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Camera Zoom CM6.1

Is there a mod or is it being thought over about adding the zoom feature back into the volume control like on a stock phone? I'm new here to this forum and to this Rom as well although so far I'm loving it great work Devs. Any thoughts? Comments? Just curious as I take a lot of photos as I have a 2 year old daughter and hate carrying around a camera when I have a sweet 8 megapixel camera in my pocket.

You probably want to post over at the CyanogenMod Forums or the CM Issue Tracker to bring this up as a request.

Cm issue tracker where is that at one their site?
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Honeycomb Porting

Hi please remove this if it is not in the right place. Ok so i was in the Magic forum and i found that they have a Honeycomb rom in the making. Since the Magic has a mdpi screen i thought it would be nice to port it on to our Silde. Now with that in mind is there a dev out there that may want to guide me through the porting process? I have permission by the dev of the original rom to port it once it comes out. Any help would be much appreciated.
Original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974038

Thats possible? I thought the core of honeycomb was built to run on tablets purely
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I thought that too but devs started to ported to HDPI phones like the N1 and NS but I didn't think I see on our MDPI phones until I came over this thread... hopefully someone can help me port it over
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but the slide's screen is micro sized compared to a tablet.
any phone, for that matter doesn't have the proper screen real estate to take advantage of honeycomb features
maybe the dell streak. maybe....

I agree, 3.0 was designed as a tablet OS, not a phone OS.
Like the post above me says, no phone really has the resolution to take advantage of things like tabbed browsing and other tablet features, at least not efficiently or realistically. Plus, seeing as most tablets are at LEAST 800 mhz, most being 1 GHz or more, it probably would run slower than froyo and gingerbread on our phones. It probably would use a lot more RAM/CPU/GPU resources, making the whole system overall laggier. I think it might be cool to have a honeycomb ROM, but honestly, it's not very practical, it may not be worth it.

You may have a point but I'm doing it to support the Slide community which is slowly being traded for other phones... plus I think ill be pretty cool to run honeycomb on my Slide
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Yeah it would be cool, and it would be an addition to a slow community. Go for it, if it can be built for the magic, surely it can run on our phones, seeing as our phones are from a later generation of android devices than the dream/magic/sapphire.

Im just asking for some assistance considering that dev skills have not been developed yet and was hoping that this task would help me there.

izzy001 said:
You may have a point but I'm doing it to support the Slide community which is slowly being traded for other phones...
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lol, i just joined the slide community last week.
and i'm here to stay. go for it!

This is vid of it on G1...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RKEHfOwnSI&feature=player_embedded

Guys it is more like a proof of concept. It will be fun to run it to show off or to look at honeycomb but I'm sure it is not meant to be a daily driver for any phone. I would love a HoneyComb ROM and I could test it for you (I know adb, fastboot, and I can get logcat for you if needed).
If it can run on G1 I bet it can run on our slide (I'm not saying full speed but at a decent speed to mess with the ROM)

If it can run on G1, it will be much smoother on Slide because we have a better CPU and a much better GPU than G1 has. And we also have 320Mbs more RAM.

I have to wait till they release the alpha rom so that i can start messing with it

Question/Opinion about the EVO 3D

hey all
i just wanted to get some of your feedback regarding the Evo 3D and the love/lack of love it will get from the development community.
I love the specs on it, but the new 3D technology and display seems like it could be hell AOSP devs to create roms for.
For example, it took nearly 9 months to get 4G fully working on CM (which i love and appreciate b/c it's been my daily driver since my G1). So i feel like the same type of delay would be in effect for all the new technology the 3D will have, such as the dual 5MP cameras.
Anyways, i could be completely off on my analysis of this.
The thing is, i would consider an upgrade to the 3D purely based off the dual core processor and other specs. But, if i can't have a functional, nice CM build for it, i honestly don't think i would go near it.
opinions?

bweisholtz said:
hey all
i just wanted to get some of your feedback regarding the Evo 3D and the love/lack of love it will get from the development community.
I love the specs on it, but the new 3D technology and display seems like it could be hell AOSP devs to create roms for.
For example, it took nearly 9 months to get 4G fully working on CM (which i love and appreciate b/c it's been my daily driver since my G1). So i feel like the same type of delay would be in effect for all the new technology the 3D will have, such as the dual 5MP cameras.
Anyways, i could be completely off on my analysis of this.
The thing is, i would consider an upgrade to the 3D purely based off the dual core processor and other specs. But, if i can't have a functional, nice CM build for it, i honestly don't think i would go near it.
opinions?
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I am certainly no developer but the existence of the Nexus S 4G should help to iron out any 4G issues that are left and make 4G available in any EVO 3D AOSP builds. AFAIK, I believe the biggest reason behind the delay in 4G for the EVO was that they basically had to build it from the ground up since they didn't have any AOSP source to modify for it.
As for the developer support, I was wondering the same. I really want the EVO 3D but I don't want to get stuck in a position like all the Epic users are with little developer and no CM support. I hate waiting but I might wait to see how much love each of the new phones gets before deciding which one to go with.
Chances are that since the Nexus is supposed to be released first and there is already a version available, that will be the phone that many people flock to. I had actually considered PM'ing a couple of my favorite developers (Toast, Flipzmode, Myn) and see what phones they were leaning toward. I think that the ease of rooting might also be a factor. If HTC and/or Samsung end up locking the phones down real tight, that might end up swaying some people one way or another.

Check out the Evo 3d forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1095
They just made it a few days ago so I don't think it shows up on the xda app yet.
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xHausx said:
Check out the Evo 3d forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1095
They just made it a few days ago so I don't think it shows up on the xda app yet.
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Just looked at it, it looks like joeykrim and toastcfh are in which means, at the very least, the thing will probably be rooted before it's released. And if anyone can get the 3D thing figured out, TeamWin can.

[Q] Sense vs. Stock

Hey, I am coming from a Nexus One so I'm very comfortable with stock Android.
I have preordered a One X and would like to know what benefits and drawbacks there are with Sense.
Cheers.

PsiAdster said:
Hey, I am coming from a Nexus One so I'm very comfortable with stock Android.
I have preordered a One X and would like to know what benefits and drawbacks there are with Sense.
Cheers.
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Well first of all you coming from a nexus one, you will absolutely love the one X and HTC sense ( even tho I haven't play with the phone yet I'm pretty sure). It is a huge upgrade. As far as sense vs stock well sense offers a lot more customization, excellent widgets, it's eye candy. Stock is always great as it is easy to update, you get the pure google experience and there is less chances of lag and stuff since android OSs are optimized to work really well with nexus phones. Now for drawbacks the only thing I can think of for sense and any other overlays is that it will result in later OS updates. But HTC does a very good job at updating their devices in a timely fashion plus they will focus a lot on the one x so you're good to go.

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Well first of all you coming from a nexus one, you will absolutely love the one X and HTC sense ( even tho I haven't play with the phone yet I'm pretty sure). It is a huge upgrade. As far as sense vs stock well sense offers a lot more customization, excellent widgets, it's eye candy. Stock is always great as it is easy to update, you get the pure google experience and there is less chances of lag and stuff since android OSs are optimized to work really well with nexus phones. Now for drawbacks the only thing I can think of for sense and any other overlays is that it will result in later OS updates. But HTC does a very good job at updating their devices in a timely fashion plus they will focus a lot on the one x so you're good to go.
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Awesome. Thanks for your input.
Anyone else got something to add?

Your question is kind of confusing. "stock" for any HTC device is going to be sense. I think you mean AOSP vs Sense. AOSP has less polish and eye candy, but usually offers more speed and better battery life.
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barondebxl said:
Well first of all you coming from a nexus one, you will absolutely love the one X and HTC sense ( even tho I haven't play with the phone yet I'm pretty sure). It is a huge upgrade. As far as sense vs stock well sense offers a lot more customization, excellent widgets, it's eye candy. Stock is always great as it is easy to update, you get the pure google experience and there is less chances of lag and stuff since android OSs are optimized to work really well with nexus phones. Now for drawbacks the only thing I can think of for sense and any other overlays is that it will result in later OS updates. But HTC does a very good job at updating their devices in a timely fashion plus they will focus a lot on the one x so you're good to go.
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slapshot30 said:
Your question is kind of confusing. "stock" for any HTC device is going to be sense. I think you mean AOSP vs Sense. AOSP has less polish and eye candy, but usually offers more speed and better battery life.
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Ahh. More specifically I was using CM7. 1.

Back in the days, Sense was really bad and it slowed down your device.
But the One X has the right hardware and Sense 4 is so clean and it's still lokking great.
You will enjoy it!

Until we all have it in our hands, no one really knows.
Sense 4 looks like such an improvement on all levels so we'll see.

I've already tested it for 3 hours and it's amazing.
I agree, the last versions of Sense were buggy and slow but now HTC found the perfect mix of speed and design.

I have to say that Sense is a really good looking skin, the best in my opinion compared to others. My guess is that you'll like it because I don't know many people who really hate it nowadays and I'm sure it's going to be better than it used to be. And AOSP roms are sure to be made at some point. As long as HTC unlocks the device, which I'm assuming they will soon after release.

Awesome. Cheers for the input, looking forward to getting my hands on this phone.

Importantly, sense has more widgets that integrate with android which provide better convenience for users. However, we do see many other alternatives inspired by sense which can be achievable even you're on AOSP. Personally, I feel that there is no other theme that make me feel that what I'm using is really a smartphone other than Sense. Ever since the touch diamond time.
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I'm not such a big fan of sense. To me, it's a little uninspired. The white menus with their "shutter" effect is a little jarring if you ask me, and the widgets are becoming a little long in the tooth. If I were to choose any skin it would definitely be Sony's. Theirs is somewhat minimal with very cool and subtle animations and overall a bit "darker", in keeping with Google's AOSP, almost more slick and business-like. That said, I find Sense much better than say what Samsung and LG have on their phones.
In any case, I've placed an order for the X, but I'll be keeping my eye out for both CM9 and MIUI ROMs.

I am using a desire now and can appreciate Sense.
Although I don't use the friendstream and other widgets, the eye candy is nice And I love the other features such as cutting off the ring tone by flipping the phone etc.
The new ones with active lockscreen should be ace.

I always liked Sense then switched roms and started using GO Launcher EX it is brilliant.Though I really am looking forward to seeing what Sense 4 is like on the One X ...roll on next week

Being a noob to android, can anyone explain how much of the features of a phone are likely to be tied to the software rather than hardware?
Obviously very hard to tell with this phone not being out yet, but things like the video recording and taking a picture at the same time, or apt-x compatibility, or even compatibility with the htc media link
Do you need to keep sense in order for those things to work?

HTC: Sense is better than stock android

Bwhahahahahaha
http://blog.laptopmag.com/htc’s-sense-guru-stock-android-4-0-just-not-good-enough
Thought you guys might need a good laugh today

Gotta appreciate the confidence.
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"According to Drew Bamford, HTC’s AVP of user experience...."

When I read this article I'm reminded of what it sounds like when the teacher is talking to charlie brown.
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well is the same as every mother thinks his ugly kid is the most beautiful in the world

He says,
"There are some subtleties to our design that I think make an improvement over the ICS design. For example, when you press that recent apps button, the current app zooms out and then moves over to the right so that the one that’s in the center was the previous app. And then probably 80 percent of the cases, at least, you’re switching to the most recent app, the previous app, and in that case ***you just press right in the center and there you are. So it actually optimizes for that most common case of going to the most recent application.***"
Huh. Kinda like with stock ICS where the last app is right in the bottom right where my thumb already is?

Yes I agree, HTC Sense is better then stock Android. I bought Nexus to use it with CM9 and AOKP, stock Nexus sucks....One S/X is much better

kolyan said:
Yes I agree, HTC Sense is NOT better than stock Android. I bought the Nexus to use it with CM9 and AOKP, stock Nexus is awesome....One S/X is terrible....
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kolyan said:
Yes I agree, HTC Sense is better then stock Android. I bought Nexus to use it with CM9 and AOKP, stock Nexus sucks....One S/X is much better
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Good for you. CM9/AOKP are based off of Stock(and look very much like stock from what I've seen). Personally, Sense has always seemed like it tried to hard to look "elegant", but came out looking cartoonish. The added features didn't really seem all great either. Mind you, this is from my experience with the HTC Rezound. Plus, simple tasks like changing a ringtone was awkward and didn't work well. They never stuck.
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The recent apps window in Sense 4 is One (heh) of the few features I genuinely dislike about it.
A key point of the menu is to access apps you have been previously using. As the article says, In Sense 4, you can see one full app screen, and the edges of the two on either side. In stock ICS you get four full apps shown. Sure, HTC's one looks nice, but it's far less practical, regardless of what the guy who designed it claims. Add some fancy reflections to the stock ICS and it'd look every bit as flashy, too.
And don't get me started on white menu backgrounds. They look nasty, and now I can't use them in the dark without going blind!
The guy even says they didn't have long to tinker with it. Google, on the other hand, has been iterating this UI for a long time. They didn't just make a utilitarian, functional UI at the last minute to get ICS out the door. The fuss they made over Roboto should tell you that much.

Coming off of 3 years of using Sense (had the Hero, Evo 4G and Evo 3D), Sense is nice to look at--but if you want a quicker, more streamlined experience, then stock Android is the way to go. I missed it way too much after I got rid of my G1 a couple years back.
Stock ICS > Sense 4.0.

Coming from a sensation 4g using ARHD, there are a few sense features that google should pick up on.
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well he does work for HTC, so I could imagine they are proud of their work, it is the prettiest overlay for android and its has some useful widgets

Reading off of many reviews about Sense 4 (particularly The Verge's) many say that it does not bring anything new to the table that stock ICS already has.
Plus, many of the things Sense has can be implemented via third-party apps anyways. I never understood their need to insert their proprietary software in the device. Seems so limited and closed. Part of the reason why I hated Sense 3/3.5 on my EVO 3D.

IMHO, Sense was relevant and useful prior to ICS. Now, it just looks dated.
I appreciated sense on my Dinc but would never install a rom with Sense 4.0 on my Gnex.

Sense influenced the evolution of android back in its pioneering days. Since google hired Mathias duarte from webos to apple-ify the interface to make it more elegant and intuitive, there's no need for sense. I wish that these companies would just stick to proprietary apps or something for differentiation rather than screwing with the os. The only thing lacking from ics stock is pull down toggles and customize able nav bar icons. Aokp and some others solve that without ruining ics.
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What made sense amazing however is what it did for windows phone before android came out or just after. It actually made that crap useable.
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Jayrod1980 said:
What made sense amazing however is what it did for windows phone before android came out or just after. It actually made that crap useable.
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Ahhh....
*reminisces about Touchflo3D days*

chlehqls said:
Reading off of many reviews about Sense 4 (particularly The Verge's) many say that it does not bring anything new to the table that stock ICS already has.
Plus, many of the things Sense has can be implemented via third-party apps anyways. I never understood their need to insert their proprietary software in the device. Seems so limited and closed. Part of the reason why I hated Sense 3/3.5 on my EVO 3D.
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Marketing, that'd the only idea i can think of why the manufactures put it on, if they all ran vanilla (oh what a world it would be) they just pick thier style and run with it to separate themselves from other Android phones
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Isn't it true that having an HTC phone means, if you root, that you always have the choice of stock android or sense? Something any other phone lacks.