I have a perm rooted g2 using cyanogen 6.1 r3... When the OTA update comes out will it affect my rooting in any way or add and extra security features..i know I'm not the only one wondering so does anyone have any input?
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Tman0604 said:
I have a perm rooted g2 using cyanogen 6.1 r3... When the OTA update comes out will it affect my rooting in any way or add and extra security features..i know I'm not the only one wondering so does anyone have any input?
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Why don't you do a google search? There's a lot of information out there... even the 250 page Gingerbread user manual has been released.
It's basically just an improved UI with some extra **** added in.
it will make you more awesome and sexier to the ladies eyes, consequently, you will get laid like crazy bro....
I've never received an OTA while running a custom ROM. If you're running rooted stock, I'd keep my eyes peeled for news here before installing it, just in case it will do something to root.
Otherwise, I like to be surprised so I know very little about it other than near field communications will be built into Gingerbread.
Also, Gingerbread will go back in time and kill Hitler.
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why don't you do a google search? There's a lot of information out there... Even the 250 page gingerbread user manual has been released.
It's basically just an improved ui with some extra **** added in.
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Tman0604 said:
I have a perm rooted g2 using cyanogen 6.1 r3... When the OTA update comes out will it affect my rooting in any way or add and extra security features..i know I'm not the only one wondering so does anyone have any input?
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You won't get an OTA if you're running a custom ROM. But Cyanogen is bound to come out with a 2.3 version way before any official OTAs. I can't imagine it'll affect rooting etc because everyone running Cyanogen will want their phones to stay rooted.
Stevie have you misunderstood Sleef?
Official OTA updates could maybe affect ease of rooting,... when 2.1 landed for the Hero those who jumped in head first and applied the OTA got stuck for about 2 months until a new method was found.
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Stevie have you misunderstood Sleef?
Official OTA updates could maybe affect ease of rooting,... when 2.1 landed for the Hero those who jumped in head first and applied the OTA got stuck for about 2 months until a new method was found.
EDIT.... STEVIE.... Apologies, you were quoting/responding to the OP, not Sleef.
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EDIT.... STEVIE.... Apologies, you were quoting/responding to the OP, not Sleef.
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Yeah, I was, no problem. But thanks for adding the additional info, which I should have done really - which is as you say that if course you're on a *stock* ROM and are rooted/S-OFF you should not accept/apply an OTA until it's been verified it won't lock you out of root/S-OFF !
any 2.3 ota will most certainly change the way we have to root, and it might be a while until someone works out how to do it again.
Custom 2.3 roms will be out pretty quick, even if its just a rooted stock so you have no real need to accept any ota that is offered once rooted.
It'll help you get a gf because somehow she'll realize that despite you not owning an iphone, you have gingerbread!
hehe
I probably could have been a little less vague.
Also, I'm positive that someone who knows what they're doing will take the OTA and make a flashable ROM out of it so eager folks can take it for a spin without actually applying the OTA themselves. 2.3 CyanogenMod shouldn't be too far behind.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but should the source code be made available, a dev could make a working ROM even before the G2 specific OTA, right?
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Sorry this is a little off topic but I was on my cousins rooted droid x. I went on rom manager and there were much more providers for roms.
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Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but should the source code be made available, a dev could make a working ROM even before the G2 specific OTA, right?
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AFAIK,... The 2.3 source from Google is out,... but the 2.3 kernel from HTC is still needed before anything stable can be built (instead of trying generic builds not specifically for our device so all hardware/features will not work). HTC usually release their source after releasing the update.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong....
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AFAIK,... The 2.3 source from Google is out,... but the 2.3 kernel from HTC is still needed before anything stable can be built (instead of trying generic builds not specifically for our device so all hardware/features will not work). HTC usually release their source after releasing the update.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong....
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I don't think the source code is out yet, just the SDK. Shouldn't need a 2.3 kernel from HTC to make a stable build, I'm sure Cyanogen is up to the job.
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I don't think the source code is out yet, just the SDK. Shouldn't need a 2.3 kernel from HTC to make a stable build, I'm sure Cyanogen is up to the job.
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Aha,... ok.
I assumed there would be a problem going from 2.6.32 (froyo kernel) to 2.6.35 (gingerbread) as that is where there were holdups on the Hero. Fingers crossed then.
.... a teeny bit OT... Has anyone heard of Bumptop? Or is it just me that didn't know what it was? Google took over earlier this year, and it does resemble the 3d gallery + the Android 3.0 tablet video. Just installed to my laptop,... Very nice, even without a touchscreen. Maybe that is what we have to look forward to next year?
Now that I know I can get ladies with gingerbread this will help me a lot -_-
But those of you that actually put real info thanks lol...I just getting more into android development and just want to make sure nothings gonna get messed up if I do get the ota update..cyanogen I'm sure is gonna have it ready shortly, seeings how they broke froyo pretty quick. In all entirty I was just making sure if wouldn't add s back ok somehow and increase security features.
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Hey guys. I know I can always count on XDA to get my info. I just got and EVO a few days ago. I have it fully rooted using unrEVOked method. I had T-mobile before and had the MyTouch 1.2 which I learned inside and out thanks to XDA. This EVO blows that phone away. Even though I just bought this EVO, I got the 003 hardware version and not 004. First off is the only difference between the two the camera? Second what is the difference between 3.30.651.3 and 3.29.651.5? Will the 003 hardware version get the OTA update to 3.30.651.3? If I flashed a 3.30.651.3 ROM to my 3.29.651.5 phone would it cause some major problems or should I wait until the OTA comes to my phone if it does? Why would I get an outdated phone sent to me when there is an updated version available? I know these are probably n00b questions, but we all have to start somewhere. Thanks for the help in advance. I have been reading to find the answer to some of these questions, but the EVO threads are huge and am having a hard time finding the answers I am looking for.
Im running a 3.30.651.5 rom on an 003 evo with no problems but iv heard others have excessive battery drain. Id stick with an older version that is actualy for your hardware though cuz your not missing out on anything, the newest ota was for a camera fix on 004 hardware phones.
Ok thanks cynic. I don't see how the ROM would cause excessive battery drain when the only thing changed was an update for the camera. I guess I could try one of each out and see if I notice anything.
Im sure theirs more to it but thats just the major difference that i know of
I understand. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. Also are the cyanogen nightlies based on 3.29 or 3.30.
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Glad to help :-D im not sure about cyanogen though. It may not be either if it was built from the ground up. Shouldnt give you problems though, newest is cm6.1
Yeah I thought about cyanogen being an AOSP after I asked the question and figured since it wasn't posted in any thing that should be compatible with both. Thanks again for your time.
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I understand. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. Also are the cyanogen nightlies based on 3.29 or 3.30.
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cyanogen is based on android source. currently it is android 2.2.1 build FRG83. sprint/htc still currently use 2.2 FRF91 or something.
So it is safe to use CM on any hardware version as long as the kernel works? Also, does anyone want to give me their experience with certain ROM? I am not asking which is best for me, but just want to get an overall on which ones are working best or are the communities favorite for the EVO. I am rooted but still running stock rom. I want to use a custom rom but am still reading & trying to get familiar with this phone & its development.
Oh yeah. One more question. I received an update while rooted. It was a PRL update. Is this normal? I know that probably sounds very n00bish, but I just thought rooted I wouldn't get any OTA's. Will I still get OTA's from Sprint while running stock rom rooted?
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So it is safe to use CM on any hardware version as long as the kernel works?
Seems to be true.
Also, does anyone want to give me their experience with certain ROM?
I run virus roms, he has a sense version and one without sense. Myns warm 2.2 is quite popular as is fresh rom.
Oh yeah. One more question. I received an update while rooted. It was a PRL update. Is this normal?
Yes you will still get notifications to update, hardware updates are not recomended for rooted users as they may break root, but prl updates are fine
Everyone was a noob once, just glad to pass along the info.
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I know it was just released yesterday but is there a 2.3 rom out there for the evo? Sorry if this was posted in the wrong section or if it's already been answered.
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no, no there isnt
There is. It doesn't work really so it's kind of useless right now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863526
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There is. It doesn't work really so it's kind of useless right now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863526
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No buttons ftw! LOL
Ok so 2.3 is called gingerbread??
Can someone tell me what is so good about 2.3 and what it has or does that 2.2 does not/does not do.
Also will the EVO ever get it..
http://www.cnet.com/8301-19736_1-20022517-251.html
As for whether or not the Evo will get it, that is not confirmed yet. Although I'm sure Sprint might push for it. They didn't even knock out the Epic 4G's Froyo completely yet (they are close I think).
If the Evo does get it, I hope that Sprint doesn't take their sweet ass time pushing it out.
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No buttons ftw! LOL
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The buttons are working in build 4. The only things I have tested that aren't really working are wifi and bluetooth and, the real killer, the phone speakers.
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The buttons are working in build 4. The only things I have tested that aren't really working are wifi and bluetooth and, the real killer, the phone speakers.
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I stand corrected lol.
Hopefully the devs will make it fully work soon
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Hopefully the devs will make it fully work soon
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Yeah, but hopefully they push it out fast. Kind of like what happened with Froyo when it first was released. Devs made it work and right when it was getting polished, they did the official release lol. -.-
But obviously we wont be installing it from sprint OTA and lose root, i would imagine we will be waiting till a dev releases a custom version...
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But obviously we wont be installing it from sprint OTA and lose root, i would imagine we will be waiting till a dev releases a custom version...
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Yeah thats true haha
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But obviously we wont be installing it from sprint OTA and lose root, i would imagine we will be waiting till a dev releases a custom version...
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Of course. But I meant that once the OTA is out its much easier for DEVs to use that as a base to punch out their ROMs. Leaked or open sourced versions are good practice to mess around with but usually pretty bugged. But working with an OTA as a base would be better. Hurry Sprint! Gingerbread go go! I wonder if the new ASOP will be better than Sense. lol
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Of course. But I meant that once the OTA is out its much easier for DEVs to use that as a base to punch out their ROMs. Leaked or open sourced versions are good practice to mess around with but usually pretty bugged. But working with an OTA as a base would be better. Hurry Sprint! Gingerbread go go! I wonder if the new ASOP will be better than Sense. lol
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Agreed, its gonna be fast once the ota is out
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But obviously we wont be installing it from sprint OTA and lose root, i would imagine we will be waiting till a dev releases a custom version...
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This is where my anxiousness comes into play.....lol
I've only seen the Gingerbread keyboard cooked into ROMs so far, can't wait for the full release
I really just posted that for anyone new to rooting that may not realize that the OTA would remove root...I can't wait to see it!!
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I really just posted that for anyone new to rooting that may not realize that the OTA would remove root...I can't wait to see it!!
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I was that guy that applied the OTA when Froyo came out. I'm not gonna do that again
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I was that guy that applied the OTA when Froyo came out. I'm not gonna do that again
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Dude I know the feeling
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Ok dumb question but how would you go about upgrading to gingerbread on a rooted phone?! I can't seem to find the answer anywhere & I'm scared when the time comes I won't know how.
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Ok dumb question but how would you go about upgrading to gingerbread on a rooted phone?! I can't seem to find the answer anywhere & I'm scared when the time comes I won't know how.
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I assume you haven't rooted?
You'd have to flash (install) a ROM that's based off of Gingerbread. Right now, there are only two or three of those
I have rooted & flashed myns warm. that's what I'm worried about..or my question I guess. How would I get gingerbread on my rooted phone.
>.<
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Like would I update through Sprint or is it something I have to do manually?
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Manually or wait until they push it out officially.
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At the moment you would have to do it manually. As far a I am aware the few roms that are available are not yet completely stable, and not all the features are working. Cyanogen is working on CM7/gingerbread, but has not released a build. Sounds like they're getting close though, as he tweeted he's using it as his daily driver.
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there are 3 Gingerbread ROMs in the Android Development forum thus far. They're all in Alpha or early Beta forms currently, and for most people are not stable or feature-full enough to be daily users.
If you're new to rooting I'd shy away from flashing experimental Alpha builds unless you're ready for some troubleshooting. It might be in your best interest to wait until they are more general public ready.
If you are interested, here are the links to the 3 I'm aware of:
Comes tweaked so far. Not really stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878020
Pretty much stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877653
Pretty much stock as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881557
I've personally used the 2nd and 3rd. Both worked for me but not without some issues for sure.
Oh and no matter what, get very familiar with recovery and NAND BACKUPS (nandroid). Especially when trying these alpha roms, get used to backing up your working roms and restoring them.
Everyone is so helpful but I'm not trying to do anything with my phone until it's officialy released. I just don't know how being rooted effects updating. I don't know if I'm wording this correctly...lol sorry
what my friend is trying to tell you sinse you are rooted you have to wait untill a rom w/ gingerbread on it which he provided some for you. and if you apply it manually you may be un-rooted then until unrevoke or others can break it .
Hi all
anyone know of a fully woking gingerbread rom at this point?
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Hi all
anyone know of a fully woking gingerbread rom at this point?
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CM7 is the closest. Was using as a daily driver until yesterday to run Z3. Everything but 4g, which no GB rom has.
Check out the cyanogen forums for the latest nightly builds, and the CM7 thread in the general section for any Q's or info.
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I caught wind that VZW is going to put out 2.3 OTA update soon, so here's my question.
If I'm rooted, but still on the stock Rom, which I have to put it back to, everything stock except for "root" and radio version, will the OTA update unroot my phone, or in any way mess anything up?
I will unroot it myself and put EVERYTHING back completely stock if I have to, but I'm not ready to give up the ability to WiFi tether my phone with my xbox to run xbox live.
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Most likely the update will break root. Most do. But generally given a few days to a couple of weeks there is a new root method
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I caught wind that VZW is going to put out 2.3 OTA update soon, so here's my question.
If I'm rooted, but still on the stock Rom, which I have to put it back to, everything stock except for "root" and radio version, will the OTA update unroot my phone, or in any way mess anything up?
I will unroot it myself and put EVERYTHING back completely stock if I have to, but I'm not ready to give up the ability to WiFi tether my phone with my xbox to run xbox live.
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Odds are someone will take the new OTA, add root, busybox, rom manager and other essentials. Make it flashable via Rom Manager the night it's released.
God forbid. A "I heard" thread. Where am I, androidforums?
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There already are Android 2.3 based roms, but this is gonna be the official 2.3 release with Verizon.
Unless I totally missed what you were trying to say
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Geez dude gimme a break, just tryin to get some useful info here.
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I'm just playin around bro.
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It wasn't long at all after the 23NOV update started being pushed OTA that us rooted dummies had a very simple to follow set of instructions:
http://solo.dc3.com/dinc/
Will be the same when/if 2.3 hits.
I don't think there are any legit sense roms built 2.3 yet. So we are forced to wait
Does anybody else think that the 2.3 ota is gonna come with Sense 2.0?
Can't wait for 2.3! However, most surely we will have to reset all settings before can update.
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Does anybody else think that the 2.3 ota is gonna come with Sense 2.0?
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I would enjoy sense 2.0 . Heres hoping!
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i really hope so. that would be incredible.
I for one like the sense clock, but I don't like the launcher, hope they add more buttons to push, like putting all the most used stuff together, like contacts.phone.messaging.browser....all on the same line. Maybe not in that order though.
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If you guys wanna try a great Sense 2.0 ROM I would suggest Warm Z TwoPointTwo. Been using the nightly 3/31 and its a fantastic ROM with great stability. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901822
I think I'm done with custom roms, not a single one I've tried has been stable so far, even though they say they're stable. I think it might actually be something with my phone that's causing instability with roms.
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6stringandy said:
I think I'm done with custom roms, not a single one I've tried has been stable so far, even though they say they're stable. I think it might actually be something with my phone that's causing instability with roms.
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Sometimes u have to try different rom/kernel combos to figure out whats best for u. I have great luck with nils business z and re eng z, both using ziggys latest bfs w/o havs kernel. Im even overclocked and there both more stable than stock with fantastic battery. I wouldnt give up, your combo is out there.
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Wouldn't there be some word from HTC if so? They did confirm the GB update in Q2 but didn't say anything about sense 2.0 in the emails I saw..
What does "bfs" and "havs" mean?
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What does "bfs" and "havs" mean?
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I have no idea, but i tried them all an that one works sense roms best for me.
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Gingerbread has been released to developers.
http://developer.htc.com/
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You can flash this only via RUU (and probably from SD card if you extract rom.zip). OTA is not available.
Were are all the people that ranted that there is no Gingerbread update now!
Lol, anyone has tested it?
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You can flash this only via RUU (and probably from SD card if you extract rom.zip). OTA is not available.
Were are all the people that ranted that there is no Gingerbread update now!
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There still technically isn't as most of the comments seemed to be for an OTA update.
So, is that it? Or can we expect more? As it stands, it's a big "take your ****ing GB and don't come running to us expecting support, suckers!"
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So, is that it? Or can we expect more? As it stands, it's a big "take your ****ing GB and don't come running to us expecting support, suckers!"
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Wait, let me guess - you won't be buying another HTC device unless you get moar?
awesome
I don't care if there is more, I'm happy with my installed ROM. I'm just in awe of htc's way of doing things, which I find inappropriate to say the least.
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i dont get what the big fuss over getting gingerbread from htc is, we already hav more gb roms than you can imagine to choose from, i can understand someone that hasnt a clue about android and there phone, they see there getting an update and think happy days, but surely all the people that are on xda should hav knowledge of rooting and stuff, so they dont need gingerbread as they already should hav it, im using xjs miui conversion and couldnt care less if htc release gingerbread, doesnt put me off buying another htc phone, ramble over lol
Any rooted realese?
I can only talk for myself, and in my case what bothers me is the whole " Gingerbread? yes! no! yes but not whole!" followed by nothing more than a developers build, released last minute. That's just f'ed.
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i try my best not to take any notice, yes its hard because its all you seem to see here, the thing is htc make brilliant phones, and while there making brillliant phones and the cleverer devs are rooting them and making amazing roms then we have nothing to worry about
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I can only talk for myself, and in my case what bothers me is the whole " Gingerbread? yes! no! yes but not whole!" followed by nothing more than a developers build, released last minute. That's just f'ed.
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Indeed. If they announce Gingerbread update via Facebook, it should be an update that the average Facebook user can actually get to their phone.
If they had announced here that a developer build was coming, that would have been ok. Then again, as a whole the amount of support for Desire wouldn't have been, only the announcement part.
timestamps on the files seem to suggest they have had this ready since 15th - 22nd july.
fairly last minute considering testing period
I don't remember them announcing it will be an OTA release. Even more, there was a rumor it might be a ruu. So they delivered the update on schedule, but you jumped to conclusions based on something they never promised, and now it is a problem too. It is not HTC's problem if majority of population who inhabitate Facebook's pages are idiots or not. Which they probably are
Bah so no on the air update? that sucks.
anyone checked to see if it is S-Off?
So that means that we normal users (unrooted) cannot install it?
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So that means that we normal users (unrooted) cannot install it?
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you can instlal it by running the RUU on your laptop with the phone connected simples
it will unroot and reset to factory defaults
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I don't remember them announcing it will be an OTA release. Even more, there was a rumor it might be a ruu. So they delivered the update on schedule, but you jumped to conclusions based on something they never promised, and now it is a problem too. It is not HTC's problem if majority of population who inhabitate Facebook's pages are idiots or not. Which they probably are
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"Hi everyone. We have more news about our build of Gingerbread for Desire. Our testing has gone well so we will begin rolling out the update by the end of July! Thank you again for your support!"
Ok.
Where is the rumor that it might be a ruu?How many times HTC released a rom by ruu, on any device???
The update on schedule was "by" not "at"...
"Testing has gone well" - that means that the update is in developer state or ready to release?What that means to you, smartass?
"It is not HTC's problem if majority of population who inhabitate Facebook's pages are idiots or not. Which they probably are " - do you have a Facebook page, moron? If you do, do you feel a little bit "idiotic"?