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Hello everyone. I really need some help here. I had rooted my friends Incredible a while ago. When the 2.2 OTA update came out, he manually upgraded to it. Now, hardly anything works. The phone is always force closing 'System' and it reboots every 5-10 minutes. I doesn't detect that it's plugged in via USB for I can't use ADB to downgrade.
Unfortunately, he didn't do a Nandroid backup, so I can't just revert back using that. Currently, HBOOT is at 0.79.0000 and the radio is at 1.00.03.04.06.
So, to clarify:
Root 2.1 --> OTA 2.2
Now the phone locks up and restarts and only the web browser seems to really work.
Can any of you help me or possibly provide a blank Nandroid recovery image? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks,
your radio image suggests the 2.2 update wasn't installed correctly. somewhere in the forums is a .img file to downgrade back to stock 2.1, as in the day you opened the DINC out of the box. That should fix your problem. I actually think I have the file.
I've tried searching the forum and I can't find the img. Can you point me to where I can get it? Also, I tried running the HBOOT update with PB31IMG.zip in the root of my FAT32 SD card but it never asked me if I wanted to update.
So to clarify he's on 2.2 with a 1.X radio? If that's the case that's your problem right there. Upgrade your radio to 2.15 and see how things go for you then.
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I'll try that now.
Yodes said:
So to clarify he's on 2.2 with a 1.X radio? If that's the case that's your problem right there. Upgrade your radio to 2.15 and see how things go for you then.
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Yeah, 2.2 should have a radio Baseband of 2.15. But I would just back up to a fresh 2.1 stock and go from there.
Fresh 2.1 stock (will wipe phone):
forum xda-developers com/showthread.php?t=757927
Then install the small OTA update:
unrevoked com/incredible/ota.zip
Then you will be fully ready to install 2.2 with no problems. Sorry my links are funky, I'm a new user and it won't let me post links yet. Hope this helps!
That worked great. Thanks so much.
Spring Evo 4g
HBOOT: 2.10.0001
Model: PC36100
Hardware:0003
Android：2.2
Kernel 2.6.32.17
Baseband：2.15.00.11.19
Software3.70.651.1
PRI:1.90_003
Rooted with Unrevoked.
After upgrade Baseband, I got very bad signal and want to roll it back.
1. Tried to use cm recovery 2.6 to install zip file containing radio image to 2.05.00.06.10, not sucessful. However, every time it turn to 2.15.00.11.19 after reboot. I fell 6 vibrations during flash, do not know why.
2. Tried to use fastboot flash radio image，but I got "remote not allowed" message!
Could any body help out?
Thanks.
请高手们指点一下吧！谢谢谢谢！
2.10.0001 radio is non-downgradeable on new hardware models.
Your phone has the new block size that is not compatible with the old radios and the remote not allowed error is because you are not using the eng hboot. Unfortunately it is not compatible as is either.
You can force it to downgrade and I believe I found a way to make it work with the new block sizes, but it's never been tested.
Ill test it. Got an extra new block size
snandlal said:
Ill test it. Got an extra new block size
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If it doesn't work though you're pretty much guaranteed to be bricked. But if it's a phone you're not worried about I've been dying to find out if this will actually work.
Yes i will sacrafice. Gettin a nexus s 4g anyways...seriously will test tho
snandlal said:
Yes i will sacrafice. Gettin a nexus s 4g anyways...seriously will test tho
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Right on, all you need to do is downgrade to the eng hboot from the hboot and before rebooting or doing anything set 'fastboot -n 4096'
That *should* let you use the eng hboot. You still won't be unable to downgrade your radio though, although afterward it may let you flash the old radios without so much as a warning.
Ok will do. Hboot usb or fastboot usb?
Tryed this but i still get six short vibrates when flashing the radio
snandlal said:
Tryed this but i still get six short vibrates when flashing the radio
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fastboot USB, as I previously said you will probably never be able to downgrade the radio. Sorry but that's just how it is.
Are you able to at least use your phone with the .76 hboot?
its weird.. there should be a way!!
wolfort said:
Spring Evo 4g
HBOOT: 2.10.0001
Model: PC36100
Hardware:0003
Android：2.2
Kernel 2.6.32.17
Baseband：2.15.00.11.19
Software3.70.651.1
PRI:1.90_003
Rooted with Unrevoked.
After upgrade Baseband, I got very bad signal and want to roll it back.
1. Tried to use cm recovery 2.6 to install zip file containing radio image to 2.05.00.06.10, not sucessful. However, every time it turn to 2.15.00.11.19 after reboot. I fell 6 vibrations during flash, do not know why.
2. Tried to use fastboot flash radio image，but I got "remote not allowed" message!
Could any body help out?
Thanks.
请高手们指点一下吧！谢谢谢谢！
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Instead of downgrading so far back, have you tried downgrading the baseband from 2.15.00.11.19 to 2.15.00.09.01? If not, give it a try. You can download it and all of the other EVO radios from the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
UPDATE: Disregard. The original post was dated April 8th.
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If i wanted to go back and try Android 2.1 roms, do i have to downgrade the radios as well?
Trying not to make a new thread but....say if I am using a 2.2 Rom with the 2.15.00.11.09 radio and I want to flash to a 2.1 rom(I'm talking bout far back as the rooted shipped stock ROM from last June. Would I need to downgrade my radio? And does that stock ROM already come prepackaged with a kernel. I'm pretty sure the kernel needs to be downgraded for it to be compatible. When I got my EVO in Sept, I was already on 2.2. Never tried 2.1 but have always been curious to try it and see how much worse it is. Then I could say I've finally tried all three versions of Android on my phone and how far we have progressed
As you've stated, the problem would not necessarily be the rom itself not working with the new radios, but whether or not the default kernel would work properly. Give it a shot. The worst that *should* happen is bootlooping. At that point, you can either reboot into recovery and flash a different kernel or downgrade the radio, PRI and NV. Of course, this is my opinion. You can download the rom from here . By the way, according to the descriptions on the shipped roms, the radios appear to be included.
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just read that i can't downgrade my radio because i'm running the 2.10 HBOOT and on HW003. but if downgrading the radio is not necessarily important to run a rooted 2.1 rom then i don't have much to worry about do i? also, those links you posted: i can flash those RUU's in recovery like i would any other rom? i don't want to go back to stock and be unrooted.
i was thinking of running the 1.32.651.1 rooted rom from Flipzmode, and if need to - download the appropirate kernel link next to it on the detailed ROM wiki thread maintained by Toast.
You cannot downgrade your HBOOT from 2.10 (not necessarily accurate) without a risk of problems, however, you can downgrade the baseband, PRI and NV. I've done it several times. I've downgrade from baseband 11.19 to 09.01. As well as upgrade to 04.08. I've also downgraded my PRI from 1.90 to 1.77 all while having HBOOT 2.10.
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i've downgraded my PRI because of the wakelock issues.
so you can downgrade the baseband to a certain extent? only within the 2.15 radios? but you cant downgrade to the radios that were on Eclair? if i can run 2.1 roms on 2.15 radios then by all means i'm going to try it out. thanks for the info doug
Hi,
I just got my dhd back from repair and they updated it to 2.50.405.2 -.-
Is this downgradable yet to root ? I ****in hate standard roms
Please help..
Thanks
i think versions above 2.37 can't be downgraded yet.
i am waiting for downgrade of 2.42 as well. just wait
I to have 2.50.405.2 after repair.
I found rooted this version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155634&highlight=2.50.405.2
But dont know will it help to change ROM.
If some one will find some solution please share it.
gingerbreak 1.2 not working with 2.50
Well, u need clockworkmod to flash it which u need rom manager for. And for rom manager u need root
I think we'll have to wait.. But the 2.37+ downgrade has been in development for about 2 months now.. Taking way to long
Probably waiting to see which bootloaders are unlocked, as promised.
Due out in September.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?
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Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?
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If u are S-OFF then u can downgrade to 2.36 by using the RUU version then root ur device,
edit:- i´ve done it more than 3times after updating from 2.36 to 2.50 "OTA" (believe me u can)
U can get the 2.36 ruu here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13381205
So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
Sent from my Desire HD
dwyaneW said:
So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
Sent from my Desire HD
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Now you can..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233
I was waiting for this too, and now it seems like we can downgrade and root our devices. What could worst case scenario be, if something went wrong?
Have you ever rooted a device before?
Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
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dwyaneW said:
Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
Sent from my Desire HD
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Dont worry, in a couple of hours we'll have an updated method and toolkit available to downgrade.
Edit: My Method and Toolkit have been updated.
http://driphter.com/index.php?topic=3867.0
Thanks a lot ,,, Guide from JSLEnterprises was so amazing and very helpful
can't wait to get my new ROM !
Edit:
DONE!
DHD is now rooted with Radio and ENG S-OFF.
Thank you so much.
Now moving on to flash another rom, and try and figure the whole fing about the radio out..
I successfully downgraded and rooted my desire hd 2.42.415 at last. Thanks a million JSLEnterprises. You are awesome
Trivial Question
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!
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I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!
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The reason you're getting the error after the ota update is the same reason why people get issues after installing custom roms and not wiping their device... the old cache and user data conflicts with the update.
Downgrading and then flashing a custom rom along with flashing an updated radio will remedy the problem. I dont believe you'll want to use the initial radio release, I highly recommend flashing the radio from the 2.52 korean release to your Telus DHD, along with the ril's from that release and replacing the ones in the rom you will flash via cwm recovery. ENG S-OFF is required to flash a new radio or recovery img.
Once you downgrade, you can always return to the stock 2.43.661.1 rom. There is a thread in the Desire HD/Inspire 4G Forum on Driphter.com where I've placed the RUU's of common builds (especially for Telus and AT&T). If returning the device for warranty purposes, you must Radio S-On prior to Installing the stock rom via the RUU. The RUU Itself will set ENG to SHIP, and unroot.
Excellent, Greatly appreciated.
Might try rooting as soon as tonight. Kind of excited to have a functional device again!
I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?
Cheers guys I will try that downgrade guide. Just a note though. The file fize of the version of HTC Sync for the Desire HD I'm downloading is 66.6MB. I hope that isn't an omen for this to go horrendously wrong
giusdk said:
I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?
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they're explained in coles notes way at the bottom of the 9 step thread
Hi,
I rooted my phone using Ace Hack, however, it had a problem when it came to installing new radio. Anyway, I still managed to install the revolution ROM and was wondering if I still need to update the radio or if that would have been done with the new ROM. Any advice will be very welcome.
Ian
Radio is completely separate from the ROM.
Check the radio thread for details. link should be in my sig
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I have a DHD. I just checked the baseband version and it shows 12.56.60.25P_26.10.04.03_M. It has root, s-off and a custom rom (i change roms regularly trying them all to find the right one for me).
I have another stock DHD that I currently use as my daily phone and the baseband version in it is 12.65.60.29U_26.14.04.28_M.
Physically both phones are identical just one rooted with s-off and a custom rom and the other straight stock.
I assume the baseband version is the same as the Radio version.
Does it matter what baseband version I have? Will an old baseband version mean some functions in a rom won't work?
When flashing a new rom does that flash the radio as well or does that have to be done separately?
I've read the instructions in the Dev RADIO thread about how to flash but just need to know if it's necessary.
cheers
EDIT: Just one other thing:
Is the radio version more relevant to the kernel or the rom? I often flash a new rom but try different kernels with it.
Radio are region based not rom based. Flashing a rom will not change the radio. Its something you do separately. Changing the radio wont give you that wow factor so if it ain't broken don't fix it. The .03 radio is the old att radio their latest is the .11 some dev's may suggest a radio for their rom but again radios are based on your location. So like If your in the US and dev is in Asia you would not use a radio from Asia.
Changing roms is a pretty simple thing no real risk in bricking phone but changing radios is a whole new ball game in itself with possible damaging phone for good. If you deside to change radio I would suggest to make sure its in pd98img zip form and flash thru hboot not recovery.
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Radio are region based not rom based. Flashing a rom will not change the radio. Its something you do separately. Changing the radio wont give you that wow factor so if it ain't broken don't fix it. The .03 radio is the old att radio their latest is the .11 some dev's may suggest a radio for their rom but again radios are based on your location. So like If your in the US and dev is in Asia you would not use a radio from Asia.
Changing roms is a pretty simple thing no real risk in bricking phone but changing radios is a whole new ball game in itself with possible damaging phone for good. If you deside to change radio I would suggest to make sure its in pd98img zip form and flash thru hboot not recovery.
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wow that is interesting. My DHD was locked to the vodafone network in Australia and to get root and s-off I ran the hack kit which I assume put the current radio on it because I am definitely in Australia and nothing to do with ATT.
I know the hack kit downgraded me first so maybe that's how I got an ATT radio.
BTW I thought the safest way to flash a radio was to download the radio.img file and flash it through USB from my PC connected to my DHD?
Yes you can adb it but I myself find it safer the other way.
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Just to add, i have noticed myself with the newer radio i use a.t.m. i have a little better reception (very little).
But is consumes less battery and wifi wont crap out.
But like Reinaldo said "If it ain't broke don't try to fix it"...
thanks for the advice guys.
cheers
I notice that the android-info.txt inside the latest radio Radio 12.69.60.29_26.17.14.11_M only applies to cid number CWS__001. My DHD is a vodafone australia.
Do I assume correctly that if I was to attempt to flash this radio on my DHD that either
A. It would not flash and I would get an error of Incompatible device or something similar
B. I would brick my DHD
C. It would flash and be fine.
Which is the most likely?
If this radio doesn't work on my DHD what is the latest radio for a vodafone australia DHD?
cheers
heywheelie said:
I notice that the android-info.txt inside the latest radio Radio 12.69.60.29_26.17.14.11_M only applies to cid number CWS__001. My DHD is a vodafone australia.
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If this radio doesn't work on my DHD what is the latest radio for a vodafone australia DHD?
cheers
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I flashed Radio 12.69.60.29_26.17.14.11_M using the PD98IMG.zip on Hboot.
It works perfect on both Telstra & Vodafone Au:good:
Same here 3 au no issue.
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excellent, thanks guys.
Flashed using bootloader method. Works perfectly. Thanks again for all the help guys.
cheers