I had to go to the mall the other day to pick up some another pair of shorts. Naturally, I stopped by the T-Mobile store. And Naturally the guy working there saw I had the TP2 and tried to sell me the G2. Naturally I asked about the TP3
His response for my question "Yes, T-mobile has the 'touch pro3' ready to be released. However, They are abandoning the name 'Touch Pro3' because it is being shipped with WP7."
I was kind of disappointed because this made it sound like the new phone would not have a keyboard (which is a big reason why a lot of you guys still have this phone, from what I've seen and threads I have read). But that was all the information he had for me. Also, he said, It will probably be released before Christmas. He said, he had heard people say around Thanksgiving time..
Sorry if this is a repost. Just wanted to share some news I found out. Also here is a picture from T-Mobile.com revealing a WP7. However, this looks more like the HD2, maybe the 'HD7' is what they are calling the TP2? Either way, WP7 has a better marketplace, and there phones better be slim and have a keyboard! Cheers
http://htc.t-mobile.com/hd7/
Yes, the HD7 is almost certainly the new version of the HD2.
The successor to the Touch Pro line appears to be the 7 Pro, only announced so far for Sprint.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805821
Hopefully versions will be coming to other carriers, as well. But the G2 is pretty sweet also.
Woopsies, sorry about that. I was browsing the forums earlier and noticed that all the stuff that I mentioned has already been posted about... I'm always late to the game.. haha. Thanks though
Up until this past week I had understood the "Touch Pro 3" was to be the HTC Hera which is the same form factor as the Touch Pro 2 but smaller and with a slight up tick to 600 MHz for the CPU. I was over at PDADB.net and ran into a whole host of HTC phones that will have Windows Phone 7. What appears to be the latest reincarnation of the Touch Pro 2 form factor is the HTC 7 Pro currently slated for Sprint. I saw another device...the HTC 8788 which also is a slider but I read conflicting info as to the slider...one said it's a keyboard and the other said it was a speaker. I'm not aware T-Mobile is releasing anything else from HTC other than the HD3 aka HD7. There are some questions in regards to whether it will have an external SD capacity or strictly internal only.
SnittyKitty said:
Up until this past week I had understood the "Touch Pro 3" was to be the HTC Hera which is the same form factor as the Touch Pro 2 but smaller and with a slight up tick to 600 MHz for the CPU. I was over at PDADB.net and ran into a whole host of HTC phones that will have Windows Phone 7. What appears to be the latest reincarnation of the Touch Pro 2 form factor is the HTC 7 Pro currently slated for Sprint. I saw another device...the HTC 8788 which also is a slider but I read conflicting info as to the slider...one said it's a keyboard and the other said it was a speaker. I'm not aware T-Mobile is releasing anything else from HTC other than the HD3 aka HD7. There are some questions in regards to whether it will have an external SD capacity or strictly internal only.
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Yeah, I heard most of this same stuff. But the phone you referring to I think is the HTC Surround that has speakers that slide out.
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I currently own the ATT Tilt but its time to get a new phone. I am debating on if I should wait and get the Touch Pro2 or just get the Touch Pro.
Any suggestions?
Thanks for your time
i'd just get a touch pro and use the manila from the TP2
i don't see anythiong hardware wise, apart from the screen, that would compel me to upgrade.
But which OS
What I'm interested to know is which Microsnot OS will they have on them. I have seen some articles where there is mention they may run 6.5.
It will be extemely interesting to see what the XDA chefs do with them once they get their cooky little hands on them
Personally I would be waiting.
I would say wait as i'm kind of in the same boat as you are in (however i solidified my decision when the Fuze came out and wanted to save my contract for the "next big thing"). I'll more than likely get this and hope to be the first person in line for it
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What I'm interested to know is which Microsnot OS will they have on them. I have seen some articles where there is mention they may run 6.5.
It will be extemely interesting to see what the XDA chefs do with them once they get their cooky little hands on them
Personally I would be waiting.
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Both the Rhodium and Topaz will ship with 6.1, and (the HTC branded ones at least) will get a free upgrade to 6.5 when its released.
OmniSpyder said:
I currently own the ATT Tilt but its time to get a new phone. I am debating on if I should wait and get the Touch Pro2 or just get the Touch Pro.
Any suggestions?
Thanks for your time
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If you have the money, feel free to buy one
i recently got me an Epix to hold me over till this badboy comes out.
Hey looks like the perfect kiaser/tilt replacement had the money for the touch pro but i guess im going to wait now think you should 2
I too am waiting on this bad boy to drop. Thought about the exeda but am going for this one first
The only real reason I think to get a Touch Pro / Fuze right now is because you simply like it looks more. The Touch Pro 2 will be a bit bigger and clearly look different.
But the Touch Pro 2 is the superior phone, so if you could pick a Touch Pro / Fuze now on contract, or wait a few months till you get it's follow up on contract... I will always choose for the Touch Pro 2 .
Yes yes, all the efforts being made in the ROM development will make A LOT of the new cool stuff in the Touch Pro 2 available to the Touch Pro 1... but still, I like the device more. More resolution, tad bigger screen (which makes entering text without having to flip open the keyboard easier), The slide-out qwerty can tilt like in your Kaiser / Tilt now, it has better speakers for speaker-phone mode.
I'm a Diamond user, so clearly not into the enterprise / corporate thing for my phone, but I always thought the Touch Pro was just a Diamond with QWERTY thrown in, while the Touch Pro2 clearly has a bit more to make it a business phone over the Diamond2.
i got rhodium
Hyins said:
i got rhodium
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They sell it in Taiwan already? How much approx?
I will definately wait for the TP2 as an upgrade from my TyTN.
The wait for T-Mobile NL to get it is quite long tho (approx. June)
thats not that bad might come to the us in sep hoping it gets here faster a looooooot faster
This is definitely one of the best designed of the recent HTC devices.
Odd that it didn't get the Touch HD's 5MP camera unit?
I got my Tilt (I think) about a month after it came out on AT&T. According to myATT I can upgrade at the beginning of September. Since there is no way that I can afford one of those mobiles without subsidized pricing I will be forced to wait until then. The rumours that I've heard indicate that the TP2 will be out then. So for me there's really no question of which mobile to get. The reasons that I prefer the TP2 over the TP: The screen. I have gotten so used to the tilting screen that I really don't want a phone without one. The 3.6" WVGA screen should make web browsing that much better also. Since software doesn't matter that much (thanks to the dedicated hackers of xda devs ), I would just like at the hardware.
Wait
I'd would wait.... the bigger screen, battery, and higher resolution is enough to wait for and hopefully HTC's proposal of a "Global" release means that every carrier gets TP2 at the same time.. check out the link to Sprint's 2009 line up ..... Rhodium= Q3 release http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/03/16/sprints-q1-q3-2009-device-roadmap-leaks/
Sprint 2009 line up
Rhodium scheduled Q3 release
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Rhodium scheduled Q3 release
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Wow, if that Roadmap leak is to be believed, Sprint's Rhodium will be both a cdma and gsm phone. That's pretty impressive for a US carrier.
Hyins said:
i got rhodium
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Hey can you please dump the radio, the rom and everything else?
Which radio version is you rhodium using?
Hi,
I live in Sydney, Australia.
I've owned a HTC Topaz until i sold it to my dad to upgrade to a better HTC phone.
I'm tossing up between waiting until the 11th of November and ordering the HTC HD2 from www.clove.co.uk or to purchase a Touch Pro 2 from ebay.
I just require general advice on which would be a better investment.
Background:
Engineering Student, requiring a smartphone that can organise a busy lifestyle and last a few years without hassles.
Thanks,
Harry.
HD2 without a doubt. plus the specs garantee that it wont be outdated in a while... unlike the TP2 since a 528 CPU will only take you so far
depends if you need a Keyboard mostly
Thanks Mike, that was one hell of a quick response.
After the Topaz I was itching for a keyboard, but i think you're right.
The snapdragon processor will last quite some time and it outweighs my need for a keyboard.
I'm sure HTC can fit a decent touch keyboard on a 4.3 inch screen.
Plus if you're ever doing major work on it, you can just buy a bluetooth keyboard for it.
Still don't know about the capacitive touch screen. Most devices I've played with that have them seem to be too sensitive and at the same time less accurate.
I wish they were releasing the HD2 in the US.
Could i get one more piece of advise please - which site would be the best to buy the HD2?
Reasonable postage + pricing would be great.
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Plus if you're ever doing major work on it, you can just buy a bluetooth keyboard for it.
Still don't know about the capacitive touch screen. Most devices I've played with that have them seem to be too sensitive and at the same time less accurate.
I wish they were releasing the HD2 in the US.
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they are. Q1 2010 actually
harryrao said:
Hi,
I live in Sydney, Australia.
I've owned a HTC Topaz until i sold it to my dad to upgrade to a better HTC phone.
I'm tossing up between waiting until the 11th of November and ordering the HTC HD2 from www.clove.co.uk or to purchase a Touch Pro 2 from ebay.
I just require general advice on which would be a better investment.
Background:
Engineering Student, requiring a smartphone that can organise a busy lifestyle and last a few years without hassles.
Thanks,
Harry.
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the keyboard on the TP2 is great...have used onscreen keyboards for the last 5 years and now would not go back ...if you do a lot of text input (emails etc) then go a TP2 plus the business slant is great for organising work and play... the real question should be, want a real keyboard or not... the speed of text input will out play any gain by the faster processor of the HD2... now a HD2 with a TP2 type keyboard & under 170 gms... that would be a killer device
No hardware kwyboard
Not an option for me
TP2 is the best hardware keyboard device to this date
I have the TP2 from Telstra and really like the phone. It has the keyboard which is the main reason for me choosing it. Apart from this, the phone's screen is big and bright. And the performance is snappy. What I don't like is the Telstra theme. But I have changed to a Hero theme which I am very pleased with. So all in all, I am happy with my choice.
HD2 is just a TP2 with out a keyboard (as bloggers who have it are saying)
Ok you get a more ram with the HD2 and a thin device (kinda)
But you pretty much just between Keyboard + touchscreen or no keyboard and full touchscreen
at the end of the day its up to you. pick what you want.. remember your on a forum with users who have both devices and going to stand behind they phone and defend it so all you going to hear is users with HD2 saying "GET THE HD2" and users with TP saying the same thing
actually , i use the hardware kwyboard rarely...
but it looks cool , so i choose TP2
HD2 its in a league of its own. Its super fast and responsive. If you want to have great performance and impress your friends go for the HD2. I want the TP2 for the keyboard.
PS: The HD1 has the requirements for an upgrade to Windows Mobile 7, so that might be a plus too.
I've been a member of this site for several years and love it! I've recently been tempted to buy an LG Expo from AT&T. It has great features and specs. Would this site consider supporting such a device? I'd obviously rather have an HTC HD2, but AT&T doesn't offer it. The Touch Pro 2 is just like my Touch Pro with a larger screen, so I can't justify spending extra cash on it.
So anyway - Device support other than HTC?
Sorry
As stated many time before only HTC devices on XDA
This is the owners and admin position
That's fine! I like the Expo for it's specs, but I'm attached enough to this site to buy an inferior (by specs only) HTC phone. I've had HTC phones since the Wizard and always loved them. If anyone has an inside scoop that AT&T might carry the HD2 then I might hold out for it instead of getting the Touch Pro 2.
I don´t know if Leo will be for your carrier, but deciding Leo or Rhodium will reduce to:
What I prefer: More processor and bigger screen? or a hardware keyboard and a smaller screen?
On my case I prefer Rhodium
And I really have enough power to handle all the apps I use
I'm a big fan of a large screen & Snapdragon cpu power, so the HD2 is the coolest
So is a Palm htc made?
flyboy
Yes some models, have a look on the Wiki and you´ll find out the models made by HTC
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So is a Palm htc made?
flyboy
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yes, they have them down at the asylum free to check in you.
meatrocket said:
That's fine! I like the Expo for it's specs, but I'm attached enough to this site to buy an inferior (by specs only) HTC phone. I've had HTC phones since the Wizard and always loved them. If anyone has an inside scoop that AT&T might carry the HD2 then I might hold out for it instead of getting the Touch Pro 2.
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That is funny, you took the words right out of my mouth. My contract is up with AT$T, but they have no decent new phones to move to. You are right, my " customized " Tilt runs just as good as any Tilt 2, so can't justify the expense and the new contract . There was a rumor that AT$T 's new Android offering would be the HTC Lancaster, it's unofficial appearance was unofficially canceled in Aug. The rumored carrier for the Leo is T-mobile. Like you however, I am still holding out hope that AT$T gets it's head enough out of Apples ass to offer us a decent phone sometime in the near future.
Ive Had My Touch Pro 2 For A Year And Some Change. Ive Had Some Fun Modding And Androidding It (LOL) But Its Time For Me To Move On To A Faster Phone That Will Take On WinMo 7 And Have A Business Phone On The Side. I Will Be Moving Over To The HTC Leo Forum (HTC HD 2) Next Week When T-Mobile Releases It And I Will Have A BB 9000 As My Backup.How Many Of You Are Moving On Soon? And To What Phone/PDA? Will You Keep Your Touch Pro 2 As A Backup? Yes? No? Why?
charlieb620 said:
Ive Had My Touch Pro 2 For A Year And Some Change. Ive Had Some Fun Modding And Androidding It (LOL) But Its Time For Me To Move On To A Faster Phone That Will Take On WinMo 7 And Have A Business Phone On The Side. I Will Be Moving Over To The HTC Leo Forum (HTC HD 2) Next Week When T-Mobile Releases It And I Will Have A BB 9000 As My Backup.How Many Of You Are Moving On Soon? And To What Phone/PDA? Will You Keep Your Touch Pro 2 As A Backup? Yes? No? Why?
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No matter what phone I move to and when, the one thing I'm going to hold on to is the keyboard from my TP2....I fully intend to frankenstein it onto any device I may use in the future
Point being....I won't be changing devices until (unless) somebody releases another WM unit with specs at least as strong as the HD2, AND a keyboard as good as the TP2's. 'Till then, I'll be happily thumb-dancing away, Rhodium-style!!
Touch Pro Keyboard With HD Screen
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No matter what phone I move to and when, the one thing I'm going to hold on to is the keyboard from my TP2....I fully intend to frankenstein it onto any device I may use in the future
Point being....I won't be changing devices until (unless) somebody releases another WM unit with specs at least as strong as the HD2, AND a keyboard as good as the TP2's. 'Till then, I'll be happily thumb-dancing away, Rhodium-style!!
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Me And My Friend Was Talking Yesterday And He Said He Wants The Touch Pro 3 To Be The HD2 Screen/Specs With The Touch Pro 2 Keyboard. I Think That Would Make Me Come Back. But The Touch Pro 2 Is Not Fast Enough For Me. I Wish It Could Be Overclocked.
HTC Desire already preordered...
I'll certainly miss the awesome hardware keyboard and tilting screen.
Problem with the TP2 is not the hardware for me. It's just WinMo. I've been on this platform ever since my Touch Dual a couple years ago and I know it's very capable. But the platform is outdated.
I hope WinMo7 turns out to be as revolutionary as M$ claims it will be. In the meantime, I'll be jumping ship to Android for now...
The Nexus One did it. I sold my X1 for a tilt2 after the t-mobile only Nexus one was announced. It took about 45 minutes for me to pick up one of the AT&T Nexus Ones after it was announced today. I've been running Android recently to see how I liked it, and it wins for me over WinMo.
I'm willing to adopt any Windows Phone Series 7, keyboard or not. I say calm down on all the phones now, b/c the whole landscape as we know it will be changed by 1/1/11..
but yeah, this elusive TP3 would be nice..since a WPS7 phone can have a keyboard as seen by the LG, hopefully they're holding off for that..
im going to consider an hd2 in the future. i was thinking to get it much sooner, but ill wait a bit for the prices to come down. the tmo version has a really low price and should lower the price of the t9193. if i do, i will miss the keyboard and the speaker. but damn, that screen. it could make an iphone user commit suicide.
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it could make an iphone user commit suicide.
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That could only be proven with thorough, extensive testing. And then more testing. In fact, here, let me give you a hand with that
I am actually considering the AT&T compatible Nexus One. If it had a keyboard I wouldn't have to even think about it.
I am torn between the HD2 and the Desire. I haven't given up on WinMo yet, although I am disheartened by what I have seen of Windows Phone 7.
I also have a Toshiba TG01 which, although a flawed device, has convinced me that my next phone must have a 1GHz Snapdragon or better.
HD2
I definitely need something with a little more processor, so I've been thinking about the HD2. I will miss the keyboard some, but I've got so used to using swype, I don't think I'll miss it that much.
I really like my TP2, but I've even more so loved the Android OS - even though it doesn't totally work. If I could get an Android OS phone, with front cam, back cam, wifi, BT, FM radio w/ RDS, and a physical kb, I'd sell the TP2 in a heartbeat. I'm so over the winmo OS, and the new microsoft version doesn't look any better. Android OS please!
I love my Rhodium tooooooooo much to move onto another device.
When the time comes to renew my contract I'll probably get an HD2.
But I'll use my Rhodium as a phone. And the HD2 as a toy
i like my tp2. but as soon as us cellular gets something with more speed and not windows 7. ill be jumping ship. prob to android. ive read all the findings at mix 10 on windows 7. and i will be goin to android. windows 7 looks great. but its lockd down. and all they stopped us from doing with it. its not worth the wait. so bye bye wmo.
T-Mo HD2 next week will be replacing my TP2 which replaced my G1 which replaced my Wing.
Looks like a 6 month cycle.
I wish VZW would come out w/ the HD2...I might go with the Nexus one or this thing:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Saygus-Vphone-phone-pa_4463.html
I also like the HTC Incredible for vzw, it looks like HD2 hardware w/ android. Most likely i'll keep the keyboard and go w/ a saygus if anything (although chances are I wont get a new phone)
I keep looking at the Droid. Figure I'll wait a few months, see what shakes out with (if) the 6.5 update, and then move over to the Droid. I'm out of contract now with Sprint, and they don't seem particularly to care if people leave.
I am getting the HD2 for sure, I will keep my TP2 just to mess around with it but I have tested the Tmo HD2 a few times at my local store and I love it. I am just watching the time tick by until next Wednesday and I will be joining you in the NRG HD2 forum
TP3 only!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have until Summer 2011 before I can upgrade my Touch Pro 2, bear in mind though I kept my Tytn II for 3 and a half years because nothing else fitted form factor wise. I like the fact my screen tilts and the keyboard is phenomenal. It may be a while after my upgrade date it may not be, not forgetting that by then WP7 Series should have fixed all the alleged release issues such as no multi-tasking and no copy and paste, no side loading 3rd party apps, no full USB connectivity, no sd card loading......the list of faults with WP7 series so far is shocking.
I have been searching but I imagine since it is such a new device there isn't much info. I just would like someone to confirm if one of these will be able to work with the Tmobile US 3g network. From what I read on some ebay listings it appears to have the nessesary hardware but I would still like some kind of confirmation.
It does but they're pricy and all in all just a bad phone. Of all the wp7 devices it is without a doubt my least favorite even below the surround...
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I have been searching but I imagine since it is such a new device there isn't much info. I just would like someone to confirm if one of these will be able to work with the Tmobile US 3g network. From what I read on some ebay listings it appears to have the nessesary hardware but I would still like some kind of confirmation.
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Looking at the specs posted on GSM arena the device lacks 1.7 AWS freqs, and hence might only work on EDGE on TMO US.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_7_pro-3576.php
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Looking at the specs posted on GSM arena the device lacks 1.7 AWS freqs, and hence might only work on EDGE on TMO US.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_7_pro-3576.php
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That's right. Unless it's specificallly made for TMOUS, it's probably not going to have the 1700 band that's required for TMOUS 3G. TMOUS is the only carrier, I believe in the world, that uses that band for 3G.
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It does but they're pricy and all in all just a bad phone. Of all the wp7 devices it is without a doubt my least favorite even below the surround...
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Why is that? Seems to have everything. Not that it matters anymore since it looks like it isn't gonna work out. Major dissapointment that I can't get a keyboard and wp7 on tmobile. I got an HD7 with the intention of selling it as soon as I could get a keyboard. Wp7 is fantastic but without a keyboard it's really just a toy.
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Why is that? Seems to have everything. Not that it matters anymore since it looks like it isn't gonna work out. Major dissapointment that I can't get a keyboard and wp7 on tmobile. I got an HD7 with the intention of selling it as soon as I could get a keyboard. Wp7 is fantastic but without a keyboard it's really just a toy.
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I agree, the DVP is amazing. HD7 is one of the bottom tier ones though. HTCs initial lineup hasnt been to hot with WP7... it's sad because I love them as a company but their WP7 lineup has been embarrassing. The HD7 has crap battery life and the visuals are bad. Also the apps are much slower to load. Same with the touch pro except add a keyboard that always feels like its about to snap off and a tiny screen. Next theres the surround... dont even think I need to go into what's wrong with that... All in all just thoroughly unimpressive, Dell and Samsung were the ones who really shined and with post-release stuff LG has been good too.
Guess I might have to get the Dell Venue pro. The keyboard looks like it sucks but I guess it's better than nothing. Not being an htc device kind of sucks though for unlocking purposes.
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Guess I might have to get the Dell Venue pro. The keyboard looks like it sucks but I guess it's better than nothing. Not being an htc device kind of sucks though for unlocking purposes.
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I thought the same then I tried it. Easily beats out every other wp7 device. The feedback is great and I can use it in the dark without a glance... Its perfect for your thumbs... Honestly the best of the best for wp7. Its great. I'm typing on it right now.
Hello All,
I cannot answer your question regarding whether the HTC 7 Pro will work on T-Mobile US, but I want to ask those of you who have claimed that this device is so bad have actually tried using it.
I have 3 WP7 devices, an LG Panther, HTC 7 Pro and Samsung Omnia7
Of all these devices, the HTC one is the best (although the screen on the other is better I admit).
The battery life is excellent (JUST as good as on either the other phones). The keyboard is excellent.
The ONLY thing that I can find to complain about is that the phone only has 8Gb storage.
My bottom line is: Don't believe what just one person is saying! Get an opinion from more people before you ignore an excellent device!!
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Hello All,
I cannot answer your question regarding whether the HTC 7 Pro will work on T-Mobile US, but I want to ask those of you who have claimed that this device is so bad have actually tried using it.
I have 3 WP7 devices, an LG Panther, HTC 7 Pro and Samsung Omnia7
Of all these devices, the HTC one is the best (although the screen on the other is better I admit).
The battery life is excellent (JUST as good as on either the other phones). The keyboard is excellent.
The ONLY thing that I can find to complain about is that the phone only has 8Gb storage.
My bottom line is: Don't believe what just one person is saying! Get an opinion from more people before you ignore an excellent device!!
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O no, believe me, I would get the Htc 7 Pro in a second if I could. I had the Tilt and the Touch pro 2 and loved them both. Switching to sprint is just not an option.
nebc100 said:
Hello All,
I cannot answer your question regarding whether the HTC 7 Pro will work on T-Mobile US, but I want to ask those of you who have claimed that this device is so bad have actually tried using it.
I have 3 WP7 devices, an LG Panther, HTC 7 Pro and Samsung Omnia7
Of all these devices, the HTC one is the best (although the screen on the other is better I admit).
The battery life is excellent (JUST as good as on either the other phones). The keyboard is excellent.
The ONLY thing that I can find to complain about is that the phone only has 8Gb storage.
My bottom line is: Don't believe what just one person is saying! Get an opinion from more people before you ignore an excellent device!!
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EXACTLY, one mans sh_t is another mans gold. I've also got the 7 Pro and I can say i'm thoroughly satisfied and honestly, I don't know what all the slagging off was about. To each their own.
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Guess I might have to get the Dell Venue pro. The keyboard looks like it sucks but I guess it's better than nothing.
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The DVP keyboard does not suck. I find it really good, actually, and have been using it MUCH more than I thought I would.
The only thing it lacks is arrow keys like the LG ones.