOV update started being pushed OTA that us rooted dummies had a very simple to follow set of instructions:
http://solo.dc3.com/dinc/
Will be the same when/if 2.3 hits.
I don't think there are any legit sense roms built 2.3 yet. So we are forced to wait
Does anybody else think that the 2.3 ota is gonna come with Sense 2.0?
Can't wait for 2.3! However, most surely we will have to reset all settings before can update.
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Does anybody else think that the 2.3 ota is gonna come with Sense 2.0?
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I would enjoy sense 2.0 . Heres hoping!
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i really hope so. that would be incredible.
I for one like the sense clock, but I don't like the launcher, hope they add more buttons to push, like putting all the most used stuff together, like contacts.phone.messaging.browser....all on the same line. Maybe not in that order though.
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If you guys wanna try a great Sense 2.0 ROM I would suggest Warm Z TwoPointTwo. Been using the nightly 3/31 and its a fantastic ROM with great stability. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901822
I think I'm done with custom roms, not a single one I've tried has been stable so far, even though they say they're stable. I think it might actually be something with my phone that's causing instability with roms.
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I think I'm done with custom roms, not a single one I've tried has been stable so far, even though they say they're stable. I think it might actually be something with my phone that's causing instability with roms.
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Sometimes u have to try different rom/kernel combos to figure out whats best for u. I have great luck with nils business z and re eng z, both using ziggys latest bfs w/o havs kernel. Im even overclocked and there both more stable than stock with fantastic battery. I wouldnt give up, your combo is out there.
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Wouldn't there be some word from HTC if so? They did confirm the GB update in Q2 but didn't say anything about sense 2.0 in the emails I saw..
What does "bfs" and "havs" mean?
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What does "bfs" and "havs" mean?
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I have no idea, but i tried them all an that one works sense roms best for me.
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A friend of mine has an EVO, I do not nor have I ever used an evo before. He wanted a custom ROM installed and asked me for help. I would greatly appreciate any help offered by the community.
1. What ROM is closest to stock(If gingerbread is out for it then a gingerbread build would be nice), just tweaked/debloated/deodexed/zip aligned etc.
2. How well is CM7 running on the EVO? I have a captivate and CM7 right now is pretty unstable this is going to be his main ROM and he isnt too technical.
3. What rom has a good/easy update flow. Maybe something with rom manager where he can just click update and all is well in the world.
Thank you SO much in advance.
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A friend of mine has an EVO, I do not nor have I ever used an evo before. He wanted a custom ROM installed and asked me for help. I would greatly appreciate any help offered by the community.
1. What ROM is closest to stock(If gingerbread is out for it then a gingerbread build would be nice), just tweaked/debloated/deodexed/zip aligned etc.
2. How well is CM7 running on the EVO? I have a captivate and CM7 right now is pretty unstable this is going to be his main ROM and he isnt too technical.
3. What rom has a good/easy update flow. Maybe something with rom manager where he can just click update and all is well in the world.
Thank you SO much in advance.
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There are plenty of stock roms and there is a couple gingerbread floating around somewhere i believe as well so your winning on that.
Cm7 i believe is very stable rom and many people enjoy it. Not me but people really enjoy cyanogens work.
Food for the thought process:
Root..in case you haven't done it already and still can:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
In my opinion..best option for stock Rom to flash when rooted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120840
As far as the one click auto update option...you know what your getting yourself into right (as far as setting it up for your friend and then walking away)...lol.
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Food for the thought process:
Root..in case you haven't done it already and still can:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
In my opinion..best option for stock Rom to flash when rooted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120840
As far as the one click auto update option...you know what your getting yourself into right (as far as setting it up for your friend and then walking away)...lol.
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Lol yeah I'm sure he will end up calling me about it. Thanks for the links I'll check them out. If the ROM I put on there us stable enough then he won't have to update.
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There are plenty of stock roms and there is a couple gingerbread floating around somewhere i believe as well so your winning on that.
Cm7 i believe is very stable rom and many people enjoy it. Not me but people really enjoy cyanogens work.
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Thanks for the input. I was considering cm7 only because with rom manager its easy to update. I have to see if he wants sense.
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Lol yeah I'm sure he will end up calling me about it. Thanks for the links I'll check them out. If the ROM I put on there us stable enough then he won't have to update.
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Flashing a Custom (even stock) Rom and then not wanting to update to the latest and greatest...ya....ok....NOT. Your friend will get a taste of what this is like and BOOM...hooked. The Rom I linked has a great OP in support. Enjoy the fun that you already know is gonna take hold of the phone your about to set free!
EDIT: Thought I'm sure this goes without saying, but will do anyway. Remind them......DO NOT...accept OTA updates even if they can...just sayin..lmao
CM7 or Death! I played with a lot of Sense roms for quite a while, but I determined they are nothing but bloat. CM7 is superfast, and I couldn't ask for much more in stability.
I'm Running Nightly 93 and May gapps.
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Flashing a Custom (even stock) Rom and then not wanting to update to the latest and greatest...ya....ok....NOT. Your friend will get a taste of what this is like and BOOM...hooked. The Rom I linked has a great OP in support. Enjoy the fun that you already know is gonna take hold of the phone your about to set free!
EDIT: Thought I'm sure this goes without saying, but will do anyway. Remind them......DO NOT...accept OTA updates even if they can...just sayin..lmao
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Assuming he is willing to update himself I would if course tell him to do so.
Custom rom plus official ota equals me laughing at him lol. Funny and not funny at the same time lol.
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CM7 or Death! I played with a lot of Sense roms for quite a while, but I determined they are nothing but bloat. CM7 is superfast, and I couldn't ask for much more in stability.
I'm Running Nightly 93 and May gapps.
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I'm glad to hear its stable. If he is willing to give up sense and cm is stable then I might encourage him that way.
How is the battery life and do you have access to 4g speeds?
Also I have seen the new sense on the sensation... Man if its bloat its the sexiest bloat I have ever seen.
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