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13/08 1.0 - MoDaCo Hero Rosie Remover

Nice and simple this... by popular request... a Rosie remover for Hero! It simply deletes all the Rosie and widget files to return you to the 'stock' Android look. Saves you a bit of space too!
Yes, you can achieve exactly the same thing via the command prompt, this just makes it a bit easier for newbies...
This update is designed to be applied on top of a standard build, using the recovery image linked below. DO A NANDROID BACKUP FIRST!
Details and download:
http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-hero-hero-modaco-com/291477/13-08-1-0-modaco-rosie-remover/

Changelog
1.0
Initial Release

Lots of folks asking about this - I've added it to the wiki
Went to add the MoDaCo Patch but its already there Ta Paul xx

Okay. I might have just fudged up. I got too excited and did the update.zip *without* making a nandroid back-up..
Pure speculation, but if I decide I want the Rosie stuff back on how should I pull that off?

Is there an advantage between this and doing the method where you go into manage applications and clear defaults to go back to Android default?

So how much faster and slicker is the Hero with Rosie removed ?
I've heard reports that it is much faster and I'm kind of tempted......

plbe said:
Is there an advantage between this and doing the method where you go into manage applications and clear defaults to go back to Android default?
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Only clearing the default will still keep the Sense UI in memory, it has its own process if you take peek with a taskmanager (I think its called TouchFlo or something). Removing it completely obviously wont have it running anymore
furrypotato said:
So how much faster and slicker is the Hero with Rosie removed ?
I've heard reports that it is much faster and I'm kind of tempted......
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I ran the Rosie remover on my Hero and it feels a lot faster indeed. All together a more fluid experience now

Gives certificate error...

does this remove anything else other than touchflo and support files? Like the music player and any other hero apps?

megaoptimus said:
does this remove anything else other than touchflo and support files? Like the music player and any other hero apps?
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The apps are all there (calendar, people, mail, messages, music) and they still work

Lol guys please
no need to patch anything
just go into manage applications, scroll down to touch flo and clear dfaults....the next time you press the home button you get the option to use the default launcher..
It is touch flo that causes a little lagginess on the hero as it did on my g1 running the hero rom
dont flash or patch anything unless its really needed

Dayzee said:
Lots of folks asking about this - I've added it to the wiki
Went to add the MoDaCo Patch but its already there Ta Paul xx
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I kinda try to keep the wiki up to date and I think I added it

j2kquest said:
Lol guys please
no need to patch anything
just go into manage applications, scroll down to touch flo and clear dfaults....the next time you press the home button you get the option to use the default launcher..
It is touch flo that causes a little lagginess on the hero as it did on my g1 running the hero rom
dont flash or patch anything unless its really needed
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But if you check the running processes you will se that touchflo is still running and using system resources, if I'm not mistaken it will also restart even if you kill it. To prevent that you have to either remove it or just rename the apk file.

I took the plunge and tried the rosie remover today.
And let me say that my phone is a LOT smoother and faster.
pressing 'Home' button gets the home screen much faster. Apps start faster. And I dont get the slowdown that I can get with the Rosie UI. It may not be as pretty or fancy but sometimes you just want speed.
So much so in fact that I'm going to stick with it this way for now.
I can only hope that HTC do address the lagginess of the phone in their upcoming firmware update. I'm hoping that it's down to some rushed, poor coding. Rather than the fact that our phones just arent fast enough to run all the extra processes etc involved.
Anyway, I'd recommend people try it. Do a nandroid backup first so you can go back if you want.

Thanks Paul, it does feel much snappier now.
I guess another image replacing HTC's custom apps (alarm, contact list...) with Android's default ones is not possible? What about one using the default Android theme (the orange one)?

Maybe be a silly question - but what are the reasons / benifits to removing Rosie ( Rosie is the Sense UI right? )?

J-Zeus said:
Maybe be a silly question - but what are the reasons / benifits to removing Rosie ( Rosie is the Sense UI right? )?
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Well, for one the fact that the phone is much much more responsive that way. I've been using it for several hours now and I can confirm it.

Sounds brilliant!
> What's the situation with the stock Android calendar, contacts and mail? Does this install them / make them default, or does this only affect touchflo so we're still using the Rosie versions?
> Do we retain the Rosie keyboard?
Thanks for releasing this - I know it's not hard to do with the terminal, but I can't be the only person who'd rather not see a command prompt on their phone. We'll be installing Linux next...

TGAQ600 said:
Do we retain the Rosie keyboard?
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We do.
TGAQ600 said:
What's the situation with the stock Android calendar, contacts and mail? Does this install them / make them default, or does this only affect touchflo so we're still using the Rosie versions?
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We retain HTC's custom ones too. However, I just followed the instructions in this thread to install Android's stock calendar app and I'm truly bewildered how much faster and cooler it is. I'm thinking we can open a thread collecting HTC's custom files and stock Android ones, with a quick tutorial to install them?

Whats the difference between removing Rosie, and just using sommething like Home Switcher, that lets you chose which environment to use ( Android or Sense UI)?

Noob question about enrevolved rom HELP PLEASE

I downloaded and installed the rom and everything appears to install correct however I have traces of the HTC Sense left on my phone... The dialer, the message, the people, the calendar, etc... are all still HTC icons and apps. I have the new stuff installed like super user, wireless tether and dev tools but this rom is supposed to be HTC sense free. Before I installed I performed a factory wipe and partition wipe but I think I missed something. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thx in advance.

The launcher is gone. Otherwise, Sense is still there.

I thought this rom had sense removed completely. I really dislike sense and was thinking this was a vanilla rom. There are a couple screen captures floating around and they dont have any sense visable in them. Hmmmm.

chites said:
I thought this rom had sense removed completely. I really dislike sense and was thinking this was a vanilla rom. There are a couple screen captures floating around and they dont have any sense visable in them. Hmmmm.
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There are obviously more themed builds that are floating around for beta test. Just wait, I'm sure Froyo 2.2 will be ported fairly soon. If not, I'll learn to dev myself

[Q] HTC People/Dialler apk or zip available?

Hey guys,
Just wondering if there is a HTC People or HTC Dialler app which is extracted from the HTC ROM's either in apk format or as a zip which I can flash? I've searched the forum but not found anything - wondering if they can be extracted since I assume that they can work without HTC Sense (e.g. when using different launchers)
I want to use OpenDesire but don't like the stock Android contacts/dialler.
Any help would be appreciated.

Hey, you can use Launcher Pro for sense like widgets. Otherwise sense widgets cannot use with default launcher on froyo.

kubilay.demir said:
Hey, you can use Launcher Pro for sense like widgets. Otherwise sense widgets cannot use with default launcher on froyo.
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Hi - thanks for your answer - I know that I can use Launcher Pro etc but what i'm really interested in is the actual phone app and the contacts app which are on the HTC ROM's. When using a Sense ROM, if i change launcher to, for example, Launcher Pro, then i can still use the HTC Phone and Contacts app - thats what i'm after on a non-Sense ROM.
The only sense integration is with Facebook Sync I think - which I could live without.

there is no option using sense widgets on froynly with launcher pro but i dont like it,i like sense widgets but i dont like sense,only widgets that i like.

I like to know if there's a way too, I don't like android's contacts\dialer either.

As far as I'm aware, the HTC dialler and phone .apk are too deeply integrated with sense to work as a standalone app on non-sense roms. Simply removing the apk won't work.

rolfd said:
As far as I'm aware, the HTC dialler and phone .apk are too deeply integrated with sense to work as a standalone app on non-sense roms. Simply removing the apk won't work.
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Cheers Rolfd - that would explain why no one has done it!
Does anyone know of any alternatives which offer smart dialling by typing in the name, etc?

Market: Dialer One

You could try Dialer One on the market.
Edit: I'm too slow!

Thanks guys - I'll try Dialler One on my next visit to Senseless Froyo!

Dialer one is the best in the market I think as a replacement for HTC's dialer however you could also check out "NubDial" some people prefer that.

beidl said:
Market: Dialer One
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Yes "Dialer One" is providing very "Sensi"ble way to use phonepad. Thanks

[Q] ADW Launcher w Sense - Battery and RAM Usage

i was wondering if having ADW on top of Sense UI takes up more memory and thus draining the battery more? i installed it two days ago, and i've noticed my battery is draining a bit quicker. for example.. with just stock Sense, if i charge fully and unplug overnight.. by the time i wake up (usual 6hrs of sleep).. it'll be down about 4%. the past two mornings with ADW, it drops about 10%. both times running Lou's Redemption Rom and both bump charged. is Sense still running in the background while ADW is also running?

Yes it is running you have to de-sensitize the ROM, and you'd have to ask lou about that im not famililar with that ROM

ok thanks.. lou mentioned he was planning working on a sense-less version. but what about if i install adw on a vanilla rom? would the vanilla launcher still be running also in the background?

So if I'm running skyraider but using launcher pro do I have to kill the Sensu UI process that's running, and will that conserve my battery?

if you clear defaults then unistall rosie.apk then htc sense will be off your phone

sorry didnt mean clear defaults, idk why i said that. i meant clear data. of course other little bits and pieces of sense will still be present running (ie bloatware), but the base ui will be gone, and hence it will not be running in the backround, which is pretty good for battery life in my opinion.

It will also break your HTC Facebook Contact sync though, so you'll have to go through your contacts manually with the Android Facebook App and sync them. Correct?
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RegnierD said:
It will also break your HTC Facebook Contact sync though, so you'll have to go through your contacts manually with the Android Facebook App and sync them. Correct?
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I believe this only happens if you remove Friendstream and its widget.
If you want to remove sense and its widgets the tainted vanilla version of my theme will do that automatically.

USAsokr said:
I believe this only happens if you remove Friendstream and its widget.
If you want to remove sense and its widgets the tainted vanilla version of my theme will do that automatically.
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I see you're using LauncherPro with that rom. How easy would it be to uninstall that and put ADW on? Anything i should watch out for by doing that?
Also, this can be done with the stock/rooted/deodexed version posted by rmk40 or do i need to start with redemptive revolution? (saw that it was based off his rom)
One of the things that bugs me the most is getting a 6 bar signal meter on a stock froyo rom...I've beat my wife several times out of frustration.

i cant quite tell what your saying about the 6-bar thing, but there is a .zip file that can be used to revert to 4 bars. also, as for the theme, i would recommend just removing the apk's yourself if you can. the theme is for sure much quicker and more convenient, but theres no way it can be exactly what you want, and its not guarenteed to be stable with your rom since its fairly new. launcher pro can be easily uninstalled just like any app

SLOflatlander said:
i cant quite tell what your saying about the 6-bar thing, but there is a .zip file that can be used to revert to 4 bars. also, as for the theme, i would recommend just removing the apk's yourself if you can. the theme is for sure much quicker and more convenient, but theres no way it can be exactly what you want, and its not guarenteed to be stable with your rom since its fairly new. launcher pro can be easily uninstalled just like any app
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Thanks for the reply. What i mean about the 6 bar meter is that a stock froyo rom comes with a 4 bar meter, most of the themed icon packs dont convert it to a 6 bar. I've seen a few threads that list off all the different apk's to uninstall to be senseless, but they are rather old and fear that some havoc could ensue with the newer frameworks out there.

its just a matter of whether or not you know what the apks do. if you dont know what one is, then chances are it is probably important. just by searching the /data/app and googleing names you should be able to get a relatively good idea of what you can safely delete

1. Install your desired launcher replacement.
2. Install this zip from rom manager or recovery.
3. Let it remove all of sense while keeping only the bare essentials.
4. Profit.

SLOflatlander said:
if you clear defaults then unistall rosie.apk then htc sense will be off your phone
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so that's the only part needed removed if i just want to replace the launcher with adw?
USAsokr said:
1. Install your desired launcher replacement.
2. Install this zip from rom manager or recovery.
3. Let it remove all of sense while keeping only the bare essentials.
4. Profit.
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will this keep the widgets? i like the sense calendar and agenda widgets.

radiohead14 said:
so that's the only part needed removed if i just want to replace the launcher with adw?
will this keep the widgets? i like the sense calendar and agenda widgets.
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Sense widgets are only available in Sense. You can't use them anywhere else.
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Porting phone.apk from stock to cyanogen

So right now I'm in dsixda's rom kitchen, trying to pull a few stock apps(phone, dialer, contacts, messaging) from a rooted stock rom(cr 2.13 OTA) to the nightly CM7. It's giving me process.com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly at boot and won't let me past. So I know that the OTA rom is froyo and CM is gingerbread, I'm assuming thats my problem. so that being said, first am I right? What do I need to do to make this work? and where can I get a stock gingerbread rom? can I simply drag and drop phone.apk, dialer.apk, etc. or is there more to it?

TheUnknown7 said:
So right now I'm in dsixda's rom kitchen, trying to pull a few stock apps(phone, dialer, contacts, messaging) from a rooted stock rom(cr 2.13 OTA) to the nightly CM7. It's giving me process.com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly at boot and won't let me past. So I know that the OTA rom is froyo and CM is gingerbread, I'm assuming thats my problem. so that being said, first am I right? What do I need to do to make this work? and where can I get a stock gingerbread rom? can I simply drag and drop phone.apk, dialer.apk, etc. or is there more to it?
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I don't think that will work. Espresso roms are sense, cm roms are not, they have different frameworks and such. First off, I'm PRETTY sure phone.apk is just the backend to sms/dialer/radio/etc., so you can leave that alone. Why do you want to move those apps over to cm7? Theming? Messaging and contacts I KNOW won't work because they require the tmobile framework resources that cm roms don't have, same with the dialer. You won't be able to move messaging either, since it has different coding from froyo to gingerbread. Contacts and dialer you MIGHT be able to move over if you ALSO move over the com.htc.resources.apk from /system/framework to the same location on the cm rom. You also might have to move the com.tmobile.framework.apk or something like that from /system/app to the same location on cm7 as well.
That may or may not work, it'll more likely just cause force closes everywhere since htc apps are very dependent on other apps and proprietary framework resources that stock android doesn't have.

I don't understand why you would want any of that. To each his own, but I think cyanogen has made all of that stuff better and simpler. The only thing he needs to add is the ability to end the call from the notification bar. I thought sense had a good idea there
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I'm not knocking CM I do like it, it's just still buggy. For example in his contacts when entering a new a number with the keyboard the numbers are haywire and dont work, so you have to use the touchscreen. The main thing with the dialer is I miss the T9 speeddial, and messaging is a bit buggy as well, plus I like the old mms.apk ui better. For now I found out about dialer 1 on the market and will use that, but hopefully when it's all said and done things will be better on CM. Can anyone suggest a good messaging app from the market? contacts too maybe?

TheUnknown7 said:
I'm not knocking CM I do like it, it's just still buggy. For example in his contacts when entering a new a number with the keyboard the numbers are haywire and dont work, so you have to use the touchscreen. The main thing with the dialer is I miss the T9 speeddial, and messaging is a bit buggy as well, plus I like the old mms.apk ui better. For now I found out about dialer 1 on the market and will use that, but hopefully when it's all said and done things will be better on CM. Can anyone suggest a good messaging app from the market? contacts too maybe?
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I use GoSMS. It's free, and you can theme it and such.

Alright. and almost forgot, the stock music player... any way of porting that? I really like the original widget better, and I miss controlling it from the lock screen. I want the old calendar back as well. thoughts?

i missed the dial by name from the SenseUI - this app is a GREAT replacement, you swipe from side to side to get to recent/favs/dial, and it's free: https://market.android.com/details?id=kz.mek.DialerOne

TheUnknown7 said:
Alright. and almost forgot, the stock music player... any way of porting that? I really like the original widget better, and I miss controlling it from the lock screen. I want the old calendar back as well. thoughts?
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this is available in the later CM7 nightlies (30+) - you can hold the volume buttons to do prev/next, and you can even have the controls on the lock screen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_gY1fGpKBs&feature=player_embedded
This is a replacement contacts called Phonebook 2.0. It's pretty cool.
Also, pretty much any of the widgets in sense are sense only ;p

Thanks guys. Yep figured out about the music player, thats good. Already using dialer one, I like it better actually. Now I'm missing the calendar. I really miss being able to see when stuff is coming up on the old widget. Any body got anything on that?

TheUnknown7 said:
Thanks guys. Yep figured out about the music player, thats good. Already using dialer one, I like it better actually. Now I'm missing the calendar. I really miss being able to see when stuff is coming up on the old widget. Any body got anything on that?
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The stock calendar widget is an agenda style widget
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