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What will gingerbread do?

I have a perm rooted g2 using cyanogen 6.1 r3... When the OTA update comes out will it affect my rooting in any way or add and extra security features..i know I'm not the only one wondering so does anyone have any input?
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Tman0604 said:
I have a perm rooted g2 using cyanogen 6.1 r3... When the OTA update comes out will it affect my rooting in any way or add and extra security features..i know I'm not the only one wondering so does anyone have any input?
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Why don't you do a google search? There's a lot of information out there... even the 250 page Gingerbread user manual has been released.
It's basically just an improved UI with some extra **** added in.

it will make you more awesome and sexier to the ladies eyes, consequently, you will get laid like crazy bro....

I've never received an OTA while running a custom ROM. If you're running rooted stock, I'd keep my eyes peeled for news here before installing it, just in case it will do something to root.
Otherwise, I like to be surprised so I know very little about it other than near field communications will be built into Gingerbread.
Also, Gingerbread will go back in time and kill Hitler.

infamousjax said:
why don't you do a google search? There's a lot of information out there... Even the 250 page gingerbread user manual has been released.
It's basically just an improved ui with some extra **** added in.
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Tman0604 said:
I have a perm rooted g2 using cyanogen 6.1 r3... When the OTA update comes out will it affect my rooting in any way or add and extra security features..i know I'm not the only one wondering so does anyone have any input?
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You won't get an OTA if you're running a custom ROM. But Cyanogen is bound to come out with a 2.3 version way before any official OTAs. I can't imagine it'll affect rooting etc because everyone running Cyanogen will want their phones to stay rooted.

Stevie have you misunderstood Sleef?
Official OTA updates could maybe affect ease of rooting,... when 2.1 landed for the Hero those who jumped in head first and applied the OTA got stuck for about 2 months until a new method was found.
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ddotpatel said:
Stevie have you misunderstood Sleef?
Official OTA updates could maybe affect ease of rooting,... when 2.1 landed for the Hero those who jumped in head first and applied the OTA got stuck for about 2 months until a new method was found.
EDIT.... STEVIE.... Apologies, you were quoting/responding to the OP, not Sleef.
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EDIT.... STEVIE.... Apologies, you were quoting/responding to the OP, not Sleef.
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Yeah, I was, no problem. But thanks for adding the additional info, which I should have done really - which is as you say that if course you're on a *stock* ROM and are rooted/S-OFF you should not accept/apply an OTA until it's been verified it won't lock you out of root/S-OFF !

any 2.3 ota will most certainly change the way we have to root, and it might be a while until someone works out how to do it again.
Custom 2.3 roms will be out pretty quick, even if its just a rooted stock so you have no real need to accept any ota that is offered once rooted.

It'll help you get a gf because somehow she'll realize that despite you not owning an iphone, you have gingerbread!
hehe

I probably could have been a little less vague.
Also, I'm positive that someone who knows what they're doing will take the OTA and make a flashable ROM out of it so eager folks can take it for a spin without actually applying the OTA themselves. 2.3 CyanogenMod shouldn't be too far behind.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but should the source code be made available, a dev could make a working ROM even before the G2 specific OTA, right?
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Sorry this is a little off topic but I was on my cousins rooted droid x. I went on rom manager and there were much more providers for roms.
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Sleef said:
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but should the source code be made available, a dev could make a working ROM even before the G2 specific OTA, right?
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AFAIK,... The 2.3 source from Google is out,... but the 2.3 kernel from HTC is still needed before anything stable can be built (instead of trying generic builds not specifically for our device so all hardware/features will not work). HTC usually release their source after releasing the update.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong....

ddotpatel said:
AFAIK,... The 2.3 source from Google is out,... but the 2.3 kernel from HTC is still needed before anything stable can be built (instead of trying generic builds not specifically for our device so all hardware/features will not work). HTC usually release their source after releasing the update.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong....
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I don't think the source code is out yet, just the SDK. Shouldn't need a 2.3 kernel from HTC to make a stable build, I'm sure Cyanogen is up to the job.

steviewevie said:
I don't think the source code is out yet, just the SDK. Shouldn't need a 2.3 kernel from HTC to make a stable build, I'm sure Cyanogen is up to the job.
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Aha,... ok.
I assumed there would be a problem going from 2.6.32 (froyo kernel) to 2.6.35 (gingerbread) as that is where there were holdups on the Hero. Fingers crossed then.
.... a teeny bit OT... Has anyone heard of Bumptop? Or is it just me that didn't know what it was? Google took over earlier this year, and it does resemble the 3d gallery + the Android 3.0 tablet video. Just installed to my laptop,... Very nice, even without a touchscreen. Maybe that is what we have to look forward to next year?

Now that I know I can get ladies with gingerbread this will help me a lot -_-
But those of you that actually put real info thanks lol...I just getting more into android development and just want to make sure nothings gonna get messed up if I do get the ota update..cyanogen I'm sure is gonna have it ready shortly, seeings how they broke froyo pretty quick. In all entirty I was just making sure if wouldn't add s back ok somehow and increase security features.
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Gingerbread on rooted phone

Ok dumb question but how would you go about upgrading to gingerbread on a rooted phone?! I can't seem to find the answer anywhere & I'm scared when the time comes I won't know how.
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pinkcupcakes said:
Ok dumb question but how would you go about upgrading to gingerbread on a rooted phone?! I can't seem to find the answer anywhere & I'm scared when the time comes I won't know how.
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I assume you haven't rooted?
You'd have to flash (install) a ROM that's based off of Gingerbread. Right now, there are only two or three of those

I have rooted & flashed myns warm. that's what I'm worried about..or my question I guess. How would I get gingerbread on my rooted phone.
>.<
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Like would I update through Sprint or is it something I have to do manually?
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Manually or wait until they push it out officially.
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At the moment you would have to do it manually. As far a I am aware the few roms that are available are not yet completely stable, and not all the features are working. Cyanogen is working on CM7/gingerbread, but has not released a build. Sounds like they're getting close though, as he tweeted he's using it as his daily driver.
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there are 3 Gingerbread ROMs in the Android Development forum thus far. They're all in Alpha or early Beta forms currently, and for most people are not stable or feature-full enough to be daily users.
If you're new to rooting I'd shy away from flashing experimental Alpha builds unless you're ready for some troubleshooting. It might be in your best interest to wait until they are more general public ready.
If you are interested, here are the links to the 3 I'm aware of:
Comes tweaked so far. Not really stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878020
Pretty much stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877653
Pretty much stock as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881557
I've personally used the 2nd and 3rd. Both worked for me but not without some issues for sure.
Oh and no matter what, get very familiar with recovery and NAND BACKUPS (nandroid). Especially when trying these alpha roms, get used to backing up your working roms and restoring them.

Everyone is so helpful but I'm not trying to do anything with my phone until it's officialy released. I just don't know how being rooted effects updating. I don't know if I'm wording this correctly...lol sorry

what my friend is trying to tell you sinse you are rooted you have to wait untill a rom w/ gingerbread on it which he provided some for you. and if you apply it manually you may be un-rooted then until unrevoke or others can break it .

Hi all
anyone know of a fully woking gingerbread rom at this point?

Jualexh said:
Hi all
anyone know of a fully woking gingerbread rom at this point?
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CM7 is the closest. Was using as a daily driver until yesterday to run Z3. Everything but 4g, which no GB rom has.
Check out the cyanogen forums for the latest nightly builds, and the CM7 thread in the general section for any Q's or info.
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[Q] another OTA question

If I have wifi enabled, will I get the popup for the download? Or do I have to be on 3g?
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The ota will show even if u use 4g so dont worries. ... Ota will come one way or another no matter what u using
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My question was about wifi, not 4g.
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It will still work on WiFi, and I'm trying to say this in the most polite manner possible but please stop making threads about the OTA... this has to be at least your 4th

Im pretty sure this is my first about the ota. Maybe I made one back when we thought we'd get it in dec, but this is my first about his ota. Idk, thanks though
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It doesnt matter WiFi, 3G or 4G its going to pop up regardless but if you want to download it faster turn on one as soon as it pops up and if it wont dont let it update turn on your WiFi then goto system settings update android and do it that way

Ok. Thanks.
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063_XOBX said:
It will still work on WiFi, and I'm trying to say this in the most polite manner possible but please stop making threads about the OTA... this has to be at least your 4th
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Well this is the Q&A forum, so he's entitled to. And in the interest of sticking with OPs, he shouldn't be latching his questions on to other peoples threads. He's done nothing wrong.
EDIT: and some people DO want to get the OTA, not wait for the update.zip, just for the sake of saying "I got an OTA."
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squshy 7 said:
Well this is the Q&A forum, so he's entitled to. And in the interest of sticking with OPs, he shouldn't be latching his questions on to other peoples threads. He's done nothing wrong.
EDIT: and some people DO want to get the OTA, not wait for the update.zip, just for the sake of saying "I got an OTA."
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Lol thanks. I have no problem with anyone.
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What the hell with this OTA thing we are here for the root and thanks all the devs for that making available for us. What u gonna do with your OTA, keep it for a day and then slap some rom anyway.
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dito33 said:
What the hell with this OTA thing we are here for the root and thanks all the devs for that making available for us. What u gonna do with your OTA, keep it for a day and then slap some rom anyway.
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Dude if you didn't notice, I'm not rooted or anything. I will stay stock froyo once I get it. People should stop assuming everyone uses custom roms.
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dito33 said:
What the hell with this OTA thing we are here for the root and thanks all the devs for that making available for us. What u gonna do with your OTA, keep it for a day and then slap some rom anyway.
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Usually the first thing the DEVs do is rip out all the Sprint and Samsung bloatware. I for one would like a week or two to play with any new widgets or apps added to see what I like or don't like THEN maybe slap on a custom ROM and add the features I liked also for the bugs to be worked out.
So the big question for us rooted phones is where can we find the update.zip asap tomorrow so we can flash it with CWM?
Thanks to all that make this phone great!

[Q]Help from people who know things ;) ROM question

A friend of mine has an EVO, I do not nor have I ever used an evo before. He wanted a custom ROM installed and asked me for help. I would greatly appreciate any help offered by the community.
1. What ROM is closest to stock(If gingerbread is out for it then a gingerbread build would be nice), just tweaked/debloated/deodexed/zip aligned etc.
2. How well is CM7 running on the EVO? I have a captivate and CM7 right now is pretty unstable this is going to be his main ROM and he isnt too technical.
3. What rom has a good/easy update flow. Maybe something with rom manager where he can just click update and all is well in the world.
Thank you SO much in advance.

Emil9727 said:
A friend of mine has an EVO, I do not nor have I ever used an evo before. He wanted a custom ROM installed and asked me for help. I would greatly appreciate any help offered by the community.
1. What ROM is closest to stock(If gingerbread is out for it then a gingerbread build would be nice), just tweaked/debloated/deodexed/zip aligned etc.
2. How well is CM7 running on the EVO? I have a captivate and CM7 right now is pretty unstable this is going to be his main ROM and he isnt too technical.
3. What rom has a good/easy update flow. Maybe something with rom manager where he can just click update and all is well in the world.
Thank you SO much in advance.
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There are plenty of stock roms and there is a couple gingerbread floating around somewhere i believe as well so your winning on that.
Cm7 i believe is very stable rom and many people enjoy it. Not me but people really enjoy cyanogens work.

Food for the thought process:
Root..in case you haven't done it already and still can:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
In my opinion..best option for stock Rom to flash when rooted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120840
As far as the one click auto update option...you know what your getting yourself into right (as far as setting it up for your friend and then walking away)...lol.

dpilcher said:
Food for the thought process:
Root..in case you haven't done it already and still can:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
In my opinion..best option for stock Rom to flash when rooted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120840
As far as the one click auto update option...you know what your getting yourself into right (as far as setting it up for your friend and then walking away)...lol.
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Lol yeah I'm sure he will end up calling me about it. Thanks for the links I'll check them out. If the ROM I put on there us stable enough then he won't have to update.
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Joey_UFC said:
There are plenty of stock roms and there is a couple gingerbread floating around somewhere i believe as well so your winning on that.
Cm7 i believe is very stable rom and many people enjoy it. Not me but people really enjoy cyanogens work.
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Thanks for the input. I was considering cm7 only because with rom manager its easy to update. I have to see if he wants sense.
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Emil9727 said:
Lol yeah I'm sure he will end up calling me about it. Thanks for the links I'll check them out. If the ROM I put on there us stable enough then he won't have to update.
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Flashing a Custom (even stock) Rom and then not wanting to update to the latest and greatest...ya....ok....NOT. Your friend will get a taste of what this is like and BOOM...hooked. The Rom I linked has a great OP in support. Enjoy the fun that you already know is gonna take hold of the phone your about to set free!
EDIT: Thought I'm sure this goes without saying, but will do anyway. Remind them......DO NOT...accept OTA updates even if they can...just sayin..lmao

CM7 or Death! I played with a lot of Sense roms for quite a while, but I determined they are nothing but bloat. CM7 is superfast, and I couldn't ask for much more in stability.
I'm Running Nightly 93 and May gapps.

dpilcher said:
Flashing a Custom (even stock) Rom and then not wanting to update to the latest and greatest...ya....ok....NOT. Your friend will get a taste of what this is like and BOOM...hooked. The Rom I linked has a great OP in support. Enjoy the fun that you already know is gonna take hold of the phone your about to set free!
EDIT: Thought I'm sure this goes without saying, but will do anyway. Remind them......DO NOT...accept OTA updates even if they can...just sayin..lmao
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Assuming he is willing to update himself I would if course tell him to do so.
Custom rom plus official ota equals me laughing at him lol. Funny and not funny at the same time lol.
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mintee said:
CM7 or Death! I played with a lot of Sense roms for quite a while, but I determined they are nothing but bloat. CM7 is superfast, and I couldn't ask for much more in stability.
I'm Running Nightly 93 and May gapps.
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I'm glad to hear its stable. If he is willing to give up sense and cm is stable then I might encourage him that way.
How is the battery life and do you have access to 4g speeds?
Also I have seen the new sense on the sensation... Man if its bloat its the sexiest bloat I have ever seen.
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[Q] Root my 2.3.6 or wait for ICS upgrade?

Hi all,
I'm still on the fence about rooting my t989 and so I'm looking for advice. I got the 2.3.6 update and I really want ICS but I'm willing to wait for it though. Also, I'm pretty conservative when it comes to risks such as rooting due to warranties, bricking, and losing functionality. However, I'll be traveling for a while and tethering could be handy and titanium backup has always been attractive to me. But what happens if ICS comes out? I think I loose root if I update OTA, but I should be able to get root again. I'm not a big fan of real 3rd party software because I don't want to work with bugs so if I got a new ROM, it may only be CM9 or similar as reliability is important to me. And then I don't want a new ROM if it doesn't use the Linux Kernel since Ubuntu is developing that OS to share that Kernel. Do I even need a new ROM? I think touchwiz is fine. Pages of apps are better than scrolling through them IMO.
So any suggestions on what I should do? Thanks!

Root it unless you plan on running stock ics. Chances are the ota will be releases here before it hits your phone we have a couple really nice ics roms right now. Don't know what your waiting for lol
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If you want to root, root. More than likely you will be able to download the stock ICS rom from here before you get it on your phone. As soon as one person gets it, our awesome devs will be on it like flys on ****, and we will see a stock rooted rom almost immediately.
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Root
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Towle said:
If you want to root, root. More than likely you will be able to download the stock ICS rom from here before you get it on your phone. As soon as one person gets it, our awesome devs will be on it like flys on ****, and we will see a stock rooted rom almost immediately.
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+1

I was rooted however I dropped my phone last week and had to get a replacement now I am just gonna wait for ICS to drop...
It's all good with me, at least I have my wifi calling and no delay or echo while taking my minibath.

Rooted mine several weeks ago. Tired of waiting for official ICS from T-Mobile and Samsung. Once the official version is released, the devs will have a rooted version available for flashing so you won't have to un-root.
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Just root, you won't be disappointed. Plus you can always go back if you want.
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This isn't iOS. Don't think about and root it
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Just root it you will be happier plus its just as easy to unroot as it is to root
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Was on 2.3.6 rooted for months waiting on ICS update. We finally got a rom yesterday that doesn't have any call echo problems, or really any problems. Flashed darkside's newest 4.0.4 rom this morning and have had smooth sailing all day.
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iLeopard said:
This isn't iOS. Don't think about and root it
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+1. Its easy to unroot and return to stock if need be. Till then we have fully functional daily driver ics roms already so what are you waiting for? Take control of your device. That's why you went with android over iOS and wp7 in the first place anyway isnt it?
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Thanks for your suggestions. I'll go ahead and root. I really want titanium backup. Is this the best thread for a HOW TO root?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514434

bripod said:
Thanks for your suggestions. I'll go ahead and root. I really want titanium backup. Is this the best thread for a HOW TO root?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514434
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This is the thread i followed to root. Very simple instructions. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311194 but yeah same method one has pics one dont.
Edit: Unrooting the phone is the same process as rooting except you flash a different file to the phone.

My suggestion is to root. But don't sweat CM9 it is pretty buggy right now because its still beta and isn't officially supported on our phones. But there are plenty of stable ICS roms now and even if u don't care for the few bugs that some may have, there are also some amazing GB rooms out there too.
Just my 2 cents.
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But I don't NEED a new ROM do I? Doesn't it just change the GUI? Basically I just want tethering and freeze bloat apps and ads, but a battery life boost would be great. How much does it change under the hood to expand capability? From what I can tell, root apps are the only thing that expands features.

Root and install a rom... If you think your phone is good, with a rom you'll see your phone is just great

Sorry for all my questions but is the kernel held within the ROM? And whatever ROM I choose, I can just flash to different just like that huh? Like it's an easy process?
My brother has Juggernaut, it didn't look any different than touchwiz except for flashy little things like the screen turn off and stuff. I just need function, not flash.

Some roms com with their own kernels, like TDJ's ones... You can flash a rom and then change it for another, but you have to wipe your data for a clean install (there's always the option to backup your info)

Questions go in the Q&A section