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I currently own the ATT Tilt but its time to get a new phone. I am debating on if I should wait and get the Touch Pro2 or just get the Touch Pro.
Any suggestions?
Thanks for your time
i'd just get a touch pro and use the manila from the TP2
i don't see anythiong hardware wise, apart from the screen, that would compel me to upgrade.
But which OS
What I'm interested to know is which Microsnot OS will they have on them. I have seen some articles where there is mention they may run 6.5.
It will be extemely interesting to see what the XDA chefs do with them once they get their cooky little hands on them
Personally I would be waiting.
I would say wait as i'm kind of in the same boat as you are in (however i solidified my decision when the Fuze came out and wanted to save my contract for the "next big thing"). I'll more than likely get this and hope to be the first person in line for it
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What I'm interested to know is which Microsnot OS will they have on them. I have seen some articles where there is mention they may run 6.5.
It will be extemely interesting to see what the XDA chefs do with them once they get their cooky little hands on them
Personally I would be waiting.
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Both the Rhodium and Topaz will ship with 6.1, and (the HTC branded ones at least) will get a free upgrade to 6.5 when its released.
OmniSpyder said:
I currently own the ATT Tilt but its time to get a new phone. I am debating on if I should wait and get the Touch Pro2 or just get the Touch Pro.
Any suggestions?
Thanks for your time
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If you have the money, feel free to buy one
i recently got me an Epix to hold me over till this badboy comes out.
Hey looks like the perfect kiaser/tilt replacement had the money for the touch pro but i guess im going to wait now think you should 2
I too am waiting on this bad boy to drop. Thought about the exeda but am going for this one first
The only real reason I think to get a Touch Pro / Fuze right now is because you simply like it looks more. The Touch Pro 2 will be a bit bigger and clearly look different.
But the Touch Pro 2 is the superior phone, so if you could pick a Touch Pro / Fuze now on contract, or wait a few months till you get it's follow up on contract... I will always choose for the Touch Pro 2 .
Yes yes, all the efforts being made in the ROM development will make A LOT of the new cool stuff in the Touch Pro 2 available to the Touch Pro 1... but still, I like the device more. More resolution, tad bigger screen (which makes entering text without having to flip open the keyboard easier), The slide-out qwerty can tilt like in your Kaiser / Tilt now, it has better speakers for speaker-phone mode.
I'm a Diamond user, so clearly not into the enterprise / corporate thing for my phone, but I always thought the Touch Pro was just a Diamond with QWERTY thrown in, while the Touch Pro2 clearly has a bit more to make it a business phone over the Diamond2.
i got rhodium
Hyins said:
i got rhodium
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They sell it in Taiwan already? How much approx?
I will definately wait for the TP2 as an upgrade from my TyTN.
The wait for T-Mobile NL to get it is quite long tho (approx. June)
thats not that bad might come to the us in sep hoping it gets here faster a looooooot faster
This is definitely one of the best designed of the recent HTC devices.
Odd that it didn't get the Touch HD's 5MP camera unit?
I got my Tilt (I think) about a month after it came out on AT&T. According to myATT I can upgrade at the beginning of September. Since there is no way that I can afford one of those mobiles without subsidized pricing I will be forced to wait until then. The rumours that I've heard indicate that the TP2 will be out then. So for me there's really no question of which mobile to get. The reasons that I prefer the TP2 over the TP: The screen. I have gotten so used to the tilting screen that I really don't want a phone without one. The 3.6" WVGA screen should make web browsing that much better also. Since software doesn't matter that much (thanks to the dedicated hackers of xda devs ), I would just like at the hardware.
Wait
I'd would wait.... the bigger screen, battery, and higher resolution is enough to wait for and hopefully HTC's proposal of a "Global" release means that every carrier gets TP2 at the same time.. check out the link to Sprint's 2009 line up ..... Rhodium= Q3 release http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/03/16/sprints-q1-q3-2009-device-roadmap-leaks/
Sprint 2009 line up
Rhodium scheduled Q3 release
zellbz said:
Rhodium scheduled Q3 release
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Wow, if that Roadmap leak is to be believed, Sprint's Rhodium will be both a cdma and gsm phone. That's pretty impressive for a US carrier.
Hyins said:
i got rhodium
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Hey can you please dump the radio, the rom and everything else?
Which radio version is you rhodium using?
I cannot for the life of me decide which HTC phone to buy, previously I've had the following:
O2 XDA - Decent at the time
Blackjack II (Samsung) - decent phone
HTC TyTN II - Awesome business platform but too bulky
Nokia E71 - Best of the lot but hated Symbian OS (missed Win Mobile)
I want to buy one of the new HTC phones but I cannot for the life of me decide which one, it needs to last me a good 18 months and something I'll settle with and enjoy everyday I use it, stuff I'll be doing with it:
1. Emails - Googlemail, Microsoft Exchange, Hotmail
2. SMS - Will really need an unlimited SMS contract
3. MMS
4. Decent Facebook/Twitter/LinkedIn integration
5. Opera browser
6. Windows Mobile 6.5 (looks great)
7. Live messenger
8. Movies
9. MP3/Music
10. PDF's/Docs/Powerpoint (view only, not much editing)
11. Remote Desktop/Putty in worst case scenario
12. Shared internet
Ok what do you guys think?
Stunno I know you asked in another thread about the TP2, what do you think about it honestly now the novelty has worn off (if it has!)?
I cant imagine the Diamond 2 being up to the task of loads of typing, but I really like the look of it, but the more I look at what I need the TP2 ticks every single one of those boxes.
At the same time I'm loving the look of the HTC Hero (android) and would wait for that if it could also tick the above!
Damn this is hard to choose.
Also what the best place to get this phone in the UK? I was thinking MPD, is it worth phoning Vodafone after I have bought one to try to improve the contract? (I think some of you guys have done it)
But ultimately which damn phone should I buy! lol cheers
Gonna get one ordered tonight hopefully if I can decide.
Doubt you'll get any bad feedback in here about the Rhodium.
As far as I can tell everyone is extremely happy with theirs so far (par the odd faulty unit owners )
By far the best HTC Device I've ever owned (Par my Uni but it's a very close call)
Read through Shingers thread (if you haven't allready), it really is a stunningly impressive work of art, the hardware and OS integration is a first for HTC, the stock Rom is amazing, the screen is bright, vibrant and crystal clear, the keyboard has nicely spaced well sized keys (although not as good as Unis) and the tilt function feels much more solid than the Kaiser.
Forget the Topaz, the Rhodium blows it away
Cheers,
Beasty
I cannot make your decisions for you but my thoughts so far are:
Looking back over my Winmo phones, the one that I remember most fondly is the Wizard (Tmobile Vario). I loved that phone! Don't know why, it was big heavy and slow, but it didn't seem to matter at the time (I was gutted when I dropped it on a concrete floor and shattered the screen)
The TP2 is better in every way than the Wizard, and is the best Winmo phone that I have used, although it isn't perfect yet. I have a Vodafone branded phone and have had a few niggles due to the branding, or rather due to the removal of the branding. Oh and I have other niggle, my email always shows a new email even when there isn't one!
My only criticism would be that it is BIG! Which may be just because I have upgraded from a Diamond, which was tiny. If they could get the screen, keyboard and battery life in the Diamond's form factor I would sell one of my kids for it! (Actually I wouldn't. It would take two of them to get the phone )
I have only tried a few of the applications/uses that you have listed
1. Email, Exchange, Gmail work perfectly
8. Divx TV episodes work fine with Coreplayer
9. Only used the TF3D player and have had no problems at all (I don't mind the stock headphones, I must have funny shaped ears)
I've had a play on the G1 and am not a fan of the OS, yet, it seems thrown together somehow. But then again I'm not a great fan of Linux either for similar reasons
I think my Voda contract worked out cheaper than MPD (although I have the dreaded branding)
My advice?
Go to a Vodafone shop and try one! If you can live with the size then this seems to be the best phone out there at the moment
Really interesting question....
I would add, if you are LUCKY enough to find a shop that has a TP2. I went looking today, and
a) VF Business Centre: No demos, only to order.
b)Orange: No Stock yet although not discrimination tween business and personal customer.
c) T-Mobile - Nothing yet; End of July.
I am also looking for a professional device with very similar reqs to yours. I was looking at the Tytyn11, but took too long over it and so the TP2 seems a logical choice. However it is VERY NEW and it still has s/w compatibility issues like LogMeIn support etc. I have heard some of the issues are related to the high res screen. However, having talked to a number of people the TP2 does seem to be a de facto business device so I am thinking that if I am going to commit to a 24 month contract then I am better off doing it with something like the TP2 which I can grow into as the problems get solved rather than get something that will be obsolete asap.
I have also looked at MPD and fine and dandy if you want a unbranded phone, but the deal is not as good as VF's IMO especially when quidco included. Also I question whether I would get a replacement mobile as quickly from HTC as VF. Perhaps I would ......
And finally the keyboard.... If you need this then that rules out a lot of options. I do.
Just thoughts, and best of luck matey...
Back to my glass of wine in the courtyard enjoying the warm sun go down !!!
Sam
Thanks all
Stunno, appreciate you replying to my questions.
I'm still undecided, I would love to buy the TP2 and get it tomorrow but I'm still not sure, the keyboard is a big deal - I think I'd definately use it heavily, I did with my old TyTN 2.
Yesterday I went to two different Voda shops (business) and none had it in stock, one girl didnt even know what it was (lol).
Right now I'm down to these:
1. iPhone 3GS - bit of a gimmick though and too expensive, but I got to try it and although the functionality looks quite thin (I had an Ipod Touch so the interface novelty wore off) its a nice phone, dont think it will suit my needs.
2. HTC Hero - I like android and what its trying to achieve, I also love Linux (my job) but I do NOT like the way the device is shaped - nightmare in the pocket.
3. HTC Diamond 2 - The more I look at the reviews the more this phone is top of my list, BUT the only issue is the touch keypad, I just think it wont be good enough, I dont know.
4. Samsung Omnia HD - Amazing phone, but not a big fan of Symbian, was almost tempted to buy this until I read about the codec issues with the sound recording and Samsung stance on fixing it.
5. Samsung Omnia Pro - ????
Decisions decisions, so many damn phones!
Final question, did anybody here order from MPD on a Friday (contract) and get the phone saturday???
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Thanks all
Stunno, appreciate you replying to my questions.
I'm still undecided, I would love to buy the TP2 and get it tomorrow but I'm still not sure, the keyboard is a big deal - I think I'd definately use it heavily, I did with my old TyTN 2.
Yesterday I went to two different Voda shops (business) and none had it in stock, one girl didnt even know what it was (lol).
Right now I'm down to these:
1. iPhone 3GS - bit of a gimmick though and too expensive, but I got to try it and although the functionality looks quite thin (I had an Ipod Touch so the interface novelty wore off) its a nice phone, dont think it will suit my needs.
2. HTC Hero - I like android and what its trying to achieve, I also love Linux (my job) but I do NOT like the way the device is shaped - nightmare in the pocket.
3. HTC Diamond 2 - The more I look at the reviews the more this phone is top of my list, BUT the only issue is the touch keypad, I just think it wont be good enough, I dont know.
4. Samsung Omnia HD - Amazing phone, but not a big fan of Symbian, was almost tempted to buy this until I read about the codec issues with the sound recording and Samsung stance on fixing it.
5. Samsung Omnia Pro - ????
Decisions decisions, so many damn phones!
Final question, did anybody here order from MPD on a Friday (contract) and get the phone saturday???
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Just to add to the mix - Omnia 2 has started to get some coverage...
Yeah I noticed that too mate, the Omnia Pro?
Coming July, but still, there are many many bugs with the HD version (it maybe Symbian based but...) which puts me off.
I think I am going for the TP2, though my brain is telling me to wait a month or two.
without being device specific what I see is the need for you to do a lot of typing so i would recommend something with a great keyboard. Rhodium certainly has that
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a) VF Business Centre: No demos, only to order.
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To order, yes, but if you call up their upgrade line and be doubtful at them, they'll tell you that if you're not happy with it you can send it back within 7 days with no quibbles... That might only be relevant to current customers mind, and distance selling regs don't apply if you go to a store. I called them up just over a week ago since I was out of contract and had one delivered the next day. A friend got the HTC Magic on the same deal the same day, and another friend has an iPhone so we were able to compare the three phones over a number of days of real use. I kept the TP2... It works well enough, there are a couple of very minor niggles, but most of those are to do with Windows Mobile (and being new to it so expecting things to work in a slightly different way) rather than the phone itself.
Steve.
SuperAdvan said:
Thanks all
Stunno, appreciate you replying to my questions.
I'm still undecided, I would love to buy the TP2 and get it tomorrow but I'm still not sure, the keyboard is a big deal - I think I'd definately use it heavily, I did with my old TyTN 2.
Yesterday I went to two different Voda shops (business) and none had it in stock, one girl didnt even know what it was (lol).
Right now I'm down to these:
1. iPhone 3GS - bit of a gimmick though and too expensive, but I got to try it and although the functionality looks quite thin (I had an Ipod Touch so the interface novelty wore off) its a nice phone, dont think it will suit my needs.
2. HTC Hero - I like android and what its trying to achieve, I also love Linux (my job) but I do NOT like the way the device is shaped - nightmare in the pocket.
3. HTC Diamond 2 - The more I look at the reviews the more this phone is top of my list, BUT the only issue is the touch keypad, I just think it wont be good enough, I dont know.
4. Samsung Omnia HD - Amazing phone, but not a big fan of Symbian, was almost tempted to buy this until I read about the codec issues with the sound recording and Samsung stance on fixing it.
5. Samsung Omnia Pro - ????
Decisions decisions, so many damn phones!
Final question, did anybody here order from MPD on a Friday (contract) and get the phone saturday???
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You don't mention the N97 for some reason. When I was deciding on my upgrade I ended up with a straight choice between the TP2 and the N97 as I had decided that a keyboard was a must.
The TP2 won out because of several points WM being the most obvious (I've had loads of WM phones and am used to it) and Tomtom being the clincher ( I have a shockingly bad sense of direction which, incidentally, has been made much worse by Tomtom but at least I don't get lost now)
If it is down to TP2 v TD2 then it is simply a choice between keyboard v size
There are loads of shops with the TD2 in stock. Give it a go
EDIT: Vodafone gave me 7 days to return the phone if I didn't like it. IIRC Order by 2pm for delivery next day
I just received my TP2 yesterday. I brought it from MPD on payg voda which was £453 - it comes unlocked and unbranded so I chucked my o2 sim right in.
I as well as many others had a tough choise to make - I research everything to death before I buy them, and I have to say on most occasions when I do commit and buy, its a disappointment.
However now using the TP2 it has exceeded all my expectations from all reviews I read and video's I watched (probably 100+).
The stock rom is fantastic, very fluid, very productive and hides nearly all the standard windows mobile interface (only having to see it when using explorer).
I don't expect I can change your mind by this post, but what I will say is that once you actually have it in your hand you will understand why everyone here rants on about it. I compared it to my friends HD last night and the rom beats the HD rom in terms of speed and features, and the quality of the product itself is astounding.
Couple this with the future release of WM6.5, flash 10 for WM in Oct (beta), and HTC Sense release - you have a phone that should last you 18 months - after all, I don't think we will see WM7 on phones till the end of next year, so then is when you can upgrade again.
I haven't tried the TD2 or Samsung HD i900 (or whatever they called it now), but picking between this and the TD2 comes down whether you need a keyboard, or if you like things as small and compact as possible.
Let us know how you get on - keep trying to find a place to try it out
Sounds good - I am very tempted to just pay out for the SIM free as you did since most of the contracts on there incurr extra charge for daily surfing, my existing T-Mobile contract is up for renewal and does NOT incurr extra surfing charges, its also only £22!
I am tempted to renew it and see if I can get a better deal on unlimited texts and buy the phone SIM free from MPD or Expansys.
Definately the Rhodium... or wait for the Omnia Pro
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Sounds good - I am very tempted to just pay out for the SIM free as you did since most of the contracts on there incurr extra charge for daily surfing, my existing T-Mobile contract is up for renewal and does NOT incurr extra surfing charges, its also only £22!
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£450 or so for an unlocked handset equates to a lot of surfing!
My phone was free on 30/month (ex VAT), including 500Mb data which should be enough for my needs
Only downside is a 24 month contract
Steve.
i think htc hd is the best choice for know it has thin body 3.5 mm audio jack good battery bigger screen than all
I just recently bought a Palm Pre and returned it, hated it! So I bought the touch pro knowing it cam out almost a year ago (impulse buy). Now I am just curious, I know the touch pro 2 is coming to sprint, but its rumored that the hero will be out for sprint later this year, possibly December. Which one should i wait for?
i think major difference is the qwerty keyboard so decide if you need this or not.
lhwparis said:
i think major difference is the qwerty keyboard so decide if you need this or not.
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+ one is android and other WM, usually a big difference depending on what you like.
That will depend on what is for you need the device
TP2: Buissness oriented device with the second best physical keyboard (1st is from Universal)
Hero: Multimedia oriented device with an OS tha promises a lot in the future, by now it needs to grow up and madurate
Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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Haha, yeah I know, keyboard is a big deal to me. It's just WM seems to disappoint me a lot. Although I have high hopes for 6.5, I'm thinking sprint is waiting for 6.5 to release to touch pro 2, it would make it all that better!
But still, functionality versus a keyboard, I don't know! haah
I know what you mean about WM, but HTC have done a great job of masking the dull and boring monolike OS with Touchflo from what I have seen and WM 6.5 looks like a vast improvement at least visually.
Personally I think you, like me, would probably get bored of Android and the touch screen keypad would drive me nuts in the end.
I tried typing on an Iphone 3GS yesterday to get a (improved) idea of what a Diamond 2 or Hero might be like and with my fingers theres no chance I would type quickly on that ever, it would be like trying to look behind you without moving your head.
TP2 is the way to go, however the Omnia Pro is coming soon too, but then the Nvidia Tegra chipset powered HTC HD sequal is comign - I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.
SuperAdvan said:
however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
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the shape is virtually the same as the G1, and I've never heard anyone complain about any discomfort when they put the G1 in their pocket. and there may not be a hardware KB, but as far as onscreen KB's go, it looks like the Hero's will be one of best so far. and I like how the screen is capacitive and thus supports multi touch.
personally, I'm getting the TP2 when it comes out on AT&T. I'm also planning on picking up an unlocked Hero (unless it finds its way to the states, specifically AT&T). just want something else to play around with
Please buy both. Both has different strength, features & abilities. Both are totally different. I hope i will get one if god willing
For me it will be the one with the biggest screen & WM on it...TP2!
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For me it will be the one with the biggest screen & WM on it...TP2!
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Yeah but the hero has a capacitive screen right? or am I wrong about that? Im actually not sure but I would think that it does because all the other android ones by HTC ara capacitive
Edit: I checked and im pretty sure its capacitive but I just browsed through search results
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530600
The same question has been haunting me lately too. I've been waiting forever for the TP2 to come to AT&T and now I see this. If they end up having release dates close together I'm thinking I might go with the hero. The main thing that will bother me is the lack of keyboard since I'm coming from a Kaiser (Tilt).
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White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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White is not definite. Colors and providers are yet to be determined according to an HTC rep on a youtube video that I saw earlier (If I can track it down again I'll include it with an edit....)
SuperAdvan said:
I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.
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Agreed, but there's one big difference. You can get an upgrade discount on phones once every 1.5 years, otherwise you're paying out your A$$. Graphics cards are always the same (usually relatively lower) price.
SuperAdvan said:
I know what you mean about WM, but HTC have done a great job of masking the dull and boring monolike OS with Touchflo from what I have seen and WM 6.5 looks like a vast improvement at least visually.
Personally I think you, like me, would probably get bored of Android and the touch screen keypad would drive me nuts in the end.
I tried typing on an Iphone 3GS yesterday to get a (improved) idea of what a Diamond 2 or Hero might be like and with my fingers theres no chance I would type quickly on that ever, it would be like trying to look behind you without moving your head.
TP2 is the way to go, however the Omnia Pro is coming soon too, but then the Nvidia Tegra chipset powered HTC HD sequal is comign - I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.
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Yeah you seem like you have the same thoughts as I do. I think you're right about getting tired with the android phone. I love messing with WM and modding it. I know you can with android, but it will have its limits. The thing about touch pro 2 not being a capacitive touch screen, it bums me out and makes me ask why they won't do this with WM yet. I can say they have been improving their resistive screens, big difference from the mogul to the touch pro, so I hope they can do that again. I am definitely leaning toward the touch pro 2. Does anyone know why they won't go with the capacitive screen on WM or touch pro 2?
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Yeah you seem like you have the same thoughts as I do. I think you're right about getting tired with the android phone. I love messing with WM and modding it. I know you can with android, but it will have its limits. The thing about touch pro 2 not being a capacitive touch screen, it bums me out and makes me ask why they won't do this with WM yet. I can say they have been improving their resistive screens, big difference from the mogul to the touch pro, so I hope they can do that again. I am definitely leaning toward the touch pro 2. Does anyone know why they won't go with the capacitive screen on WM or touch pro 2?
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This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.
SuperAdvan said:
Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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LOL! Yeah, I don't like the shape of it too..
I would go for TP2 as it's not going to disappoint you!
Hard descision
touch pro 2 is coming to tmobile august 8th and hero im not sure but the magic is coming july 8th..the resisitive touch screen on the pro is so smooth it feels like its capacitive..and its alot bigger screen and has multitouch..but the hero has android and its built very nicely with the teflon coat and finger print proof screen..i hate phones so many choices ((
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This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.
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The resistive screen is one of the selling points for me, especially one as finger-friendly as TP2s. Best of both worlds. I get easy navigation without having to constantly sheath and unsheath the stylus, but I can use a compact and conveniently tucked away stylus when needed. I very much doubt I'll ever need it for the basic interface, but with some apps I'll want it. My Palm TX has been my primary Chinese-English dictionary for some time (before it, my Palm T|T and m500 served the same purpose), and the same software is available for WinMo. I'd just as soon use a stylus for character recognition. For that matter, I'd just as soon use a stylus for handwritten memos. I imagine capacitative screen users get by on both fronts just fine, but for me, I'm glad there's a good resistive screen still available.
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This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.
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So far with my TP2, I have not used the stylus at all and I am a pretty heavy business user, thats emails, facebook, youtube, general browsing and posting on forums, stock, sms.
Whats more I have yet to use the actual qwerty keyboard aswell, I find the touch one good enough everytime unless I'm typing a huge email or document.
My advice is go and actually look at the Diamond 2 and TP2 in the flesh, it is totally different to looking at it on the internet, it really is a quality product.
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touch pro 2 is coming to tmobile august 8th and hero im not sure but the magic is coming july 8th..the resisitive touch screen on the pro is so smooth it feels like its capacitive..and its alot bigger screen and has multitouch..but the hero has android and its built very nicely with the teflon coat and finger print proof screen..i hate phones so many choices ((
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sorry to burst your bubble, sir, but the TP2 doesn't support multi touch. that luxury is reserved for devices that have a capacitive display. and while the TP2 feels like it's capacitive, it isn't. the Hero, on the other hand, IS capacitive and therefore the screen supports multi touch
Ive Had My Touch Pro 2 For A Year And Some Change. Ive Had Some Fun Modding And Androidding It (LOL) But Its Time For Me To Move On To A Faster Phone That Will Take On WinMo 7 And Have A Business Phone On The Side. I Will Be Moving Over To The HTC Leo Forum (HTC HD 2) Next Week When T-Mobile Releases It And I Will Have A BB 9000 As My Backup.How Many Of You Are Moving On Soon? And To What Phone/PDA? Will You Keep Your Touch Pro 2 As A Backup? Yes? No? Why?
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Ive Had My Touch Pro 2 For A Year And Some Change. Ive Had Some Fun Modding And Androidding It (LOL) But Its Time For Me To Move On To A Faster Phone That Will Take On WinMo 7 And Have A Business Phone On The Side. I Will Be Moving Over To The HTC Leo Forum (HTC HD 2) Next Week When T-Mobile Releases It And I Will Have A BB 9000 As My Backup.How Many Of You Are Moving On Soon? And To What Phone/PDA? Will You Keep Your Touch Pro 2 As A Backup? Yes? No? Why?
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No matter what phone I move to and when, the one thing I'm going to hold on to is the keyboard from my TP2....I fully intend to frankenstein it onto any device I may use in the future
Point being....I won't be changing devices until (unless) somebody releases another WM unit with specs at least as strong as the HD2, AND a keyboard as good as the TP2's. 'Till then, I'll be happily thumb-dancing away, Rhodium-style!!
Touch Pro Keyboard With HD Screen
sirphunkee said:
No matter what phone I move to and when, the one thing I'm going to hold on to is the keyboard from my TP2....I fully intend to frankenstein it onto any device I may use in the future
Point being....I won't be changing devices until (unless) somebody releases another WM unit with specs at least as strong as the HD2, AND a keyboard as good as the TP2's. 'Till then, I'll be happily thumb-dancing away, Rhodium-style!!
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Me And My Friend Was Talking Yesterday And He Said He Wants The Touch Pro 3 To Be The HD2 Screen/Specs With The Touch Pro 2 Keyboard. I Think That Would Make Me Come Back. But The Touch Pro 2 Is Not Fast Enough For Me. I Wish It Could Be Overclocked.
HTC Desire already preordered...
I'll certainly miss the awesome hardware keyboard and tilting screen.
Problem with the TP2 is not the hardware for me. It's just WinMo. I've been on this platform ever since my Touch Dual a couple years ago and I know it's very capable. But the platform is outdated.
I hope WinMo7 turns out to be as revolutionary as M$ claims it will be. In the meantime, I'll be jumping ship to Android for now...
The Nexus One did it. I sold my X1 for a tilt2 after the t-mobile only Nexus one was announced. It took about 45 minutes for me to pick up one of the AT&T Nexus Ones after it was announced today. I've been running Android recently to see how I liked it, and it wins for me over WinMo.
I'm willing to adopt any Windows Phone Series 7, keyboard or not. I say calm down on all the phones now, b/c the whole landscape as we know it will be changed by 1/1/11..
but yeah, this elusive TP3 would be nice..since a WPS7 phone can have a keyboard as seen by the LG, hopefully they're holding off for that..
im going to consider an hd2 in the future. i was thinking to get it much sooner, but ill wait a bit for the prices to come down. the tmo version has a really low price and should lower the price of the t9193. if i do, i will miss the keyboard and the speaker. but damn, that screen. it could make an iphone user commit suicide.
The Jack of Clubs said:
it could make an iphone user commit suicide.
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That could only be proven with thorough, extensive testing. And then more testing. In fact, here, let me give you a hand with that
I am actually considering the AT&T compatible Nexus One. If it had a keyboard I wouldn't have to even think about it.
I am torn between the HD2 and the Desire. I haven't given up on WinMo yet, although I am disheartened by what I have seen of Windows Phone 7.
I also have a Toshiba TG01 which, although a flawed device, has convinced me that my next phone must have a 1GHz Snapdragon or better.
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I definitely need something with a little more processor, so I've been thinking about the HD2. I will miss the keyboard some, but I've got so used to using swype, I don't think I'll miss it that much.
I really like my TP2, but I've even more so loved the Android OS - even though it doesn't totally work. If I could get an Android OS phone, with front cam, back cam, wifi, BT, FM radio w/ RDS, and a physical kb, I'd sell the TP2 in a heartbeat. I'm so over the winmo OS, and the new microsoft version doesn't look any better. Android OS please!
I love my Rhodium tooooooooo much to move onto another device.
When the time comes to renew my contract I'll probably get an HD2.
But I'll use my Rhodium as a phone. And the HD2 as a toy
i like my tp2. but as soon as us cellular gets something with more speed and not windows 7. ill be jumping ship. prob to android. ive read all the findings at mix 10 on windows 7. and i will be goin to android. windows 7 looks great. but its lockd down. and all they stopped us from doing with it. its not worth the wait. so bye bye wmo.
T-Mo HD2 next week will be replacing my TP2 which replaced my G1 which replaced my Wing.
Looks like a 6 month cycle.
I wish VZW would come out w/ the HD2...I might go with the Nexus one or this thing:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Saygus-Vphone-phone-pa_4463.html
I also like the HTC Incredible for vzw, it looks like HD2 hardware w/ android. Most likely i'll keep the keyboard and go w/ a saygus if anything (although chances are I wont get a new phone)
I keep looking at the Droid. Figure I'll wait a few months, see what shakes out with (if) the 6.5 update, and then move over to the Droid. I'm out of contract now with Sprint, and they don't seem particularly to care if people leave.
I am getting the HD2 for sure, I will keep my TP2 just to mess around with it but I have tested the Tmo HD2 a few times at my local store and I love it. I am just watching the time tick by until next Wednesday and I will be joining you in the NRG HD2 forum
TP3 only!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have until Summer 2011 before I can upgrade my Touch Pro 2, bear in mind though I kept my Tytn II for 3 and a half years because nothing else fitted form factor wise. I like the fact my screen tilts and the keyboard is phenomenal. It may be a while after my upgrade date it may not be, not forgetting that by then WP7 Series should have fixed all the alleged release issues such as no multi-tasking and no copy and paste, no side loading 3rd party apps, no full USB connectivity, no sd card loading......the list of faults with WP7 series so far is shocking.
Hey all, I use my G1 and love it, Was happy with my MDA but now comes the debate.. TP2 or HD2, TP2 is still more expensive and I like the keyboard idea more.. but seems HD2 is stronger.
I know TP2 can install android os which sounds cool. But bottom line, should I forget about the HD2 and go after a TP2 or would you all say HD2 is defiantly better?
Im looking to use this more as a pocket pc vs a phone. =)
Hello,
As anyone day for ages: Rhodium has the best keyboard a smartphone has ever had. If you type a lot - go for Rhodium. Otherwise, Leo is in any way better imho.
Greetings,
Happy Rhodium user )
Yeah, if you are looking for pocket pc functionality I would go with the TP2. I can run Ubuntu on it, which you can't do with the HD2 (yet) I really really really can't say enough good things about the keyboard. But the HD2 is more horsepower for less cash. So if you need a keyboard for a more pc like experience, TP2. Otherwise, the HD2 seems like a natural choice.
Yea Im looking at HD2 specs.. quite impressive, flash camera, 5mp camera, 1 ghz processor (vs 528), wifi router mode (This one is big for me.. I use that on my g1 all the time, but if this built in one lets PSP, PS3 etc connect, then thats instant win!)
I heard from some the vk is not that bad. Big enough screen.
TP2 running ubuntu, I LIKE that idea ALOT. I always believe terminal commanding on a vk sucks.. but Id be willing to go for it. Processor speed and ram is always good to have.
TP2 is an awesome device, but I got used to typing on the display, and since the Leo's one is definitely bigger, I would choose the powerful HD2 now - with no doubts. I thought I cannot live without HW QWERTY keyboard, but it's all just about first few days (I hated the software keyboard for week or two). I recommend you HD2, although I'm TP2 user witch no major complaints .
BTW, TP2 can do WiFi routing with no problem . But the Ubuntu really sucks for now. Pain in the ass to move the cursor around.
HD2 will have the ability to run Android too you think? Or can it dual boot?
Yes, for sure the HD2 will get Android thru hatret. I would get even a step ahead writing that HD2 will run the Android much faster then TP2
When you do android on TP2 or HD2 would it have root access too?
I've used my TP2 as a wireless router for my laptop. Only tried with my laptop and my sisters imac, both worked.
Best place to check would be the android tp2 developer forums
WHOO HOO! Already sold out on CS. I got mine for 200$ I am now the owner of a HD2 =D ty all.
It'll be nice to see a comparison between tp2 and hd2. I know reviews are all over the place, and I have played hd2 in the store (of course they're out of stock, it's just the display model I'm fiddling with), but always nice to see from a person with real hands-on experience.
I wouldn't mind the upgrade, except I can't justify it. As a current tp2 user I really don't care the keyboard that much (touchpal takes care of all the type I need, plus copy paste, etc), but one flaw I found with hd2 is the phone is locked in portrait in word when I rotate it. I was trying to access the larger landscape keyboard in word, and it seemed not available. In contrast, iphone does this a lot better. I wish I can achieve that w/o additional software (I know it's do-able with other software but why do I have to?)
HD2 has all the awesome hardware specs, and I would very much like to get one if I don't already own my tp2 (can't really do the upgrade though). However what deters me also include the dying wm6.5 OS. Granted I think I hate wm7 even more (c'mon, MS, don't make wm another iphone OS), and I prefer the HD2 hardware running android. Maybe this is what I really want:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/htc-evo-4g-is-sprints-android-powered-knight-in-superphone-armo/
Mysticales said:
TP2 or HD2, TP2 is still more expensive and I like the keyboard idea more.. but seems HD2 is stronger.
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On amazon.com the HD2 is more expensive than the TP2.
But would be interesting to know, where you got your HD2 for $200 !!!
Good thing you chose the HD2. It beats the Rhodium in every way but the keyboard. But it comes with a great VK called Swype. I'm using that now on my Nexus One and its the fastest VK I have ever used! Nearly as fast as using my Rhodium's keyboard.
The Rhodium is extremely sluggish and the HD2 is not sluggish in any way. I tried one out a couple days ago and was blown away.
uhm,... anyone can answer my question? Where is the HD2 sold for cheaper than the TP2 ?
I got mine with a 2 year upgrade for my tmobile contract. =) 200$
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uhm,... anyone can answer my question? Where is the HD2 sold for cheaper than the TP2 ?
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Amazon and Wirefly both have it for $99 right now with a new line, and both they and T-mobile direct are offering it for $199 with a line upgrade.
Thanks Mysticales and sirphunkee!
Oh ok,... I thought you were talking about retailer prices (without a new line or upgrade). Cuz I was looking at amazon for just the devices and the HD2 is clearly more expensive than the TP2.
$99/$199 with a new line/upgrade is still a really good price,... they dont sell that cheap in Germany. Even with the most expensive service provider contract (about $150 / month fixed costs) you still have to add $300 for the device. Ridiculously expensive.
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Thanks Mysticales and sirphunkee!
Oh ok,... I thought you were talking about retailer prices (without a new line or upgrade). Cuz I was looking at amazon for just the devices and the HD2 is clearly more expensive than the TP2.
$99/$199 with a new line/upgrade is still a really good price,... they dont sell that cheap in Germany. Even with the most expensive service provider contract (about $150 / month fixed costs) you still have to add $300 for the device. Ridiculously expensive.
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It helps to balance out how much WE have to pay for an Audi or BMW over here
Do US T-mo devices work on the european T-mo network?
I bought the HD2 for my mother-in-law; I kid you not; my M-I-L but she's the cool type; anyway, I got the device 6 days after I ordered it March 24 and like all HardSPL2'd and flashed it with NRGZ28's Leo version of the ROM I have on my Touch Pro2.
Personally, I'm on the fence. I am absolutely in love with the Touch Pro2's form factor and keyboard. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know there's twice the horsepower under the hood of the HD2. We have 3G in town but where we live we have EDGE and if there was any one thing that stood out between my Rhodium and her Leo and that was how smooth Opera, Skyfire and MIE pulled up web pages and pretty darn fast despite EDGE.
Where the HD2 also excels is on a windshield mount and there above all using yuor finger pads really shines. I use CoPilot Live 8 and no problems at all using it there or any of the homescreen functions.
I use my TP2 for CoPilot Live 8, internet, email, text, taking pictures; games while I play a little I really have no interest. The TP2 was introduced by T-Mobile as the device for business professionals and the HD2 for entertainment and I really think that's how this is going to shape itself out and of course the keyboard.
Look, I put the 16 gig sd card in my TP2 and it ran the movies flawless. The games loaded and they ran flawless.
The HD2's form factor is my biggest issue; it reminds me of watching the Star Trek series; particularly TNG and remember those pads? That's what this device feels like in your hand; like holding the edge of a coffee plate. Body Glove makes a case for the Touch Pro2 that can take a beating; the HD2 is fragile and I've yet to see a case for it that can take the beating the case for the TP2 can. What's in T-Mobile stores today is a clear case and a kick stand and if there was ever one device that cried out for a screen protector this baby is it.
The HD2 is one of those devices I like and I don't like and T-Mobile introduced the device at a price set lower than the introduction of the TP2 and I bet the house had they introduced the TP2 at $199; they'd been sold out too, but up to about a week before the HD2 launched TP2s went for $269.99 with contract.
My data plan is T-Mobile Web (Unlimited T-Zones) and it's no secret its identical in every function as Unlimited Web for Smart Phones; difference is $19 cheaper at $5.99. Retail vs Contract or $449.99 vs $199.99 or $250.00 difference. That's a payoff of the device in 13 months if I choose not to factor my older MyFaves Plan vs Even More or Even More Plus into the equation. For those of us who have been with any one provider, let's be real, a device with voice, text and data isn't exactly cheap.
For those of us with grandfather plans it isn't just how cool the device is; it too is do we go it without a contract or with a contract; however for us a contract forces us to change our plan. The irony of it is, there is nothing in T-Mobile T&C that says T-Mobile Web is any less of a data plan than web2go or Unlimited Web for Smart Phones.
Ill agree there, Web browsing is actually ENJOYABLE now on the HD2. Which is good!