OK, I've seen a few threads similar to this question, but no definitive answers anywhere. I'm currently running SnS Sense ROM 1.5, and I've been looking for a launcher that's a bit different than the stock one, mainly because I like the dock that's across the bottom, similar to what I had with MIUI. After trying out ADW, LauncherPro and GO Launcher EX, I've decided on GO. It just fits what I need best, and the calendar application (which is actually very important to me for work) is second to none, even standalone widgets on the market. Now, I want to uninstall the stock launcher, mainly because it takes up almost 7 MB of space on a system where I really only have about 45 MB of free space (with it installed). If I uninstall it, will I not be able to reinstall b/c it's a system app if I decide to go back to it, like what happens if you uninstall Facebook for Sense? Also, can I uninstall HTC Sense as well, or should I not uninstall either of them? I could really use the space though. Would freezing it via Titanium give me that space back?
Really if you are going to delete the launcher altogether (which I don't know much about) if you don't use much of sense, get an AOSP ROM. You would be able to afford to have an additional launcher on top of stock with plenty of room.
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imheroldman said:
Really if you are going to delete the launcher altogether (which I don't know much about) if you don't use much of sense, get an AOSP ROM. You would be able to afford to have an additional launcher on top of stock with plenty of room.
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Nah, I had MIUI for about 3 months before going back to Sense....it's not Sense I dislike, it's really just the stock launcher. I like the integration of everything that Sense has, especially Facebook for Sense. I really kinda wanna just delete the launcher. I think what I'm going to do is set up GO launcher the way I want, so I have both Sense with stock launcher and GO launcher both running the way I want, then I'll make a Nandroid of that. Once I have that, I can reboot, delete the launcher and see what happens without fear of really screwing things up. I still would like an answer to my questions though, if anyone can help out.
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I am getting a Desire soon and personally I would rather remove Sense UI, but this is not longer possible the easy way.
Can anyone explain if you can remove sense another way? I have heard people say to use Launcher2 or HelixLauncher to get the 3D app drawer and the nexus one launcher. Can anyone confirm this works?
Thanks!
Yep if your install either you can make them default and use them instead but it will still have the Sense theming of all the apps / status bar etc and obv the HTC widgets wont work
ok thanks or the quick reply
so if i use either of these launchers i will not be able to use HTC widgets?
and when/if the desire gets rooted i'll be able to stick a nexus one rom on?
has anyone had any experience with either of these launchers on the desire?
im new to android so i apologise for the noobish questions
Not a problem
Nope you won't be able to use the HTC Widgets... but you can launch the HTC Sense launcher at any time and get access to your widgets though it's a bit of hassle doing that everytime hence i'm gonna stick with htc sense launcher myself.
Both the nexus launcher and helix work great on my Desire, no problems as far as i've been using it.
Not sure about putting then nexus rom though, sorry
thanks for the info.
so installing launcher2 enables the 3D app drawer from the nexus one?
just to clarify lol
Yep the home screen looks like the nexus one and you get the 3D drawer with fades. It looks pretty good! I just wish the widgets still worked then it would be perfect.
thanks again for your quick reply
so where do i download this launcher 2? from the android market when i get the phone?
sorry so many questions!
Not a problem,
Helix you can get from the market but launcher2 you will need to get from somewhere else but if you search these forums you will find one you can install no problem
awesome, thanks again.
one last request: which version did you use? i've searched here and elsewhere and each version is different and im not sure which to use
I'm not sure to be honest, if you know how to check then I can tell you?
I have a question I downloaded Flipz's Fresh ROM and it comes with Espresso launcher installed by default. I really don't like it and the default arch launcher at least tells you what page you're on. Is there anyway to uninstall it or flash an apk or something and get the default launcher back?
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you don't need to bump your own thread if it's only been 30m since you've posted. maybe if it's been a day or two, but not every 30m.
you could uninstall launcherpro (i think that's what fresh uses), then reinstall it from the market. it won't look the exact same. but, there are ways to customize it. or, you could just try a whole different launcher, like adw.
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you don't need to bump your own thread if it's only been 30m since you've posted. maybe if it's been a day or two, but not every 30m.
you could uninstall launcherpro (i think that's what fresh uses), then reinstall it from the market. it won't look the exact same. but, there are ways to customize it. or, you could just try a whole different launcher, like adw.
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No it doesn't use launcherpro it uses espresso which is cooked into the rom, I don't want launcherpro or adw they take up additional resources and I really don't like their look.
You should try themes, or wait for different rosies to come out. Try the manup theme, its pretty beastly
I have only ever changed my romm from 2.1 to 2.2 stock. Not sure what makes a custom rom so much better. What else can you physically do? Is there one that works with ota stock radio and froyo update (downgraded to get it). I am rooted on 2.2. I would like to see whats so cool about changing. Advice?
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Try them out for yourself. Personally I like the fact that custom roms have verizon bloat removed and also seem the run more smoothly. Just remember to create a Nandroid backup of your stock rom so you can go back to it whenever you want.
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I have only ever changed my romm from 2.1 to 2.2 stock. Not sure what makes a custom rom so much better. What else can you physically do? Is there one that works with ota stock radio and froyo update (downgraded to get it). I am rooted on 2.2. I would like to see whats so cool about changing. Advice?
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Download ROM Manager and Titanium Back up... make a Backup of your ROM currently and try out another ROM! no harm in trying it. If you don't like it you can always go back to EXACTLY how you left it.
Anyways... every ROM has there "thing" and they usually start off as a vanilla or a sense based ROM. A ROM can be optimized to to be much snappier and even come with their own custom kernels. Don't forget that you can get better battery life! They all work with the Stock froyo radio... except maybe the Desire ROM. I think you need the latest radio leak for that one, but you can install it and mess with it... just no signal.
These devs pretty much can add, delete, and modify practically anything and everything and it seems to be ALWAYS better over stock.
Examples...
-My app drawer has added functionality now. I can uninstall apps straight from the app drawer and I can organize my apps in FOLDERS inside the app drawer so now it's not just a huge list of icons anymore.
-When adding apps to my homescreen I can change the naming convention or have no name at all!
-ROMs come with a lil "theme" to them so us users don't have to hassle with adding the mods our self.
-battery indicators
-notification drag down bar
-rosie can be different (vanilla, sense, expresso) with right button customed
-widgets can be themed to look more aesthetically pleasing
-a mix mash of vanilla and htc apps are used (best of both worlds)
-the Inc camera can be replaced with the EVO
-added Pre-Installed Apps for us (ex. wireless tether)
.....etc.
The list can go on and on. you can do a lot of this on your own but why when a dev has done it for you? and not only were they nice enough to create a nice ROM for us but they also went through beta testers to catch most of the bugs and glitches you would find if you did it yourself!
Anyways, download and flash a couple ROMs and you will never go back!
Thanks for the awesome response. I certainly would like folders in my app drawer so i didnt use a whole screen for folders. Thanks again
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His rom sounds like uncommensense. Most roms dont actually do that. His does. Your launcher can also add alot of customization. Launcher pro allows you to elimanate names but you cant name folders where as open home allows you to.hes right check it out. Thats most of the fun.
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His rom sounds like uncommensense. Most roms dont actually do that. His does. Your launcher can also add alot of customization. Launcher pro allows you to elimanate names but you cant name folders where as open home allows you to.hes right check it out. Thats most of the fun.
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correct... those were just examples. every rom has their "advantage" over others. the custom app drawer is definitely ROM specific.
i was wondering if having ADW on top of Sense UI takes up more memory and thus draining the battery more? i installed it two days ago, and i've noticed my battery is draining a bit quicker. for example.. with just stock Sense, if i charge fully and unplug overnight.. by the time i wake up (usual 6hrs of sleep).. it'll be down about 4%. the past two mornings with ADW, it drops about 10%. both times running Lou's Redemption Rom and both bump charged. is Sense still running in the background while ADW is also running?
Yes it is running you have to de-sensitize the ROM, and you'd have to ask lou about that im not famililar with that ROM
ok thanks.. lou mentioned he was planning working on a sense-less version. but what about if i install adw on a vanilla rom? would the vanilla launcher still be running also in the background?
So if I'm running skyraider but using launcher pro do I have to kill the Sensu UI process that's running, and will that conserve my battery?
if you clear defaults then unistall rosie.apk then htc sense will be off your phone
sorry didnt mean clear defaults, idk why i said that. i meant clear data. of course other little bits and pieces of sense will still be present running (ie bloatware), but the base ui will be gone, and hence it will not be running in the backround, which is pretty good for battery life in my opinion.
It will also break your HTC Facebook Contact sync though, so you'll have to go through your contacts manually with the Android Facebook App and sync them. Correct?
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RegnierD said:
It will also break your HTC Facebook Contact sync though, so you'll have to go through your contacts manually with the Android Facebook App and sync them. Correct?
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I believe this only happens if you remove Friendstream and its widget.
If you want to remove sense and its widgets the tainted vanilla version of my theme will do that automatically.
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I believe this only happens if you remove Friendstream and its widget.
If you want to remove sense and its widgets the tainted vanilla version of my theme will do that automatically.
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I see you're using LauncherPro with that rom. How easy would it be to uninstall that and put ADW on? Anything i should watch out for by doing that?
Also, this can be done with the stock/rooted/deodexed version posted by rmk40 or do i need to start with redemptive revolution? (saw that it was based off his rom)
One of the things that bugs me the most is getting a 6 bar signal meter on a stock froyo rom...I've beat my wife several times out of frustration.
i cant quite tell what your saying about the 6-bar thing, but there is a .zip file that can be used to revert to 4 bars. also, as for the theme, i would recommend just removing the apk's yourself if you can. the theme is for sure much quicker and more convenient, but theres no way it can be exactly what you want, and its not guarenteed to be stable with your rom since its fairly new. launcher pro can be easily uninstalled just like any app
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i cant quite tell what your saying about the 6-bar thing, but there is a .zip file that can be used to revert to 4 bars. also, as for the theme, i would recommend just removing the apk's yourself if you can. the theme is for sure much quicker and more convenient, but theres no way it can be exactly what you want, and its not guarenteed to be stable with your rom since its fairly new. launcher pro can be easily uninstalled just like any app
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Thanks for the reply. What i mean about the 6 bar meter is that a stock froyo rom comes with a 4 bar meter, most of the themed icon packs dont convert it to a 6 bar. I've seen a few threads that list off all the different apk's to uninstall to be senseless, but they are rather old and fear that some havoc could ensue with the newer frameworks out there.
its just a matter of whether or not you know what the apks do. if you dont know what one is, then chances are it is probably important. just by searching the /data/app and googleing names you should be able to get a relatively good idea of what you can safely delete
1. Install your desired launcher replacement.
2. Install this zip from rom manager or recovery.
3. Let it remove all of sense while keeping only the bare essentials.
4. Profit.
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if you clear defaults then unistall rosie.apk then htc sense will be off your phone
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so that's the only part needed removed if i just want to replace the launcher with adw?
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1. Install your desired launcher replacement.
2. Install this zip from rom manager or recovery.
3. Let it remove all of sense while keeping only the bare essentials.
4. Profit.
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will this keep the widgets? i like the sense calendar and agenda widgets.
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so that's the only part needed removed if i just want to replace the launcher with adw?
will this keep the widgets? i like the sense calendar and agenda widgets.
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Sense widgets are only available in Sense. You can't use them anywhere else.
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Hey guys been reading for a bit...Actually about 2 days now lol
Anyone else have a hard transistion over?
A few things im excited about is the wifi calling and possibly tehtering.
Right now Im tring to accomplish getting a different theme and removing the bloatware and might just wait for ICS to come out before I start playing with roms I feel like I got the phone a bad time because soon we will be transitioning over.
So right now,
Get a theme where I can access and change my music with out opening the to the home screen...
Wifi calling
And possibly tether but I think I need to install a custom rom and freeze the tether option.
Other than that just figure things out.
Firstly, you cant remove bloatware, truely, without rooting your phone. However, you can hide certain apps with a themer/launcher.
Root free, the most iphone-like launcher is Espier launcher 5.x . Espier also has a safari like browser called Espier Browser. Both of these apps can be found in the market place and will fool you into thinking you have an iphone.
The best iphone like lock screen is the miui lockscreen on the market.
Yea I don't know if I want to go iphone style theme I was looking at some other threads even tried a few widgetlocker I couldnt figure this one out find some nice ones on this site just couldn't get them to look like that one mine.
The other was lockbot its was a bit cheesy.
I will have to look into launcher(s)
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Yea I don't know if I want to go iphone style theme I was looking at some other threads even tried a few widgetlocker I couldnt figure this one out find some nice ones on this site just couldn't get them to look like that one mine.
The other was lockbot its was a bit cheesy.
I will have to look into launcher(s)
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The girlfriend and I both really like golauncher and golocker, but you'll have to play with them and figure out which works best for you.
Give it a bit of time and you'll really like the phone I think. It takes a bit to get used to finding things. The OS has a ton more depth to it so it can be a bit overwhelming at first, but once you get the lay off the land you'll be able to enjoy it a lot more.
Both my girlfriend and I had iPhones before Android and couldn't go back. Unless you're really itching for some new feature you can only use by rooting the phone I'd just take some time to familiarize yourself with the phone and it's menus. New roms add a lot of flexibility and new features, but the new options/moved menus may just add to the frustration for now.
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I would personally suggest WidgetLocker, as you can put a music player widget(I'd suggest pure music widget 4x2), and DX Home as the homescreen. It's just iphone-like enough to look really nice, but it has android where it counts.
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Welcome to Android Heaven.
Here you'll find many choices during your PERMANENT stay
1) Awesome Customization
2) CIQ free
3)Games with better graphics
4)No Bloatware
5) Customs rooms and kernals
6)Google and Social Integration
7)Bigger Screen
8-9999999999999999999999999999999999999) Tell you the those reason later. Going to destroy something with my build in android phone camera laser/rocket/hologram
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Welcome to Android Heaven.
Here you'll find many choices during your PERMANENT stay
1) Awesome Customization
2) CIQ free
3)Games with better graphics
4)No Bloatware
5) Customs rooms and kernals
6)Google and Social Integration
7)Bigger Screen
8-9999999999999999999999999999999999999) Tell you the those reason later. Going to destroy something with my build in android phone camera laser/rocket/hologram
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Don't forget the kernel update for the Valkyrie rocket.
Any who back on topic. If your completely new, you're gonna want to wait a bit to root and ROM, as it can get overwhelming. Get a good feel of how it works. Look at a lot of reviews for your phone on YouTube, then search around the forums for some good tips. Especially stickies.. and yea
That's about it.
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if you don't really want a launcher that bad you can play around with the Samsung Launcher thing, and add music instead of contacts etc... Home Button > Settings > edit > switch >take out whatever you want and add whatever you want, sure it goes out of order but you can always put it back in order by Home > Settings > View Type > Alpha, etc..
blazin6969 said:
Hey guys been reading for a bit...Actually about 2 days now lol
Anyone else have a hard transistion over?
A few things im excited about is the wifi calling and possibly tehtering.
Right now Im tring to accomplish getting a different theme and removing the bloatware and might just wait for ICS to come out before I start playing with roms I feel like I got the phone a bad time because soon we will be transitioning over.
So right now,
Get a theme where I can access and change my music with out opening the to the home screen...
Wifi calling
And possibly tether but I think I need to install a custom rom and freeze the tether option.
Other than that just figure things out.
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Best launchers are Go Launcher EX, ADW Launcher, or Launcher Pro in my opinion. If you want an iphone-like experience, MIUI is a good way to go but i dont think its quite ready for prime time for our phone though theres a MIUI Launcher standalone available, which has many of the same features from a UI standpoint.
As for lock screen controls, apps like Poweramp have lock screen controls for music. There are also lock replacements like Go Locker and Widget Locker that have customizable lock screens.
peconaut said:
Welcome to Android Heaven.
Here you'll find many choices during your PERMANENT stay
1) Awesome Customization
2) CIQ free
3)Games with better graphics
4)No Bloatware
5) Customs rooms and kernals
6)Google and Social Integration
7)Bigger Screen
8-9999999999999999999999999999999999999) Tell you the those reason later. Going to destroy something with my build in android phone camera laser/rocket/hologram
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Is is strapped to a shark?
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Like jumping to any platform you get your pros and your cons, You have a more flexible OS but Battery might not be as good the list goes on. and not every OS is made for everyone just give it a shot you have 30 days to change your mind.
Thanks for the info guys! Yea been playing with it a bit more I think the screen is a million times better than my 3gs I might try go locker or the launcher today
Get qq launcher. I use it now and love it. it's free in the market and had s bunch of different internal themes.you can use.
I'm using the iPhone theme for obvious reasons
There's a thread called home screenshots in the theme and apps section where you can take a look at how some ppl have their home screens set up with different launchers, themes, widgets, and icons that way you can get some ideas of how you might wanna set things up as for roms it's really up to you and which you like better there's no harm in trying each one til you find your daily driver remember you can always mix different roms and kernels and find what combo works best for you (just remember to stick to roms and kernels that are for our specific model you don't wanna end up with your first android paper weight) .. Btw I was the same had been using iPhones since the first one to the iphone4 and this was my first Android and haven't looked back since love this phone it's a beast!
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If you want to change the lockscreen around, try milocker. Its free and there are alot of options, plus you can change your lockscreen wallpaper.