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Unrooting Orange HTC Desire to a Generic ROM

Hello All
I am a newbie to Android. I have an Orange UK HTC Desire. I rooted it and installed ClockworkMod recovery, plus LollyRom (0.2 version) for Froyo and App2SD.
Now I want to revert it back to original ROM in light of upcoming update for European Desires. Please tell me:
1) Is there a way to unroot my phone back to a GENERIC ROM rather than the Orange version?
2) What is the easiest method for that? And do I need a goldcard (I rooted using Unrevoked so did not need one). Please note that my phone was not locked as such, just displayed Orange splash screen and some (horrible) Orange apps
3) If I unroot it and install a generic ROM, will it be detected as a generic Euro unrooted Desire (so that it can be updated)?
Urgent help would be appreciated

talhamid said:
Hello All
I am a newbie to Android. I have an Orange UK HTC Desire. I rooted it and installed ClockworkMod recovery, plus LollyRom (0.2 version) for Froyo and App2SD.
Now I want to revert it back to original ROM in light of upcoming update for European Desires. Please tell me:
1) Is there a way to unroot my phone back to a GENERIC ROM rather than the Orange version?
2) What is the easiest method for that? And do I need a goldcard (I rooted using Unrevoked so did not need one). Please note that my phone was not locked as such, just displayed Orange splash screen and some (horrible) Orange apps
3) If I unroot it and install a generic ROM, will it be detected as a generic Euro unrooted Desire (so that it can be updated)?
Urgent help would be appreciated
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I believe if the rumors and gossip is true that Euro will get updated by this weekend then you need to unroot to HTC_europe version in the official ROM that is available in the sticky post.
I am also pretty sure when HTC rolled the update, it will also be made available everywhere too as long as it is official ROM version. So yes, you will get the update.

Thanks very much.
I just need to know: will I need a goldcard or something to unroot? I did not require it at the time of rooting.
Secondly there seem to be two versions of the generic Euro ROM - which to choose?

Seeing as you're on orange, unless your phone is unlocked, you'll need the 1.15. The 1.21 one updates the radio as well and causes a sim lock on orange phones.
Yes you will need a gold card to flash a generic rom. Imo, the generic rom is much better than the orange one with all the demo games and stuff. If you struggle making a goldcard, google goldcardtool - makes the job easy. Just a few mouse clicks and its done. Simple

kuailan said:
I believe if the rumors and gossip is true that Euro will get updated by this weekend then you need to unroot to HTC_europe version in the official ROM that is available in the sticky post.
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I'm on mac os x, can someone link me to/ extract the rom.zip for
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe
??
ps. what is the difference between
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.1_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121684.exe
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe

iinga: Many thanks for the reply. Please bear with me the repetitive questions though:
1) You say I am on Orange. I WAS when I bought the phone, but I am using a different SIM now (in another country) and its working perfectly without unlocking etc. After rooting and installing LollyRom all traces of Orange have vanished from my phone. Does it still mean I have to be picky with generic ROMs?
2) I did not need a gold card to root it and install another Froyo ROM. Is it confirmed that I will need a gold card to unroot it back?

1) What network are you now on? I know that orange are very picky with radio updates. Despite rooting/debranding, updating the radio would mean that they simlock their phone. However, as you mentioned you are on another network, I believe that you may have an unlocked phone?
Also, as the froyo update requires a new radio, it may well be worth your while to unlock regardless...I originally unlocked mine (despite being on orange network) to update to froyo roms with the necessary radio update.
2) Yes, you will still need a goldcard to install a generic rom.

I had Orange UK ROM. I've unlocked it with a code. Then I made a goldcard and installed
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe
Everything works fine but one thing. Red color is rather orange than red and is too saturated ie. faces of my friends are very reddish. I hope Froyo resolve this.

Just a quick point the Rom coming out this weekend is for unbranded and unlocked phones only not Orange or vodaphone or t mobile just unbranded and unlocked HTC desire.
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I think that after unlocking and actualizing to official ROM my HTC is the same as brand new unlocked Desire. I don't suppose that OTA checks IMEI numbers and knows which phone was unlocked phone from begining.

Iinga: actually I am in a third world country having imported orange branded desire. I did update the radio before updating to a Froyo Rom . The phone is working perfectly with a local 2.5 g sim from day one and continued to work perfectly after rooting and updating . So far as I am concerned my phone IS unlocked despite initial orange branding. So I think transition to a generic HTC euro Rom will be possible . Am I correct ?
Secondly I didn't need a gold card for rooting and installing a custom Rom and it worked so it shows my phone is not network locked. So why do i need it to revert to a generic Rom ? Sorry for repetition again and thanks for the help
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Ok, i guess you are unlocked.
From my understanding, if your phone was originally flashed with an orange rom, you will need a goldcard. You only don't need a goldcard if your phone was originally unbranded.
Rooting is a different process

Ok I guess now everything is clear . Just to confirm: using the goldcard I will be able to turn my currently rooted phone into a generic euro phone right ? Now the only question is which ruu to use of the given two.

since your phone is unlocked, use 1.21, it's the last official update for unbranded phones:
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe

So this will revert me to generic euro? What about those ruus labeled euro or something like that ?

RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
Use that one as you're unlocked. And yes it will revert you to official stock rom.

So what if your IMEI isn't in the 'database'?
Yes, an OTA has sim-locked the phone. Yes, I am on Orange. Yes, I went to htccode.com.
No, my IMEI is NOT in the database (it's three months old!). Will be chasing for a refund from htccode so let's see what happens.
What next? I could flash the earlier ROM again, but I want the Froyo upgrade to work. I did try to go to Orange for the unlock code but, despite being an Orange-branded phone, I bought it through Phones4U. Apparently I have to go to them for the code. Sounds suss to me, but will be popping to the shop today to ask.
SavCom

I've just been to htcunlock.com. Paid my dues, got my phone back and we're now running Froyo properly as of an hour ago.
Off to htccode.com to get my money back

I have a Desire that had the Orange rom on it, I debranded it with a goldcard to the generic 1.15 rom, then i did the OTA update to 1.21.405 which also updated the Hboot to 0.8 and the updated radio and simlocked the phone so I bought an unlock code and all was good.
Next I rooted the phone using the modaco r6 rooted 1.15 rom, used a few rooted roms then decided I would unroot to get the official froyo update. To do this I used the 1.21.405 zip from shipped roms, put it on the sd card (gold card) named as PB99IMG, booted to recovery and selected fastboot, this is the only way to get back if you have the 0.8 hboot. That took me back to generic unrooted so yesterday I was prompted to install the 2.2 update. I didn't install it as the new hboot sounds like a nightmare. Instead I rooted again using unrevoked 3 and installed a rooted version of the official 2.2 rom, I didn't use a goldcard for this.
Hope this helps.

bakedecake said:
I have a Desire that had the Orange rom on it, I debranded it with a goldcard to the generic 1.15 rom, then i did the OTA update to 1.21.405 which also updated the Hboot to 0.8 and the updated radio and simlocked the phone so I bought an unlock code and all was good.
Next I rooted the phone using the modaco r6 rooted 1.15 rom, used a few rooted roms then decided I would unroot to get the official froyo update. To do this I used the 1.21.405 zip from shipped roms, put it on the sd card (gold card) named as PB99IMG, booted to recovery and selected fastboot, this is the only way to get back if you have the 0.8 hboot. That took me back to generic unrooted so yesterday I was prompted to install the 2.2 update. I didn't install it as the new hboot sounds like a nightmare. Instead I rooted again using unrevoked 3 and installed a rooted version of the official 2.2 rom, I didn't use a goldcard for this.
Hope this helps.
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I have a debranded orange phone, used a goldcard to debrand to a generic 1.21 ROM, since then I have upgraded to the new froyo 2.2 official and ever since my phone is on a continuous loop of restarting all the time every 2mins, no SD card, No WIFI and no GSM calls etc.
I've tred various RUU's and updates and nothing has worked. Im thinking maybe I need an Orange RUU file, but just can't find one anywhere...
I tried using 1.21.405 zip, renamed to PB99IMG then went through recovery mode and fastboot, but when fast boot was selected nothing happened just another menu with - reset, bootloader, clear data etc nothing to say install anything?

No problems on Froyo OTA with debranded Orange France

Hi all,
Since the last OTA created plenty of problems to debranded Orange owners, I just wanted to let everybody know that I did install the OTA and did not find any problem so far.... everything went smoothly in updating OTA from the latest RUU update. No need for gold cards or complicated procedures
Sent from my HTC Desire

Can I ask which method did you use to originally debrand your phone? Which rome did you flash to?

The 405 RUU that had been posted around may on these forums... see here for a full list:
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
Very easy, all you need is to make a gold card. Things get slightly more messy if you are not a Windows user.
Sent from my HTC Desire

JaykaySLO said:
Can I ask which method did you use to originally debrand your phone? Which rome did you flash to?
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for my own device :
It was Orange France 1.22 ROM;
I rooted my device with UnrEVOked;
Then I use the downgrade method that uses fake ROM version reporting to RUU;
Installed full Europe_1.15 HTC ROM;
And install all OTA updates, as when asked.
Note : I alway have my gold card in it, and I never got any trouble.

Thanks. I dont want to root my phone just debrand it to receive OTA`s directly from HTc and not wait for carrier specific.
Question: is it safer to flash it to 1.15 and then do OTA to 1.21 and Froyo or flash directly with 1.21?

Directly 1.21, if I did not screw up version numbers it was the jump from 1.15 to 1.21 that created the problem when done in OTA (WiFi module could not be loaded correctly)
Sent from my HTC Desire

ql. did you have to have your goldcard in while doing the FROYO update?

Yes
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

OTA Froyo for Orange users (Debranded).

Hi all, I realise there are going to be loads of threads (indeed there are already some) outlining Froyo upgrade woes/tips but since users with Orange branded handsets seem to have a slightly different time of things I thought it may be useful to share experiences(although presumably it will only be debranded users that are going to be updating at the moment).
I debranded mine to the RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed rom and have unlocked the phone using a code from eBay. I'm about to install the OTA update with a goldcard inserted I'll let you know how I've got on after the fact.
Thanks.
Worked! On the face of it it seems to have worked. As far as I can see my stuff has been retained and everything is working (camera included).

Yeah thanks. Maybe Goldcard is the answer

Just updated my unlocked debranded orange desire with goldcard inserted. No problems so far everything working fine including wifi.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Running 1.15 as I didn't want to have to unlock on updating to 1.21
I assume I'll have to:
OTA update to 1.21
Unlock
OTA update to Froyo w/ Goldcard
Agree?

FazUK said:
Running 1.15 as I didn't want to have to unlock on updating to 1.21
I assume I'll have to:
OTA update to 1.21
Unlock
OTA update to Froyo w/ Goldcard
Agree?
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I could be wrong but if memory serves, you have to have the goldcard in for the OTA update to 1.21 or your wifi will stop working (provided the handset is Orange branded) Something about not being able to overwrite a file without the goldcard in? (But that will update your radio and then you'll need to unlock it as you say) I could be wrong though

Ok just so you all know i've succesfully downgraded to 2.1 using my goldcard. Now to try the 2.2 update again using goldcard.

Im on orange debranded unlocked and never rooted, what should i do??
EDIT: doinbox should be able to answer this when he finishes

Guys, just spoke with Orange and apparently they are rolling out Froyo by end of next week, i think I might wait rather than use a gold card

Ahhhh i never thought of this.
I went ahead with the ota upgrade and now the phone keeps rebooting in a loop. It gets so far as the unlock screen and then i get a notice saying "Process system is not repsonding" I get to choose "force close" or "wait". Neither selection does anything, the phone simply reboots at this stage and gets in a loop.

Im in same boat, seems to be that it's using the 2.1 radio version so it wont work. I'm stuck where to go

Success
Righties, on the face of it it seems to have worked. as far as I can see my stuff has been retained and everything is working (camera included).
Updated initial post.

JayceAndTheNews said:
Righties, on the face of it it seems to have worked. as far as I can see my stuff has been retained and everything is working (camera included).
Updated initial post.
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what about when you take out your goldcard??
Thanks

I dun like Orange Roms.
So I did the same like the Author of this thread did.
Flash to the Original WWE Roms with goldcard. Then Update to 2.2 through OTA.
No Problems at all!! Fantastic Froyo.

Just taken it out and put my big card back in, all fine. I believe the goldcard itself is only for the installation of roms and radios onto branded handsets, so once the update has completed I don't believe you need it in.
That said it was my intention just to make my big memory card into a goldcard and leave it in the phone permanently (I just forgot )

Downloading now. Thanks for risking your desire for the community

I had previously updated my Orange debranded Desire to 1.21 using my gold card. I just used the same gold card again to update to froyo and it all worked really well.
Just make sure you have 25mb free space on your phone before updating.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

lennshow66 said:
what about when you take out your goldcard??
Thanks
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It works fine for me after removing my gold card.
Rik
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

You do not need to go back to go forward here.
**IF YOU ARE DEBRANDED AND HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE OTA UPDATE JUST RUN UPDATE.ZIP TO BOOTLOADER WITH GOLDCARD INSERTED - DO NOT REGRESS TO FULL 2.1 RUU OR YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR SETTINGS ETC**

Hopefully it all goes well and smoothly for everyone else
I'd imagine the worst that could happen is some reflashing/unlocking required.

JayceAndTheNews said:
Hopefully it all goes well and smoothly for everyone else
I'd imagine the worst that could happen is some reflashing/unlocking required.
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Unlocking code is pretty cheap at Ebay. I bought mine for only 7.99 GBP. So no worries...

Q on Goldcard and unlocked Desire

Hi all,
Few questions all loosely linked to Froyo update...
I bought an Orange UK branded Desire and flashed an unbranded ROM to it. I have been offered a "HTC Application improvement" update but heard rumours about it giving de-branded handsets issues, is this true? Also do i need to install this update before i will be offered a Froyo update?
Next, i also read to successfully update a de-branded handset you need your Goldcard inserted. I have formatted my Goldcard on both the phone and the PC. Will it still be a Goldcard or do i need to re-create it?
Thanks all very much in advance
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

You definitively need Gold card inserted when doing all your upgrades. People who did upgrade without a Goldcard have issues with their Radio.
I had the Gold card inserted all the way till I got FROYO up n running.
hope this helps.

[Q] Updating to 2.2

I've just bought a brand new desire on an O2 contract, which of course means it was locked to O2 only. I've now unlocked it and am using my Voda SIM card in it which is working perfectly.
However, today I read that Vodaphone relased the 2.2 OTA update, but when I try to check for updates it says my phones software is up to date.
Does this mean I need to put the official Vodaphone ROM on to allow me to update to 2.2? I'm a bit put off about rooting my device though, as I've got the 0.83 bootloader and I'm pretty sure it's a SLCD screen, which I've heard can have a few issues if putting new ROM's onto.
Cheers for any advice,

You are running branded O2 software, so you will not get Vodafone's update. You need to wait for O2 to release an update, or debrand and run stock 2.2.

OK, cheers mate

Jamman3 said:
OK, cheers mate
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or debrand, root flash a stock 2.1, unroot and update OTA to 2.2
hope this helps! good Luck!