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I have only ever changed my romm from 2.1 to 2.2 stock. Not sure what makes a custom rom so much better. What else can you physically do? Is there one that works with ota stock radio and froyo update (downgraded to get it). I am rooted on 2.2. I would like to see whats so cool about changing. Advice?
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Try them out for yourself. Personally I like the fact that custom roms have verizon bloat removed and also seem the run more smoothly. Just remember to create a Nandroid backup of your stock rom so you can go back to it whenever you want.

jbeitel said:
I have only ever changed my romm from 2.1 to 2.2 stock. Not sure what makes a custom rom so much better. What else can you physically do? Is there one that works with ota stock radio and froyo update (downgraded to get it). I am rooted on 2.2. I would like to see whats so cool about changing. Advice?
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Download ROM Manager and Titanium Back up... make a Backup of your ROM currently and try out another ROM! no harm in trying it. If you don't like it you can always go back to EXACTLY how you left it.
Anyways... every ROM has there "thing" and they usually start off as a vanilla or a sense based ROM. A ROM can be optimized to to be much snappier and even come with their own custom kernels. Don't forget that you can get better battery life! They all work with the Stock froyo radio... except maybe the Desire ROM. I think you need the latest radio leak for that one, but you can install it and mess with it... just no signal.
These devs pretty much can add, delete, and modify practically anything and everything and it seems to be ALWAYS better over stock.
Examples...
-My app drawer has added functionality now. I can uninstall apps straight from the app drawer and I can organize my apps in FOLDERS inside the app drawer so now it's not just a huge list of icons anymore.
-When adding apps to my homescreen I can change the naming convention or have no name at all!
-ROMs come with a lil "theme" to them so us users don't have to hassle with adding the mods our self.
-battery indicators
-notification drag down bar
-rosie can be different (vanilla, sense, expresso) with right button customed
-widgets can be themed to look more aesthetically pleasing
-a mix mash of vanilla and htc apps are used (best of both worlds)
-the Inc camera can be replaced with the EVO
-added Pre-Installed Apps for us (ex. wireless tether)
.....etc.
The list can go on and on. you can do a lot of this on your own but why when a dev has done it for you? and not only were they nice enough to create a nice ROM for us but they also went through beta testers to catch most of the bugs and glitches you would find if you did it yourself!
Anyways, download and flash a couple ROMs and you will never go back!

Thanks for the awesome response. I certainly would like folders in my app drawer so i didnt use a whole screen for folders. Thanks again
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His rom sounds like uncommensense. Most roms dont actually do that. His does. Your launcher can also add alot of customization. Launcher pro allows you to elimanate names but you cant name folders where as open home allows you to.hes right check it out. Thats most of the fun.

fernando sor said:
His rom sounds like uncommensense. Most roms dont actually do that. His does. Your launcher can also add alot of customization. Launcher pro allows you to elimanate names but you cant name folders where as open home allows you to.hes right check it out. Thats most of the fun.
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correct... those were just examples. every rom has their "advantage" over others. the custom app drawer is definitely ROM specific.

Porting phone.apk from stock to cyanogen

So right now I'm in dsixda's rom kitchen, trying to pull a few stock apps(phone, dialer, contacts, messaging) from a rooted stock rom(cr 2.13 OTA) to the nightly CM7. It's giving me process.com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly at boot and won't let me past. So I know that the OTA rom is froyo and CM is gingerbread, I'm assuming thats my problem. so that being said, first am I right? What do I need to do to make this work? and where can I get a stock gingerbread rom? can I simply drag and drop phone.apk, dialer.apk, etc. or is there more to it?

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So right now I'm in dsixda's rom kitchen, trying to pull a few stock apps(phone, dialer, contacts, messaging) from a rooted stock rom(cr 2.13 OTA) to the nightly CM7. It's giving me process.com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly at boot and won't let me past. So I know that the OTA rom is froyo and CM is gingerbread, I'm assuming thats my problem. so that being said, first am I right? What do I need to do to make this work? and where can I get a stock gingerbread rom? can I simply drag and drop phone.apk, dialer.apk, etc. or is there more to it?
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I don't think that will work. Espresso roms are sense, cm roms are not, they have different frameworks and such. First off, I'm PRETTY sure phone.apk is just the backend to sms/dialer/radio/etc., so you can leave that alone. Why do you want to move those apps over to cm7? Theming? Messaging and contacts I KNOW won't work because they require the tmobile framework resources that cm roms don't have, same with the dialer. You won't be able to move messaging either, since it has different coding from froyo to gingerbread. Contacts and dialer you MIGHT be able to move over if you ALSO move over the com.htc.resources.apk from /system/framework to the same location on the cm rom. You also might have to move the com.tmobile.framework.apk or something like that from /system/app to the same location on cm7 as well.
That may or may not work, it'll more likely just cause force closes everywhere since htc apps are very dependent on other apps and proprietary framework resources that stock android doesn't have.

I don't understand why you would want any of that. To each his own, but I think cyanogen has made all of that stuff better and simpler. The only thing he needs to add is the ability to end the call from the notification bar. I thought sense had a good idea there
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I'm not knocking CM I do like it, it's just still buggy. For example in his contacts when entering a new a number with the keyboard the numbers are haywire and dont work, so you have to use the touchscreen. The main thing with the dialer is I miss the T9 speeddial, and messaging is a bit buggy as well, plus I like the old mms.apk ui better. For now I found out about dialer 1 on the market and will use that, but hopefully when it's all said and done things will be better on CM. Can anyone suggest a good messaging app from the market? contacts too maybe?

TheUnknown7 said:
I'm not knocking CM I do like it, it's just still buggy. For example in his contacts when entering a new a number with the keyboard the numbers are haywire and dont work, so you have to use the touchscreen. The main thing with the dialer is I miss the T9 speeddial, and messaging is a bit buggy as well, plus I like the old mms.apk ui better. For now I found out about dialer 1 on the market and will use that, but hopefully when it's all said and done things will be better on CM. Can anyone suggest a good messaging app from the market? contacts too maybe?
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I use GoSMS. It's free, and you can theme it and such.

Alright. and almost forgot, the stock music player... any way of porting that? I really like the original widget better, and I miss controlling it from the lock screen. I want the old calendar back as well. thoughts?

i missed the dial by name from the SenseUI - this app is a GREAT replacement, you swipe from side to side to get to recent/favs/dial, and it's free: https://market.android.com/details?id=kz.mek.DialerOne

TheUnknown7 said:
Alright. and almost forgot, the stock music player... any way of porting that? I really like the original widget better, and I miss controlling it from the lock screen. I want the old calendar back as well. thoughts?
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this is available in the later CM7 nightlies (30+) - you can hold the volume buttons to do prev/next, and you can even have the controls on the lock screen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_gY1fGpKBs&feature=player_embedded
This is a replacement contacts called Phonebook 2.0. It's pretty cool.
Also, pretty much any of the widgets in sense are sense only ;p

Thanks guys. Yep figured out about the music player, thats good. Already using dialer one, I like it better actually. Now I'm missing the calendar. I really miss being able to see when stuff is coming up on the old widget. Any body got anything on that?

TheUnknown7 said:
Thanks guys. Yep figured out about the music player, thats good. Already using dialer one, I like it better actually. Now I'm missing the calendar. I really miss being able to see when stuff is coming up on the old widget. Any body got anything on that?
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The stock calendar widget is an agenda style widget
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Gingerbread-Evo-Deck Widget Question

I'm currently using the 1.2m version of kushdeck's Gingerbread-Evo-Deck ROM.
My question is, where is the Calendar, News, Calculator, Weather, and Home Clock Widgets at?
Did I install something wrong, or were those removed as part of helping the battery life or cutting down unneeded apps by the developer?
And another quick question, whenever there's an update for kushdeck's ROM, do I just install the ROM as I did the first time, or is there an update path, and would I have to reset my phone to factory settings, delete cache, etc. before installing?
Another question, since my phone is rooted, how do I allow my phone to act as a hotspot? Is there a certain ROM or App I need, or is there already a built-in function I'm overlooking?
Your help is much appreciated!

Undead46 said:
I'm currently using the 1.2m version of kushdeck's Gingerbread-Evo-Deck ROM.
My question is, where is the Calendar, News, Calculator, Weather, and Home Clock Widgets at?
Did I install something wrong, or were those removed as part of helping the battery life or cutting down unneeded apps by the developer?
And another quick question, whenever there's an update for kushdeck's ROM, do I just install the ROM as I did the first time, or is there an update path, and would I have to reset my phone to factory settings, delete cache, etc. before installing?
Another question, since my phone is rooted, how do I allow my phone to act as a hotspot? Is there a certain ROM or App I need, or is there already a built-in function I'm overlooking?
Your help is much appreciated!
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Since it isn't a "sense" rom, and a aosp rom, you wont have the regular clock, Calender, etc Widgets. You will have to find alternatives from the market.
And to update to the newest version, as of now with it being 1.2x all you have to do is wipe dalvik/cache. Now if he puts out a update like 2.0 then a full wipe will be recommended. And lastly, for the hotspots feature, get wifi tether for free from the market
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Ah, much appreciated.
I wonder if "sense" ROM's would be recommended over AOSP, but I kind of like how it's empty.
Just miss those lovely widgets! :/
Thanks for the info, I'll be sure to check out market for wifi tethering.

Undead46 said:
Ah, much appreciated.
I wonder if "sense" ROM's would be recommended over AOSP, but I kind of like how it's empty.
Just miss those lovely widgets! :/
Thanks for the info, I'll be sure to check out market for wifi tethering.
There's no 3G/4G Tethering?
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Preference really of sense or aosp I stayed on sense for a while, tried cm7, now decks, and I don't think ill go back anytime soon. And if you really miss the sense clock, try beautiful Widgets in the market, you can theme and skin it to look almost exactly like the sense clock. And yes for 3/4g the wifi works with both, just flip on 4g and hit the start tethering button. I'm mobile right now but look in the general section for "wifi tether and aosp roms" if you can't get it to work and it has directions on how to get it working
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Beautiful Widgets is nice, but idk if it's really worth the $$$ since it doesn't have Calendar or Calculator too... But I may try it out, thanks!
I'm curious, there's no ROM's that provide individual Sense Widgets?
I installed the "Wireless Tether for Root Users" by Muller, Lemons, Buxton, and it says, "This application requires a 'rooted'-device and a (custom-) kernel which supports netfilter (iptables)!"
Question is, do I already have this "custom kernel" when I rooted my phone, or where can I get it from and how do I install?

Wifi tether is already built into decks roms. Settings>wireless&networks>portable hotspots>wireless tether. That should get you going.
Thanks is always good
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I use fancy widget pro and it feels and almost looks like a sense based clock with weather. It has like 5 customized sizes and presets. I generally use fancy widget home its the the full clock with the weather similar to sense.
This widget will also work with both gingerbread and sense so no need to worry if you convert back and like the widget.

[Q] Cyano-sense-mod

Hi Im A Htc Sense Rom User, I Like Sense A Lot especially the links and it lets me stays organized.The Problem Is My Internal Memory Is Small (1.1 gb)
I Tried Cyanogenmod and i liked it a lot
the only thing im missing well everything in htc sense i want the speed of cyanogenmod but i keep on returning to sense roms.
my question is: is there a way i can replace the htc sense stuff in CM?
like the camera
flip to silent
smart dialer
htc widgets
contact linkup or at least to sync my contacts facebook pictures
sense keyboard
please help me i want cyanogenmod so bad but at least replacements for the sense stuff cz the sense rom are big in size ( 250 mb) and cyanogen is small & fast.

Take a closer look at these Apps:
like the camera ---> Camera360
flip to silent ---> LLama
smart dialer --> Contapps
htc widgets --> which? / what are they doing?
contact linkup or at least to sync my contacts facebook pictures --> contapps
sense keyboard --> ThickButtons

How many apps do you have installed? Because if you're filling it up with 1.1GB of apps, you're doing well!
My recommendation is to use a Sense ROM, then use a ROM cleaner script on top to clear out the stuff you don't use, giving you more space. Because Sense is a full framework, not just a few bits and pieces running on top, you are unlikely to find any replacements for Cyanogenmod that work quite as well.

This could be a bit off topic.
Is there anyway I can get the cynogenmod phone.apk to work with Sense?
I'm coming from mid-ranged and low-end phones to the DHD and all of them use phones.apks similar to the cyanogenmod one. It's been over two weeks and I still uncomfortable with Sense phone.apk.

McKebapp said:
Take a closer look at these Apps:
like the camera ---> Camera360
flip to silent ---> LLama
smart dialer --> Contapps
htc widgets --> which? / what are they doing?
contact linkup or at least to sync my contacts facebook pictures --> contapps
sense keyboard --> ThickButtons
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Well i think launcher pro did the job as for the widgets like sense clock and sense calender
And Thanks For Your Help Bro you helped me a lot

lambomanx1 said:
How many apps do you have installed? Because if you're filling it up with 1.1GB of apps, you're doing well!
My recommendation is to use a Sense ROM, then use a ROM cleaner script on top to clear out the stuff you do't use, giving you more space. Because Sense is a full framework, not just a few bits and pieces running on top, you are unlikely to find any replacements for Cyanogenmod that work quite as well.
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Yeah I Saw This On Android Revolution And i'l give It A Try. Thanks For the idea

lambomanx1 said:
My recommendation is to use a Sense ROM, then use a ROM cleaner script on top to clear out the stuff you don't use, giving you more space. Because Sense is a full framework, not just a few bits and pieces running on top, you are unlikely to find any replacements for Cyanogenmod that work quite as well.
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this is what i recommend too, just strip out everything from the rom you dont want and then flash it
rather than starting at the ground up find replacements for everything, start with the finished article and start slimming it down

ROBINGAZI said:
This could be a bit off topic.
Is there anyway I can get the cynogenmod phone.apk to work with Sense?
I'm coming from mid-ranged and low-end phones to the DHD and all of them use phones.apks similar to the cyanogenmod one. It's been over two weeks and I still uncomfortable with Sense phone.apk.
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Well I Will Give You A Suggestion Try To backup the cyanogenmod dialer in titanium backup and restore it in any rom u want. Always backup first if it didnt work try finding something in the market. And i will try this and i will post a link or tell you if another way worked bro.

I went from an HTC hero which was my first android phone to an optimus v, my preferences for replacing most of the sense feeling is launcher pro for the Widgets and go contacts for the smart dialer/contact linkage. There is a patched HTC_ime somewhere on this forum that will install on a non-sense rom but I can't remember where or search it out right now.
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Just search HTC IME into Google, first result V27, but it isn't updated anymore. That said, I use it, and it does work very well indeed.
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[Q] Deleting stock launcher

OK, I've seen a few threads similar to this question, but no definitive answers anywhere. I'm currently running SnS Sense ROM 1.5, and I've been looking for a launcher that's a bit different than the stock one, mainly because I like the dock that's across the bottom, similar to what I had with MIUI. After trying out ADW, LauncherPro and GO Launcher EX, I've decided on GO. It just fits what I need best, and the calendar application (which is actually very important to me for work) is second to none, even standalone widgets on the market. Now, I want to uninstall the stock launcher, mainly because it takes up almost 7 MB of space on a system where I really only have about 45 MB of free space (with it installed). If I uninstall it, will I not be able to reinstall b/c it's a system app if I decide to go back to it, like what happens if you uninstall Facebook for Sense? Also, can I uninstall HTC Sense as well, or should I not uninstall either of them? I could really use the space though. Would freezing it via Titanium give me that space back?

Really if you are going to delete the launcher altogether (which I don't know much about) if you don't use much of sense, get an AOSP ROM. You would be able to afford to have an additional launcher on top of stock with plenty of room.
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imheroldman said:
Really if you are going to delete the launcher altogether (which I don't know much about) if you don't use much of sense, get an AOSP ROM. You would be able to afford to have an additional launcher on top of stock with plenty of room.
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Nah, I had MIUI for about 3 months before going back to Sense....it's not Sense I dislike, it's really just the stock launcher. I like the integration of everything that Sense has, especially Facebook for Sense. I really kinda wanna just delete the launcher. I think what I'm going to do is set up GO launcher the way I want, so I have both Sense with stock launcher and GO launcher both running the way I want, then I'll make a Nandroid of that. Once I have that, I can reboot, delete the launcher and see what happens without fear of really screwing things up. I still would like an answer to my questions though, if anyone can help out.