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shame on HTC

what the hell!!!...shame on htc...if they can put sense 3.5 on htc explorer with 600 Mhz processor and 512 mb ram....with GB....then why not on desire with 1GHz processor and 512 mb ram??....
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abhishek0704 said:
what the hell!!!...shame on htc...if they can put sense 3.5 on htc explorer with 600 Mhz processor and 512 mb ram....with GB....then why not on desire with 1GHz processor and 512 mb ram??....
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Umm, maybe because it is a phone two years old?
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Mate I reckon it's the screen resolution. Explorer is 320x480 so they can sense up ICS. They could offer this rom to the desire users (in theory) but it'll look like poop on the 480x800 screen with low resolution sense. To bump all the sense stuff up to desire resolution is too big for 512.
Just a thought.
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erklat said:
Umm, maybe because it is a phone two years old?
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Indeed.. it seems people want phones to be updated for all eternity.
We were lucky to even get GB officially.
If you want the latest then you just have to root and install a custom rom.
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snakeeyes21 said:
We were lucky to even get GB officially.
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Nah, it was merely a buggered 'developer' update. That probably means developers were meant to iron out bugs etc.
Man, there are so much idiots here that I'd gladly change my senior member title to senior whatever-opposite-of-member-is out of shame

snakeeyes21 said:
Indeed.. it seems people want phones to be updated for all eternity.
We were lucky to even get GB officially.
If you want the latest then you just have to root and install a custom rom.
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Your lucky you at least got a major update from OS 2.2 to 2.3...
The newer Desire S doesn't even look to be getting ICS!
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abhishek0704 said:
what the hell!!!...shame on htc...if they can put sense 3.5 on htc explorer with 600 Mhz processor and 512 mb ram....with GB....then why not on desire with 1GHz processor and 512 mb ram??....
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Aren't all the Desire update problems because they can't change the HBOOT size OTA though? It's impossibility, not laziness and lack of customer support.

Cadabena said:
Aren't all the Desire update problems because they can't change the HBOOT size OTA though? It's impossibility, not laziness and lack of customer support.
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But they can try to release this like they released the GB version...atleast all the rooted users can flash it...
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It's due to the internal memory and how it's partitioned. It simply won't fit.
ticket closed.

Actually, the entire desire family is a mess.
Desire - Proven to be able to run sense 2.1 and gingerbread but not updated to sense 2.1 and gingerbread
Desire HD- Can run Sense 4.0 and ICS, not being planned to update to sense 4.0 and ICS
Desire S - Same as DHD
Incredible S - Same as DHD
Desire Z- Not even updated to sense 3.0 and 2.3.5
Sensation XL is just a overclocked DHD*

HTC are in the business of making phones.........not supporting 2 year old models who they would like them to sign up for the latest handsets.Been said before and its a fact.

sebastianlow said:
Actually, the entire desire family is a mess.
Desire - Proven to be able to run sense 2.1 and gingerbread but not updated to sense 2.1 and gingerbread
Desire HD- Can run Sense 4.0 and ICS, not being planned to update to sense 4.0 and ICS
Desire S - Same as DHD
Incredible S - Same as DHD
Desire Z- Not even updated to sense 3.0 and 2.3.5
Sensation XL is just a overclocked DHD*
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Hi, where's your source for DHD NOT getting ICS?
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It is indeed a shame...

it's better of ull buy another htc phone not all phones can be updated I guess. It's part of the business

olyloh6696 said:
Hi, where's your source for DHD NOT getting ICS?
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Desire S should get ICS. DHD is highly unlikely to get ICS seeing that its a 15 months old phone already.
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Desire - Proven to be able to run sense 2.1 and gingerbread but not updated to sense 2.1 and gingerbread
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Yeah, I think that if they actually started with 5 years support guarantees, more people would buy them.

itachi1706 said:
Desire S should get ICS. DHD is highly unlikely to get ICS seeing that its a 15 months old phone already.
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Thanks for that!
But doesn't the DHD and Desire S have virtually the same specs?
So the DHD should get the upgrade if the Desire S does.
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olyloh6696 said:
Thanks for that!
But doesn't the DHD and Desire S have virtually the same specs?
So the DHD should get the upgrade if the Desire S does.
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Well the only difference between those 2 phones as far as I can tell is the LCD and screen size. So yes. It should get it IF HTC wants to update it.
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itachi1706 said:
Well the only difference between those 2 phones as far as I can tell is the LCD and screen size. So yes. It should get it IF HTC wants to update it.
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And Desire S has a front camera
I hope HTC update it..
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After ICS!

Any idea what kind of operrating sysytem we can expect after ics...like after honeycomb came ics what next
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I guess Android 5 will be released after ICS.

pven said:
I guess Android 5 will be released after ICS.
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I'd have to agree with you on that one.
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Obously i know that im saying like any rumors or images of how itll look like
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Well I mean we had NO idea what ICS would look like at all until that weird video was released of a galaxy s running it, which was only about a month or two before it was fully released. My guess is we won't be finding out for some time
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My guess is that with how well its been received and how much more polished it is, we will be seeing smaller improvements and not a major revision for a while.
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I think Android 5 will have USB host support for all android phones ever, /system weigh about 60mb, run extremely quickly and make you waffles for breakfast every morning.
Edit: At least, that is the rumor that I heard.

nickeedoo said:
I think Android 5 will have USB host support for all android phones ever, /system weigh about 60mb, run extremely quickly and make you waffles for breakfast every morning.
Edit: At least, that is the rumor that I heard.
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No bacon? Pfft. I want nothing to do with that OS then.
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You know what would be smart? If google only made two android phones that worked with the next update. One with physical keyboard, one without. Only difference.
And here's something you probably didn't think of as a benefit of that. Over time, communities like XDA would ditch their old phones, and start using the only android phone. Then, there would be a HUGE AMOUNT of support for literally anything that we could think of for Android, and it would ALL WORK all the time, because Android would be universal. Anything at all. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the combined devs on XDA developed a holographic projector out of that phone.
But, sadly, I don't think Google will do that. Oh well. They sure as hell would start pulling people from the iPhone and not push them towards it if they did.

biohazrd51 said:
No bacon? Pfft. I want nothing to do with that OS then.
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Agree.....no waffles without bacon ...anyways a friend of mine told me that apple is suing HTC for idk making or coping some of its stuff idk...any idea what this is about
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Android Jelly and Ice cream? That would follow the naming convention.

It should be called Jelly Bean
And these guys can be the proud sponsors...
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burtcom said:
It should be called Jelly Bean
And these guys can be the proud sponsors...
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What do u suggest it be called than
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Barry:// said:
What do u suggest it be called than
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I think they have announced the name as jelly bean.
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Pretty sure I've heard it called Jelly Bean as well and might have read somewhere that it will bring tablets and phones together (instead of honeycomb for tablets and ICS for phones)

projectkennedy said:
Pretty sure I've heard it called Jelly Bean as well and might have read somewhere that it will bring tablets and phones together (instead of honeycomb for tablets and ICS for phones)
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ICS brought it together. Unless they are doing something amazingly additional to it?

S-off on the way?

I was on google+ helping someone out about rooting his one x then someone else had some interesting things to say (I've blacked out names and pictures incase it's legit, don't want to get any one in trouble)
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What do you guys think?
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Probably a troll
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nism0o said:
Probably a troll
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You never know, HTC might have seen the error of their ways and decided to give us s-off
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Sounds interesting. I hope Jellybean is around the corner
I tried the alpha build and its smooth as hell
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I mean you removed his name from the list which I find understandable, and the least you could do is provide is with information on who he is? Without those details we can only assume bull****.

shadehh said:
I mean you removed his name from the list which I find understandable, and the least you could do is provide is with information on who he is? Without those details we can only assume bull****.
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All his profile links to is a website called game-modo. Nothing else in his profile apart from where he lives (UK)
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bogfather said:
All his profile links to is a website called game-modo. Nothing else in his profile apart from where he lives (UK)
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Despite him not having any information confirming that what he is saying may be legit there's still a possibility.
Considering the fact that the 2.05 test update has been leaked a while back now makes me believe that all options are on the table.
I'll just wait till then

You better had blackened your own name in those screenshots too. Now it was a matter of minutes till I found your post including that guys posts...

wph said:
You better had blackened your own name in those screenshots too. Now it was a matter of minutes till I found your post including that guys posts...
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The conversation was in the nearby feed so anyone could have read it, I was just being courteous and not posting names. If he didn't want it known I don't think he would have posted in an open feed
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HTC hasn't had jelly bean for a long time
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hugebulge said:
HTC hasn't had jelly bean for a long time
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And you can back this statement up how exactly?
I'm not saying that HTC deffinately don't have it, I'm saying that they might not not have it

hugebulge said:
HTC hasn't had jelly bean for a long time
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HTC had the code of Jelly Bean some weeks before official presentation.
Google introduced the Android PDK with Jelly Bean: http://androidandme.com/2012/06/news/googles-android-pdk-could-mean-quicker-updates-for-consumers/

I just read xmoo's update of his experience with a HOX XE device, and I'd not be too sure if HTC would really provide an OTA update incl. S-OFF.
Maybe the update will make S-OFF easier to achieve, but in the past it usually did not, or am I wrong?

I can't imagine, given every other communication from HTC up until now, that they'd suddenly decide to allow users full access to the previously restricted areas of the phone.
And even assuming that they did, I definitely can't see them pushing this ability to all users rather than providing a specific warranty-voiding tool to do so.
That, combined with the fact that he says there'll be a new kernel included as if that's something special rather than a routine part of any update, makes me think that he doesn't know what he's talking about.

The-Last-Hylian said:
And you can back this statement up how exactly?
I'm not saying that HTC deffinately don't have it, I'm saying that they might not not have it
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Jelly bean hasn't been in a functional state for all that long. Most of the builds would have something major broken.
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Original posts and conversations sound like BS. Anyone who actually had that kind of information wouldn't be sharing it publicly like that.
We have every reason to believe that HTC HAS had the Jelly Bean PDK for some time. Google specifically said that major OEMs have already had access to it for a while, and if HTC isn't a major OEM, I don't know who is.
And finally, HTC has already said that if they were to give us S-OFF, which is possible in the future, it would be through HTC-Dev.

AJerman said:
Original posts and conversations sound like BS. Anyone who actually had that kind of information wouldn't be sharing it publicly like that.
We have every reason to believe that HTC HAS had the Jelly Bean PDK for some time. Google specifically said that major OEMs have already had access to it for a while, and if HTC isn't a major OEM, I don't know who is.
And finally, HTC has already said that if they were to give us S-OFF, which is possible in the future, it would be through HTC-Dev.
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That's what I thought, but he was adamant the guy I was helping should wait.
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AJerman said:
Original posts and conversations sound like BS.
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So this person interrupted the OPs thread with a valuable PSA to stop what's he's doing because JB's going to be out soon and it's going to be great? The 2.05 leak has been out for weeks and there's still no deployable version. The thread interrupter, if credible, would know how slowly the wheels of progress move at HTC and s/he'd also know about and probably be active on XDA. Saying something unsupported like that here would get him/her chewed up and spit out.
It seems more like someone looking for validation of how important they are than providing any real "news." Hell, I could go on G+ and say I've heard from a credible source that JB won't be released until January. No one would believe that even though it's no more or less credible because everyone wants to think JB is just around the corner. Samsung had the earliest access of any manufacturer to ICS because of the GN. How many months after that did it take for any of their own devices to get the update?
History is the best predictor of when we'll get JB and its months, not days and weeks. All these Sasquatch sightings being reported from non-credible sources aren’t going to make it happen any faster.

I take it we're all at the same conclusion, the guys talking rubbish.
I'll keep helping the person who wants to root on here instead of g+, at least on here people help and share instead of trying to stall
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bogfather said:
That's what I thought, but he was adamant the guy I was helping should wait.
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BTW, I think it's terrific that you take the time to help novices 1:1 to be able to get the most from their phones. XDA used to be like that before it became the place for people to gossip, *****, argue, and seek their 15 minutes of fame.

After 2 years + with my desire, then "Bam!" it's suddenly like a new phone!

Having come to the end of two years with my desire I'm due an upgrade. I'm holding on for a phone coming out later this year. Meanwhile I decided to be adventurous and change my one and only rom that has served me so well, miuxj. I check out Evervolv 3.0.3.p7 Jellybean that is "pre-beta" and I kid you not.... I have a new phone. It is an awesome rom. I am actually shocked and pleasantly surprised that the end is better than the beginning! Makes hanging on to my desire sweeter while this rom is being developed. These developers are like artists at work, thankyou guys!
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Same experience with CronMod CM7/AOSP
I had official gingerbread ROM for two years - it was stable, quick enough... well, I was almost happy with that.
Of course, with decreasing free memory I started to think about custom ROM.
And I'll tell you one thing... IT'S AMAZING
I fell for CronMod-bravo (CM7/AOSP), with ICS theme for ADW launcher and it looks like a brand new phone, with lockscreen gestures and mods, customizable row and column counts (now I've got 5x5 icon grid on screen) and lots more... and lots of free memory! I'm using Sandisk Class 10 microSD card, with 1.5GB EXT3 partition... and installing every app I had to uninstall before because of low memory
Now I'm looking forward to stable ICS release, Sandvold or Spazedog... whatever comes first

Forget ics... Jellybean leaves it in the dust!
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Tuffcheez said:
Forget ics... Jellybean leaves it in the dust!
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Yh because JB "pre-alpha" is rock solid and stable aint it :sly: lol
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Tuffcheez said:
Forget ics... Jellybean leaves it in the dust!
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I've never understood all this thoughts...
:banghead:
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I wasn't expecting much from Jellybean pre-alpha 7 as it's not even beta, but it's fast and at this point I'm using everything without hitches. In fact it's flipping brilliant!
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It's snappy with a capital S! Don't scoff until you've tried!
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Tuffcheez said:
It's snappy with a capital S! Don't scoff until you've tried!
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Have tried it..dont like it and i like a phone to work 100% not 70% n thats me being nice.. u want to see snappy with a capital S, download mildwild oxygen or OxyZM both oxygen based and then ul see snappy with capital S
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The same thing happen to me! I've got my Desire for 2 years now and got an offer for a new phone.
So i made an decision to install an new Rom on my phone instead. Installed MokeeOS and right now i'm as happy as having an new phone!
We dont need new phone's like all consumers do, just install an new Rom

70 %? Incorrect installation most probably, you have to follow instructions. Works brilliantly here, and if they can squeeze any more out of it, happy days!
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Tuffcheez said:
70 %? Incorrect installation most probably, you have to follow instructions.
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Hahaha ok 73%. Go read whats working and not working. Out of 44 there is 10 things not working or sometimes work r can be improved.
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nlooooo said:
I've never understood all this thaughts...
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I'd say taunts would be more appropriate here?
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Never thought we'd ever get a taste of Jellybean. Enjoy your Icecream before it melts. ^^
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Tuffcheez said:
70 %? Incorrect installation most probably, you have to follow instructions.
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jmcclue said:
Have tried it..dont like it and i like a phone to work 100% not 70% n thats me being nice.. u want to see snappy with a capital S, download mildwild oxygen or OxyZM both oxygen based and then ul see snappy with capital S
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Haha, the wildmild series is impressive, but the cm branch leaves the oxygens in the dust with the right customisations
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Please press thanks if I helped you in any way.
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I haven't tried jelly bean yet, I've been using Lords ice cold sandwich and been pretty happy with it. I haven't even looked into jelly bean yet, maybe it's time I take a look at it with your raving reviews
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Hahaha
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All kinds of FC's
Nonworking camera, video playback with haxxxezz
3G connection issues
soft reboots
reboots when you answer a call with alternative lockscreen from EVT
project butter in ur wet dreams
enough?
Not to mention what jmcclue here said. Plus the environment where you are not supposed to post any bugs, non workings etc where that
seriously hinders development. I know devs these days for sure know what are the intelectual capacities of ppl drooling all over things which convert HTC Desire to HTC 0,7 Desire, but Halls of shame etc. Really? I don't remember we were treated that way by Leedroid, Neophyte, Sibere, Droidzone, melethorn or any other ol sk00l developer here which actually improved your phones functionality when they delivered. And then there were morons among their quorum, but neither of them deleted their account here iirc because of that.
You are not supposed to stop using waht you want on your phones. U r supposed to stop suggesting things even yourselves don't know what works and what does not to other people as daily drivers.

I'm no expert. I've only ever tried 2 roms on my phone, miui xj - a work of art in my opinion, and the Jellybean pre-alpha p7 which to me is a serious upgrade in speed and smoothness.
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I changed the ROM after one year and now (after two years) its time to change hboot from stock to cm7r2

When is the next update for dinc2

Whens the next update and what will we expect on it?

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Unlikely.

Its tomorrow.

bc13 said:
Its tomorrow.
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No, HTC officially changed the release date to the day after tomorrow.
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Matthew, the "tomorrow" thing is an inside joke from another thread. The idea is that HTC will release an ICS update tomorrow but tomorrow will never come because by then it will be today.
HTC hasn't announced any release dates since missing the August deadline. They haven't officially said they won't update, but at this point it appears HTC and Verizon have quietly abandoned our phone.

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No, HTC officially changed the release date to the day after tomorrow.
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Crap we have went from never getting it to never getting it plus a day. We cant catch a break around here.:laugh:

You're out of luck.
They stopped updating that DINC2 awhile ago. I suggest flashing a new ROM.

Even CM7 is missing the love. Last merge was middle of December. Although they did post a New Year's nightly build.
-CM7 on DInc2

Well tomorrow I'll learn Linux and java and c and c++ and I'll make a kick ass ROM that's 4.2 oh and the phone will have teleportation capabilities.
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It's not that easy...

LMAO!!!

I sort of envy the Thunderbolt owners.
I don't envy them their phone, but their imminent ICS update.
-MROM on DInc2

Why does everyone think they said we will get the update in August, technically they said they will decide by then if they will release the update to us, kind of using lawyer terms to keep them from commiting to an actual deadline. So technically they havent missed the deadline and it could be 100 years from now and they still wouldnt have lied, nkt agreeing with their practices, actually their deceipt disgusts me...
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Update to be released tomorrow. See other thread for more on this. Stay tuned.
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Dinc 2 is scheduled after the Eris, hero and buzz... Expect the latest, most up-to-date version of froyo pushed to your dinc 2 tomorrow...
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Macrodroid said:
Dinc 2 is scheduled after the Eris, hero and buzz... Expect the latest, most up-to-date version of froyo pushed to your dinc 2 tomorrow...
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I wish. I loved Froyo. Someone should make a Froyo ROM for the Inc2.

Jizzylax said:
I wish. I loved Froyo. Someone should make a Froyo ROM for the Inc2.
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There was a PlainJane Froyo ROM, but all the links are dead and it's super old.
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Or somebody could port the OTA (I posted) from the O.G. Incredible that was announced.
TA4S

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Or somebody could port the OTA (I posted) from the O.G. Incredible that was announced.
TA4S
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That's just a bugfix, though, not an ICS upgrade. Maybe a little bit closer would be the Thunderbolt ICS OTA that's announced, but even that doesn't matter because what the devs need is the ICS kernel source for the DInc2. Nothing else will help.
-MROM on DInc2